No creed doesnt count
>>221015113In the 80s you had the mysticism of martial arts Frank dux literally made shit up and people actually believed himNowadays people just expose grifters like him
>>221015162>In the 80s you had the mysticism of martial artsThis really, and CCWs were comparatively uncommon. Now people just carry a heater
Because Gen Z is fucking gay.
>>221015183>CCWs were comparatively uncommonyou are actually retarded
>>221015113Britain gave Hong Kong back to China and all the great martial arts stars are washed up or dead
UFC, MMA and Brazilian jiu jitsu ruined fighting movies. Yeah, they demystified martial arts but also took out all the fun and mystery and spiritual parts that gave us much kino.
Guess between the known and the unknown lies the Codeman, dude.
>>221015198In the 80s there were way fewer people carrying than today, and a number of states didn't even allow it
>>2210151131. MMA has crushed the larp martial art fantasy. 2. A bunch of vidya that revolved around fighting were big back then, especially fueled by the popularity of arcades. 3. This is also during the golden age of action flicks, which is to say a period were being handsome and roided up with a speech impediment or action was considered cool. You still see fighting in films and tv, it’s just mostly in capeshit now.
My body's ready, my heart's on fireI'm gonna push it over the wirePerfect timing, tight as a drum, final battle's already wonI'm taking hold of every moment
Also can we consider The Matrix trilogy the last big “fighting movies”? Or does the supernatural/simulation shit make it closer to capeshit fighting?
>>221015183it was EASIER to get guns in the 80s compared to now
>>221015162This is pretty much the answer. People now know that Kung Fu and other assorted martial arts are a meme now thanks to the UFC so interest in martial arts films pretty much died once the mystique was shattered
>>221015333Guns and permitted CCWs aren't interchangeable terms
>>221015113The Raid 2 was just over a decade ago, and remains the gold standard.
>>221015415The raid only worked because it was set in a country where gun ownership is banned
>>221015415It's baffling how much dicksucking those Raid movies get. They're completely forgettable
>>221015396You don't need a CCW to carry. Do you live in California or something?
>>221015415Not even close, Fist of Legend remains the gold standard of martial arts film. The Raid films are trash. There are hundreds of better martial arts movies than those turds
>>221015162Fpbp also wanted to add that this was a time of much more closed global markets so it added to that exotic view of eastern MMA. Now you have basically everything at your fingertips.
>>221015476>Zoomer "knows" the past
>>221015113Supposedly a movie is coming out better than The Raid seen at film festivals, forgive me I forgot the name but I am stoked for it.
It's because we have fight scenes in everything now and the set up for modern fighter themed films is real boring. Being at it's very core UFC isn't particularly interesting to watch cinematic wise and doesn't transfer over to film well. So why bother to limit yourself to fighter themed story when you can make an all around action film?
>>221015611I have ChatGPT now sorry for this stupid post okay the movie is called The Furious. It stars Joe Taslim, who played Jaka in The Raid and is directed by Kenji Tanigaki.>>221015516I think The Raid is great but the issue with it is people thinking it obsoleted all martial arts movies and it doesn't hit the same beats as Fist of Legend as your example. What I would say it fits into are fights that feel like snuff films. The Snuff Kungfu genre where you feel like the people are real and really dying in front of you, rather than experiencing honorable combat or emotional combat between rivals.Ong-Bak, Brawl in Cell Block 99, A Company Man some of the more grim and mechanical parts of John Wick where you just see him lock up with a man and shoot his head and he drops. The Raid might be the #1 in that brutal bloody genre but its not #1 overall as a martial arts film.
>>221015516Drunken Master and the sequel piss all over Fist of Legend. Jet Li movies are too heavily edited.
>>221015516>Fist of Legend remains the gold standard of martial arts filmIt's the strongest 6/10 martial art movie imaginable.
>>221015298Given strength by the breath of lifeI'm gonna stake my claimI fight to survive!
Oliver harper is working on a blood sport documentary
>>221015113This nigger hasn't even seen The Furious
>>221016117JCVD's life is kino enough for a documentary too
>>221015162I can accept a fictionalized and sensationalized version of martial arts for a movie, anything that isn't trying to emulate MMA with leg kicks and headlocks
>>221015113I'm pretty sure they're still churning out Ip Man sequels.
scott adkins is still making movies i think. havent seen anything recently
>>221015162>Nowadays people just expose grifters like himI wish I could believe you, but stuff like the AI grift is going on right now unchecked.
why do you want more movies like this when you can just rewatch this very movie on vhs?
>>2210151131) No actors know how to fight2) No one knows how to edit fight scenes anymore3) It would be a legal and bureaucratic nightmare to have people fighting in a film these days. In those 70s, 80s and 90s hong kong fighting movies, they really are hitting and kicking each other. The performers are getting completely fucked up. They had amulances on set ready to take them to the hospital..... You couldn't do that kind of thing anymore.
>>221015113We've seen all the moves
>>221015415The raid 2 sucks dude.
>>221015113White male can't be inspired to do anything that matters. How old are you?
>>221015113The Furious is coming out. lol.
>>221015319The Raid and Ip man series come to mind.
There's a fighting movie coming out next Friday.
>>221018187Frank Dux is literally still grifting
>>221018769The Furious
>>221018974What's he up to these days?
