If a terrorist group with a confirmed nuke takes a city hostage IRL, would the US government really step down and let them do whatever they want? Let's say they take over Manhattan and make the same demands as Bane; every bridge going out is monitored and if one person leaves, the bomb goes off.
this specific part is near impossible>if one person leaves, the bomb goes offway too difficult for Manhattan, over a million people, a lot of them poor and a non-insignificant amount of them will of not heard the announcements and will just panic run/escape or you know, not know any fucking english?even the rich IN manhattan will fucking try to escape hard even if they know they aren't supposed tonot to mention people are 24/7 moving in/out of the city anyway in addition to that people will just try to swim it, which didn't happen in the movie cuz it was frozen... tl;dr dumb threat
>>221019818>will of not heardlel
>>221019707they would just bomb it themselves
>>221019707under normal circumstances, but in TDKR it's a big guy making the demands
>>221019818OK I forgot one important detail; they blew up all the bridges but one, where they had sentries standing guard. I do concede that people would still try to swim across and it's not impossible for someone to slip out.In any case I'm more interested in what the US government IRL would do. In the movie they sent one squad to infiltrate, failed, then just gave up.
>>221019707Manhattan island belongs to the banks more than it does the state. I'm sure the government would be more than happy to let things run their course and then swoop in a couple years later to look as heroic as possible.
>>221019707They would probably nuke Gotham themselves in thinking it would stop them from launching one.
look at what shithole democrat run cities are and you'll realize the government has been letting terrorist groups do what they want in cities for a long time
>>221020341The US government irl would have already had intel, been fully aware of the plans, and stopped it well before it came to fruition.
>>221019707bane vs trump who wins?
>>221019707We would launch an airstrike that takes out the nukes location ( known almost immediately due to intelligence ops ) then carpet bomb NYC for the following 23 weeks before capturing bane and sending him to guantanamo bay.
Realistically they'd just siege Manhattan, and if the nuke goes off then well shit, that was Bane and the terrorists' fault, and we don't negotiate with terrorists. The biggest dilemma in the government would be the warhawks trying to figure out how to blame the attack on the country they want to invade next.
>>221020431trump just invites bane to be his vp
>>221020459The pit was in some thirdie shithole, but the original league had weeb vibes out the wazoo. Pacific theatre 2: Electric Boogaloo?
>>221020502bazinga!
>>221019707In real life he would be a Mossad agent
/k/ here- every frequency in the city would be jammed, you may think I'm saying walkie talkies and FM bands, no I mean EVERY frequency, the city would become a blank spot on the map for communications and signals- Next, every checkpoint, every commander, every single person holding a weapon or standing at a post is getting ID'd. Since most of the heavy hitters are convicts the first place to start is corrections records. Identify arms and weapons, stockpiles and armories, what kind of inventory system do they use? How do they track and log their vehicles?ISR and drones will be running 24/7 over the city with a priority on scanning for nuclear signals, a bomb that powerful and actively transmitting a signal to some kind of detonator should be unbelievably easy to find.- SOC/FBI/DHS/NSA/Ground Branch/ *insert federal enforcement agency* infiltrates the island and begins working ground recon/surveillance on every high level target on the list, working their way from the bomb down in terms of priority.- Finally, execute: The trucks carrying the nuke are intercepted, tanks roll down the main bridge, amphibious landings around the city begin. All in all 4 weeks total have passed and the operation is a resounding success because the terrorists element of surpise have worn off and technological superiority has rendered their entire plan worthless
>>221021042>/k/ here
I wanted to make another "big guy for you" post but it just made me realize that 2012 was 14 fucking years ago and it made me sad
>>221019707Film makers don't really know the highest level of tech available for the worst scenarios, so who knows.
>>221023084It's a long time.
>>221020341Depending on the president would get different various outcomes for this situation.Obama - Negotiate for the people to be allowed to leave in exchange for whatever their demands are.Biden - Sacrifice the city and the people to destroy Bane refusing to compromiseTrump - Schizo flip flopping between offering to cut Bane a deal, to threats of dropping a bigger nuke on them than the one they already have.
The US Government would be the ones behind it.
>>221023084I was wondering what would break first
>>221019707> I stopped in a convenience store, I'm waiting in line to pay and the guy in front of me puts down a dozen doughnuts, two big bags of Doritos, one of those cheap one-gallon bottles of the generic brand fruit punch, and a nasty old rotting banana.He turns to the clerk and says to him, "My girlfriend just had an operation she can only eat certain things."I look at him and I go, "Yeah right, what did she have, a bong-hit transplant?"What did Bane mean by that?
>>221023321Bush - invade Iraq
This would never happen because ever nuclear nation on Earth has a vested interest in making sure no one else gets nukes so they all keep watch for suspicious shit.A terrorist group could not acquire the material, equipment or people needed to make a nuke without attracting attention. It is literally impossible.The very best you could hope for is a nuclear capable nation giving a nuke to a terrorist group but that isn't going to happen because even nations that fucking despise each other, like how Iran and North Korea feel about the US, aren't stupid enough to do that because they know what the ramifications would be.
>>221020430Reminds me of something they failed to do during for that one tragedy
>>221019707 Dense cities go to shit almost immediately if services stop. In 1 week everything street lvl would be covered in trash, in 2 weeks people would be starving (I know they show food being shipped in, it wouldn’t be enough, In 3 weeks the lack of maintenance on things like water pumps would start to add up, a catastrophic cascade failure would start to put large parts of the city without water, and or power. If no food didn’t make people go crazy, the no water will.In 5 weeks the buildup of filth and lack of hygiene and the dead body’s would be sending deasises through the city.
9/11 proved yes. They could have shot those planes down.I heard the pilots were female and they made the call to not shoot them down
>>221023463anyone smart enough to make a nuke on their own probably has a full department of spooks monitoring them lel
>>221020341>In any case I'm more interested in what the US government IRL would doplan it, execute it and blame it on Israel's enemies to go to a war with them
>>221021042*presses the "DO NOT PUSH" button that's on the nuke*what now, dumb LARPer?
>>221021042>/k/ hereHasn't meant anything in years, if it ever did. You retards notoriously overestimate and are ideologically captured and this makes you completely irrational.>muh technological superiorityHow's that working out in Iran?Now proceed to piss and shit yourself as you explain why um actually that's different.
>>221023484The problem was fighter jets stationed domestically weren't kept armed back then. By the time they knew hijackers needed to be shot down it was too late to arm jets and catch up to them. Now the military keeps jets armed 24/7 across the country so they can immediately shoot down hijacked planes if necessary.
>>221023600anon the jets were following the 9/11 planes, they could have shot them down any time.I watched it live. They weighed up a hundred casualties and ended up with thousands.They could have shot the planes engines off and forced a crash landing. People go on about 9/11 conspiracies and thats the singular weirdest one thats actually true.
>>221023655Retard.
>>221023721oh looks like we gotta live one here. Stfu retard, don't talk about stuff you are completely ignorant of.The order to shoot came before the planes had crashed into the towers but they didn't have authorisation https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/9/11_conspiracy_theories#Air-defense_stand-down_theory
>>221021042look at all that delicious russian seething you elicited
>>221023600thats a complete lie
>>221023848Did you try reading your own link?>The longest warning NORAD received of the hijackings was some eight minutes for American Airlines Flight 11, the first flight hijacked. The FAA alerted NORAD to the hijacked Flight 175 at just about the same time it was crashing into the World Trade Center's South Tower.
>>221024027idiot
>>221024058retard
>>221023469Reminds of thing they enacted to spy on Americans because some of them want to kill their leaders for allowing that one tragedy.
>>221024068Thats you. Retarded redditor. You lied and stated they had no armed jets when they had over a dozen ready to go. They put two armed jets in the air.They even admitted the jets could have intercepted the planes but were told to hold off because of the air space restrictions and no authorisation to shoot
>>221019707The US doesn't negotiate with terrorists.
>>221025737>The US doesn't negotiate with terrorists.I don't know why people still believe that, they obviously do and have done many times
>>221023321>Trump - Schizo flip flopping between offering to cut Bane a deal, to threats of dropping a bigger nuke on them than the one they already have.Libcuck detected, Bane wouldn't dare try it while Trump was president for fear of the consequences, the same way Russia only decided to reclaim Ukraine once Biden stole the presidency.Peace through strength, retard
>>221021042>every frequency in the city would be jammedKABOOM
>>221026135same guy who wants to disarm nato and give ukraine over btw
>>221020459>US invades fucking Nepal for housing the League of Shadows