I still think about this scene from Come and See (1985).
One of the worst movies I've ever seen. Actually made me more pro war.
>>221004891Did he see them or figure it out?
>>221004891me too, best scene in the movie actually
>>221004891Did Flyora knock her up? I always thought the stork symbolized that.
>>221004891What are kino Soviet films other than Come and See?
>>221005272Pretty sure that the truck of soldiers that gang-raped her did it instead of him.
>>221004891Without a doubt one of the most disturbing movies ever made.
>>221005285The chekist. It's actually more horrible than Come and See but tankies on reddit hate it because there's no nazi bad guys, just pure soviet kino
>>221005285Viy, if you like horror you need to see it.
>>221005317I think that was a different girl. By then, he had been traveling with that militia.
>>221005321it gets mogged by >>221005327
>>221005317That wasn't Glasha, that was an unnamed village girl. The shot showing the dried blood on the inside of her thighs is etched in my mind.
>>221004891I still think about how much of a pile of shit this movie is.On the bright side it made me go through my extensive backlog and delete everything that could be even remotely associated with the word artsy.
>>221005327I'll have to see it. Although it came out in 1992, so it's technically a post Soviet film.
City of Live and Death
>>221005374actual soviet films are usually shit but aleksey germann's entire filmography is worth watching while drunk
>>221005331>>221005356Huh, I always thought it was her. I guess she just disappears from the movie after the swamp camp.
>>221005356Rape victims were ususally shot.
One of the most overhyped films of all time. It's ok, but shouldn't be anywhere near the discussion of best war films.
>>221005218In the movie itself, no. But you can interpret it that deep down he knows, and him running away was his coping mechanism.
>>221005218He knew from the start.
>>221005191
>>221005580Because it's not a war film?More like anti-wr, war-crime or something.Has more in common with that Sean Penn/Michael J Fox vietnam movie about a squad raping a vietnamese girl than to Saving Private Ryan or Enemy at the Gates or Stalingrad.
>nazis badinto the trash it goes
>>221006372They are bad though. Even if you’re a White identitarian you should realize that they fucked up the chances of White people governing themselves and preserving their culture, on top of the fact that they created a senseless war that led to the deaths of millions of Whites.
>>221006368Leftist porn, they love human suffering and trying to convince people that they need to feel responsible for the crimes of real monsters.
>>221005356>etched in my mind
>>221005285fate of a man
It's good, but the directors wife made the superior film.
Come and Sneed
>soviet partisans were....LE GOOD GUYSyeah no
In times of war could you just have your way with a girl like this and get away with it?
>>221006655It's funny how leftists tie themselves up in a pretzel over Ukraine and Russia, they just can't admit Soviet/communists are subhuman, never met truly a more evil people
>>221004891I liked the first half with scenes like this>>221006720. Otherwise, after the scene where they swim through the mud, it was pure hate and propaganda. Nazis were buring civilians alive in barns and laughing like they left a comedy movie. People in war seethe at capable enemies and then pretend only the other side did atrocities. Anyone from the soviet side has almost zero ground to stand on.
>>221005285Stalker and Waterloo
>>221006720She was the Partisan leader's side piece.So good luck not being hanged naked with your cut off balls stuffed in your mouth from the nearest tree when he finds out.
>>221005327Is it that bad? The description sounds pretty straightforward, like I know what's happening is bad but theres more horrible things to watch in a movie unless its somehow extraordinarily visceral
>>221006895The nazis did round up people and burn them in barns (or more commonly gun them down against the wall) but youre right the way the movie depicts them as some kind of traveling circus of evil rapisy clowns is pure propaganda. Its actually far closer to how the soviets behaved when they got their hands on a defenceless village
>>221006582>soviet partisans were....LE GOOD GUYSPartisans taking preteen sons from crying mothers into war in the movie is le good? Partisans taking the kids boots and then leaving those same kids alone in the woods to get bombed also le good?Partisans raping and killing german female officers le good? Not to mention that the movie ends with a literal partisan war crime coupled with the main character choosing NOT to shoot at the image of baby Hitler, humanizing him in the process.>>221007037The movie is not depicting the wehrmacht or even standard SS troops but the Dirlewanger brigade, so most of them weren't even german but drunktard ukrainian collaborators just like the movie portrays. The same dude who laughs and drags the girl by the hair from the burning barn is later screaming WE ARE NOT GERMANS after the partisans round them up under the bridge. All of this was a major problem for the soviet government which is why they didn't allow for the movie to be produced and released for 8 straight yearsTry actually watching the movie next time
>>221005285The Needle/Igla 1988
>>221007308Nta, but the movie sounds way more layered than I thought. I'll have to check it out now.
>>221006413>They are bad though.NAH, get fucking real
>>221004891come and eat
>>221005285Sacrifice
>>221005218He saw himself, and that's what no one did.
>>221005191This. I wish they kept the original name, would've let me know it had nothing of value to say.
>>221007941What was the original?
>germany in ww1>killing was no worse than anyone else>germany in ww2>bloodthristy sadists that tortured and kill all civilians in their pathIt is weird when visiting germany that their populace is one of the nicest and most respectful in all of europe while most of their enemies and critics are awful.
>>221008136yeah, the only issue is we can't pull off the same trick with the Palestinians.
>>221008136eh not really. also most of the nazis in this movie are ukrainian collaborators
>>221008136There's this thing called war time propaganda, look it up some time, might explain a thing or two.
>>221008176I'm aware. I have trouble believing nice germans are so easily swayed to being monsters. You always hear in ww1 about how much the english enjoyed their german pow friends.
>>221008166kek, this cope gets funnier when you realize that russians consider ukranians brothers and think they were always just a part of russia
>>221008089Trolls 2
>>221008224authoritarianism is bad because it absolves people of responsibility for their actions.
>>221004891How do you guys convince your wives to watch old kino?
>>221008263
>>221004891russia is unironically losing now
>>221008224>I have trouble believing nice germans are so easily swayed to being monsters.Civilization is a thin veneer. And that is a truism I find baffling I even have to state. If you don't know that you might as well be a 40 IQ monkey.
>>221004891Why were Soviets so evil?
>>221008224white people are like grasshoppers, the right circumstances turn them into locusts that devour everything. no other human species is capable of this
>>221005356Grow up.
Did this flick mindreak /tv/ simply because Hitler was the villain?
>>221008176So germans didn't systematically kill civilians and slaughtered villages as reprisals? Because jews lied about 6 million Germans were actually not doing all the other atrocities to non-jews? /pol/tards are something else.
>>221005218He came and he saw them
>>221004891Just slapped my sister in the face for having another abortion. Murderous CUNT. HAHAHA.
>>221004891did they tell her what she'd see when filming this? i like to believe they just told her to look behind the building as she ran past and her reaction is genuine
>>221008365https://nsarchive2.gwu.edu/coldwar/documents/episode-1/kennan.htm
>>221007762What did the Nazis do in the end? Other than giving the jews a valid forever victim card that they still use to this day to evade criticism
>>221008310Kino
>>221008500hitler perpetrated the largest white genocide in history
>Zero movies about Jewish Bolsheviks dynamiting Christian Churches and torturing Russian and Ukrainian priests.
>>221008500>>221008572>post hoc ergo propter hoc
>>221008572stalin
>>221008310they literally are the exact same people thoughbeit desu senpai
>>221008385The fact you think one side was guilty of countless crimes and the other was the "good guys" shows how naive you are.
>>221008599>zero movies about shit you made upwow shocker
>>221008664Ukrainian can't be understood just from learning Russian, and vice versa. it's like saying the Dutch and the Germans are one people.
>>221004891I often think about the scene that followed, where they waded through the bogs for 3 minutes.
>>221008599Enjoy your police visit zigger scum
>>221008852that's cope and they are
>>221008793>The fact you think one side was guilty of countless crimesIt was. >and the other was the "good guys" shows how naive you are.I never mentioned the other side. That's your headcanon.
>>221005191nafotroon or naziboo? both maybe?
>>221008852They are both from the kievan rus you nafo troglodyte
>>221008984>lalala I can't hear you based
>>221009077>seething behind layers of ironycope harder
>>221009050You wretched, negroidic chimpanzee faggot. God hates you, so he made you come out retarded. Ukrainians and Belarusians are Ruthenians and TRVE descendants of the Rus, whereas """Russians""" are Mongol/Tatar/Khazar/Pecheneg rape baby mutt descendants of their Golden Horde bettersNow you will suck my dick, eat my shit and thank me for the privilege
>>221009266A Slav is a Slav. Slavs killing each other is good for the rest of world.
>>221008852>Dutch and the Germans are one peopleThey are, retard.
>>221009266>Ukrainians and Belarusians are Rutheniansaka literally russians
>>221009266
>>221009352Fuck no. No Slav ever told me what to do. They are not my enemies
>>221008136Germans chimped out in WW1 too, the famous rape of Belgium happened back then.
>>221009150it's more that I'm not taking you seriously. think whatever stupid shit you like it won't make any difference.
>>221009640>t. crying wojak with smug wojak mask
>>221008500what do you suggest then retard. All of europe's countries are controlled by the Jews, so try to find a solution to save it without destroying everything and rebuilding a new europe from scratch(reminder Hitler tried to negotiate and get support in friendly way at first, it didnt work and the jews pushed on destroying germany even more)
>>221009593You're a massive faggot if you don't think the other nasty slavs, and I mean Russians, aren't doing the same kind of faggot internet memes, too. Wait, you are a faggot and I hope the slavs kill eachother while serving their jew overlords. Yup, you are owned by jews, goyboy
>>221009680You talk like an angry deranged child and no one takes you seriously.
>>221005327Came here to mention this. Literally just one hour and thirty minutes of early KGB executing anyone more intelligent than a village drunkard and better looking than an inbred troglodyte and getting away with it.
>>221009659I mean it won't make any difference to what happens in reality with Ukraine. you're not achieving anything by telling yourself you've won this argument.
>>221009745Enjoy your ban zigger FAGGOT. Slava Ukraine.
>>221004891It's Dirlewangerian kino
>>221008448after making this post i looked it up and yes they withheld the fact there were loads of bodies back there :)i miss when directors could abuse their actresses to get better acting out of them
>>221008136>It is weird when visiting germany that their populace is one of the nicest and most respectful in all of europeYeah it's almost like all of the bloodthirsty ones were exterminated via multiple back to back brutal wars and the few that remained were forcibly socialized via decades of occupation, with an added bonus of gene pool dilution via massive post-war rapes.
>>221008664Watching them try to pretend there is this huge distinction between the two is like watching Indians trying to tell you that Pakistanis have nothing in common with them.
>>221005191You know, it is prewar. Unironically. The movie worked.
>>221005357Weakling.
>>221006720imagine the struggle of the attention whore before social media
>>221008136Isn't it weird how circumstances change and not every situation is the same as the one before? Fucking wild.
>>221010389It would probably unironically have been a better time, attention whores get too much of attention today so they never feel fulfilled and are forced to keep chasing it, while back in the day they got their fill and was happy for a while
>>221007008i think the reason its disturbing is more because it looks like liveleak mass executions not gore porn
