Shocker getting chased by black suit Spiderman made me splooge my shorts as a kid and now. Get back her, shocker! I'll chase you to the ends of the earth!

>>221007216
>Shocker
Literally forgettable character.

If you watch it as an adult you appreciate it more for example the entire idea of a secret identity is very important once you ralzie venom. This is a perfect example what a absolute lunatic who knows your identity can do.

>>221007160
I havent watched it for a long time, but I mightgive it a shot. I remember the theme being awesome.

>>221007556
I remember freaking out when I found out there was lyrics to.the song but the voice modulation makes it difficult to understand.

It was okay. X-Men and Batman were better.

>>221007599
>Wradiooowaktiiiv bider maaannnnn

>>221007160
Spectacular was better.
>>221007216
that scene was maximum cringe. the overacting was hilariously bad.

>>221007556
>I remember the theme being awesome.
The music makes the action 800% more fun. Like it is so iconic and fun.

>>221007670
Agree to disagree. All the rogues gallery was cool even spot. Especially the spot.

>>221007160
>no punching allowed
Wokeslop

The thing I really liked about this cartoon is how the symbiote is basically a Lovecraftian cosmic horror, which isn't even "evil" in human terms but simply wants to survive and accumulate more knowledge, and it happens to latch on a guy with a grudge against Spiderman, after Spiderman rejects it.
This is the kind of cool writing you love to see done in a horror/scifi movie, but instead it's in a fast-paced cartoon as a villain of the week.

>>221007952
It was almost like the thing but more helpful. It didn't consume the original consciousness. I liked the video of venom explaining g his origins even if hank azaria mispronounced symbiotic. Jenny slaye does it in the tom hardy movie also.

even as a kid, my brain couldn't handle this. action happens before the characters' constant narration/dialogue describes it.

it's like the whole show is on cocaine.

>>221007160
Best theme
Best Peter
Best Black Cat
Best Kingpin
Definitive version of the symbiote

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>>221007924
>Wokeslop
COPE!

>>no punching allowed
This is a cartoon, 90s cartoons needed to go around the required censorship. Best example
>The gun who shoots a dart that erases your memories and turns you into a vegetable forever!

>>no punching allowed
However he literally drop kicks people into walls! Like he literally swings gets momentum and kicks people of the screen using his body like wrecking ball!

>no punching allowed
Actually in all realism playing rock em sockem robots is not a good strategy wrestling moves to disable your opponent and put him into a lock are far more effective. Something that happens a lot in these episodes.

I still want that gas, yes.

>>221007727
>The music makes the action 800% more fun.
aerosmith adopted a girl so he could sex traffic her in the 1970s

>>221007556
I like the actual show but the theme might actually be the best part. IMO the series starts fairly strong but gets better as it goes on.

>>221008765
If you were a girl in the 70s you would aerosmith do whatever the fuck they wanted to you.

>>221007615
X-men? No. Not even close.
Batman? Maybe.

Everything before 2010 was amazing, then these tumbler bluehairs decided to infest everything with their woke and well, here we are.

The show being so good even with the censorship is really just testament to how fucking good it is.

>>221007160
it never lets up, it's just constantly moving forward relentlessly so you never lose interest or get bored, that's what I recall about it
and yeah the awesome joe perry track

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>>221007160
for me it was the 2008 animated series

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>>221007615
>X-Men
90s X-men and 90s Spiderman are good.
Also they semi quasi shear the same universe.
There is like 1 spiderman episode that has X-men in them and 1 X-men episode that has spiderman in it.

Only the crossover episodes are not canon to the other series.... And the art style is a little different..... Take a look if you like.

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>>221008954
Surf dracula strikes agein!
Today you get 1 season of 12 episodes 30 minutes long who have the story potential of 5 minutes of a 90s cartoon episode!

No you do not need to have the son have a traumatic episode 23 times in the season who is the same shit! Best example the episode where kingpin needed to forsake his son like his father has forsaken him.

30 minutes of a cartoon eclipse modern streaming slop!

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>>221008303
>This is a cartoon, 90s cartoons needed to go around the required censorship.

once again, i bring up Harmony Gold's telekino, Robotech (1985). Batmanfags will praise their cartoon for having actual blood and bullets, not just wrestling like in He-Man. meanwhile, a decade earlier, this had dudes punching each other, stabbing each other, getting blown up, fucking women, slapping women, and getting drunk.

for the non-weeaboos of /tv/, it's just the American localisation of the first Macross (with two other animes edited in). but the Macross fans act like it's a sin against God. as a piece of history, it's more interesting what got LEFT IN than what they edited out. it's not bad.

https://youtu.be/8mjblb4p5h4?si=sL7fR4tJiSzkp2zI

>>221009423
his dad was in the wrong here tbf.

>>221007160
I love how its adult Peter and not highschool Peter like every other animated show after. Besides that one on beast planet.

>>221007160
>90s Spiderman
Weren't there two different Spider-Man shows in the 90s? I think MTV made one

>>221009672
there was a weird 3D quasi-sequel-to-the-movies one.

i don't remember it being very good, aside from the 3D being cool. then again i used to religiously watch Donkey Kong Country just because i thought the animation was like sorcery.

>>221007160
I'm watching through Season 1 right now.
>Peter was juggling Felica Hardy and Mary Jane at the same time and it has yet to be treated as a bad thing
What a fucking chad.

>>221007924
It's really inconsistent, sometimes he is hitting stuff away with his arms.

>>221007160
I know the show was suppose to come off a spider-man movie that didn't get made, but it I like they just jump right into the spider-man world. You don't slowly have him figure out how to be spider-man, he just is. Origins really drag. It's a world where Spider-man exists, and so do all the other characters. JJJ, Osborn, Kingpin, and so on. Works well.

>>221007986
this

>>221008973
gay jewish shit

>>221007556
I sing the theme song to my kid when they’re wearing diapers
>Diaper baby
>Diaper baby
>Radioactive diaper baby

I really love the voice acting and dialogue in this show too.
This will always be my favorite Kingpin.

>>221008150
>Best Black Cat
My nigga.

>>221007160
>>221007216
>>221007670

Watched it in a dub with actors who actually sort of knew their shit, at least for the first two seasons. One of the few moments when, though translation was incorrect (e.g. Venom was called "Black death") the overall tone and delivery was way less cringy.

>>221008934
I think X-Men until Savage land were ok. After that it was somewhat hit or miss.

>>221008150
Best Carmage voice, shame they replaced the whole killing aspect of him.

>>221009714
3D spider man was okayish, I liked that it was more grim and ended on a hell of a downer.

There was also that cartoon where Spiderman goes to furry universe to save Jameson's son, and I distinctly remember them using original theme in the first episode, hinting at it as sequel.

Alright. Just fired up the first episode. I better not be disappointed.

>>221009956
In the Mysterio episode once a cop says to Peter (or to Spidey, don't remember) that Spider-Man never turned his back when he was needed, Peter thinks to himself that he did it once, and then we have a short flashback on how Ben's died.

Also, the origins of some villains are shown in the episodes they are introduced. Scorpion, Electro and Green Goblin come to mind.

Unlike most of you, I watched this show when it aired. Here's what I remember most:
Flash was a gigachad. He bullied Peter all the time. But when Peter transforms into the spider and gets a chance to kill Flash, he suddenly has a memory for Flash being fun and jolly and decides not to kill him. That always bothered me. If he had any memories of Flash they would be of him being a bully.

>>221010395
he steals lifeforce, but yeah if you can't do carnage as carnage then why bother including him

>>221008303
>Actually in all realism playing rock em sockem robots is not a good strategy wrestling moves to disable your opponent and put him into a lock are far more effective. Something that happens a lot in these episodes.
lmao this is an attempt at a cope and not true at all.
>i punch you
>you are unconscious/dead instantly

>i wrestle you
>i can either break your limbs or choke you unconscious, the latter taking several seconds leaving me exposed.

They overdid Spidey's snarky comments. He just won't shut the fuck up during fights.

>>221009861
Peter is usually better when he's written to be confident and any social awkwardness is because of having to deal with Spider-Man shit

>>221010853
quips, he makes quips
it's kinda his thing but I understand the modern fatigue

at our school, the rule was:
if you watch Batman, you're fine.
if you watch Spider-Man, you're gay.

it was like having a Tamagotchi when Digimon came along. you'd get the piss ripped out of you.

lol'd when the Batman VA died a few years ago, and they revealed he'd been a genuine poofter the whole time. the irony there.

>>221010853
nah this was super kino

First episode completed. Its kino. Thanks. I will continue watching this today.

I had nightmares for weeks when I saw the episode that's basically a fever dream where he turns into man spider or something.

>>221010853
I liked his commentary because they sold this idea that being Spider-man was a bullshit job and Peter would get really tired of it at times.

>>221008303
Holy cope.
This Spider-Man used to grapple with villains which made no sense to grapple with - like venom and electro.

>>221007160
>The show is so good it is unreal.

Yeah its pretty kino, used to watch on kids channel

>>221008150
Agree with kingpin and Felicia.
But spectacular had a better theme song, better animation and a Spidey who actually punched.
And the black suit storyline was streets ahead of this one for 2 major reasons
>the symbiote initially started out as an inverse color scheme of Spider-Man's suit, but as the symbiote's influence grew, the logo grew bigger and we got the classic black suit
>the symbiote didn't give Peter the generic growly voice like the 90s show. It started as a lower pitched version of his own voice thus giving Peter more reason to second guess himself
Just pure kino

>>221011976
Sounds good. I'll have to give Spectacular a watch after this.

>>221011998
I highly suggest it. Even I was initially averse to watching it because of the art style but the plotlines, voice acting and animation won me over.
Fair warning, it does end on a cliffhanger of sorts which never got resolved since the show was cancelled.

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>>221007160
>modern tv and movies are so bad that a 90's cartoon is now considered kino.
KEK

>>221007311
The Shocker is one of Spider-Man's iconic villains. Good job outing yourself as a fake fan, jam boy.

>>221012221
recognised maybe but not iconic
if you'd rather see shocker or rhino instead of electro or mysterio then there's something wrong with you

>>221012267
These days all of those villains are about the same level of recognition/iconic-ness.
Electro and Mysterio both show up very early in the series and are part of the Sinister 6 (both in the original team in Annual #1 and the reappearance in the early 90s) but in the 21st century all 4 are 'low tier' villains.

Green Goblin, Venom, and Doc Ock are the only 'big' Spider-Man villains these days. Everyone who shows up in The Gauntlet storyline (Vulture, Lizard, Rhino, Electro, Sandman, Mysterio) is kind of second string alongside Kraven, Chamelon, and Shocker. Carnage and Hobgoblin ae kind of in a weird limbo where they aren't considered 'regular' foes of Spider-Man but still aren't a top-tier threat when they appear. The Enforcers have been reduced to comic relief.

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Bros... ;_;

Spiderman talks to himself too much.

>>221012690
it's unclear what's internal monologue and what's him blabbing to the baddies.

i hated this cartoon as a kid. it carries over the corny shit from e.g. Captain Planet, where characters describe everything they're doing.

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>>221008973
eeeeeeww

>>221012820
>tranime reaction
Into the trash it goes

>>221007216
I just remembered how the MCU totally wasted shocker as a villain. Never even gave him a proper mask.

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>>221007160
this show gets ruined by all the awful morbius shit ( just way too much morbius) and the lack of a proper ending

I'm surprised they never revived this show like they did for x men 97

>>221012987
he morbed all over the show

>>221009090
>shear

jesus fucking christ you covid kids are RETARDED

>>221012820
>>221012907
this cartoon was so stupid.

>abloobloo magic mecha shite
>also we have to get our tits out for no reason
>MUH TRAUMA!!!

we really hoodwinked ourselves for a couple of decades into thinking anime was some kind of 'other culture' storytelling, and that if something seemed bad, it was in fact 'superior Japanese' storytelling.

they're just fucking creeps. transcends culture. nobody pretends Indian rapists making videos are actually honoring their Bharat-damashii.

anyway, some day AI will find you all. retrospectively, what images you've accessed.

>>221012946
black cat was so fucking hot in this show, her and rogue from x-men were my childhood ascension to manhood

>>221007670
>Spectacular was better
Having the creator of Gargoyles helps.

>>221013012
Nice necro-reply, neanderthal

>>221007160
>Fat Lex Luthor
Bravo, Stan

>>221007670
Spectacular does a better job with pacing and I like the characterization of the villains more. The high school setting leans more on silly drama than I like but it's personal taste.
Fights are better choreographed (probably due to relaxed censor rules) too.

TAS has better animation style and character designs in my opinion. I think the voice work is a lot more iconic as well. Peter, Kingpin, Eddie Brock, Hobgoblin, and lots of others are the defacto voices I hear in my head when I read the comics. I think it's a shame that Ed Asner doesn't get more credit as JJJ because he does a 10/10 job (it's just that Simmons ended up doing an 11/10 job a few years later).

TAS has better music too but it suffers from ADHD pacing to the point where I feel like the sound editing actually cuts out natural silences in speech to speed it up even more. The fights are also corny, again, probably due to censorship rules.

I prefer Spectacular too overall but I don't think it's unreasonable to prefer TAS. I think TAS is extremely emblematic of what was going on in the comics at the time too which makes it a great companion to the comics if you were reading them as a kid. Spectacular doesn't mesh very well with Amazing and even Ultimate, which had Peter in high school, didn't connect very well.

>>221009264
Yeah. I think you can apreciate it as a good cartoon from the time while also lamenting what they did to Macross.

>>221012174
They white washed Nick Fury?!

>>221007670
>Spectacular was better.

i didn't like the Scott Pilgrim artstyle, or the dorky-but-hip Peter Parker (i guess that's just how he is in the comics, now...?). Venom sucks compared to the 90s series tbfrank.

i say, give me a period piece set in the 1960s where he is actually a bookworm who gets superpowers. drag out his teenage-to-college life a little bit more, expand on e.g. the romance with Betty Brant.
no nanotech clones or multiverses or any of that shit. in fact, if they DO bring in a more recent villain or storyline, 'backport' them to that style.
mite b cool.

i feel like they missed what made the ORIGINAL comics enjoyable, but there's this whole host of Spidey fans who likes him having a Spider-Mobile and a team of Spider-Bots and whatever else. like him balancing his superhero/personal life is just boring, bring in more time travel pls.

>>221007924
>Can't say "kill" or "die" ("Don't you want to destroy the man who is responsible for your father's disappearance in a fuckhuge explosion, Smythe?")
>Villain bursts through a wall with a glass door in the middle, the wall is blown into splinters but not a single shard of glass in sight
>Everybody has laser guns
Cuck producers. Meanwhile Broadway guns down Elisa over on Gargoyles

>>221009182
>Arrow flashbacks
Fuck you

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>>221013514
>fat
Wrong and gay.

>>221013720
Ostracized, because of my weight.

>>221013720
looksmaxxers on suicide watch realising this is really 2% body fat

>>221007668
I always thought it was
>fire one, fire one, when you want to fire one, spider man

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>>221013681
Arrow S1 was kino and i'm tired of pretending it wasn't.

unless you mean later on, when the flashbacks stopped being on the island and shit. hell, i swear the writers FORGOT the 'Arrow Cave' was under a nightclub. characters sort of just...teleported around. they ended up making the exact same mistakes as later Smallville:
>(character x) has nothing to do...what if she opens a coffee shop?
WHAT'S YOUR OBSESSION, WRITERS?

>>221013816
>the episode where his retarded druggie sister takes a pill and so he decides to murder 200 drug dealers
That's like if I had a friend who almost died of alcohol poisoning so I decide to blow up the Jack Daniels distillery and murder all of the employees

>>221013637
Forgot
>"Sinister" is too spoopy for children

>Chad Parker juggles 3 top models at the same time
>Chad Parkers goes through life threatening and being dominant to everyone, Spider-man is even more of a Chad
>Spider-man gets impatient and insults Blade, beats his shit and throws Blade equipment into the ground for no reason. >He also overchads the X-men and Punisher in the same season
>Eddie Brock gets several episodes as a loser buffon before being introduced as Venom, unlike the comic books or other adaptations where he is introduced right away
>The PG series against any odds manages to portray the Punisher as a Terminatorlike ruthless killing machine. Despise the obvious censorship and limits, you believe the Punisher is there to kill you. And he fails by such thin margins, that it doesnt make him a loser
>A lot of villains are common sense and dont get into the evil revolving door. After the first problem Kraven becomes an ally. Connors too.
>characters behave like adults, instead of teenager manchildren like modern X-men or Spider-man comic books
Yeah, definitive version 100%. Hope it never comes back so they dont ruin it with gay shit.

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>>221007924
why yes? i lift my opinions from twitter users who didnt watch the series

>>221013838
is that the one where he returns to Starling City and she's a druggie before she becomes a druggie later (i.e. earlier)?

the new Batman will run into the same problem if it keeps going, with more films and TV shows.
>Count Vertigo is actually 'The Count' and the delirium is from a drug called 'Vertigo'.
okay. interesting, grounded take. Nolan-esque.
but before long you'll have a Zatanna series where magic is real and Vladamir Mxyzptlk the Russian mobster wasn't the REAL Mister Mxyzptlk, but actually...

>>221013816
>Arrow S1
Thanks for reminding me to watch this show. Gteat thread for recs desu

>>221010687
Didnt happen. Flash never actually bullies him. The only time he tries to do that, Peterchad stops him in the spot. And Flash goes away.
Then you have a flashback when he was a kid, where chick Peter wanted to impress goes out with Flash, but Flash doesnt bully him. He just gets the girl.
Then in morbius saga, they have a one on one talk about the lab chick, but its friendly banter, and a complete display of camaraderie.
Flash also manages to save Spider-man, so Peter would never have anything against him.

>>221013927
This.
1994 had bullshit censorship but it's not like it was policed that heavily. Sometimes Peter does use his arms. There is also stuff like Jameson's wife dying in a drive-by shooting with a realistic gunshot sound.

>>221014128
Despise the reduced amount of punches, the series is mature though its themes, storytelling and how characters behave in rational ways like adults. Cant believe someone thinks Spectacular, a kid show, is a better show because it has more punches.

>>221014008
Just don't watch AFTER season 1. Instead watch the 1990s The Flash series and Lois & Clark: The New Adventures of Superman

>>221014190
Why, what happens after S1?

>>221014213
He decides to stop killing people and turns into temu batman. He goes back to killing in season 5 but by then the show had already become irredeemable trash so it improved nothing.

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bros... this was too much as a kid. parker just couldnt catch a break in this series

>>221014354
imagine Vince Donofrio banging Tom Holland lololol

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>>221013637
for me, it's the Dungeons & Dragons episode where the kids are sick of the main villain's shit, and decide to just kill him.

of course they pussy out at the last second, but it has a pretty grim tone to it. commentary track is interesting (they were ALLOWED to show more violence since kids couldn't 'imitate' magic weapons, they just played it safe).

>>221008303
you sound kinda gay

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As bad as that was, it wasn't even the most disturbing example of "Parker luck" in the series.

>>221014553
meant for>>221014355

>>221007160
Probably the most important piece of Spider-Man media ever considering all the movies and games afterwards are just variations of what happened in the show.

>>221014764
it's like the 60s Batman series, where everything else is essentially a footnote. that's just what Batman *is* in the collective consciousness (same with the 1978 Superman).

>>221013720
what other ones was he in? I have a distinct memory of him bellowing "it's alll Muscle!" while he's manhandling Spidey.

bump for cool shit

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>>221007160
Kino. Probably the definitive Spiderman for me even though I hear the PS1 Neversoft Spidermans voice in my head whenever I read spideys speech bubbles.

>>221012639
You all disappoint me

>>221007615
Batman TAS is very overrated. The first season is solid, then they apparently had no more animation budget for the next ones.

Also there's 1 great episode for every 10 mid ones

>>221011557
Does no one remember this? Was this even real? I clearly remember him turning into an actual fucking spider and he went completely nuts, I think he even grew extra arms and shit.

>>221009090
Okay, first: Spider-Man and the X-Men only crossed over during the Spider-Man series. Spider-Man was never in an episode of X-Men. The two episodes featuring the X-Men are the Mutant Agenda. Storm pops up again but only at the end of the series in the Secret Wars three parter.

Second, go back to school and learn to spell!

>>221009264
Don't forget about Exo-Squad!
Tons of Death, fights and philosophical and ethics brought up on both (three or four sides) of the war!

>>221013816
the arrow would obviously pierce the glove

>>221011557
>>221018348
Man-Spider is indeed real.
https://youtu.be/BvKlZhc3JlY?t=120

>>221009647
Spider-Man 1981 and Amazing Friends also have an "Adult" Peter Parker.

>>221018348
no, that does happen, exactly like that.

>>221009714

Spider-Man: The New Animated Series.
It was the Mtv series.

It was really good and ended on a cliffhanger. Most people back then, if they watched the whole thing, actually liked it!

>>221009647
man, what was up with the alien planet cartoon. That's such a strange premise to go with.
I thought it was kind of awesome at the time, admittedly.

>>221010939
At least he wasn't lonely, ostracised, because of his WEIGHT

It was excellent.

But every episode is short and the intro song feels like 10% of the show after the commercials are removed.
30 min time slot turned into 20 after commercials per week for the detail of the comics felt very rushed.
Like speed reading the comics.

>>221018589
It doesnt, the dream is about Peter thinking he is a huge spider with Peter head. Thats a nightmare he has the night he was bitten by the radioactive spider.

>>221010670
Sure, but Doc Ock exists, Smythe, Kingpin, Hobgoblin, Shocker, Rhino. They just show up.

>>221018623
huh, I just looked into that. Apparently the were forbidden from directly adapting the comics or even using the regular Spiderman suit at the time, because the Raimi movie was coming out. That explains everything.

>>221018835
The pace of show is so fast I never even notice when I've already watched like 10 minutes out of an episode. It's an effect I don't really feel with anything else.

I've rewatched the show recently and it's amazing the amount of screen time wasted on relationships. Even Venom has an episode in which he had a girlfriend. Lol

>>221012174
>became Nig Fury

Thanks op, I know what I'll be watching tonight now.

The Sega CD game was exquisite (at the time). SAVE THIS CITY SAVE IT FROM THE EDGE OF DESTRUCTION
fucking kino

>>221013604
Peter was always a hip dork in the comics (Lee & Ditko). He was constantly being invited to parties and stuff by cute girls, but Spider-Man constantly got in the way. He even had Betty, an older woman, crushing on him. Spectacular was a very well done modernization of those original comics. Marvel Studios could learn a thing or two.

>>221009672
Are you thinking of Spider-Man Unlimited?

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>>221019766
Spider-man Unlimited was made cause of a lot of weird dumb reasons. One being some coporate stooge, idr who, just plan didn't like John Semper Jr. He was what you would call the "show runner" of the original 90's animated series. And once he was at the end of his 65 episodes, they ordered a finale and ended it. Really to take spider-man away from Semper.

Semper hoped he'd get a revival, that they'd order 8-13 episodes more, since it was such a huge hit and the ratings were strong, toy sales too. Sempers take was, make a good show, keep kids coming back, they'll buy the toys. With how long animation takes, the show was taken from him before the last season ever aired.

Marvel owed Fox a show. They were doing Avengers and looked at various solo heroes and just fell right back to spider-man.

Sony didn't actually have the rights when Spider-man Unlimited was being made. MGM may have had the rights. Part of the negotiations and issues they didn't want to devalue appearances of villains or confuse kids with a cartoon version. They already ended the Semper TAS series and couldn't do more episodes of that without it being even more expensive at this point. They were going to do spider-man 2099, but were afraid of copying batman beyond, and did counter earth instead..... for some fucking reason.

>>221014486
Holy warcraft skill icon thumbnail