>the true villain was lonely menHow do you respond without sounding mad?
>>221025816https://youtu.be/0tLY3dmbXqo?t=372
>don't desire affection!!!
>>221025816just quote the text of the article here you pussy
>>221025816The fact that dumbasses are using this to continue their campaign against guys who are afraid to talk to girls doesn't change the fact that he is the problem in the narrative.>>221025832And you don't even get the title of the movie.
>>221025832imagine unironically defending bear's pussy actions (or rather inactions) lol
>>221025816Man i want to devour her feces so fucking bad.My willow wish would be to become her personal humanoid toilet where my sustainence is purely her fecal matter,piss,spit,sweat,vag smegma anything that is her bodily waste.I want her to force fed me her feces and make me her her personal dumpslut.
>>221025816
>>221025816>I didn’t see the movie
>>221025835>The film portrays Bear as a weak and pathetic man from the very beginning. He doesn’t have the courage to ask Nikki out, even when Nikki directly gives him the chance to do so. Bear’s internal frailty appears again when he is trying to decide how he should kill himself. He picks up a gun but backs out, opting to swallow a handful of pills instead.>You keep thinking: if Bear had simply told Nikki he liked her right from the start, none of this would have happened.>According to research project DatePsychology, more than half of men aged 18 to 25 have not once gone up to a woman to ask her out in the past year, even though three quarters of women the same age say they want to be approached more often. Which is probably why this film could only be made by a 26-year-old Gen Zer who fears what will happen when men fail to act and resort to dreams and wishes and magical fantasies.>The lesson of the movie? If you like someone, just ask them out.
>>221025816Doesn't work because Bear had a girl who liked him but he was a dumb retard so he went for the girl who only saw him as a friend. Poor sarah
>>221025901no the ENTIRE text. violate the Time's paywall and risk getting 4chan in trouble. anyone who wasn't working for this site or the Times would do it without even thinking.
>>221025816Anyone who takes anyone's free will away is a monster you moron
>>221026003Bear didnt take her free will though, it was the supernatural mind controlling demon.
>>221025901>even though three quarters of women the same age say they want to be approached more oftenThey want to be approached more often by 6'4 billionaire vampires, not guys like Bear
>>221025901>even though three quarters of women the same age say they want to be approached more oftenWell it sounds like the men would also like to be approached more often, doesn't it? Why are women so afraid to step up?
>>221025816>wanting a girl to reciprocate your feelings is literally rape, chudWe don't even have a country anymore and this is what these retards are still worried about.
>>221025816fine, op, I'll do the legwork:https://archive.is/vCyYvtl;dr: young men le bad and responsible for their own loneliness
>>221025816should've wished for maternal love
>>221025901>want to be approached more oftenBy the top 10% of men, not the other 90%. 9 out of every 10 guys asking them out would give them serious ick.
>>221026308this, and we all know it. the data confirms it. why are we pretending otherwise?
>>221026279>goes back in time and turns into a baby>memories still intacthonestly not a bad deal, he'll just have to find someone else
>>221026331yes
>>221026308F
>>221025816imagine feeling loneliness lmaothis post has been brought to you by schizoid gang
>>221026308Fucking this, they forget 90% of men literally don't exist to women
>>221026110>tradcels when they’re expected to perform the traditional acts of masculinity
>>221025832This pretty much sums the whole issue up. Women can't comprehend that just because they see 95% of men as utter subhumans, doesn't mean those men cease to be human.
>>221027030It's not hypocrisy for me to expect you to hold beliefs consistent with your belief system. Personally, I want to go back to women being chattel.
>>221027393>hold beliefs consistent with your belief system.But these girls saying they’re waiting for a man and not “I’m a boss bitch I go get dick when I want’’ is literally them being conservative, you retarded nigger.
>read plot>it's fucking retardedSo is it ever explained why she acts that way or is it simply exposing female nature?
>>221027686>is literally them being conservativeIt's them being fucking lazy
>>221027686I'm sure they wouldn't agree with you
>>221025816Sooner or later you'll be forced to admit islam has a point.
>>221025816>guy turns women into lust golem >ummm I think he's actually the bad guyamazing but to be fair you would need a high IQ to figure this out
>>221025901> women the same age say they want to be approachedoh so now they don't want equality, how about women approach men equally
>>221025844Seek help
>forcing someone to love you against their will is immoral and has horrific implications >actually women are chattel It’s dire that literal trannies are proven correct about the right-wing time and time again.
>>221025816It's the truth? Men who failed to form healthy social connections are the ones who turn to things like gangs and extremist groups to feel a sense of belonging. These predatory groups have a very easy time recruiting men who have nothing in their lives and are desperate to feel wanted. Then these same men commit unspeakable atrocities because the only thing that matters is whatever cause they've been brainwashed into. So yah I am wary around 20-something year old men who don't have friends or a gf. They are a ticking timebomb.
>>221025816Unless shes sucking your dick you should not be paying attention to what a women has to say at all. Why would you respond.
This "nice guy" archetype hasn't existed since like 20115 and gen Z/alpha are some of the most disengaged from dating at all, much less pouring years into being some orbiter. The recent uptick in this discourse is just a psyop get get disillusioned men back on track to avert the secondary crisis of leftover women who don't have virgin nerd engineers to settle for anymore.
okay now write the movie where a woman is the bad guy because she did a "he loves me, he loves me not" game on a flower and it turns out it's a REAL MAGIC FLOWER, so now the guy she was talking about is basically a meatpuppet for enchanted super-adorationbecause if this guy is such a villain for making a dismissive "lmao imagine if this works" poorly worded desire at a magic object and getting swept up in the consequences, there shouldn't be any issue swapping the genders and using a more grounded setup, right?
>>221025901So if Bear told Nikki he liked her would she have reciprocated?
>>221027939Show me your tits whore.
>>221025816>the true villian in movie/tv shows is always the man, never the woman or demon or jinn or monster or vampire etci am so tired of this shithole planet
I wish women were real...
>>221025842>imagine unironically defending bear's pussy actionsthe only action he made that impacted the story was wishing for his crush to love him. everything that happened after that he had no control over. she was already acting physco day 1 with the wish and his actions had no impact on her. bear has very little agency in the story actually
>>221026003yes because the rules and stipulations of how that wish would play out was thoroughly explained to him before using the wish.
>>221026003Slavery and colonization was justified, thirdie. Only mistake is that we should've gone scorched earth on you faggots when we left.
>>221025901Fucking women always lie. They live in a parallel reality where they are never at fault, its always da heckin men. Hole opinions are completely worthless.
>>221028520White Man's burden
>>221025816when i went to the theatre to see this it was easily 70+% women (maybe even 80+)%, its a reddit-tier chick flick of course itll be anti-maleif the MC would have just thought it through and worded his wish a little differently it would have been a nice relationship but that would mean a nothingburger of a film so they had to go all in on her being obsessed to make him out to be le bad man
>>221025901She left out part approached by chads
>>221028678My theater had plenty of guys
>>221025832Yes, that's the message. Women don't want worker bees trying to act like studs. If you're not a sex haver then they want you to get back in the wage cage.
>>221028035Ya probably
>>221025844Based ToiletCHAD. Patrician's fetish.
>>221028678the funny thing is that I don't think the director meant to make an anti-male film, but women choose to rationalize the silly plot as being the main character's fault and the distributor is capitalizing on it effectively, so it's BECOME an anti-male film by accident.
>>221027001
>>221028035>>221028760No.
>>221025901>according to
>>221027997"f" on reddit means male half the time
>>221025901>men fail to act and resort to dreams and wishes and magical fantasies.I-Is she scared that men are gonna use magic against women?
>>221028678The maddening thing is the wish quite literally isn't wooded poorly. There's no reasonable way to twist "I wish she loved me more than anyone else." into "I wish she was trapped to watch as an entity takes over her body so that it can love me instead." Actually apparently the director said there was no entity, which goes against what we see on the screen. Im sorry but this shit was poorly written.
>>221025901>>According to research project DatePsychology, more than half of men aged 18 to 25 have not once gone up to a woman to ask her out in the past year,I'm a millennial boomer and I never approached a girl once. My gfs and now wife were all the ones to make the first move. Why don't gen z women approach anymore?
>>221028755>Women don't want worker bees trying to act like studsI remember during the early days of TRP noticing this. You'd think men wanting to improve themselves by losing weight/getting in shape, and making more money would be universally considered a good thing right? wrong. Upon finding out there was a community where subhuman losers were attempting to leave the "non human" caste, women were viscerally offended by the mere IDEA of it or that they may be fucking someone who was formerly an untouchablelike if you weren't already born a stud who just effortlessly had muscles and an electric personality, you were an uppity imposter who needed to know your place and go back into the dirt
>>221025816Kill women.
>>221029092Women are low key scared that men are going to use AI, virtual reality and (eventually) robotics to circumvent the need to go through women for sexual satisfaction. They know they'd lose all social power if that future was to ever become real.
>>221029098the director is just saying whatever he thinks he has to say to keep the gravy train rolling. he's also eliminated the idea that Bear is the bad guy in other interviews, even though that's the primary reading of the people who think the film is good.
>>221029148Most men in those communities never improoved into a higher category. Women just don't want lesser men who THINK they've become studs to hit on them. This is why they develop increasingly brutal messaging to continue shattering the false confidence low tier men build up. A lot of the modern gender hostility is just women wanting short/fat/bald/ugly/etc men to stay away from them.
>>221029161>Women are low key scared that men are going to use AI, virtual reality and (eventually) robotics to circumvent the need to go through women for sexual satisfaction. They know they'd lose all social power if that future was to ever become real.It wouldn't just be a loss of power men might actually just set them as a permanent underclass. Women don't perceive this because most men want to fuck them but they're annoying to EVERYONE who doesn't get to have sex with them.
>>221029161Women use AI bfs more than men do ai gfs lol
>>221029297That because AI bfs only simulate the emotional part of having a partner. Most men will need the physical stimulation as well.
>>221029242>A lot of the modern gender hostility is just women wanting short/fat/bald/ugly/etc men to stay away from themIt's that plus women also don't want to be seen as shallow for doing that so they're walking a tightrope where they act like all they care about is personality while also attempting to filter out physically unattractive men. There would be much less bitterness on both sides if women were just honest about what they really wanted instead of pretending men they aren't attracted to have a win condition available to them if they just do (X). But that would require we all stop pretending women aren't just as shallow and attracted to looks as men are.
>>221029297>>221029334I think part of it as well is that women have always had a predilection for text-based romance and erotica. AI chatbots are just the new version of the coomslop novels they'd read in the bathtub.
>>221029365>It's that plus women also don't want to be seen as shallow for doing that so they're walking a tightrope where they act like all they care about is personality while also attempting to filter out physically unattractive men. There would be much less bitterness on both sides if women were just honest about what they really wanted instead of pretending men they aren't attracted to have a win condition available to them if they just do (X). But that would require we all stop pretending women aren't just as shallow and attracted to looks as men are.women are even more shallow, but they're also stupid. see how women constantly shack up with actual criminals or deadbeats then have kids with said losers. Women aren't just shallow they're barely intelligent.
>>221029263It is very important that women don't get what they want
>>221029242that's a fair point. a LOT of dudes in TRP (namely the Indians) wanted to stay in the anger phase indefinitely and just be mad at the world for their circumstances instead of fixing it>A lot of the modern gender hostility is just women wanting short/fat/bald/ugly/etc men to stay away from themanother fair point. women started a global jihad on flirting in public specially to make the icky icky non-human men go away forever, but because women are fucking retarded and don't understand second-order effects, the 5% of men they found attractive are staying away too and now no one flirts with these girls.
>>221025816>dude breaks a stick out of frustrated "lolz this sucks">actually works>literal demon posseses female or something>"Guys the white male teenager is actually the villain here because he should have known that doing this would unleash a supernatural force never recorded in human history and because of his desire to feel lo...control women...that makes him far more evil than the demonic entity forcing said female to do what the wish implied because the demonic entity is just acting on its NATURE AND NATURE IS BEAUTIFUL!"
>>221029148>if you weren't already born a stud who just effortlessly had muscles and an electric personality, you were an uppity imposter who needed to know your place and go back into the dirt>t. the sex that can't live without make upLuv from Khz, bros.
>>221029297>>221029388it's because AI is sycophantic and tells you whatever you want to hear, which is a perfect storm for women. I'd imagine there are similar amounts of women using chatbots as therapists for the exact same reason
>>221029161>tfw there was a sex doll brothel...sort of>tfw it was a sex shop where you could "test" sex dolls for a fee>tfw all of the women got mad and had it closed downPseudo-uteri would see women become extinct.
>>221028459>could've told nikki he liked her; he didn't>could've offed himself; he didn't>could've offed nikki; he didn't>tried to off himself at the end; he pussied out
>>221029161TRVTHNVKE
>>221027939You're so close to understanding the civilizational level threat we've been trying to warn you about.
>>221025844based scatbro.
>>221025901>women aren’t worth approaching >this is somehow men’s fault >also if you don’t kys you’re the bad guyWomen’sRightsWereAFuckingMistake
>main character is "Bear">women still don't want to be with himwtf
>>221029478>we're just like you!>you fucking weirdos!you have to laugh
>>221029439nice summary
>>221029439if his "lolz this sucks" was anything but the manipulation of others, nobody would care. de facto toxic masculinity
>>221025901women will do literally anything except ask a dude they like out. they are so selfish its unreal.
>>221025901>The lesson of the movie? If you like someone, just ask them out.So they can record it for tiktok and laugh about you?
>>221029480the previous system of trying to pair off as many people as possible was all about societal stabilitywomen have dismissed 90% of men are considered complete untouchable rejects unworthy of love or having a good career, and somehow expect those men to just quietly go along with itif ugly people discover how truly disgusted everyone is by them at a biological level, it threatens societal stability because they'll immediately try burning everything down and they're almost 100% justified in doing so
>>221025816Imagine being retarded enough to have a single wish in the entire world and blowing it on a single woman's affection. Just wish to be a trillionaire and get whatever bitch you want.
>>221029639this happening just confirms that you're better off without her.
>>221026230Thanks. No one else in the thread will read it but I did.
>>221029698Thank you for your service.
>>221025844What a high T aryan male.Even I, a white man of patrician taste would gladly empty her shot sack using nothing but my suction power and yes I'm not that pussy ass nigger cattle like protagonist.
>>221028852Providing a source is never a negative thing and should instead be the bare minimum.
I just like how the entire idea of treating this film as a critique of modern men is implicitly based on the idea that a modern women would never think make a similar wish about some guy she liked. As if only men are selfish. Matter of fact, Im pretty sure the bitch that liked Bear might have made the same spur of the moment wish that he did if she didn't know it actually worked too (if she did she'd prob use it to get into art school I suppose).
>>221025841Seems like the evil willow is more the problem. Wishing for stuff is not harmful, even wishing for someone’s love/affection. There’s nothing about anything he did that should lead her to becoming a psycho murderous demon.This is like if you wished for a peanut butter and jelly sandwich and then a giant pb&j the size of the moon crashed into earth killing everyone. In what sense is that a good faith fulfillment of the wish?
>>221029399If the dudes they're shaking up with are losers then what does it make you? kek
>>221025816what a weirdo
>>221025832You can desire whatever you want, just don't act like people are obligated to bend over backwards to fulfil your desires. I fucking "desire" a vacation in Hawaii and a cocktail on a hammock by the beach right now. But I can't afford one and that's that.
>>221029092Unironically yes, and she should be.
>>221029161Men can use their hands for sexual satisfaction. There are plenty of ways to get sexual satisfaction that don't involve another person. Sexual satisfaction is not a bargaining chip, that's pure fantasy.
>>221030170>Men can use their hands for sexual satisfaction. There are plenty of ways to get sexual satisfaction that don't involve another person. Sexual satisfaction is not a bargaining chip, that's pure fantasy.>getaloadofthisguy.jpg
>>221029810correct, because this is not in fact a pointed hard critique of qualities inherent to being a man. Bear is more emotionally stunted child than any kind of man. A minority contingent of fellow boys with the same faults doesn't mean it's a generalized attack on the gender and since when do we not want moral instruction to make our boys into men? red pill guys ought to have the same critiques of Bear I would think for being such a oneitis pussy
>>221029161>low key
>>221025816It’s about incels, not lonely men. Lots of people are lonely, men and women, old and young, but they wouldn’t do such incelish acts such as forcing someone to be with them against their will.
>>221029334hey where'd those goalposts go?
>>221030271shut the fuck up
>>221030327Hit a nerve, it seems.
>>221030271Incels really want to make every male single into an incel so that they feel less pathetic.
>>221029819The movie specifically has him phrase it like “I wish Nikki loved me more than anyone else on this fucking planet” it’s pretty obvious why the wish interpreted it as making her fanatically obsessed, she loves him more than even herself. And it’s a movie conflict and plot needs to happen lmao Freaky Nikki was beautifully portrayed
>>221025816>wish for woman to love you>she turns into a monstermaybe the real message is that women aren't capable of love?
>>221030345>phrase it likedude the camrip is out just check it
>wish for love>you're now a villain
>>221025901>even though three quarters of women the same age say they want to be approached more oftenWomen say all kinds of bullshit. Trusting a woman at her word alone is a rookie mistake.
>>221030366Did I quote it wrong, I’m pretty sure that’s word for word what he says I saw it in theatres last Saturday
>>221030381>ruin lives because you’re too pussy to ask a girl outYup, incel type shit.
>>221030271>forcing someone to be with them against their will.normie rapists do this
>>221029478the robot doesn't bring up some childhood trauma I opened up about to use as ammunition during an argument
They're not lonely, they're losers.
why is this movie being treated like a critique on modern men? almost every guy has experienced being too nervous to ask out a crush and wishing she liked him back. its a universal experience.
>>221025816I think is stupid, i haven't watched the movie but he just wished for something, how money times people have wished for something? It's like finding a four leaves clover and wishing to get a million house, then the wish comes true but the house you have was stolen to a poor family and shit.Sometimes people make wishes and don't think far beyond because is just that, wishes, fantasies.
>>221030649Perma online people.
Incels are a fake issue.
I thought finding a girlfriend would help my loneliness but I just ended up hating her and feeling even more isolated living with someone I despised. I ended up dumping her and now I'm a lot happier. I kinda wish I still had the incel mindset that sex and a girlfriend would solve my problems.
>>221030649>why is this movie being treated like a critique on modern men?they probably mean to critique gen z for not having communication skills, not men. the sarah girl was pretty late to reveal her feelings
>>221030649>its a universal experience.So there's a myth that women understand men. They don't; they don't at 16 and they're no better at 60. Women (and simps) however wholeheartedly believe this myth and produce endless volumes of work commenting on the behavior and minds of men. They mistake this endless pile of bad ideas as insightful and produce more. Then they go out and look for other things live movies and produce more bullshit commentary.
>>221027825>white people when you exist near them
>>221027363Correct.
>>221030696>I thought finding a girlfriend would help my loneliness but I just ended up hating her and feeling even more isolated living with someone I despised. I ended up dumping her and now I'm a lot happier. I kinda wish I still had the incel mindset that sex and a girlfriend would solve my problems.You sound like ingesting a lead pill will solve what ails you, instead of wishing for things go do them.
>>221030696I dated a girl who was a cutter, suicidal and wanted me to beat her every other week. She also didn't want to go to a fucking psychiatrist to sort her shit out. I haven't dated since then because being alone is preferable to seeing a chick bleeding out of her thighs every week cause 1 thing didn't go her way. sucks cause the first few months she was pretty normal but that was all a mask she put on in public or with friends.
>>221031061>>221030696Why the fuck would you date mentally ill people in the first place? Obviously being alone is better than being with someone you hate lmao
>>221028520>weYou're just an incel who's going to blow its own brains out after your parents die lmfao
>>221030982Thanks for reading.>>221031161All women are mentally ill, my gf didn't cut herself but she was still annoying like all women are. She moved from Chicago to Florida to be with me but didn't want to find any friends so she constantly wanted to do things with me, which was annoying and I felt smothered constantly. She also admitted she would make me angry on purpose because it turned her on and she liked it when I slapped her and yelled at her.
>>221031210You dated an insane retard that sliced her flesh and probably had awful hygiene because you couldn't do better. If you had an actually cute, functioning female who wanted to make you happy and give you a family you'd be singing a completely different tune.
Remember in The Craft where a guy is also put under a love spell and he basically gets double raped when another witch disguises herself as the person who cast the spell and fucks him.Oh and when he realises he's been raped and reacts angrily, he gets shamed and lectured about how he has no right to complain about being raped because he sleeps around. He apologises at but that's not good enough! Feminist cult classic by the way.
>>221029478I want to talk to womenThe problem is women don't want to talk to me
>>221030649I cannot relate to being too nervous and never approaching the crushI can however relate to gifting her stupid random shit, like lefting chocolates for her to find (with absolutely no note, of course)I haven't seen the movie but I don't think the guy represents me
The problem isn't that women only crave the top 10% of men, it's that the bottom 70% of women are fat now. So many more 5 and 6 out of 10 men would happily approach less attCrive some of they weren't always fat.
>>221029477so "do not wish for anything just kill yourself" ?ok, then faggot, kill yourself
>>221031414>The problem isn't that women only crave the top 10% of men, it's that the bottom 70% of women are fat now. So many more 5 and 6 out of 10 men would happily approach less attCrive some of they weren't always fat.I'd agree with you except that even those fatties are drowning in options. It's 100% female standards. People just refuse to accept any answer that doesn't put 100% of the blame on men, no matter how plainly reality is laid out in front of them. That goes for all issues, not just dating.
>>221031230I just told you my ex didn't cut herself, what? I'm not that other anon
>>221027363>doesn't mean those men cease to be human.They kinda do actually.
>>221025816>the lonely guy is the bad guy all you have to do is give him magic wish powers to do it so hate all lonely men because of this
>>221031230>If you had an actually cute, functioning female who wanted to make you happy and give you a family you'd be singing a completely different tune.I had this but I broke up with her last Christmas so I could keep binge drinking and emulating old PS2 games. She was willing to cook, clean and work but I just didn't like her. She was boring and after a few years I was tired of living with her.
>>221030095>You can desire whatever you want, just don't act like people are obligated to bend over backwards to fulfil your desiresUnless you're a woman in a relationship, then this doesn't apply. Is that it?
I love how incels will seethe about not being treated as humans just because they don't get sex (which isn't necessary for survival) but they'll treat minorities as sub-humans just for existing. I'm a fat manlet virgin but I don't blame women for not wanting to have sex with me, why would I?
>>221031761you're a fat retard
>>221031786>called me a fat retard>didn't call me wrong
>>221025816I'd feel fine with this kind of messaging if it came with some of proposal as to what men should do instead, but it never does. Only ever what you shouldn't do. It leads me to think that they're suggesting men should just not advocate for themselves in their relationships.
>>221031846didntwatchthemovieaward.jpg
>>221025816as a latino this is just the dating a latina experienceit wasnt scary at all, as a matter of fact it made me nostalgic
>>221030095>You can desire whatever you want, just don't act like people are obligated to bend over backwards to fulfil your desires.*unless you're a woman, black, gay, etc.
>>221031895We prefer Latinx
>>221025816this
>>221031875Yeah, I haven't seen it. Does it actually propose something?
I have incel fatigue
>>221031921Latine*
can someone please post the sex scene webm?trying to use it in a discussion about the movie and cant find it
>>221031929basically says stop being a pussy ass bitch nigga
>>221032053No, I don't think I will
not watching the BPDemon movie>she's ackchually the victimi dont care still not watching
>>221025816It's sort of true, but not for such an upfront reason. Bear isn't wrong for wanting affection, but he is a piece of shit for a.) ignoring Sarah when she's right there in front of him and b.) not helping Nikki when it's made clear to him what's going on. Stopping at "he is LE lonely" is missing the point, he had an out but couldn't see past his own head-in-ass delusions, not to mention he couldn't do anything about any of it on his own. He chose to run with the fuckdoll hellspawn girlfriend because it was ideal, and we see where that got him. Your typical "loneliness epidemic" guy wishes he even had an out to begin with. They would like to even have a chance with a Sarah. She was probably my favorite character, but her presence undermines the loneliness argument, her and Bear shared a warm connection in just about all of their scenes. Bear is driven by (title drop), not loneliness.
>>221029439Women are this retarded, yes. Even the "smart" ones.
>>221031761>sex (which isn't necessary for survival)>sex>necessary for survival>survivalyour dawin award is in the mail
she asked him if he liked her and he didn't get the hint that was the time to ask her out. He's a moron.
>>2210302742/3rds of them a still there, and the first part was elaborated on. Once men get a virtual gf they can realistically touch, its pretty much over for women.
>>221028459At any point he could have told anybody about the wish
>>221029439>>literal demon posseses female or somethingwhat's the difference between a demon possessed female and a normal one though?
>>221031161>Why the fuck would you date mentally ill people in the first place?The problem here is foids are all mentally ill. Their mental illness is either untreated or it's (((treated))) with (((SSRIs))) and (((therapists))) who tell her you're to blame for all the problems in her life and she should break up with you. Both options suck, but at least you get some wild pussy from the untreated mentally ill girls. (((SSRIs))) just kill their sex drive.
>>221032359Given her tone, she was pretty obviously going to turn him down. Idk if his autistic ass picked up on that or not.
>>221025832while i understand the incel flavor of this take, i definitely think this is one more step at chiseling away at the comfort and social connection once offered by western society. just as more and more money is required to buy the bare essentials for living, so too are even elemental human desires being discounted and diminished for most of the population. you don't deserve it, you're too awkward, you didn't work hard enough, you worked too hard, etc. there are a chosen few and a huge swath of low level serfs being designed for easy movement, manipulation, and disposal.
>>221032400Whenever I'm on Prozac, it actually makes me hornier. For a while, at least. After some time it goes back to normal. But I have a low sex drive to start with.
>>221031761I know you visualize incels as ugly white nerds but most of them are brown
>>221032304Just because some males don't have sex doesn't mean they can't continue to survive. Sure, their bloodline will end, but they won't die.>>221032481You're right, most of them are brown. I don't really care what race they are, though, crying because you don't have a woman makes you pathetic.
>>221032511>tomorrow is a social construct
>>221029439The problem isn't that he did it, it's that he stuck with it. Usually when your friend is demon possessed and you find out, you want to help them. Bear only wanted to alter the deal.
>>221029477so kill yourself then if it's so easy
>>221029148>women were viscerally offended by the mere IDEA of it or that they may be fucking someone who was formerly an untouchableyou're conflating normal women for zogglows and terminally online leftists trying to make a big deal out of incels, to the point that mainstream media picked up on them and started the demonization campaignyour average normal, run of the mill foid doesn't care if a nonsexhaver decides to improve himself
>>221032387and not a soul would believe him. what a retarded take
>>221032449>you don't deserve it, you're too awkward, you didn't work hard enough, you worked too hard, etc.what I hate about normies and high status people criticising our ilk with rebuttals like these, is that in many cases they never seriously struggled or faced hardships of any calibre
>>221032660>your average normal, run of the mill foid doesn't care if a nonsexhaver decides to improve himselfuntil its her social currency (pussy) on tje line with one of those former untouchables
>>221032703she's not gonna put out if she ever feels the slightest stink of inceldom coming from the guy, but she's not going to be opposed to the idea of men taking responsibility and bettering themselvesnot that women generally have "ideas", or take profound and committed stance on anything. they just go with society's flow to fit inhence, the media demoralization campaign against incels (and white middle class young men in general) being very much a deliberate attempt to pre-emptively exclude these people from the sexual market, by warning women of their """"""""danger"""""""
>>221025962Sarah was pushing my Garofalo buttons.
>>221032359I was put in a similar position, if your confidence is low enough you can't make a move before that it doesn't really make a difference.
Since when are people using incel to mean bitchless.It's ok if you don't want kids, it's ok if you didn't have sex yet, your life won't change in some crazy way if you fuck some woman. Everyone longs for companionship and love, but not everyone will get it, that's just how it is and you just have to deal with it. Some things are under your control (you always choose to be a disgusting fat fuck, it just doesn't happen magically) and some things aren't and that's fine.Incel is specifically someone who identifies with the incel online subculture, which includes extreme political views, racism, misogyny and all that schizo shit, it doesn't mean virgin/not in a relationship.
>>221032910What do you think the "in" and "cel" stand for? Because they do mean something.
>>221032952yeah but that's not what people mean by saying that word most of the timethere's plenty of other words for "lmao 25yo virgin kek"loser is one of them, there's nothing wrong with being an "incel" (in the original sense of the word, as you mean it), the actual issue is everything that's assumed on top of it in the current iteration
>>221032910>Incel is specifically someone who identifies with the incel online subculture, which includes extreme political views, racism, misogyny and all that schizo shit, it doesn't mean virgin/not in a relationshipnow tell us what you think fascism means
>>221032910"Woke" and "incel" literally have a different definition every other time they're written. We really need to put these words in the dirt.
>>221033005>meanings changeEven if you want to take that stance, it's still good to remember the original definition.
>>221032910>>221033005your posts exemplify the very thing you are questioning>Incel is specifically someone who identifies with the incel online subculture, which includes extreme political views, racism, misogyny and all that schizo shitthis is so incredibly retardedincel is simply used whenever women and feminine men want to put down a manloser is pretty close but doesn't have the same impact because a lot of these women and femine men are 'losers' in their own right
>>221033026not really>>221033063yeah which is why I think people should actually use the appropriate word to say what they actually mean instead of creating additional confusion, that was the whole point
>>221033016Someone following an ideology that expects the citizens of a nation to unquestioningly put the benefit of that nation, represented by its leadership which is treated as practically synonymous with the nation itself and so is the citizens loyalty to it, before their own benefit or well-being.
>>221033176so words just mean what you feel they should mean from whatever dumbass context you first encountered themyou're like a mexican learning english by watching dragon ball z dubs or something
>>221033171>creating additional confusionThat is entirely dependent on who is creating those additional meanings. As you said earlier, there is nothing intrinsically wrong with being an incel as it is originally designated. Over time, the term has been villified. I'll leave it to you to figure out who has anything to gain from doing so in the first place.
My dad and younger brother both make fun of me for being 25 and still a virgin. They call me "Virgy" in front of my friends and think it's "just banter" even though I tell them it bothers me. I can't really blame them since my younger brother has been with his gf for 4 years and actively tried to get me to go out with him but I stayed home and played Final Fantasy XIV.
>>221032910Incels are men that want dates but can't get them. It's just that simple. The apparent intersection with right wing politics comes purely from the fact that lefty incels call themselves asexual, or something else along that line, instead
>>221033286>VirgyHaven't heard that one in a while.
>>221033286I want to believe the first person to post this was being earnest. Classic pasta.
>>221032449It truly is over, some men in history have truly died alone, but now it’ll be more than ever
>>221033296want and try* to get dates
>>221033297>>221033311kek, it's my OC. I started posting the original back on /v/ in like 2018 before I quit going on that terrible board
>>221028035nope, and then their friendship would have ended forever because now she doesn’t trust me even in platonic capacity. I mean him
>>221033333Holy digits Batman
>>221032660>your average normal, run of the mill foid doesn't care if a nonsexhaver decides to improve himselfThat is until her innate "bad genetics" sensors go off when approached by a genetically challenged man who tried to better himself
>>221025816>Yes. I'm the vilain. Fear me.
>>221033406>Fearing BearThe entire point of his character is that a worm has more backbone than he does.
>>221032910>Incel is specifically someone who identifies with the incel online subculture, which includes extreme political views, racism, misogyny and all that schizo shit, it doesn't mean virgin/not in a relationshipThis definition was invented by women (and their lefty sőy male feminists) to justify shitting on undesirable virgin men for reasons that sound less harsh than shitting on them simply because they're undesirable virgin men. Just like how they redefined "racism" to include the requirement of having power, once people started pointing out the unabashed racism demonstrated by many blacks against whites and other minorities.
>>221033377speaking of digits
>>221032910"incel" means involuntarily celibate. end of story. i dont care what a bunch of sub 100 out of touch normies think it means.
>>221033563>normiesYou're not on Reddit anymore, you can say normalfag
>>221028484How else would the wish possibly work other than to overwrite her current brain in some way?
>>221029478the robot won't laugh at me when I stutter
>>221032685>billion dollars drops from sky
>>221033589you can suck my dick but you'd have to take your dad's out of your mouth first.
it was an accident; he didn't mean to turn her into that thing. they were both victims.
>>221029092escapism isn't healthy, a symptom of a deeper problem.
>>221033589kek
>>221033613This was so stupid, in this day and age that shit would be direct deposited into an account.
>>221033624Crude and rude, this board is for gentlemen who respect each other.
>>221033671Presumably this was the monkey paw aspect. I didn't notice the denomination, but he could be potentially flooded with literally one billion one dollar bills.
>>221033627That's the thing though, he didn't really try to fix it either. Nikki never loved him, but he got something in the body of Nikki that pretended to love him. He didn't really turn that down, it was only a problem because Nikki was fighting back and causing all sorts of weirdness. Bear ultimately got his wish, even if it wasn't the exact way he intended, and he never truly wanted to reverse it. Even at the very end, instead of blowing his brains out he took a bunch of pills, walked out and enjoyed his fantasy one last time before they kicked in. He never learned his lesson.
>>221033296I call myself a bachelor. What single men have been called for a long time. I have no idea why rightists are so obsessed with making up newspeak terms for concepts that have perfectly good words for them already.
>>221033750Alright, that would actually be kinda funny.
>>221033777Checked, we've got a confirmed bachelor here boys
>>221033777Eternal victim complexes
Contextually the story is a knock at beta males and implicitly a knock at insane roasties. Nikki post wish acts kike every bpd whore you had the displeasure of fucking away a 6month relationship with and bear acts like your typical “nice guy” faggot who has no backbone and treats women with a mix of simpdom and objectification.The movie shits on how both men and women have become a bit fucked. Focusing on one aspect to push gender war bullshit is just typical subversive shit. Relax.
>>221025816Art imitates life.There's no group of people more dangerous or vile than straight white lonely men.
>>221026308Wizard Chad here, I am 32 and a virgin, yet I work with a dozen 18-30 year old women and most have expressed attraction to me in some fashion including the married ones. This has been the case in most of the places I inhabit. The ones in relationships are with ugly men by loox standards, most fat and round faced. This is to say that your ideology is flawed but not entirely incorrect. They do express interest in finding a more attractive partner yet many are still locked in with regular men. Do not kneecap yourselves by assuming that you have no chance because of appearance or income, many women actually 'prefer' a moderately unattractive partner as it signals a proclivity for comfort. Data from online dating is not indicative of reality because it allows them total freedom of mobility in selection when generally proximity is the deciding factor. Many men are with beautiful women simply because they were the ones that were close by when she felt the need for affection. If insecurity that you will not be the most attractive man in the world to her is holding you back, consider that she will never be Jaime Pressly in Joe Dirt or Tiffani Theisson in Son in Law. Beauty is in the heart, and familiarity will make you beautiful to one another. If not, remember that masculinity is likened to the sun in that it shines indiscriminately only to then be reflected by the moon.
>>221033777I hope you never said this in public because its what you say about gays who refuse to come out.>say honey how come charles never got married? >oh you know, he is a "bachelor" wink, wink
>>221033888This is probably the best take I've seen. It's all just opposite side bullshit, it takes jabs at both sides and all it takes is not being up your own ass to see it. If anything this can just serve as a cautionary tale that you can take a note from, but again that involves introspection and not just cope.
>>221030482>why don’t you open up more anon youre always so stoic“Last time I did that the past 3 women used it as ammunition.”>well…im different.>fast forward 6 months>shes not
>>221025816This shit movie has absolutely mindbroken zoomers
>>221033888Correct.
Both sexes are irrelevant to my achievements. Same thing with old people or young people. They are just not relevant to me. Why? Because no one ever helped me in life. I lived in the salvation army as a kid and no one cared. But that doesn't mean I don't care about them. I give freely, money or caring means nothing to me. Then everyone seems to glitch out. Everyone seems to try and put people in some hierarchy which doesn't even matter.
>>221033888I think it shits on men more than women because it turns Nikki into what Bear's wish was interpreted as. Nikki spent the entire movie trying to regain autonomy in order to kill herself. Then there's Ian and Sarah, the former trying to sabotage Bear because he wants Nikki himself (but at least he semi-cares enough to know something's wrong), and while the latter's pretty catty with Nikki so +1 to the point (women hating other women, wow), she does genuinely care for Bear. The film does seem to lean more as an attack on men's desires to own women.
>>221032393The demon possessed one loves him enough to literally kill for him, has no priorities other than chasing him down and will never leave him or lose interest in him
Why are anons relating themselves with some fictional guy who's clearly the same old tired 'nice guys amrite?' trope? Travis Bickle and that kind of stuff is cool at least.
>>221033901shalome
>>221033589But fag is a scary no-no word :(
>>221033888Sarah and Ian also contribute to both Bear and Nikki not just getting together. Sarah deffinitly told Nikki she has a crush on Bear, so Nikki would feel bad if she started dating him. That could lead her to going on and off with Ian. If that was true, it could mean Ian was giving nothing but bad dating advice to keep Nikki to himself. I'd have to see the movie again, but it seems like they wanted Bear to have good reason to think Nikki would never love him because of stuff Ian and Sarah talked about with him.
>>221025984Huh, it's actually a pretty short article. Should fit in two or three posts.>With a budget under $1 million, the thriller Obsession has earned more than $100 million in the US and more than $148 million in theatres worldwide. So far, it’s the sleeper hit of the summer.>But it is no shlocky horror flick. I saw it over the weekend and found it to be a surprisingly deep film. At heart, it’s a morality tale for today’s aggrieved young men — a story about male cowardice, female desperation and the nightmare of getting exactly what you asked for. A fitting fable for our social-media age.>First, you have to understand the idea that the film keeps circling around, one that has absolutely nothing to do with the supernatural: a man wants to be wanted more than he wants the object of his desire. It’s an idea that echoes the words of the looksmaxxing influencer “Clavicular”, who has said that knowing he could have sex with a woman is better than actually having sex with her.>In Obsession, a young man named Baron (nicknamed “Bear”) is obsessed with the beautiful, charismatic Nikki. He’s desperate to ask her out but he can’t find the words. Early on, she tells him that she has lost a necklace and she’s desperate for it back. So Bear goes into a shop to buy her a replacement. He then exits the shop with a gift for himself — a cursed trinket that promises to grant him a wish.>Later, Nikki gives Bear an opening to tell her how he really feels about her — but he fails to do so. He can’t do it without knowing how she feels first. And so, out of pathetic desperation, Bear retrieves the “One Wish Willow” from his bag and wishes that Nikki will love him forever.>It works. Nikki becomes possessed and falls madly, horrifyingly in love with Bear. He gets what he wants, which means the wanting is over. And that’s where the horror begins.
>>221033286Go get a rent a hole if it bothers you so much. Or better yet: GO TALK TO WOMEN. virgy
>>221034273>Why would being loved to the point of obsession be so awful? Because real love requires the other person to be free.>The thing that makes Nikki worth loving was that she is autonomous, that she has the power to choose Bear. The wish strips all of that away. Nikki tells Bear that she will be “anything you want me to be”. This isn’t really a person worth wanting at all.>Bear (played by Michael Johnston) is also upset that his friends are growing sceptical of how much Nikki suddenly likes him. Although Bear wants to be wanted by Nikki, that’s not enough. He wants to be seen as the type of man who could be wanted by a woman like Nikki.>Eventually we learn that the real Nikki (played by Inde Navarrette) is still trapped in her now-possessed body. Every now and then she claws her way to the surface. In perhaps the film’s creepiest scene, she whispers, “Kill me, Bear. Please”. That is the real Nikki, awake for one second inside the puppet, begging to be put out of her misery. Bear hears her but he does nothing. He’d rather keep the terrifying and potentially murderous puppet that adores him alive instead of liberating the person who didn’t choose him of her own free will.>I notice that every time Nikki makes explicit or implicit requests of Bear, he always fails to give her what she wants: “Tell me whether you actually like me. Replace my necklace. OK, now I’m possessed and I want you to love me. OK, now I’m trapped in my own body and this is a nightmare, please kill me.”>Bear declines each time. >At one point, the possessed Nikki screams at Bear “Tell me you love me!” and Bear screams back, under duress, “I love you!” Recall that early in the film Bear couldn’t say he liked Nikki until she said she liked him first.
>>221034296>The film portrays Bear as a weak and pathetic man from the very beginning. He doesn’t have the courage to ask Nikki out, even when Nikki directly gives him the chance to do so. Bear’s internal frailty appears again when he is trying to decide how he should kill himself. He picks up a gun but backs out, opting to swallow a handful of pills instead.>You keep thinking: if Bear had simply told Nikki he liked her right from the start, none of this would have happened.>According to research project DatePsychology, more than half of men aged 18 to 25 have not once gone up to a woman to ask her out in the past year, even though three quarters of women the same age say they want to be approached more often. Which is probably why this film could only be made by a 26-year-old Gen Zer who fears what will happen when men fail to act and resort to dreams and wishes and magical fantasies.>The lesson of the movie? If you like someone, just ask them out.>Rob Henderson is a senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute and the author of Troubled: A Memoir of Foster Care, Family and Social Class.
>>221025832Unironically the advice of most therapists is you need to accept being a forced aromantic asexual
>>221033984so all those rich guys on that eponymoys show were all gay?
>>221034260Ian wants Nikki and Sarah wants Bear, and if it panned out that way then there would be no film.
I DON'T GIVE A SHIT ABOUT THIS MOVIE OR IT'S MESSAGE CAN WE MOVE ON TO THE NEXT ASTROSURFED GARBAGE??
The entire crux of the current crisis is that over the last half century or so, women made a bunch of demandsAnd men listened and did what they were asked to doEvery single thing, women shouted for it and men replied with "Okay, you can have it"And this not only destroyed society, it somehow also infuriated and destroyed the womenSo at this point, I concedeNo, I'm not going to talk to you, just like you wantedYes, you're going to get raped by migrants, just like you wantedNo, I'm not going to rape you, you're going to get raped by the migrants you wanted so badlyWhy are you crying? You won, this is what you wantedYou got everything you wanted, be happy about itWhy aren't you happy?
>the true villain was lonely menMany such cases.
>>221034136>The demon possessed one loves him enough to literally kill for him, has no priorities other than chasing him down and will never leave him or lose interest in himSo the demon is a straight upgrade then, what a dumb movie.
>>221033773>fighting backthats what makes it the BPDemon movie. batshit mentally ill foids do this. they actively ruin you life and make zero sense doing it. and blame you for all of it.when all you did "wrong" was enter a presumably normal relationship with one. the Nikki fighting back is not different from manic 'possessed Nikki'. same girl. just BPD.
>>221034412No retard, because even if you're so retarded and deranged that you're okay with her randomly stabbing passersby or eating neighborhood pets, she literally has no choice. You didn't gain anything because the demon doesn't have the option to walk away. Love is a woman saying "I could fuck some other dude" and choosing not to because you're the one she picked.
>>221025901I have asked two girls out in the last 3 years who where friendly with me, saying they where single to me, laughing at my dumb jokes, etc....Both of them completly shut down and started ghosting me as soon as i asked them out. The first one was way above my level, it was a long shot anyway, but the second girl had no tits, no ass, acne, problems, autistic as fuck, etc.... and she still had the ick when i asked her out. Fuck em. I'll wait for the sexbots.
>>221034447>she literally has no choice.How is this a problem?
>>221034447>has no choicethe lengths foids go to to avoud accountability for anythingproudly boasting how retarded you are isnt the flex you think it is
So it's just okay that she turns into a semen demon?
>>221034339Yes, thats what the film said and what I said.
>>221034324therapists are stooges of the system. their mission is making sure you're a cog providing value to society. to convince you to be happy with being loveless is the ultimate win for them. a little ant that contributes and takes nothing in return so that the eugenic hypergamy scheme of "20%er chads fuck all the women while you grovel" can chug along.
>>221034569>forever until the end of the human race>(five minutes later)
>>221034475Anon are you stupid, the fictional character was at the mercy of magic beyond her control. How fucking brown are you that this needs to be explained to you?
>>221034466This is Bear's perspective.
>>221034296Maybe im crazy but I dont agree with literally any of that author's presuppositions. I would be perfectly happy with a thoughtless automatonesque sex bot. Maybe I should watch the movie to see where/how she inevitably becomes an untenable psycho but idk, as an eternal shut in, i dont even know who or what else an overly obsessed automaton would find to feud with in my life. I would drop my friends and family over night and just go back and forth between work and my sex robot as my only hobby every day until I died and I wouldn't feel like I missed out on anything. Hell, a great number of young men are already living like this but going home to video games and tv instead of 10/10 pussy.
>>221034607>This is Bear's perspective.And? It's correct, who cares what women want.
They should make a movie about what it takes for an average guy mentally to be able to crawl through the broken glass of rejection and bullshit to arrive at the goal of sex or relationships which 99.9% of the time ends up being the real monkey paw as most girls end up being awful as people redeemed only by the fact they have a pussy which over time ends up not even being enough to make up for how miserable they make your life. A movie about the sort of Godlike Zen-centered mind and identity you need to achieve in order to even consistently talk to women and remain immune to whatever outcome you get which for some reason you then decide to direct towards getting women, rather than going through the rest of your life as an unwavering mountain of a person that would make the stoics kneel and seas part before you. It is a hellacious experience because even if you're a pretty appealing guy, you will get rejected occasionally and usually not in a bad way, but it means the entire process of interacting with women has psychological pain of one of the worst kinds unavoidably baked into it. The sort of pain that says "no matter what you have done it is simply not enough...and quite frankly, even continuing and getting even better may not be enough...now go do it again."
you WILL work to support Chad's baby, and you WILL be happy doing it!
>>221025816Not asking to have your own fully staffed Star Trek Enterprise space ship with a private holodeck was the true villain of the movie.
>>221034656>you WILL work to support Chad's baby, and you WILL be happy doing it!Men are already checking out of working let them push it further, civilization and their gibs will collapse entirely.
>>221034639Watch the movie and see how it goes wrong.
I'm alone. I am not lonely.
I think I would've botched it the second I found out Nikki fed me a dead cat. I would've angrily asked her if she was retarded. She'd probably pull out a knife afterwards.
>>221034693It is weird how Bear treats her more like a weird house pet instead of a person in the second half of the film
>>221034712That's what she is at the moment. She could probably be taught a lot better given time.
>>221032449
>>221025816It's a cliche monkey paw's story, don't overthink it.
>>221034689Important distinction, and one that I feel applies to this film.
>>221034656The crazy thing is that Marx wrote about thisAnd I don't mean in the Fox News "everything I don't like is Marxism" wayHe talks pretty extensively halfway through The Communist Manifesto about how in his future utopia, marriage and "dating" will be abolished as capitalist bourgeoise prostitution constructsAnd women will basically fuck whoever they want, and get pregnant all the timeAnd then when they give birth, their children will be given to the state to be raised in academies as future generations of socialist workers and soldiers, because of course a "mother" or "father" are also capitalist bourgeoise prostitution constructsAnd it will all be very liberating for everyoneAnd as I got to reading this, I really got to wondering how so many people read this and thought "Wow this is great, I love this guy, he is in no way an insane seething fucking retard"Maybe people were allowed to be more nuts back then. I recently learned that the guy who invented the disposable razor very sincerely wanted everyone on earth to live in a single city built around Niagara Falls (it was also key in his vision that "everyone on earth" constitute 60 million people, so a lot of folks have to go to get that beautiful planetary wildlife preserve)Like, he spent decades of his life and millions of his profits shilling that idea and then basically nobody thought about it again five minutes after he died unless they're making Buzzfeed tier listicles like I am in this post
>>221034606>beyond his controlso it's not his fault then
>>221034680>Watch the movie and see how it goes wrong.>it goes wrong out of plot convenience!in reality no one is so poorly written that they don't like having a live in sex slave dumbass.
>>221034741It's that one episode of Fairly Oddparents where Timmy wishes for everyone in the world to be gone except him and Trixie. Different setup, same endgame.
I'd rather just hire sex workers occasionally. If you fuckers actually landed a gf you would get bored as shit after the honeymoon period ends. Look at all the exChads in dead bedrooms who were stupid enough to actually MARRY these modern whores. Holy fuck you guys don't even know how good you have it.
>>221027907Dilate
>>221030095Yet people feel obliged to incels contributions to society. Curious
>>221034776Another post just said it, it's a monkey's paw.
>>221034760>And women will basically fuck whoever they want, and get pregnant all the time>And then when they give birth, their children will be given to the state to be raised in academies as future generations of socialist workers and soldiers, because of course a "mother" or "father" are also capitalist bourgeoise prostitution constructs>And it will all be very liberating for everyoneKarl Marx is the father of free use?
>>221025816so is this movie just about a monkey paw wish ?
Just seems like the writers didn't think at all about what an obsessed, loves-you-more-than-anything enchanted yandere girlfriend would be like.She just stands there and waits for him to come home, to the point of pissing herself? Makes no sense, a yandere would go out and find you wherever you are, there'd be no escape, she'd always want to be with you.Dead fish during sex? Makes no sense, a yandere would scare you with the intensity and aggressiveness - like a methhead or something.Feeds you your dead cat? That just makes no sense no matter how you approach it.Even the ending, with her wish, makes no sense. A yandere would wish for you to always be with her or for you to match her obsession to her or something.The more I learn about this movie the stupider it and its writers seem.
>>221026308this
I would be the hero to mankind. I would be like Jesus Christ standing in the center of a hurricane of fire slowly closing in. When I looked into the fire closely, I would see feminists seething, raking at me with their talons. I would utter the words while firmly grasping the wishing willow...>I wish women weren't such fucking cunts.>snapAnd then I'd smile as the flames closed in and consumed me and then the storm vanished.
>>221034823Yes.>Hey magic toy I wish <chick I had a crush on> were madly in love with me>Magic toy is actually magic><chick he had a crush on>: "I love you so much!" *stabs neighbors and eats housecat while ugly crying*
>>221029098that wish would turn her into a complete psycho regardless. I agree though that everything with the "she's actually still inside " was stupid and changed nothing about the movie other than making Bear's actions completely irredeemable.
>>221025816on behalf of all men I'd like to apologise for Bear's actions, he shoudd've been way taller and more muscular and better looking to get away with what he did either that or just rich
>>221034855>and eats housecatlike Tarrare?
>>221033773>Even at the very end, instead of blowing his brains out he took a bunch of pills, walked out and enjoyed his fantasy one last time before they kicked inI know we joke about muh media literacy around here but jfc how do you miss that freaky Nikki made a wish. the egalitarian beauty of 4chan is all our opinions are platformed equally but we've got to do something about wiki plot reading shitty camrip watchers
Awesome movie, blackpilling disguised as feminist slop, up there with Raimi Spider-Man and Titanic when it comes to showing the true nature of women>oh god please just kill me i would rather die than be with a friendzoned guy who loves me and isn't chadWomen would quite literally choose death over an average looking incel
>>221029161yeah I can't wait to pay 20,000$ to buy a locked down robo wife that only gives me sex if I'm a good goy and have to pay 300$ dollars a month to keep online you people are so fucking retarded looking forward to a future like that
>>221034934is that what they mean when they say theyd rather be alone in the forest with a bear than a man?
>>221034939That shit would be hacked in like a week dog, so that you can upload any OS you want.
>>221034839I'd just wish that periods weren't a thing. Net positive to society.
>>221034855She looked cute in that scene.
>>221034961delusional lmao you don't even own your phone and you think you're going to own your robot wife?
Bear should have just wished to be better better looking and have the best seduction and social knowledge and skills in history. The story isn't even a monkey paw story because other people are shown to make wishes and not have it go ironically wrong. The story is about Bear just not thinking through his wish correctly because he didn't think it would work.
>>221033888kinda crazy this is the first time since release I've heard "beta male" invoked when it used to be so in common parlance vogue and much more precise than "incel" here. times change huh
>>221034939anon the status quo provides no future for me.
>>221034832It makes a little more sense if you think that the Willow doesn't actually have the omnipotent power to directly do what a wish says, it just wrangles up some random demon asshole from hell and tells it "Hey do the closest approximation of this" and then the demon being grumpy and lazy fulfills the letter of the wish but not the intentSpeaking of Barkers, Clive Barker wrote a short story that a lot of complainers ITT would enjoy. The Yattering and Jack, about a guy who gets a demon thrall that's secretly determined to destroy him.But the guy is quite self-aware and clever and a huge asshole himself, so he trolls the demon the entire fucking time and by the end it's obvious that the demon is the one being punished more because his intended victim is a fucking Redditor who watches horror movies and reads horror novels and knows every possible way to turn his tricks back on him. It's absolutely a direct satire on every "Well if I were there I would have _____ better" fantasy.It was adapted as an episode of Tales From the Darkside where they chose to make the demon a fucking midget.
>>221034933I actually missed that, but it makes way more sense. All the pieces were in place for that to happen. My bad on that one.
>>221034975I do own my phone retard, I use a custom OS on it away from googles eyes.
>>221025816I hate when people do shit like say>the OTHER character is actually the Protagonist>the person the story follows is ACTUALLY the villainIf i were to write a story that went like this:>One day, a young Adolf Hitler went to his kitchen>He made a sandwich and ate it>A jewish woman bicycled down the street and Adolf could see her from out of the window>He grumbles and goes back to his room and takes a nap>The EndYou cant fucking say "...um i think the protagonist is the jewish woman cause hitler bad". People can say Bear was an irredeemable character or an unlikable character, a weak-minded character. They can say they dont like the movie because they dont want to watch a movie that follows a protagonist they dislike but quit trying to """media-literate""" their way through changing what the story is and how the story is told. And maybe a villain can be a protagonist. I dont care about the semantics as much as I just don't think you can elevate or degrade a movie based on what you think was going on in the subtext that you made up in your mind. If thats the case Curry Barker should come out and say that there was supposed to be a scene where the real Nikki momentarily breaks out of the demon's grasp and possesses a white house staffer and is able to minecraft president trump before slipping back into the back of the mind of Freaky Nikki once again and then continues on normally with the rest of the movie. He can say he wasnt able to film it and didnt really include it in the script ever but that's totally the message of the movie. Would he then just automatically get an Oscar from Hollywood?
>>221032637i don't have a demonically possessed gf i wished for
>>221034965Oops all infertile wombs. Or women all die of uteral infections.
>>221025816The absolute state of journalism lolololololol
>>221035012I might have believed you if you actually named the OS you used but you are obviously making shit up to pretend you would have the ability to jailbreak a cutting edge Meta™ droid
>>221034978Now here's the real question...Let's say Bear did wish to be better looking and supernaturally charming and through this he made Nikki fall madly in love with him...Would women still have a problem with it? If Bear is so good looking and so charming that women can't really resist him, then is it that much different than wishing a specific girl loved you? Women would certainly go>it's not the same thing because I could resist him!No you couldn't. By definition, he would be so attractive that you might reject him, but he knows how to handle it so well that you leave, go home, and masturbate to him, then run into him again and he once again throws his charm your way and you give in. Or he ends up sleeping with your best friend and you get jealous and he knows how to bend that jealousy into you having sex with him.
Supernatural covered how to do this ethically>yandere demon bitch falls madly in love with you>she needs a human host to interact with the mortal world>send her to a hospital to find the hottest piece of ass in the coma ward, a completely braindead meat sack that would otherwise instantly die if you turned her respirator off>yoink>you now get a yandere demon gf and she ISN'T permanently imprisoning some poor girl in her subconscious
>>221034934>Raimi Spider-Manexplain how this one shows the true nature of women, i've not watched it in a long time but I want to hear this.
>>221034965or all run-on sentences all the time forever
>>221035082I use graphene retard. There happy? Fucking foid
>>221035061You'd think nature would come up with a better solution over thousands of years of mammillian evolution. Maybe I'm too optimistic.
>>221035105Mary Jane is a cunt in every scene
>>221035105NTA but Mary Jane is actually horrific to Peter, literally straight up>yeah a million people are going to die tonight if you don't jump in but have you thought about MY feelings huh maybe I can do better than you
>>221035087>Now here's the real question...Let's say Bear did wish to be better looking and supernaturally charminghow fors the monkey paw twist this wish?
>>221033653ok marche
>>221035109
>>221035150>>221035087Isn't it obvious? He gets possessed by some demon that's more of a gigachad than he is, has to spend to rest of his life watching through his own eyes as his dick is driven into beautiful women without him being able to control it
>>221034934That's just natural selection. The unnatural part is letting sub 6 women get a pass. Imagine how good people would look if 7.5 men didn't reproduce with ogres.
>>221035152>ok marcheget back in your wheelchair and suffer.
>>221035150Can't turn the charisma off, would be fun for a while but then it stops being fun and oops.
>>221035104>and she ISN'T permanently imprisoning some poor girl in her subconsciousyou still dont know that. in fact, given what we've seen from rape statistics in the last 20 years it's probably more likely that there is a woman still suffering in that situation. Assuming the demons gender is a women she should also have automony but probably doesnt because of some anime spell
>>221035116which you installed with CLI right?
>>221035087I think it would upset women because women consider guys who improve themselves to get women evil. This wish is basically like Bear wishing he was an attractive supernatural pick up artist and women hate the idea of that shit because that stuff can only work if women have a bunch of exploitable qualities in common and every woman likes to think...pic related.
>>221035004you definitely weren't the only one I'll say that much - that's so funny though he was desperately shoving fingers down his throat and people thought he just.. abruptly stopped and decided to go chill on her lap lmao
>>221035165It was always that way. In the bronze age victorious tribes would kill or castrate basically all of the men and keep basically all of the women.In that sense a lot of this is also "men's fault" in that women were eugenically selected to be receptive to rape, the really loyal and stalwart bitches got rewarded with being stabbed alongside their husbands, not a great look from a Darwinism perspective
>>221035171You accidentally seduce your mom.
>>221034934Did he love her though? Their interaction in the bar was very awkward and distant. Compare that to Sarah's interaction, way more relaxed and empathetic.
>>221035181>you still dont know that.The demon does. She pokes her head right in that vegetable bitch and goes "Yep, it's free real estate."
>>221035197I interpreted the screen shift as the drugs kicking in, like he was too late to stop it. A little odd, but whatever. Nikki breaking the willow is a much stronger follow through though.
>>221035104they do this move in anime isekai reincarnations too sometimes - just hijack another kid but it's OKAY it was deathly ill! then pretend like it's not weird to be puppeteering another being's flesh
>>221035162The horror.>Ahhhh I have to watch myself bang models 2 at a time. I'm going insane!
>>221035211Anon, for some people that's the very first thing they would do with that power.
>>221035223>demons are omniscient
>>221035250You are being ironic because you've never had sex.
>burps on youhttps://youtu.be/Aokn8bdreHc?si=xjit_cd3x4Ag4FCI&t=152925:34
>>221035186damn that pic is so 2008much prefer the modern egirl aesthetics to that scene trashy mall goth look
>>221035279Wife material.
>>221035279she's a streamer? I've never heard of an actress streamer combo before
>>221035279disgusting
>>221025816Obession is just an old, overused idea, even Rick and Morty did it better https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6CHE_RSyV_M
>>221035322Everybody is a streamer now. It's kind of insane in its own way, the 21st century version of the Model Actress Socialite Hooker Waitress.
>>221035313>>221035361The duality of man.
>>221026096Yeah, and men want a massive torpedoed 11/10 blonde virgin wench who is frothingly wet and wants nothing more than to fuck a couch potato.Pretty much everyone settles for>the 7/10 dude from hinge who's clearly 5'9 despite his profile saying he's 6', but he paid for two IPAs and some nachos at the local dive bar and told a vaguely funny story about his sister's terrible trip to Paris and you're kinda horny so whatever, we'll give each other head after 20 minutes of "the big lebowski">the loose goth chick who's kinda chubby but not so chubby you wouldn't fuck her who works in the produce department and pretty much has fucked everybody, but so long as you don't ask too many questions or care, it's your turnJust how it is
>>221035427>settle for the 7/10lmao even when trying to be reasonable women can't help themselves from their retardation
>no literal bpdemon gf that will get up at 3:30 in the morning and stand in a shadowy corner to watch you sleep
>>221035604lol...I mean, you know...it's like, sometimes you just have to settle for the millionaire in his 40s, even though you're a princess who deserves a billionaire in his 20s...I mean...sometimes you just have to settle...Men just can't comprehend how we're the more empathetic and emotionally intuitive sex.
>>221035604the male mindvirus is not getting>It is extremely rare that an average man can't get to 7/10 with some combo of looksmaxxing, career-maxxing, social-maxxing and being sufficiently goofyany dude actually bringing more than one of the above at once doesn't stay 7/10 for long.the 6'4 billionaire vampire is the fantasy>we compromise on nothing and get literally everything elsebut for most men it's not hard to get 2 points above average through concerted effort and even for most butt-ugly men it's still pretty accesible. don't think we don't notice the lack of effort to fix it by the usual suspects whining about it
>>221035760>>221035673I'd feel a lot more sympathetic to the men whining about it if they had their money right, had full social calendars, a gym regimen they were keeping to, a good wardrobe, and held a light conversation better than a sub-autismic spergthe types whining never do though: they're to a man spaghetti-spilling shut-in skinny fats or lard blobs who look like their mom dressed them, and can't remember the last time they left the house for anything besides work or groceries, let alone to spend time with randos of the opposite sex.
>>221035760sniff my choccy rice krispies smelling unwashed end of day anus
>>221035864>everything revolves around MY interests!
>>221035864>had their money rightthe school system is biases in favor of girls. more women go to university. white collar jobs are disproportionally going to women.you want men to have money? stop excluding them from it on DEI basis.
>>221030696i can relate a bit. my boyfriend helps me in most ways but god damn he is a retard and selfish a lot of times. i will show him proofs on all the things he is wrong on and he will just ignore it. anytime it comes to saving money he just buys useless garbage like pokemon plushies and smart light bulbs.at least i never have to cook anymore
>>221034832Im about an hour into the movie so far and ive come to the same conclusion. This shit is retarded. She isnt acting obsessed, shes acting possessed. I know she is, but they didnt call the movie possesed.
>>221034739>why are men so lonely?>why are men in their bedrooms?>why are men not husbands contributing to the economy in well paid jobs?Truly is a mystery
>>221036012youre posting from a theatre?
>>221035893women pick, it's just how life works. If you wanna date men instead, feel free to exclusively care about male interests instead (though my suspicion is the good gays you'd actually wanna fuck or be fucked by are just as choosey, just on different stuff)>>221035873wow what a charmer>>221035925not my job to fix the school system + it being difficult is itself the reason it's a signal walls like this give the men who will put the work in to hurdle over them a leg up. In a world where this was fixed, you lose much of the edge that it represents.
>>221034656>feminism has killed birthrates>so we should have more feminismCambridge is an institution of forward thinkers.
>>221036043It's 2026 grandpa, you can stream movies to a mobile device.
>>221036012The title isn't in reference to Nikki.
>>221036073>not my job to fix the school system + it being difficult is itself the reason it's a signal walls like this give the men who will put the work in to hurdle over them a leg up. In a world where this was fixed, you lose much of the edge that it represents.that's just a roundabout way of saying you want to discard the majority of men>average men don't have money because they're lazy! average men should just start making more money and stop whining! average men are at fault!>actually they CANNOT because the system is stacked against them>that's a good thing because i don't want average men :^)you would be the discarded one if you weren't born with a vagina. but maybe you'll get to experience what it means eventually when you're 35 and childless.
>>221036112A great error of the modern era is that "destroying religion" would result in less religiosity. Instead, you get religious fanatics that don't even realize they've just built "secular-religions." >Prayer is the answer to this disease! >The person is getting more sick. >Then we need more prayer!They even have the same narrative structure with white privilege as original sin, using guilt as a system of control, and having a Great Evil Other in the form of Patriarchy or whatever the fuck nonsense they dream up. All while smugly looking at everyone around them and going "heh...religion is for idiots" at their local witch burning.
>>221034760>Maybe people were allowed to be more nuts back then.There are people right now advocating gene editing ticks to spread permanent, potentially lethal diseases to save animals from being farmed (and the lack of thought of where they all go afterwards and what happens to their farmland).
>>221036193>you want to discard the majority of menYes, retard, and it can't be any other way. Imagine if literally every single woman in a 5 mile radius was like>YES I would HAPPILY fuck you OH MY GOD >when can we start?!?!?!at some point you would need filters just to get through the day, and you'd pretty fucking quickly start getting picky, perhaps>no fatties, no uggos, buy me a meal first, and I want to talk for an hour to see if we vibe firstwhatever would float your boat, but you'd come up with something that avoids you having to fuck a bunch of weird, sweaty ugliesBlame other men or biology if it makes you happy, but nothing else is workable. It's not fair, but life isn't fair.
>>221036196>heh, trust the science, cancel capitalism>*gulps down estrogen pills made by big pharma*>guys I'm pregnant!
>>221036073>women pick, that's just how life worksand women always, always pick in favor of hypergamy. Men are polygamous because women choose.
>>221036370Use empathy: If you had more leverage in a negotiation, why would you not use it? You'd be retarded not to.
>>221036281geez i'm not saying YOU PERSONALLY need to FUCK EVERY MAN ON THE PLANET. For every woman there is a man, take it from there. You said it's men's fault for not making money while being presented the fact that men are deliberately kept from making money, which implies that the AVERAGE woman selects only NON-AVERAGE men, creating this imbalance. You saying that it's the average men's fault is putting blame on them for merely existing as themselves, while you also only exist as yourself and are NO BETTER, the ONLY thing you bring to the table is your beef curtain sandwich.and SNIFF MY KELLOG'S SMELLING ANUS.
>>221036436You're trying to use logic to argue with a foid anon.Just say>Show tits or gtfoIts the only way.
>>221035864>if they had their money right, had full social calendars, a gym regimen they were keeping to, a good wardrobe, and held a light conversation better than a sub-autismic spergMost women I've known don't have any of this.I'm not surprised you'd be more sympathetic to what you seem to be describing as a keeper, your ideal white knight, it is how the world works, like how good looking women get freebies and the rest? Well, I'm sure you of all people know how little you get.Most people have a job, go home at night, and talk like normal people. Gym is quite a commitment that ironically cuts off your "social calendar" if you want to be serious about it and not say hi to Stacey for drinks every evening whilst avoiding telling her she's no longer got "more to love" and is now "plus-sized" and should start on ozempic. You don't need ozempic, right?
>>221036436>For every woman there is a manDoes not follow for either sex desu. You'll date many people over a lifetime, you'll fuck several at once at points, life goes on. The idea of ITS ONE TO ONE is retarded.>You said it's men's fault Fault is the wrong word, but implying men have zero control here is equally retarded.>it's the average men's fault is putting blame on them for merely existing as themselvesIf you're inundated by average, and can choose, you choose above average, simple as. My point is the average whiner about it would get 8x farther just working on fixing the problem rather than just whining about it, they never do. Consider washing your kellogg ass, it's the kind of flaw no one's forcing you to have, and yet->>221036540If you see that post as logic, you're too far gone bro
>>221036637>gym is le hard>socializing is le hardomg most good hard to fake positive signals require work that's painfully hard to fake, can you believe it? I wonder why women it for filtering, what a mystery.
>>221035864>I'd feel a lot more sympathetic to the men whining about it if they had their money right, had full social calendars, a gym regimen they were keeping to, a good wardrobe, and held a light conversation better than a sub-autismic sperg>This kills the incel
>>221036411Of course. I learned that "women choose" is a form of selection strategy in biology. I'm not arguing for some sort of sexual equity system. What's happening is simply that men's ability to leverage during sexual selection is being taken away due to institutional pressure - specifically the ability to earn or outearn women. Women get the ick if they out earn men because women choose for hypergamy.
>thread goes to shit when a woman talks too muchmany such cases
>>221036694The ability to earn is cost into this calculusI've known and dated treehouse boys without a dollar to their name who were hair's edge close to getting kicked out of their dogshit apartments. They had other positive aspects that justified it (hot, funny, cool, popular, etc.). Push out to the quality frontier in basically any direction and it will get noticed.>>221036706>men sperg out when someone tries to speak slightly more frankly to them than they're used tomany such cases
>>221036644>Does not follow for either sex desu. You'll date many people over a lifetime, you'll fuck several at once at points, life goes onfemale centric view.the male perspective is: you'll date noone, you'll fuck noone, you'll love noone. There's an equal amount of men and women, that's a fact, your experience is irrelevant and just goes to show how clueless you are about what it means to be a man.(if you've been on the casual sex carousel odds are you'll know what being fucked in the male sense means eventually when you're splattered on the wall and you'll have to settle for a betabuxer to keep you company until you die while you reminisce of chad cock)>implying men have zero control here is equally retarded.on an individual level yes, not on a systemic level. foid your brain is simply not equipped to understand such things, i'm sorry.>If you're inundated by average, and can choose, you choose above average, simple as.does above average stick around, or does he leave to fuck someone else? protip: while you get with above average guy once a month, that guy fucks another chick every week. that's 3 guys that won't get to fuck that month. and i'm saying fuck, when i really mean love. i only care about LOVE. i wouldn't wash my ass for no casual sex having roastie.
>>221036800>female centric view.waow woman with female centric view, call the mf associated press>i only care about LOVE. i wouldn't wash my ass for no casual sex having roastie.dress for the job you want, not the one you have. You plant no seeds then whine that your garden does not grow, and whine>society didn't force someone to sow some seedsit never was going to and you would've floundered equally in any era where they did, you'd have been shrieking about the women who prefer the convents to fucking you if you lived in your golden past.
dumb broad:>use empathyalso dumb broad, to a bunch of incels:>You'll date many people over a lifetime, you'll fuck several at once at pointslmao
>>221036902pmuch anyone who fucks fucks more than once, you're retarded if you think otherwise
>>221036874>waow woman with female centric view, call the mf associated pressyou uttered as some sort of argument, not my fault.>You plant no seedsthat's right, i'm resolved to lifelong celibacy. this is the future, foid, is your anus prepared for what's gonna happen when more men are going to figure out the world is full of women like YOU, rather than humans they might actually be able to connect with on a non-superficial level, and they're better off being unwashed at home? there's no past here, only the future.hairy filthy anus, brown when i wipe it, even if i haven't taken a shit. i present it to you with pride.
>>221036874>waow woman with female centric view, call the mf associated pressyeah that's why anything you try to say can be summed up with a simple rebuttal.Tits or gtfo.
>>221036924yes, chad and foidS fuck more than once. 20% of guys and 99% of women fuck (true femcels out there you aight, not knocking on ya)
