Overhated.
It's interesting that the first TWO X-Men movie directors were both sexual predators who would later get MeToo'd and move to Israel.As if something in Fox's hiring process specifically favored that
>>221007959It pissed away all the momentum set up in X2 to do even more wolverine and less anything else. It fully deserves its hate.>over the top danger room opening>kill off cyclops>Jean's alive and is immediately evil>kill off Prof X>Rogue exits movie>depower Mystique>no other returning villains>Magneto orders the murder of a mutant child and no one questions it>way way too much wolverineI'll give the movie credit for>Beast>Kitty Pride>IcemanBut this all happened at the loss too many characters. I should dig up the spec script for 3 and 4 singer had commissioned. Ive read it several times. It is way way way better and fox should have used it.
>>221008058>Magneto orders the murder of a mutant child and no one questions itDid you, uhhh, skip the first movie?
>>221008058should have just made Wolverine movies with the X-men as supporting cast which is basically the first film.
>>221007959It tried to combine three different comic book storylines into one movie and it's a fucking mess. The mutant cure, the mutant civil war and Dark Phoenix. Just pick one retards and save the others for later sequels, instead of slapping them all together into a massive clusterfuck.
>>221008058>the Danger Room should be underwhelming>what is a character arc >Dark Pheonix >what is a character arc >what is a character arc >what is a character arc >dead or irrelevant >just like the first film >no such thing 3 was a great end to the trilogy until DOFP ruined it with time travel slop because bugmen can't handle consequences or people dying.
>>221008093He plans to do this himself, with a certain sense of weight to it. He apologizes to Rogue about it. Its not an order being carried out by others.
>>221008164Character swiftly being shuffled away to make room for Wolverine is not a character arc.
>>221008191The very first movie establishes he's willing to kill anyone, human or mutant, for le mutant cause. You're clutching at straws.
>>221007959I think you mean not nearly hated enough.
>>221008361His entire army of mutants is willing to kill a mutant child. This not the same as Magneto remorsefully being willing to secretly kill Rogue. You're seriously just stupid to not see the difference.
>>221007959I fully checked out when Mystique lost her powers and he drops her like its fucking nothing. Shit was so fucking retarded.
>>221008056Matthew Vaughn also knocked up betty from mad men even though he was married
>>221008056>It's interesting that the first TWO X-Men movie directors were both sexual predators who would later get MeToo'dIt's interesting that they basically continued the witch hunt and moving the goalposts until they basically ran all of the talented people out of town.
>>221007959>X-Men>Dark and violent>X-Men 2>Darker and more violent>X-Men 3>Comic book movie
>>221008744???
>>221008769>B-b-but they're all comic book movies!The point is it feels completely out of place with the other two and where Singer was taking them.
>>221008769>???The answer is Brett Ratner is a hack and was in way over his head.
>>221007959No idea these retarded boomers have with Phoenix saga. Oh wait, I know, they are a bunch of woman worshiping occult faggots
>>221008819>>2210088503 is the movie where people permanently die, lose their powers, and stab their lovers in the chest.DOFP is the cartoon where everyone comes back to life ackchooally and lives happily ever after.
>>221008866The suits in charge don't really know or understand the comics. They have only heard that "The Dark Phoenix Saga" is supposedly the greatest arc in the history of comics. They don't even realize that X-Men actually became even more popular after it and the peak in X-Men popularity was years later with the John Romita Jr., Jim Lee and Mark Silvestri eras.
>>221008997Wolverine commits mass murder in 2.
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>>221009632I don't get it.
>>221008689You could make that argument about Bryan Singer but not rattnerHe made nothing but slop
>>221009662OP says: Overhated.Replace the 'h' with 'r', it becomes overrated.
>>221008850Brett Ratner barely gave a shit. It was a paycheck movie for him. The movie went through constant re-writes cause they never knew which actors were free and for how long.
>>221010022Brett Ratner already had a reputation for being a hack leading up to X3 and the fans weren't happy about him being the one to helm it as a replacement. And I remember him going on the media circuit trying to convince people that he totally wasn't a hack. Like specifically trying to convince people that he wasn't a hack leading up the premeire of X3.
No, 3 was pretty lame.Now this was overhated. Aside from what they did to Deadpool (which they rectified in the post credit scene, so I have no idea what the big deal was) I can't see anything to complain about in here. This is the best movie in the x-men franchise. One of the few improvements that could be made would be having Brian Cox return as Stryker.>X-Men Origins Wolverine > X2 X-Men United > The Wolverine > X-Men Days of Future Past > X-Men > X-Men First Class > X-Men The Last Stand > Logan > Deadpool > X-Men Apocalypse > Deadpool 2
>>221010577Motherfucker the only good things about Origins are the title sequence and the fight with Blob.
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