>My heels are struck in barn! - you're laughing, you're laughing. I have to travel to Wisconsin today because of what you did.
>Commiefornians literally just mail in unvetted ballots anytime they start to lose the election>all this so they can keep homeless druggies on the streets, millions of illegals pouring in, and hellish fires every yearboggles the mind
>>221024276It's incredible how /tv/ is the most migger board. Even most of /pol/ has had enough of the orange golem.
>>221024569It makes sense when you realize that they're psychopaths.
>>221024276Lol I just watched this he immediately got annoyed by her voice and seagull wife style and couldn't recover his good will because she kept squawking
>>221024592>appeal to popularityFaggy woman's argumentI just happen to think infinite immigrants is worse than anything a leftist will offer me
>>221024276What ethnicity is this supposed to be
>>221024569>I don’t understand at all how ballots work but let me just spit conspiracy theories about them because I’ve seen other dumb people say it tooOkay thanks, schizo. Don’t forget to buy more aluminium foil at the store
>>221024656Yeah he was so alpha when he bitch quits after the reporter doesn’t just agree with his lies and then awkwardly hobbles away like an old guy with one foot in the grave. He’s so macho I would suck him off and not even think it’s gay because he’s that alpha
>>221024569>californians exercise their right to send their votes in>i hate this???
>>221024666mutt
>>221024592I feel pretty smart because I didn't vote for either candidate. I knew it was going to be a disaster either way and now I can sit back and enjoy whatever happens without beating myself up over making the wrong choice. (Spoiler: They were both wrong). Watching the world collapse is kino.
Look at that fat fuck. I didn't know they made diapers that big. His cankles were barely able to support him, he nearly had to brace himself on Welker's shoulder to keep from falling.
>heel I thought OP is joking
>>221024276Why the fuck they were in a barn?
>>221024592Are you retarded? /pol/ has been the brownest board by far since 2020. It's literally occupied by the very people they used to ridicule. Nothing but commies and browns.
>>221024992Im ghostly pale and a capitalist though
>>221024988I think it was raining outside so the best they could do if they were going to still do it was conduct the interview in that barn
Tbh she was being a cunt, he was being an old dementia retard. He kew the jew questions were coming and rage quit early.
>>221025081thanks anon. still hilarious though
>i love spending hundreds of billions on the behest of israel, in return for the privilege of paying more for gas and a bunch of other thingswhat a bunch of pathetic buck broken bootlickers, some of you might be white on the surface, but you are brown underneath
>>221024569>all this so they can keep homeless druggies on the streets, millions of illegals pouring in, and hellish fires every yearIf you think about it long enough you might just figure out what it is about all those things that make them uniquely suitable for achieving their true goals.
>>221025114>He kew the jew questions were comingUhmmm who's gonna spill the beans for this jeet migger?
>>221025114>she was being a cuntBecause she didn’t allow him to just lie and make false statements? What is a journalist supposed to do exactly, just let the interviewee ramble and lie and say nothing?
Bros... Papa Trump is going to be alright, right?
>>221024592/pol/ is more brown than ever
>Demanding evidence for claims is leftismLmao
>>221025436borrowed time
>>221025483>Election takes a month to count votes is safe and effective l
>>221025509>they managed to rig the election when they werent in power>but they didnt manage to rig the election when they were in power
>>221025509First time you paid attention to an election?
>>221025509Well Tulsi and the FBI seized Fulton County’s 2020 ballots six months ago. Where’s the announcements of all the “fraud” they found?
>>221025543It makes sense when you think about it
>>221025543That’s the part I find fucking hilarious. Apparently, it’s only possible under the umbrella of incompetence Trump brings to governance.
>>221025543It was a series of local elections in California, which they 100% control every aspect of.
Why is some foreign brown gate keeping political thought in my country?
>>221025385Anyone with eyes can see thew vote discrepancies For fuck sakes boxes of unmarked ballots were being mailed to random houses in maine last year
>>221024768>I cut my dick and balls off because I'm insane and delusional want you to believe I'm a real woman.Fuck off troon.
when is anyone getting prosecuted over the alleged election fraud btw?
>>221024592The decline of the US empire is reality /tv/ to the rest of the world.
>>221024655it makes more sense when you realize the right makes shit up
>>221025614>trump lost in court over 50 times on election fraud cases winning only 1 on a minor inconsequential procedural error>fox news and newsmax had to settle billion dollar lawsuits for defamation to poll workers based on trumps statements>most voter fraud cases are people trying to prove they can get away with it. >these false claims ruined the lives of rudy guilliani and the my pillow guyMAGA will lie about anything and everything.
>those late ballot overwhelming favorite Democrat and left because they vote early!>How does this explain why Karen Bass receives more or less the same level of vote ratio but third Ramen keep getting bigger and higher vote % with ever new batch of ballots?>>those late ballot overwhelming favorite Democrat and left because they vote early!I forgot who did this somebody from UK actually did some statistical analysis of US electionsThe thing he found out is that US elections constantly breaking statistical norms and only ever break for democrats never independent or GOP
>>221025781It’s fucking ridiculous. You remember when that dude conclusively proved that Lindell’s “evidence” was straight-up bullshit?
>>221025509>every time my side loses it’s fraud>every time I win it’s a legitimate election with no fraud>no, it is completely consistent and logical that when my guys are in power that the opposition magically can fix local and federal elections results nationwide without anyone able to prove it>also when I keep crying that everything is rigged against me but then I somehow end up winning that just means I stopped the rigging magically but can’t do it any time my guys end up losing in future elections
>>221025806People learn the hard way what a cancer trump is.
>>221024787>CaliforniansOk buddy
>>221024592Pol has been invaded by communists that hate Israel so the Nazis are playing along
>>221024569why do american retards make up bizarre fanfiction as cope for voting an utterly incompetent pedo into office? so cringe
>>221025543they thought they were safe when they were in power so they were lax
>A Republican being unpopular in Los Angeles is a conspiracyMaybe people just don't like you
>>221025806Here’s the doc of Lindell’s own panel calling him a bullshit artist. https://www.baileyglasser.com/media/news/15087_Reasoned%20Decision%20and%20Final%20Award.pdf
>>221025872What? LA and California are run by incompetent pedo?No wonder they cheat in election and the state and the city are shit
>>221025890Browns, communists and brown communists aren’t people
Anyone that is incapable of acknowledging that not requiring an ID and not requiring a person be on site to cast a vote leaves the system open to easy fraudulent cast ballots is a disingenuous faggot whose opinions on any subject can be immediately disregarded. The system has obfuscated the trail of evidence that would be required to prove fraud occurred, then claims because there's no documentation of who actually cast the vote that fraud cannot be proven.
>>221025965>The system has obfuscated the trail of evidenceExcuses, excuses
>>221025907california is the only well run state in your 3rd world country lmao. what the fuck are you on about you maga mongaloid
>>221025939most christcucks are brown btw christcuck
>conceded in election night>Won after a week Christmas miracle comes early!
>>221024276Why did they decide to have an interview in a farmhouse
>>221024992>>221025455
>>221025977Not even Californians believe that California is well run, they just hate le orange man so much that they refuse to ever consider voting anything but straight D.
>>221026064>Not even Californians believe that California is well run, they just hate [something demonstrably worse]How's the war going, peace in two weeks?
>>221025717Id rather be a tranny than one of the remaining MAGA supporters, xir seems a lot less delusional than le trust the plan!
Voter fraud is a huge problem in America. This is why a senile pedophile with a fake tan won the election twice. It's all rigged.
>>221026087Personally, I hope the war goes on for years and Europoor and turd world economies get gutted since they made retarded decisions about their energy policies.
>>221026142The only horrible decision Europe made was expecting US to never chimp out on the behest of its kike pedo rulers.
>>221026142what a resentful little goblin
>>221026171>hehe, Russian gas, that seems like a good idea!>drilling for oil in the North Sea? We would never, that harms the planet!>nuclear energy? Let's stop that, it's dangerous!
>>221025965Yeah it’s so easy to falsify ballots when you need to know whether or not the person ie registered, you need to steal their ballot and fill it yourself, you need to be able to falsify their signatures and be sure it’s an exact match to the one in file. Let alone do it on a scale where that process has to be done thousands, if not millions of times. And then you have to hope none of the people go vote in person. God it’s so easy!
>Browns think there is something wrong with this
>>221026231Kek. Good summation. What you’re pointing out, consciously or mot, is the end result of our decaying education system. These retards don’t understand the system any better than they understand basic math. And that’s precisely how their masters want it. Unfortunately, it also makes them easy prey for outside provocateurs to undermine their trust in the very foundations of the systems they unknowingly rely on. That being said, I want someone to actually give voice to the more subtle “rigging” that having a significant portion of your country’s population here illegally makes possible. It’s not at the ballot box, but rather in the House of Representatives. Seats in the House are allocated based on the census, and the census doesn’t care whether you’re a voting citizen or not. When areas are allowed to turn a blind eye to the immigration status of their constituents, to serve as “sanctuaries,” it skews the allocation of seats. It’s equally unfair to citizens and non-citizens alike, for the former in terms of elections, for the latter in terms of having no voice in government. In short, we need an actual fix for the immigration/naturalization issues we have instead of both sides using it against the other.
>>221026231yeah I'm sure they're checking to make sure the signature "matches the one on file" you people are a joke
>>221026372Nta, but you should thank God Almighty we no longer have polling tests, because you’re clearly too stupid to pass one.
>>221026370Why do you care about illegals being here? They make the country better. Over half of our agriculture labor force is immigrants, stop being racist
>>221026386Jokes on you, I've never voted and never will. Voting will not fix the rot. Voting wont make 30 million illegals dissapear or the welfare leeches dissapear. They'll only grow in number while people like me get fucked (people who actually work)
>they're falsifying ballots!>how? >they just are ok!How do you people keep saying random shit and trying to sell it as true?
>>221026388I have a problem with them being de facto second-class “citizens,” mainly. It’s practically slave labor. For a country founded on principles like “All men are created equal,” it doesn’t sit well with me that it’s so difficult, timely, and expensive just to become “legal.” “They’re not sending their best,” he says, but regardless of whether that’s true, they're definitely sending people that help keep our produce cheap while getting shit on by people who’ve never done an honest day’s work in their lives.
>muh stolen electionsir... that didn't happen>yes it didthere's no evidence that happened>yes it did, just look.sir, there's no evidence that happened>you're stupid. I'm donebravo Vince
>>221026443>The graph looks wrong, that's all the proof I need
>>221026420>jokes on youThe irony is palpable.
>>221026044how does Australia hate jews 3x more than the US? what's going on with that?
>>221026481i know you're so smart anon I'm sure the next democrat president will fix the country and not just bow down to israel like every president before them
>>221026500I’m a Republican.
>Ivans ITT running damage control for the octogenarian having a meltyLmao the mental gymnastics get crazier every day
It always comes full circle with MAGA
>>221026499Sydney and Melbourne are overrun by Muslims
>>221026510enjoy your AIPAC funded politicians
>>221026520He shit his pants again. Literally. They got to stop putting him in front of cameras live. Actually watch it. It’s the 3rd time in 6 months. You can see her smell it
>>221026534Muslims and Nazis and Communists
>>221026551>He shit his pants again. Literally.he's stealing my valor.
>>221026594Trump shit his pants. He pulls his coat close and kind of shifts around, then slowly gets up awkward and kind of stays huddled over. He shit his pants. Again.
>>221026550The best part is that I’ve never voted a straight ticket in my life.
>>221025748It makes more sense when you realize they don't
Lmao, the interview was so fucking softball and Trump still couldn't handle it. Like how are you not at this stage prepared to take questions on your illegal slush fund or bogus claims of interference? If Trump can['t handle fucking Kristin Welkin tossing layups to him for 40 minutes, how is he going to handle negotiations with Xi or Putin or Bibi? The answer is he's not, which is why the foreign shills are desperate to keep him in power.
>>221026612Watch the end with head phones. He shit his pants again. Then he does this thing with his coat and starts kind of shifting to hide it, she has this weird look and smells it, he gets up all hunched over and kind of keeps her away and he stays hunched so it doesn’t go down his pants He shit his pants again.
>>221024276>Trump easily owned this mutt bitchWhy is he so great?
Massey getting blown out in his Kentucky district by a noname retard despite having 6 gorillion likes on every tweet shows you how inorganic everything is on the brownoid inhabited internet. Sadly for Thomas, pakistanis can't vote in Kentucky.
>>221026643See >>221025614. If four days to certify election results is unacceptable to you, then what’s six months to make a single announcement of fraud found in an election certified 6 years ago?
>>221026664Hey now, begging on Truth Social is an expert negotiating tactic
>>221026666were you watching an old Biden vid?
>>221026463You're responding to a troll post, I hope you realize.
>>221026751I’m just enjoying my anger.
>>221024666Looks French
Even if you accept that election fraud doesn't happen, and it's maybe even hard to commit on a mass scale, I don't see that as reason to still not have voter IDs.If India can put it into practice, then it just screams incompetence of the US.
>>221026710When is Massey going to read off the pedo names? Two more weeks?
>>221024992>>221024592/pol/ is a low IQ communist board nowthey're so braindeadOn economics is a far left board now.
>>221025991why do leftists cheer for their own destruction
>>221026782Yeah agreed. Nothing wrong with voter IDs. It would make things a lot easier if everyone had a standard ID on them.
>>221024787>>221025614Even if Fraud is found, it's extremely difficult to overturn an election once its certified. And once enough time has passed, It's impossible to realistically undo the results. 6 years is too long ago to anything meaningful. That's why it's important to stop fraud as it's happening and before the election is certified. You gotta act fast.
>>221026782If you actually gave a shit about vote fraud you wouldn't be using electronic voting machines.
>>221026864They’re soulless demons, literal golems lol
>>221024569This really made the tranny kikes seethe.
>>221026617Ok?wtf does that have to do with me?
>>221026728Trump shit his pants and couldn’t even storm off right
>>221024592How's Rafah doing?
>>221026231>when you need to know whether or not the person ie registered, All you need is an address and a name. registration doesnt mean what you think it means >you need to steal their ballot You can just print multiple ballots. You can see the video where they tracked down 26 registered names to an empty lot. >and fill it yourselfThis is easy.>you need to be able to falsify their signatures.This depends if they have the signature on file (sometimes they don't). And if they actually enforce strict signature analysis. The ballot counter could literally say "eh good enough" and certify the ballot. Yes that's how it works.
>>221026782Voter ID's are a good concept if they are provided easily and cheaply without discrimination to all US citizens the problem is that the US is socially and politically incapable of having a system like that due to their bi-partisan hellhole of a system that rewards bending the law more than following itIn practice a voter ID system would be abused because the US is the world's largest banana republic, it would be made expensive to get one, annoying to get one, they'd probably do a thing where it had to be renewed a month before elections happen so people working 3 jobs don't have time to do it all as a way to disenfranchise peopleand then the opposite side would strike back with heavy subsidies to give free ID's to poorest people and move ID dropoff points to ghettos while making it even more expensive for (upper-) middle classThis would thing would turn into yet another gerrymandering-esque battleground of sheer hypocrisy because the US is not a serious place
>>221026087The war that’s making everyone hate Israel?You think this is bad?I see you lack critical thinking
Funny how the same libtards that say>"Trump refusing to release the Epstein files when asked PROVES that there's something incriminating in there he doesn't want anyone to see!!!"Turn around and immediately ssy>"California has every right not to allow anyone to audit their elections it doesn't mean anything suspicious is happening!"
>>221026975I stopped thinking the government should have any of this information from photos of people to DNA to finger prints I have no seen the country get safer at all. It just seems like a way to keep the rich rich Police are the only force that can keep the country safe. That’s it. Actual people not some fucking system. Spend more on the police and fuck 1984.
>>221026965>why does the left fantasize and talk about shit all the time?
>>221026664Of course. there's proof. But CNN, ABC, CBS, and NBC and all the rest will just Keep saying that there isn't... and once they can't do that, they' shift to saying it hasn't been proven in court, and once that happens, they'll swap to calling the courts biased unfair, and finally swap to saying that, really they HAD to cheat because the far Right has made things SO unfair for them!
>>221026975> Voter ID's are a good concept if they are provided easily and cheaply without discrimination to all US citizensDamn, I didn’t realise there were so many racists that think black people are too dumb to get ID, is this how the left operates?
>>221026997Have they said they won't allow any auditing? or have they said they won't allow Trump to take over and redo the elections hims?Because Trump is actively demanding the latter and nobody in their right mind lets the most corrupt president in US history anywhere close to a state election
>>221027005Not seen*I don’t see it. Pay the police double. The money would be better spent then some new id shit like real id
>>221026969Then the fraud should be easy to prove, shouldn't it? Because the number of ballots mailed/distributed/counted would radically outnumber the totals on the voter rolls - radically. I’ll wait patiently for the proof. I’m sure it’s coming any day now.
>>221027014So why doesn't he just present his evidence on Fox News?What does he have to lose by not doing that?
>>221026975Sorry anon but you've lost me. I traveled all across the world and Voter ID is used across so many countries. Even countries with unstable governments. Your reasoning doesn't pass the sniff test. If other unstable countries can do voter ID, then so can the USA. Even if there are some minor inconveniences.
>>221025872>Look everyone, I said the thing! Pedo! Pedo! Haha! Am I cool now? Go the fuck back to bluesky, troon.
>>221027040Nta But no. Won’t work. Just pay the police more. Nothing else will work. Don’t pay the system pay the people. And no. No more ids. If you got one that works.
>>221027016Look up the exams black people were forced to do to gain voting right's in the 1800's if you want an example of how the current right would try to screw over minoritiesHell red states already intentionally move voting points away from minority communities forcing them to travel much further, and since election day isn't on a weekend or holiday people with jobs can and will get screwed over for thisSeriously, why is election day not a national holiday?
>>221027037I’ll go one further - why isn’t he arresting anyone if his evidence is such hot shit?
>>221026782If it’s not free, it's an effectively a poll tax which is unconstitutional. >It's just a trifling amount!If you think the Constitution needs to be violated over a few bucks, then you have no interest in the rest of it or any other foundation to a republic. Also, Republicans have built exactly zero good faith that they would make acquiring such IDs a fair and equitable process. As evidenced by this administration eliminating passport services from libraries last year.(It's like it isn’t actually about election security or something)
>>221027068>Seriously, why is election day not a national holiday?Fucking A.
>>221026975Jesus Christ, you are definitely a fifteen y.o. redditor. You say all the bs lines with such certainty. Kill yourself, troon.
>>221027040there are plenty things other countries can do the US fails atlike say, not allowing billionaires and foreign nations to outright buy elections (RIP Massie) or by allowing more than 2 political parties functionally Or you know the fact that gerrymandering is an utterly insane concept that's unique to the US and the US alone and is the biggest symptom imaginable of an underlying culture of subverting any and all election processes in favor of the ruling party The simple fact is, if the US can't handle redistricting without third-world levels of corruption, it can't handle voter ID without doing the same
>>221027068So black people cant drive?Why doesn’t the left go around wearing white pointed hats anymore with these backwards opinions
>>221027105here's your election tourist trying to fit in people, do you even know who Moot is?
>>221027068>Look up the exams black people were forced to doNo, faggot. Go the fuck back.
>>221027105Show me in the constitution where the government needs a picture of me to vote. People voted before photographs. Don’t invent shit. Pay the police more. There you go.
>>221027115it's an extra inconvenience that exists for no other reason than to discourage black people from votingthat said I'll be generous to you, what is the reasonable and local reason for Red states to have a decreased (per-capita) number of voting locations in black neighborhoods vs white neighborhoods
>>221027124You're not even American. Shut your gaping, infected hole.
>>221027155Show me in the constitution where the government needs a picture of me to vote. People voted before photographs. Democracy was invented after photographs.Don’t invent shit. Pay the police more. There you go.
>>221027147> discourage black people from votingYou still haven’t explained why you think black people don’t have IDSo far you’ve just repeated party talking points so they can allow illegal aliens to vote for them
If theres so much evidence of voter fraud why not release it? Seems counter productive to keep that to yourself.
>>221027182Show me in the constitution where the government needs a picture of me to vote. People voted before photographs. Democracy was invented after photographs.Don’t invent shit. Pay the police more. There you go.
>>221027031>Then the fraud should be easy to prove, shouldn't it? Because the number of ballots mailed/distributed/counted would radically outnumber the totals on the voter rolls - radically. I’ll wait patiently for the proof. I’m sure it’s coming any day now.The argument isn’t always that there are "extra ballots". It’s that the ballots themselves may not represent legitimate real voters. So pointing only to total ballot counts versus registration numbers wouldn’t automatically disprove fraud. For example:1. inactive registrations (e.g. someome moved out of state but their name is kept active in the system)2. duplicate registrations3. harvested ballots4. forged signatures 5. or insider control over counting (telling counters to not question signatures)Then the vote totals could still match the registered voter rolls on paper. The only way to counter this deep level of fraud and vulnerability is with Voter ID, limiting mail in ballots, and requiring vote counting to be done within 24 hours. These 3 things eliminate any potential room for abuse.
>>221027162>Democracy was invented after photographs.Speaking of original democracy, when people were smart (back in the day in Attic Greece) they knew elections are inherently undemocratic.
>>221027162>Show me in the constitutionthis doesn't mean what you think it means
>>221027206Have you tried being less moronicDo you somehow think identification wasn’t used when voting back then?
>>221027182I'm saying that certain states would make voting ID's expensive to get essentially using a backhanded way to reintroduce poll taxes which would dis proportionally hit lower income communities harder which is not even a hypothetical, because as I pointed out there's already measures in place to hit those communities and try to discourage them from voting
>>221027203>why not release it?I'm gonna play the devil's advocate here. If you don't release it you keep them wondering what you have on them and they can't steal as much.
>>221027212>>221027221I have seen most sections of the government twisted and bent judicial, executive, bureaucratic, congress, Except the Police. That’s the solution. Pay them more. Not this 1984 shit. They are the only thing holding it all together now.
>>221027239>my fantasy means that people would be unable to drive or open a bank account based on skin colorWhy are you people so racist
>>221027208if such a deep level of fraud existed at any appreciable level then it would be impossible to keep this a secret in a state as large as California and there actually would be concrete proof alreadyHowever sofar the only real proof of voter fraud that's come out has been, in a fit of irony, from red states with multiple videos of ballot boxes being manipulated and outright stole and replaced in those states
>>221027124>>221027162>>221027206The Constitution doesn’t work like that, especially when it comes to states. It’s not built around what a government can do with your rights but rather what it can't. It’s explicit you can't prevent voting based on being less than 18, sex, color or with a poll tax. There's technically nothing stopping a photo requirement or that your name can't be Taylor. I still wouldn’t advocate for requiring an ID given Republican perfidy in being fair about it, but you’ve got a bad argument.
you right wingers are fucking losers, you rat bastards accuse others of cheating when you fucking losers cannot win anything without having to rig maps or spread lies about your opponents or whatever the fuck else, fuck your orange cunt president, bitch loser cries so fucking much, fuck off, fucking traitors, evil cunts
>>221027245Ironclad logic. Jesus wept.
>>221027245the problem is that Trump has been actively saying that there has never been any bigger fraud ever before in the united state, never everso even that devil's advocate argument doesn't work
>>221027203>If theres so much evidence of voter fraud why not release itIf there's no voter fraud, why fight voter id? Everyone wins with voter id. Are you afraid that blacks won't vote if they have to get an id?
>>221027017>Have they said they won't allow any auditing?Yes. Although a higher court COULD step in and force California to legally comply. We're still in the "wait and see" phase. California has to finish counting.If enough attention is drawn to this issue, then the courts sometimes are willing to step in. The courts historically do not like when the public seriously questions the legitimacy of the system itself. This is probably the first time in history where the nation is paying attention to a local election with most of social media discussing it. *IF* there is fraud going on, then California may not be able to get away with it like in the past. There are simply too many eyeballs. Or if they do get away with any potential fraud, they may unintentionally cause a situation where support for the Save Act surges. Everyone will point to California as the reason Voter ID needs to be passed
>>221027289But you know that's how Trump would think.
>>221027273Now you are just inventing shit using the elastic clause and I don’t buy into that 1984 shit People voted before ids and they can vote without them. You want to stop “fraud” pay the police more. Don’t invent shit.
>>221026975Requiring an ID doesn't seem to stop anyone from buying alcohol, and there is no movement to demand that alcohol purchases be ID-free.
>>221027285Awful lot of projection going on here
>>221027265See >>221027078. If you don’t care that the Constitution is being violated because it's just an itty bitty price (which it won’t be), then you have no argument within the framework of our democracy whatsoever. I don’t even think about minorities when it comes to that particular aspect.
>>221027285I especially like the way this cycle republicans rushed to redraw maps after early voting had begun. It couldn’t be more obvious reason why you shouldn’t be able to just suddenly redraw voting maps but republicans just did it anyway and publicly kept saying it’s not a big deal you’re changing where people are allowed to vote in the middle of election simply because right wing SCOTUS decided to allow racist gerrymandering again to help republicans in red states disfranchise black people
>>221027306Are you going to issue and freely distribute voter IDs to everyone with easy access?
>>221024569The part that boggles the mind is that Pratt was probably already going to loose in the general election. He was only at 1/3 of the vote, and the other dem voters weren't going to suddenly switch to the republican just because their first choice lost.They're running this insane fraud SOLELY so that they can freeze him out of the general election. Because just the idea thatsomeone might challenge them is a grave offense
>>221027375>It’s fraud!>Do you have actual proof instead of just social media conspiracy theories?>N-no?
>>221027273NTA but the constitution and the founding fathers are faggots. Sortition = democracy. Elections = oligarchy. The founding fathers "discussed" it and chose elections because a system based on elections naturally favored people like them.
>>221027313There isn’t a constitutional amendment forbidding having to pay the government first in order to buy alcohol unlike voting.
>>221027071>I’ll go one further - why isn’t he arresting anyone if his evidence is such hot shit?Legally? Because the Courts require more than just evidence of fraud. They require several things to move forward. The requirements are EXTREMELY high. The courts require the following:1. Direct evidence of fraud. 2. Direct unbroken chain of evidence linking to the people responsible who authorized the fraud.3. Direct evidence of how this affected the election results.4. Witnesses of the fraud willing to testify1 and 3 are possible. But 2 and 4 are nearly impossible. Especially finding witnesses willing to testify.The requirements for the courts are so high.... that it's easier to just to pass new Federal Laws (like Voter ID) to patch any vulnerabilities in the system.
>>221027337I’m sorry anon but you are just racist, you just think they are lesser people incapable of doing anything and I’m not about that
>>221027285>rig maps or spread lies about your opponents or whatever the fuck else,lol. You're obviously crashing out. Take a media timeout, have a dilation sesh, go play furries with, well, whoever you do that with. It'll be ok. Trump can't get you. Some lefty fag will be president next time and you can stop bitching.
>>221027308that said there's also another outcome and one that is frankly even more realisticthat the auditing will itself be rife with fraud, more fraud than present in the electionDOGE proves that the current federal administration is willing to actively weaponize fraud against it's own institutions to undermine them at the behest of third-parties and the sitting President has an active disdain for rule of law if it opposes him (count number of illegal actions taken by the president vs the governor of California since January 2025) The auditing process should be handled by actual third parties, preferably with foreign observers
>>221027375If there's anyone the Democrat machinery would rather freeze out in a general election, it would be the progressives. Pratt as the runoff opponent would be a slam dunk for Bass, now she actually has to campaign. Just look at NYC's last election for fuck's sake.
>it's fraud!>everything is fraud!You know fraud isn't magic right?
>>221024768It’s amazing how you can believe in things like decolonization, white supremacy, transgender identities and crystal healing but think institutional corruption is schizo.
>>221027437Trump pardoned another fraudster Republican this weekend btw
>>221027285Hey, anon, I heard you liked Trump so here's a nice picture of him to dry up your tears
>>221024658Good news, Trump carved out a huge exception for agriculture and hospitality workers, plus loads of exceptions for Indian engineers and IT workers, so you're getting them whether you like it or not!
>>221027455Democrats are frauds. Republicans are frauds. A presidential campaign costs 1 billion dollars. There is no democracy.
>>221027271The issue is not that fraud exists. Its the evidence requirements necessary for the courts to act. Proving fraud is not enough in the eyes of the court. You need MULTIPLE things for the courts to act. See >>221027416Sometimes its impossible. So passing new laws like Voter ID is the only way to prevent this
how do miggers cope with the fact that trump owns every branch of government yet nobody has been punished for the supposed election fraud in 2020?
>>221027473Now you know what it’s like I guessIt’s crazy how blind to this sort of shit you people are until it’s someone you hate
>>221027394The evidence is just looking at the numbers with your eyes. Nearly every mail in ballot being counted is going to the jeet who has already conceded the race, because she is the only one that they need to push to knock Prat out. Even if you say that mail in voters always skew democratic, why is it just that one democratic? Where are all the mail in ballots for the commie karen?
>>221027525Be careful what you wish for, you’re only halfway anon
>>221027500I will agree it's not perfect.>Indian engineers and IT workersIndians now need to pay $100K to get an H1B visa. It's no longer cheap or free. Have you seen the Indian and H1B subreddits? They are complaining their dream of immigrating is dead. That 100K is so high. Most are discussing immigrating to Canada, China, or possibly Europe instead. They are also complaining about AI taking their jobs.
we don't how many ballots still left because we mailed ballots to everyone and if you shown up at the voting booth they would give you a ballot too>But they will tossed out your earlier casted ballot in you voted in person!You really believe they would take the time to find that one supposed duplicate ballots?California election at this point in time would never know what is the total ballots (# of vote casted+ voted not casted) because they intensionally diluted the number and it would be next to impossible to prove fraud just by recount- they don't even have a correct number supposed to act as benchmark. The only way to prove any of the fuckery would be actual third party audit from the ballot to the actual mailing package. And it sure as hell California won't do it no matter what and SCOTUS has cowed before when dealing inter state election circus show via 2020.
>>221027525Because they are all friends doing play pretend for the public.
>>221027525Hey couldn’t find fraud in 2016 election either despite crying about it for years and forming an entire commission to just prove that Hillary didn’t win the popular vote
>>221027525It's because the majority of Americans are descended from angloid cattle who love worshipping a fat rich degenerated
>>221027558>I don’t understand how elections and counting process worksYes dear, we know
>>221027582That is part of the process. That is how they find and prosecute those handful of actual voter fraud cases where someone tries to vote twice
>>221024666Short stack mullata Seriously she was a smoke show
>>221024276Kwab. She short circuited.
>>221027531I'm never blind, I venomously hate all politicians
>>221027306If theres no voter fraud why do we need voter id?
>>221024768isn't it incredibly coincidental that every time the ballots take forever to count, they always favor people from one specific party? Every single time? What a crazy co-inky-dink.
>>221024276>T-Money still works every social media site, even 4chan, into a frothing quivering seethe
>>221027684Your findom fetish is never going to become normalized.
>>221027673Faith Kates is starting to spill the beans It’s just a distraction
>>221027572Good. Go to Canada. China won't take them. That's hilarious.
I'm taking sides in this political debate. But if there is going on in California, then they must be monumentally stupid or arrogant to try it with so many people paying attention to their elections. They are making it too obvious to everyone watching that things aren't clean. Come on California. If you are going to commit fraud, then at least be more sneaky about it. This is just so lazy and obvious.
>>221027500Yeah that's still not infinity illegals and an open border, you stupid fucking faggot.
They’ll probably pay faith Kates off. They need to. She links trump and Epstein up at parties with underaged
>>221027666Better safe than sorry.
>>221027510sure voter ID is the way but I would also want any voter ID law to come with a stipulation that the total cost to acquire a voter ID cannot exceed 1 (symbolic) dollar and the process to acquire a voter ID cannot exceed more than a day's length in time, including the travel time of the ID recipient to the dropoff point
>>221027531Exactly what kind of shoe do you think is finally on the other foot? Don’t tell me you’ve built up an entire pay-to-play pardon regime under Biden in your mind. Don't tell me having a drug problem is on the same moral scale as bilking millions, billions out of Americans. Don’t tell me Democrats have a particular affinity for fraud when they put people away awhile Trump lets them out. Please don't and save your last brain cell from any more gymnastics.
>>221027723>China won't take them.China has their own version of H1B they are promoting. But Indians will be treated worse than second class citizens in China. Barely above slave labor. China doesn't care.
>>221027673So consistency in how vote counting works is suspicious because errr it just is! If my guy had not won fairly the results would have been instantaneous!
Is there a jeet raid or something?
If the election was stolen then why can't the Epstein/Trump regime prove it? It would be a federal crime so there's nothing preventing them holding an investigation any time and showing the world the evidence.The reason they don't is it's a lie, it's why Trump's legal team never even argued 'fraud' in court, they spent a lot of time talking about fraud on social media though.
You know it is very interesting to seeing all those people complaining about California election being labeled as brownsAs if third world nation elections were perfectly clean and never see any act of election frauds that they can't recognize it when they seeing the same shits happening in California. When 2020 happened, while trump was still up in all the battle states but the vote counts all stalled for no reason, my friend from Taiwan literally said trump is going to lose because same voting situation happened in Taiwan before back in the 80's when voting procedures were not as scrutinized. The stall is buying time to cook the book to cheat the election.
>>221027437>The auditing process should be handled by actual third parties, preferably with foreign observersIt's funny because California used to have third parties for things like this and also things like redistricting. There used to be a good and non biased way of handling it. But California slowly banned them or got rid them.
>>221027763>he thinks corruption started with BidenLol, how about you call out your own next time
>>221027803>If the election was stolen then why can't the Epstein/Trump regime prove it? It would be a federal crime so there's nothing preventing them holding an investigation any time See >>221027416 for your answer.Good luck finding witnesses.
>>221027763total corruption by Trump exceeds 30 billion dollar at this point by the waynot the Trump administration, Donald Trump the private individual even at the most conservative estimates this puts him in personal corruption ahead of everyone since Nixon combined
>>221027604if you look at every single election that has taken place in america this is an extreme outlier for not being done counting on election night
>>221027869there is no entity that tracks "corruption dollars"
>>221027795Faith Kates is talking about the Epstein trump connection and they haven’t paid her off yet. She could put them together at parties with underage girls for years. Another agent is also being questioned in France about it It’s a distraction
>>221027895California really pushed things too far with being able to have 30 days to count ballots. Cheating needs to be done quietly. Don't make it so obvious.
>>221027934There are dozens. Don’t ask. Look it up
>>221027934no but there is counting things up like his various crypto scams, the foreign gifts he accepted as private person rather than president, pardons given after donations to him or organizations affiliated with him and the whole peace board thing where he took 10 billion dollar from the US treasury and inserted it into an organization where he, as a private citizen, is the leader and sole administrator of with no governmental oversight
>>221027978Don’t forget all Venezuela's oil money now going to Qatar, the same country that gave him the luxury jet, for "safekeeping"
it's amusing how the world's prime exporter of democracy has the same security measures to safeguard its democratic process a banana republic does and American liberals are even proud of it lol.
>>221028019frankly taking money from a foreign agent should get you a lifetime ban from politicsalso nobody in any government capacity should be allowed to have a dual nationality or proven ties to a foreign government
>>221028028The idea is you get foreigners trying to interfere and debate about itThat way they know about it and the seeds are planted So you have a shit ton of people trying to fuck it up but actually are useful idiots spreading the idea of democracy. The interference principle works both ways. Hundreds of millions now know our constitution. You get the game now. Actual Americans then take the good ideas, while the foreigners keep learning about democracy to try to larp. Eventually they see our system sucks but it’s better than their fascist bullshit over decades and we break them. Over and over again for 250 years it’s been the same game. All we have to do is let foreigners learn about the system and debate us. All those foreign trolls have the seeds of a democratic revolution in their heads.That’s the hustle. You learn about democracy and you spread it like a virus. Steel sharpens steel in America. Even trump just bulldozes foreign leaders because what they are selling is shit with the way they rule. Can’t polish a turd. That’s what xi and Putin are. Salesmen trying to sell turds wrapped in gold Their countries never will catch up ever because they keep wasting money in turds
>>221024276Ugly brown cunt
>>221028345perfect pairing for the senile orange cunt
he's had 5 years to come up with something better than taking his football home. fucking loser lmao
>>221024276>they're still doing the "mail in vote" thinggrim
>>221024817>Watching the world collapse is kinoYou're only saying that because you live a protected life where other people hold their hands under you. If you had any serious responsibility in your life (which you should as an adult) you'd not be saying something as dumb as that. But you're safe to watch the "spectacle" from your parents' basement where they coddle you even though you're a burden.Fucking pathetic.
Socialism is a religious cult.
>>221026231>need to know whether or not the person ie registeredThese are public record. There are multiple websites that allow you to enter information about a person to check their voter registration status.>you need to steal their ballot and fill it yourselfAddresses are public record and a vast majority of mail boxes are not secured in any way. The basic lock required by the USPS for apartment boxes can be picked in under 2 seconds with very little effort.https://youtu.be/KUau7vVa5pQ?si=bqcbr_y8KB42fqqD>you need to be able to falsify their signaturesWrong. You can sign that shit however you want. They don't even validate it.Also you don't even need to do any of the above steps. If you know the format you can print a mass number of ballots, fill them out, and mail them out yourself without having to steal anything. You can get the names and addresses of registered voters online and forge the entire thing without the real person even knowing that there was a vote case in their name.
>>221028137war manual from WWI listed democracy as mob rule and a threat to the american republic
>>221027964>>221027978there is no organization that can prove "corruption dollars"if you think there is, look into the funding of those organizations, and you will find corruption
failure from the jump
>>221027572Companies paying 100k for a slave that can't leave their company is a a better ROI than hiring you is.
>>221028137
>>22102888925 percent of all mexicans live in americas borders and 75 percent of them are on some form of government assistance, paid for by the taxpayer
>>221028891>saars you timmy not good slave saar!
>>221028926trump should fix that when he becomes president
>>221028954he now holds the record for lowest net migration so what the fuck were the other presidents even doing, its like they WANTED to flood the country....
Go away rightoids
>>221024276>Drumpf spends four years whining about how the 2020 election was "stolen" and that he should've won>in 8 months since reelection there hasn't been a single indictment of anyone for voter fraud despite claiming there is a mountain of evidence and having the entire DOJ at his disposalAnyone who voted for this retard is also retarded.
was the barn owned by china?
>>221029049They knew it was a lie all along. It's just about ego. If you ever thought they were sincere you don't understand the cult's psychology. Once he's dead every Republican will be saying they believed differently all along.
>>221029049Several anons already told you its impossible to undo the election from 6 years ago. They might be able to secretly arrest people, but it's been 6 years and the evidence has likely been destroyed. Trump losing was probably for the best because it made him tougher and harder. He doesn't mess around anymore believing the Democrats will make a deal with him. Trump came back focused with a team that supports him.
>there was no election fraud in 2020!!!>okay so let us take a look>NO!!!!!
>>221029198why do you think no one took a look?
>>221029210They were scared.
>>221029184the best part about the democrats "securing" the 2020 election is how they spent the next four years getting absolutely fuck all done, except squabbling amongst themselveswhat was even the point?
>>221029257i'd like to get back to getting fuck all done, please
>>221027763>Literal whataboutismShamefur dispray
Yeah I smacked his ass. So what. He liked it. I called him my bitch. He blushed. I slapped him. Make those cheeks molten lava red. He says I love you. Not me. I don't acknowledge him. I call him it. It smells. Smells like my odor. I grab a deo. Make him eat it. Donny likes white sticks in his mouth. Nicely coated. I go in for the grand finale. The screen goes black. Greatest story ever told about tv and movies. 6 hour standing ovation. Thank you. Tv and Movies.
>>221029296At least you admit you're a shill for the status quo. Can you understand why people would tell you to fuck off though? Especially those that have been suffering and don't care what your privileged neet nepo baby ass thinks about "my oppression"?
>>221029318>i will post this pretending trump doesn't whatabout biden and obama daily>later i will post a screenshot about how democrats pretend the don't understand things
How these discussions go.>We suspect voter fraudThat's impossible!>Then let us review the ballots to ensure it didn't happenNo. You cannot, and now that you asked I just placed a call to destory everything before you can legally obtain it.>Then lets change the rules so we can ensure there's less risk of fraudNo, you cannot. That's racist to ask for id!>Okay so we still suspect voter fraudThat's impossible, you can't even prove it!
>>221029338they aren't suffering anymore. trump fixed it
Everyone in this thread should be required to say the country they are posting from.
He wasn't angry we was late for a flight to China to oversee the production of his American made shitroid phone that at one point was a gold iphone.Guy's busy.
>>221025483Right wingers are that dumb
>>221029364They did review it and found no fraud. Are you a bot or retarded? Also bush stole the 2000 election and you aren’t talking about it.
>>221029354>later i will post a screenshot about how democrats pretend the don't understand thingsYou do though. You're doing it again right now.
>>221029481>It's never fraud when we do it>It's always fraud when you do itCan you just go live in Londonistan or something? I'm sure you'd like it a lot better there.
>>221029487>vagueposting
>>221029510>Also incapable of reading Nothing vague about my post if you have two brain cells to rub together. Fuck of back to where you came from.
>>221029396Yeah! I can't do ad hominems otherwise
Trump lost me when he started photoshopping his hands to be twice as big on presidential portraits inside the Whitehouse. How can any of you defend that?
>>221029531>It's not useful to know if the person debating you about how voting should work in your country actually lives in your countryYou just outed yourself as a poojeet. Kill yourself.
I get the feeling most of the posters in this thread aren't American. They just post some troll comments, have poor grammar, and then refuse to actually respond to legitimate comments that explain their complaints. I'm guessing India or China users. Why can't you stay on your own Internet?
>>221029547>Trump lost me when->Fanfiction Everytime. You voted for Hillary, then Biden, then Kamala. You never voted for Trump. Stop trying to pretend otherwise.
>>221029531Twilight of the Pakistani Rage Farmer
>>221029601China doesn't really crosspost on our internet at all
>>221024569They do it because the jews on their side told them to. Just like the jews on the side of Trump told him to war Iran.>"I am the one in charge!"Lol
>>221026664He was always carried by an insane mentally handicapped cult excusing his every blunder and rape. It's just more apparent now.
>>221026719starting from scratch from a jurisdiction several clearances up (federal to state to county to voting district), with an initial investigation + follow ups, interviews, subpoenas, grand juries, and court hearings, that sounds fastI think that the average us trial time is 2 years so they're aheadmeanwhile California can't do what other states do in 1 day with more accuracy
wife of one of them is jewishwife of the other dude is also jewish
reminder this thread is either 1. foreigners2. people not at work (useless)3. people able to argue here while at work (ai will replace you, useless)
Why is he so fragile, bros? He just couldn’t handle it.
>>221029481t. Retard
>>221027394I know youre baiting but 99% of mail in ballots being for 1 candidate is hilariously corrupt you'd expect that from some third world shithole or dictatorship so I guess it makes sense for California
>>221029547How deep in the faggot bubble does one need to be in order to even know about that
>>221029703This is a brown thread, yes, but which category do you fall into
>>221029101the rain was (chinese weather control)
>>2210298532 but i have a trade i just like working in the heat
>>221029872don't like
>>221029802You mean the reality-TV retard isn't winning in LA? Must be RIGGED!!!
>>221029802maga.... suck fucking retards they believe anything
>>221029013socialism lost :)
mods?
>>221029941Then why do conservatives keep getting publicly owned?
>>221029826It was breaking news when it happened. Sorry for remembering.
>>221024666Mullata with an hourglass figure. Trump pooped his pants.
>>221029940glad you're here to enlighten us with twitter screenshots
>>221030004>VoteHub is an independent political news outlet offering innovative real-time election reporting, polling aggregations, and deep data driven analysis.you are free to attack themyou are free to offer higher quality info maga boy
>trump president>follow up election is fraudulent>biden president>follow up election is a-ok
>>221029980modern conservatives are just socialists at this pointonly Libertarians actually support free marketsanyway desu, socialists are basement dwelling incel losers who hate the working class and deserve to be drowned/skinned alive in public
>>221029943AnonWhose thread do think this is. They are trying to get people to say crazy and racist shit. If it’s race bait, political or pedo based it’s a mod “doing work”.Never respond being serious. It’s a honey pot. Int, pol, same shit, they don’t want to get actual jobs and are trying for blackmail or arrests or money for putting people on lists. Welcome to 4 Chan. Mods try to entrap you
The best thing about right-wingers becoming social pariahs is that it was entirely self-inflicted on their part
>>221030078Shut up pedophile
>>221030085>social pariahsare you projecting there just a bit hasan piker?gonna shock your dog again or proclaim support for north korea again?
>>221030111And that's why you're a pedophile?
>>221030105>pedophileI said I hate socialists though.Why do authoritarian socialist manchildren project all of the time?Socialists are open pedophileshttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_petitions_against_age-of-consent_lawsAlso mao and stalin were child rapists
>>221030125>socialist calling others pedophileslmao you people support people like stalin, beria and mao, all child rapistsLike who do you think you are fooling.You will never be a dictator or have sex.kys pedo
>>221030128>>221030143Right-wingers are deranged lunatics in a pedophile cult, lolAnd the best part is that they did this to themselves
>>221030162>Right-wingers are deranged lunatics in a pedophile cultYou say right wingers but you really mean miggers and natsoc manchildren.All of those people are socialists, that's why they are pedophiles, just like yourself.You will never be a dictator.You deserve a bullet in the head, commie.
>>221030128>On 26 January 1977 an open letter, written by Gabriel Matzneff[5] and signed by 69 peoplenice!
>>221030193>69 peopleall of the most prominent left wing intellectuals at the timepeople like Foucault, praised by modern leftistsfunny isnt it?
>>221030203i'm not educated enough on prominent french intellectuals from the mid 70s to find the humor
>leftists arguing in a nutshell
>>221024768>t. "THE RUSSIANS ARE REVIEWBOMBING MUH STAR WARS!!!"
>>221030278>miggers arguing in a nutshell
>>221030341probably had people scouting that area for weeks to make sure it was safe just for that
>>221030341Thanks for proving me correct.
>>221029257Biden wasted time trying to be bipartisan and get republicans to get anything passed. And turned out that yeah, republicans don’t want to work together in anything, especially to help the American people. Democrats love trying to be centrist, follow precedent and rules and offer fig leaves across the aisle. Republicans meanwhile just say fuck you, make up rules and then ignore when it suits them and just do tax cuts and massively increase military spending.
>>221030431Thanks for proving me correct.
>>221025543A lot of election laws were relaxed due to COVID, mainly restrictions on mail-in voting. Those laws were back in place for the 2024 election.Hmmm, maybe mail-in voting isn't robust against fraud? Hmmmm maybe Democrats took advantage of those relaxations in the 2020 election to cast millions of fraudulent votes. Hmmmm maybe Democrats weren't able to do that in 2024 because mail-in voting restrictions were back in place?I don't know, just a thought, my dear tranny.
>>221030183>You say right wingers but you really mean miggers and natsoc manchildren.No, I mean right-wingers, all of them, every flavor
>>221025781>lost in court over 50 timesThe judges refused to hear the cases without looking at any of the evidence. That's not losing in court. That's corruption.
>>221031002There wasn't any evidence. All of it was made up by Sidney Powell and Rudy Guiliani.
>>221026231>exact matchSignature just has to be 40% accurate. Maybe do some research troon.
>>221024780>if I throw in enough buzzwords my point is more correct
>>221026231>he doesn't know about the Wtiness signaturesBruh, you can literally have a 'witness' sign your mail-in ballot and nobody does anything to verify the witness signature. That's counted as a completely legal vote, and nobody even questions it and California doesn't track how many ballots have 'witness' signatures.
>>221030774Mail-in voting has historically benefited republicans more than democrats. It was only after Trump that suddenly you had to start mail-in voting and pretend it was rampant with fraud (which they can never prove).
>>221031099You didn't address a single one of my points. Thanks for the concession, tranny.
>>221031265Not him but everyone can tell you lost the argument by the way your tranny derangement syndrome kicked in.
>>221031503>Yeah I didn't address a single one of your points, but because you said tranny, I win.>Why do I win? Because I said so.Tranny logic.
