What is one thing WW2 movies get wrong?
>>221027130the hall of cost
>>221027130Pearl Harbor sucked
They always forget about the parachuting clowns during D Day. My great grandfather served in the war and he told me it was the day the clown cried.
Churchill basically started the war
>>221027130americans being white
>>221027164I just don't get it, if people hate Churchill so much why don't they ever talk about him fucking up in the ottoman's in ww1 instead of making bullshit up like this?
>>221027130The always leave out the black nazis
>>221027192Because nobody cares about WWI
>>221027192but people do, what do you mean? He was a zio puppet in WW1 and he was a zio puppet in WW2
>>221027164how do you figure that?
>>221027130Hitler didn't kill himself, he escaped to Argentina.
>>221027130The good guys and the bad guys.
>>221027130all nazis being comicbook evil and sadistic
>>221027200
>>221027130not showing the brutally of the russians
Anyone using the word "nazi" since it didn't exist until after the war besides as a foreign term for bumpkin, the most tenuous of links.
>>221027130>What is one thing WW2 movies get wrong?everything about the western front. >>221027164churchill wasnt even in office for almost half of WW2, lmao. >>221027234there were no good guys in WW2 (well, maybe Poland), you will get it when you grow up.
>>221027164Weak bait
>>221027130that jews didn't deserve it
>>221027146aaand iii miss youuuuuu
>you will get it when you grow up.
Astro Boy and Godzilla are both based on Adolf Hitler. In fact, they are both sides of the same character designed by the same manga sensei chan.
>>221027130The US should make more pacific stuff where they actually did BTFO the Japanese single handedly. It's cringe when it's about invading western europe vs ragged conscripts and starving people.
>>221027257Daily reminder that not every German was a Nazi. In fact, all the smart people tried their best to get rid of Hitler once it was obvious the war on the Eastern front was lost.
>>221027358>read about the pacific>the japanese fleet was outdated as fuck, and actually really fucking small>the japs didnt even have a tank, their land army was literally just guys with sticksthere are good reasons why nobody wants to touch the pacific war.
>>221027130Main actors are almost always too old and often, too fat. Most soldiers in WW2 on all sides were conscripted teenagers and young adults below 25 years old. Due to the recent Great Depression, they were also scrawny and malnourished. In fact, many got their first square meal after being conscripted. During WW2, the only actors available were exempted older men who were out of shape. Later post war movies were made using fat or roided actors because society had degenerated.
>>221027282>brutality of the RussiansThere is at least one movie about the Katyn massacre but yeah I agree.
>>221027353>that jpegquite accurate, the nazis were ashkenazi.
>>221027396>Most soldiers in WW2 on all sides were conscripted teenagers and young adults below 25 years old.which twitter screenshot with no sources told you that hilarious dogshit?
>>221027130Has anyone just gone to Paris France without taking a picture in front of it? Even im guilty of doing so
>>221027396Average age for GIs was 26. You might be thinking of Nam
The allies identified and had more affinity for the Germans than they did for the Japs.
WW2 in America/American movies in general:- behavior of Nazis in occupied territories, At least on the western front, was mostly cordial. Paying inn keepers to use their buildings as barracks, having festivities where local towns people were invited, forming willing relationships with locals, etc. this doesn’t apply to the eastern front at all- the impact of the “French resistance” is meant to play up the French effort in the war because they were part of the western post WW2 hegemony, in reality should be more of a footnote and the average Frenchman didn’t really give a shit - western front in general. Go to mass German graves in that area and you’ll notice something. Most of the soldiers were teenagers or very young. The bigger focus was not Britain, Normandy, France, whatever but moving west so the more experienced soldiers went to that meat grinder- American influence on end of conflict. Obviously overplayed, but Stalingrad is much bigger to turning the war than D Day. Don’t want to downplay d day efforts at all though, but if you look at French citizen polling from the 40s to today on “who defeated the nazis” you’ll see the effect of the Western propaganda machine - nazi ambitions being global conquest or invading countries for the hell of it. Obviously they were the aggressor but their decisions were much more tactical in nature (needing resources) or out of spite (avenging WW1 humiliation) than global conquest The biggest what if imo from an American / Britain perspective is had Dunkirk failed and if the German advance there didn’t stall. Again not covered, but at the time the war in GB was very unpopular, Hitler, At least at the time, had no abortions to invade Britain, and had those soldiers not been evacuated there’s a good chance Britain is strong armed into a treaty, US never joins the war effort, Germany stops at the Atlantic and forces all efforts east
>>221027378At the start of the war, the IJN was cutting edge or at least at tech parity and battle proven compared to the USN. Numerically, they were almost equal to the US PACIFIC FLEET. The US had two fleets but only the Pacific Fleet was relevant to Japan. However, Japan had poor shipbuilding capacity due to having to import iron, rubber and petroleum. So, they can't replenish their losses fast enough. The US also later had access to BRITISH radar tech and basically stole/took it for free to equip their warships, giving superior accuracy vs the Jap older visual targeting system.
>>221027501thats pure rubbish, the IJN was barely afloat, outdated, horrible anti air systems (practically non existant anti air defense on their entire fleet), and the japanese land army was a complete joke.the more i read about the pacific war the more depressing it got for the japs.
>>221027488germany nad no capability to invade the british empire, the surface kriegsmarine ships were either sunk or hidden away, nothing to cover the landing barges. it would be a disaster that cost X million german lives and won nothing in the end.
>>221027488>look at French citizen polling from the 40s to today on “who defeated the nazis” you’ll see the effect of the Western propaganda machinecan you please tell me the results of the polls? this is intriguing and you seem really knowledgeable about it (even if you used "abortion" instead of "intention")
>>221027488>>221027589frenchfag here.let me explain.when WW2 ended in 1945, everybody on the planet knew that Russia won WW2. But then the american occupation of western europe started, and the propaganda brainwash slowly did its job, which you can see on the attached jpeg.
I just think it's ridiculous that Britain and France apparently have some right to meddle in central/eastern european affairs over uniting german lands with germany, and then complaining that german war against poland is the worst thing on earth, and meanwhile they each had worldwide colonial empires gained through wars of aggression.
The Allied invasion of Europe was not about stopping Nazism but it was to prevent the Communists from taking over all of Europe since they were already close to Germany at that point.Same thing happened when the US nuked Japan. It was just days after the Soviets started invading their territory
>>221027544us air defence on ships at the start of the war wasnt that good either, both sides refitted ships massively to where they had 10x the anti air guns at the end of the war then at the start
>>221027606thanks anon. this is very intriguing because i barely know anything about the USSR's involvement other than the Germans lost b/c of "russian winter". i guess I'm a victim of historical revisionism through omission. my schools never really discussed this at all.
>>221027606I wouldn't call it the US "winning the war", but if not for their involvement the French, Dutch, Belgians, Germans, and Italians would've just traded one brutal autocratic regime for another.
>>221027130They never mention that during World War II, both sides agreed to stop fighting every Wednesday for competitive knitting tournaments.
>>221027630Pretty much all the major fighting was on the eastern front. Norway, France, and the Balkans fell pretty much immediately, and the entire continent was locked down. The western allies were cucked and really couldn't do shit besides fuck around at sea or in the north african desert, and eventually try invading southern italy which just ground to a stalemate.
>>221027630>i barely know anything about the USSR's involvementrussia is pretty much 100% of WW2, so, not to sound like an ass, but you know 0% about WW2, then.
>Entire war starts because Brits and French declare war on Germany to protect Polish sovereignty >Soviets end up annexing Poland and half of Eastern Europe which is what the Nazis originally planned for Its beyond baffling once you connect the dots
>>221027630>>221027676>>221027682>1944 coming to an end>the western front DOESNT EVEN EXIST YET>russia is at shelling distance to berlinmodern education in schools fucking sucks.
>>221027688incorrect. the french and british were sick and tired of the germans shitting up europe since 1920, and gave them an ultimatum to shut the fuck up and sit down.>germans doubled down on shitting europe upcringe.
>>221027688It makes perfect sense when remember that their stated reasons and actual reasons are two separate things.They don't actually care about polish sovereignty, because they did not declare war on the USSR when they also invaded poland (nor did they declare on USSR when they strongarmed territory from romania/lithuania/latvia/estonia and went to war with finland)They also certainly don't care about punishing any wars of aggression or territorial expansion, when they themselves have participated in many wars of aggression, and have conquered the majority of the known world through such means.These things were always just feel-good justifications to market to the plebs. The actual reason is they were controlled by the jews, no different than America in the modern day
>>221027701>>1944 coming to an end>>the western front DOESNT EVEN EXIST YET
>>221027688there is nothing baffling about any of this, germany was acting like a rabid dog and had to be put down.
>>221027630Hitlers primary goal was always go east and expand “living land” for his German empire. People mention the two front war being dumb, but going east was the primary reason for the war to begin with.American media also focuses on how much Hitler hated Jews / the Holocaust. That is obviously correct, but not really taught as much as the disdain for the Slavs as well as Stalin in general. Hitler viewed the people of France and Great Britain almost as equals and believed they could co-exist in a future state, but the Slavs were basically viewed as animals and treated as such Russian winter was a factor sure but the sheer willpower on the eastern front as well as how many young men/boys were basically ordered to die to halt the Nazis can’t be understated. That conflict was going on for years before USA joined in at the end off the top ropeOne sleight of hand you’ll notice in American war movies is when something positive happens that Russia did, like take Berlin, it’s called “the allied forces”. A lot of our perception on the war is from Cold War spin
>>221027682i fully admit my ignorance in the matter
>>221027802was britain acting like a rabid dog that needed to be put down when they went to war with the boers?
>>221027834are there any sources that are non biased where i can read/watch and learn the truth without all the propaganda?
>>221027910>but what about africa
>>221027941>conquer half the world>NOOOOOOOO YOU CAN'T TAKE DANZIG WE WILL FIGHT TO THE LAST BRITON FOR IT!!!
>>221027930there isnt much propaganda (most of the propaganda was from holywood), really, just keep reading and asking questions. if you really want to enter a rabbit hole that will make your brain spin, research from who/from where the germans got all their money from.>ah shit>fucking seriouslyyeah.
>>221027930nothing is unbiased but for a general overview of ww2 you can look at anthony beevors book on ww2.tikhistory on youtube is pretty great for operational and strategic stuff.david glantz writes very factual but dry books mostly on the soviets and there's the official german history too
>>221027941we wuz kangaroos and sheet
>>221027963England wasn't shitting where it eats in that regard.
>>221027963who are you quoting?the british didnt give 2 flying fucks about what happens to danzig.
>>221027970let me guess...((((international bankers))))
>>221027974nice! thank you for the suggestions. will be checking those out when I'm done with work
>>221027993oh boy.thats just the start of the crazy rollercoaster ride.
>>221027930Bias is everywhere. As for doccos I have to recommend "The World at War"It's over 20 hours long and was made when they could still interview people that were there. Great classic narration too. I'm not a big enough history nerd to testify to it's amount of bias but it has class at the very least.
>>221028007hot tip, start with these:>bank of international settlements>the swiss banks >what happened to czechoslovak gold
>>221027963>DanzigAnd before that Austria, and Czechoslovakia, and Memel, and Hungary was basically Germany's ally, and Romania was already under German influence. And then came Poland which was the largest East European country outside of the Soviet Union.
>>221028008>neo in the jump program: woah...missed opportunity to end the rothschild lineage
>>221027130the good guys didn't win
>>221028049lets keep digging deeper.
>>221028034sounds like a fun rabbit hole. I became vaguely familiar with the BIS while researching the IMF & trying to understand the international banking cartel, but that was more through a conspiracy-lens instead of a historical-lens
French Resistence. It's in so many movies while being barely relevant.>sadistic Nazis I don't know why people constantly say that Hollywood portrays them like this. Outside of movies about the Holocaust, the Nazis aren't portrayed as especially evil. They are far worse in Italian movies.
>>221028082i was the opposite, i started with a historical lens looking at it, and i ended borderline schizo. the amount of important information about WW2 that is hidden on purpose in schools is sickening.
>>221028075that's so crazy. > sure we'll give you tons of loansproceeds to bomb the fuck out of them a few years later
>>221028037All German areas, what's the issue?
>>221028150it is pretty insane how jewish publishers were able to bend the truth so much
>>221028150>>221028315pretty much every schizo tinfoil theory was proven to be correct in the last few years.its crazy.
>>221027130WW1 and WW2 and all major wars were bought and paid for by the Federal Reserve. Also, it’s neither federal nor does it have any reserves. Bonus. The Civil War for decades upon decades was known as, The War of Northern Aggression.
>>221027130Probably said already but tl;dr, soThat America, or really any country, entered the war over concern for the human rights violations and genocide being committed by the Nazis.
>>221028075>>221028301the germans received A MOUNTAIN OF FREE MONEY to build their war machine that would be the equivalent of TRILLIONS OF DOLLARS today, its kinda obvious why the jews dont want us to know that.
>>221028304there was no issue but the germans had to start WW2 anyway.
>>221028392what was the real reason?
>>221028075what you need to wrap your head around is that loans between countries dont work like loans between people. very little actual money/stuff changed hands in these agreements.its mostly about the financial security these loans imply. if the americans loan you 1 billion dollars, you can in turn promise that money to domestic constructors to get the economy going in your own country. on the other hand having somebody on the hook for 1 billion dollars is good for the creditor as well, because you're now guaranteed a billion plus interest in the future. so in a way you already have guaranteed future money. Hitler promised this american money to german industrialists so his war economy could spin along.the assumption is always that countries like the US and germany will always exist and there will always be SOMEBODY in charge you can squeeze money from, even after a devastating war, even if "real" money barely changes hands. its about the implied meta stability of debt, it works the same way today.an IOU money is worth more than actually getting the money. its about risk management
>>221027164>>221027192>>221027219Both Hitler and Churchill were Zionist puppets. If you go back you can actually see who funded the Nazis after their "take over". Even Mein Kampf was published by a Freemason with Jewish ties BEFORE the National Socialists bought the publisher for their propaganda. Franco, Stalin, Mussolini, Hitler, Churchill, all propped up by Zionist money.
>>221028448>>221028362everything i was taught has turned out to be a lie
>>221028448By exaggerating Jewish influence so much you basically made them into some supermen that control all of history. It's such a silly thing to do.
>>221027365Yeah, actual Nazis were a low number compared to German soldiers who were the Wehrmacht. The SS were originally just the muscle of big Nazi leaders.
>>221028448how come these zionists could finance all sides with trillions of dollars but not prevent millions of their own getting slaughtered in the crossfire?almost as if your assumption about an all powerful puppetmaster is horseshit.
>>221028478For example? Maybe you're just a schizo because you were brainwashed by twitter Nazis. Generally speaking the history of WW2 is pretty well known.
>>221027130Everything
>>221028490
The allied powers were pathetic jew cowards.
>>221028498"holocaust" means "burned offering" btw
>>221028531>reasonable argument against my position? YOU MUST BE A JEW!its pointless to even talk to schizos like you
>>221027130Apparently today the whole thing was about Jews and extermination camps. When in reality nobody cared about Jews, and the word holocaust doesn't appear until the mid-50's.
>>221027130they leave out the jews' attempt in the early 20s to take over germany, as well as the conditions those jews imposed on the weimar republic
>>221027606>>221027834Yeah but the Russians were originally in league with the Nazis to take over Europe and divide it. It's also a fact that the people who declared Hitler had killed himself WERE the Russians, who were never to be trusted because of their communist dog beliefs.
>>221028498They were basically sacrificed. Most rich "Jews" left for America or England years before the war, some in France. Some even went to Mexico. The rest were left behind. The first big Zionist conference was in the 1880s or some shit so they had a lot of time to plan WW1 and WW2.
>>221027606I don't dispute that but it's foolish to ignore american material contributions to the USSR, or the fact that britain only declared war on germany for invading poland, and not ussr, and even left poland in the ussr's control after the war.
>>221027215I do it just doesnt have the material for interest as 2, feels like the last war where tactics could be boiled down to sending large numbers of boys to the grinder
>>221028498>millions of their own getting slaughteredyeah
>>221028583Seems like they also forget to mention that no one supported Hitler's or Kapp's right wing putsch and that Nazis were less popular than the communists for most of Weimar history.
>>221027130Portraying the holocau$t as a non-fictional event.
>>221027464Less than 1/3rd of US troops in Vietnam were drafted, dumbfuck. Shut your drooling tard mouth and stick to your weed and coon tunes.
>>221028075>>221028402>>221028435>>221028636>"In 1935, GM agreed to build a new plant near Berlin to produce the aptly named "Blitz" truck, which would later be used by the German army for its blitzkreig attacks on Poland, France and the Soviet Union. German Ford was the second-largest producer of trucks for the German army after GM/Opel, according to U.S. Army reports,” (Dobbs, 1998, para. 17). Not only did the American automakers produce trucks for the German army, but they also provided large quantities of strategic raw materials (Dobbs, 1998, para. 18). As the war approached, and due to an intense pressure from Berlin, the American automakers had to cooperate closely with the Nazi regime (Dobbs, 1998, para. 19). Hence, when the war broke out in 1939, the American automakers, GM and Ford, became extremely crucial to the German army (Dobbs, 1998, para. 22).https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ford_Germany#Ford-Werke_AG_later_Ford-Werke_GmbHamerican jews literally built and funded the entire german war machine.
>>221028636kiddo, go back to school and re-read the whole thread, thanks.
>>221028756It's a fact that jews in Britain used its "alliance" with Poland as an opportunity to crush Germany, not to defend the Polish, whom they eagerly sacrificed to the Russians.
>>221028490found the jew
>>221028507i was specifically referring to WWII and the financing aspect (which was the discussion at hand further up). nobody taught me any of that in school and i feel manipulated and lied to via omission.
>>221027146It was not one of Affleck’s strongest movie’s that’s for sure
>>221028583yes correct. Weimar Republic hedonism is never discussed in American schools. i had to seek that information out on my own
>>221027130The Nazis
>>221029575This is funny considering the Nazi party was degenerate as fuck full of faggots, pedophiles and whoremongers.
>>221027130Why is it illegal to question the holocaust?
>>221029712where can i read more about that?
>>221029022no thats not a fact.in fact - thats retarded dogshit.
>>221029575>>221029712>>221029881>Weimar Republic hedonism is never discussed in American schools. thats because modern america is literally a copy/paste of Weimar Germany. >total moral bankruptcy, degeneracy and sexual hedonismGod forbid the americans were told what happened next.
>>221027130America being the good guys
>>221027130that the good guys lost ww2
>>221030225there were good guys in ww2?
>>221027130the sheer sense of scale and speed. who covers a boy in the wermacht on the eastern front, in english? who tries to humanize the soldiers? and you’ll never get a depiction of hitler thats even close to who he was or his rise because of the hall of cost (ignore every other european nation and america who did similar if not worse shit). ww2 was the logical, grusome conclusion of 2300 years of european politics and doctrine
>>221030309ww2 was extremely easy to avoid.>an austrian jewish painter ruined everythingto the surprise of nobody.
>>221027630The scale of fighting on the eastern front is difficult to even imagine, it dwarfs literally every other conflict in human history.>inb4 chinanot even a quarter the scale
>>221027164He had a weird obsession with the dardanelles, greece and the balkans. He had to forcefully be convinced that a major allied counterattack had to be in Normandy rather than Greece/Yougoslavia. He also wanted to attack Turkey and reclaim Tripoli kek
>>221030114>We have to defend Poland, our ally!>Thus, we declare war on Germany for invading Poland!>And we ally ourselves with Russia, who also invaded Poland!>And we leave Poland under Russian occupation after the war is "won"!It's a fact, jew.
>>221029575Back in the 90s we got a few mentions of the hyperinflation but I wouldn't be surprised if they left that out too considering our dollar is rapidly becoming funny money like Germany's did.>>221029712You're jewish.
>>221028498Holocaust was exaggerated. And Hitler helped the future formation of Israel with the Haavara agreement which had a shit ton of the richest, most influential and tough jews relocate to Palestine. The jews that did die during the Holocaust were basically the dregs of society even among jews themselves.
>>221030400>He had to forcefully be convinced that a major allied counterattack had to be in Normandy rather than Greece/Yougoslavia.and Churchill was right, of course. combining forces with the USSR and invading together from the balkans would be much better than cutting europe in half - america occupies the west and russia gets the other half. the entire Cold War nonsense couldve been avoided if people listened to Churchill.
>>221030424who are you quoting, moshe?the british and french were sick and tired of the germans shitting up europe for 20 years straight, and rabid dog had to be put down.
>>221030424You have very childish understanding of geopolitics.
>>221027130The Germans didn't have enough coke to burn six million concentration camp prisoners. The films never raise this point. It is an obvious attempt to deceive the public and hide the truth that the six million Jewish victims were disappeared on underground rail carts that poured them into a deep underground lava lake.
>>221030436Hyperinflation had nothing to do with Hitler coming to power. At the peak of hyperinflation Hitler staged his putsch and no one joined him. Immediately after hyperinflation Nazi party got 2.7% votes.
>>221030455>>221030458Pilpul all you like, the British "alliance" with poland was a flimsy excuse to do the bidding of the City of London's jews and destroy Germany. Poland wasn't even a sacrifice to those jews - they were elated to see another European nation crushed under the heel jewish bolshevism.
>>221027606>frenchfag>can't even read the french in his own agitprop picget droned hivdog
>>221030485My point was merely that outside of a couple of mentions of the weak German currency, the Weimar republic was glossed over. No mentions of the jewish attempted takeover in 1919, no mention of the trannyism or mother-daughter whoring the jews pushed on the goyim, no mention of the open air brothel they turned Berlin into. We were of course taught that Germans turned jews into soap and lampshades, and that Hitler had brown eyes, and other falsehoods of that kind.
>>221027130That 90% of them are about D-Day. It was a _world_ war.
>sign treaty to defend Poland SPECIFICALLY from Germany>Poland gets gangbanged by Germany and Russia>only declare war to GermanyNice "allies" you have there.
>>221027622wrong as usual commietroon, the russians invaded on the last day they were obligated to as per the terms of the massive and life-saving american aid they got earlier in the war
>>221028093>They are far worse in Italian moviesPolish movies. (^:
>>221030583Precisely, it was a treaty to destroy Germany, not to defend Poland. The City of London had became the hub of European jewry centuries earlier.
>>221027501>>221027544The Japanese military was modern for 1937. By 1942 their stuff was outdated and they didn't modernize anything.
>>221030611We were robbed of a triangular ww2, it would have been kino af.>germany & Japan vs Russia vs western allies
>>221027544>and the japanese land army was a complete jokeThe IJA was all in China, we never really fought them just their marine outfits. However the Soviets obviously destroyed them in the invasion of Manchuria.
>>221030436Nazis were actual kleptomaniacs. Think wwe meets politics. They started off as Alex jones level trolls, created fake backstories, and were seen as general jokes. It caught traction as shit got worse, everyone thought they were joking and clowns until it was too late. They seized minorities shit and threw around bullshit accusations and then created insane amounts of debt, which they never planned to pay off so they started invading places they owed some money too or gave them liquidity meanwhile Hitler and the top group devolved into pharmaceutical drug addicts remember meth was still acceptable. His heath started crashing around 1936-1938 by 1941-1942 he would be termed mentally handicapped the damage was so severe. You can’t spend a decade on meth, heroin, Proto fent, cocaine, eating rabbit food. Hitler and most of the leadership was on some drug. It’s the same script. Get money by accusing a minority of something usually sexual degeneracy and theft “They are sending murderors thieves drug addicts and rapists, Mexico isn’t sending their best” sub it in with a “Jewish terrorist group” that doesn’t exist That’s how Con artist work, murder, rape theft, drug usage big 4.
>>221030424meanwhile churchill draws up plans for operation unthinkable and gives them to roosevelt>>221028708this is going to blow your mind but Henry Ford was a vehement anti-semite and was not only admired by the nazis but likely even an inspiration for their movement
>>221027930intelslava z has a lot of information that the western media does not want you to see
>>221030539There wasn't any Jewish attempted takeover. There was a communist one. The same guys that ruled afterwards put it down - socialists from SPD. >no mention of the trannyism or mother-daughter whoring the jews pushed on the goyim, no mention of the open air brothel they turned Berlin into. This is just sensationalist garbage. Berlin remained the most anti-Nazi, pro-socialist/communist place in Germany until Nazi takeover. This is not history, this is /pol/ idiocy. People didn't vote for Hitler because there were brothels in Berlin.
Hitler was a dupe for the Prussian military caste who had had plans since the previous century for conquest and colonization of the east.
>>221030671You are jewish, so I'm not interested in reading that.
>>221030671I should say “Murder, sexual degeneracy, theft and drug addictions”It’s the big 4 of con artists who want attention which they convert to power or prestige or cash. Goebbels even talks about it.
>>221030504>>221030583>>221030611>>221030652it was in british and french interest (european interest in general) to get rid of the german warmongering and destabilisation of europe. based france and british empire.
>>221030717You know this is a honey pot thread. Get people to say extremist bullshit. If you don’t know now you do. Mods are here.
>>221030687>There was a communist one.Yes, that's what I said. jewish.>talking about what jews actually did is /pol/Okay Magnus Hirschfeld. Aren't your late for a metzitzah pbeh?
>>221030309>ww2 was the logical, grusome conclusion of 2300 years of european politics and doctrineIt is what happens when you have 20th century technology and population sizes in a country ruled by people who still have 13th century ideologies.
>>221030708There was a really cool docu I saw as an early teen about the guy who propped up Hitler. It was a guy and his son, when things got ugly after Hitler seized power and started to go off rails they were forced to run and barely escaped assassination.
>>221030744>surrender vast swathes of europe to commie jewsso stable>based empiresgave up their empires, and homelands to brown migrantsYou're jewish.>>221030745There's nothing extreme about basic reality. All jews hate Europeans and all of their actions in positions of power are to the detriment of Europeans.
>>221030777I’m guessing you might be a mod or an idiot.
>>221030680america pretty much funded and built the entire german war machine, its actually quite incredible how much jewish money was funneled into germany to turn them into a gigantic tank and bomber factory. >and then adolf personally ordered to send Rothchilds away to america to survive the war in total safety in new yorkthats great, adolf, thanks.
>>221030777thats the think, sweetie - if they listened to churchill, the commies wouldnt get any swathes of land.
That the Wehrmacht were invincible super soldiers or that German technology was 10 years ahead of everyone else.
>>221030794Maybe you live in a 100% jewed country like the UK where basic speech isn;t legal, but in my country (the US) we're only 90%-95% jewed, so we're still allowd to say basic truths like "all jews hate Europeans."
In hindsight Germans really fucked up by voting for Hitler. Germany was perfectly able to dominate Europe economically. Western Germany alone was one of the richest European countries. This war wasn't needed.
>>221030811Churchill continued the policy of no peace with England. The allies material support of the Russians, as well as their distraction of a significant amount of German'y war material, is why the Russians were able to win in the east. Churchill was a fat alcoholic philosemite golem.
>>221030794>the mods are nazisThis is a pretty insane inversion of reality, you must be completely new here.
>>221027378The largest tank battle in the Asian theater was Japanese tanks being used against the Chinese in Ichi-gohttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Ichi-Go
France collapsed 1940 out of cowardice when they deliberately laid down since they knew they couldn't survive another 1 million young men dead or wounded.
>>221030837which twitter screenshot told you that dogshit?
>>221030840Brazen falsehoods without obvious markers of esl are posted by jews or their intel golems. They thrive in an environment of confusion.
>>221030812Hasn't happened in ages, the new narrative is that every nazi was a meth addicted tranny, jewish, missing a testicle, etc
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>>221030847>>221030812the German conquests of Europe were mostly because everyone laid down and didn't really fight. if they had put up any resistance the drain on Germany's resources would have been huge.
>>221030522>Poll in France: in your opinion, which country contributed the most to Germany’s defeat in 1945?>1945 : 57% USSR, 20% USA, 12% Brits>1994: 25% USSR, 49% USA, 16% Brits>2004: 20% USSR, 58% USA, 16% BritsWhat do you mean? Let's not forget that in 1945, the French Communist Party was the first party in local municipal elections (26.2% commy, 23,5 SFIO socialists and 23.9% for social-democrats (Gaullists fanbois).In the end, we just traded some propaganda for some other propaganda.
>>221030856Which part are you disagreeing with? Churchill did decline peace with Germany, the allies did provide significant material aid to Russia aiding greatly in their mobilization, and Germany winning in the east was within the realm of possibility and would've been much more possible if it was their only front. Are you just vaguely and smugly saying "nuh uh" and refusing to elaborate like a demoralized golem? A jew would engage in more vigorous and insulting pilpul.
>>221030812There were certain things like tape recording they had and the US did not, but for the most part nobody else on the planet matched American industrial, logistics, or tech capability.
>>221030887Damn man, it's a miracle France didn't immediately devolve into a commie civil war after it got liberated, given that the only thing commies hate more than democracy is commies of slightly different flavors
common meme: Germany wasted time and manpower invading the Balkans/Greece and delayed Operation Barbarossa until summerreality: the invasion of the Balkans was a strategic necessity to cover that region against an Allied invasion
>>221030894Why would anyone agree to a peace with Germany? The whole goal was to stop Germany from becoming a European hegemon. Hitler also broke his earlier promises proving he's not to be trusted.
>>221027488The French Resistance still had several hundred thousand people.It also involved a large portion of the post-WW2 French intellectual elite.It was definitely the place to be for any left-leaning literate Frenchman.
>>221030894the german niggers were actually gobbling up entire countries and nations, they shouldve been invaded way before 1939.
>>221030961Alright, so again, which part were you disagreeing with? You're now saying WHY something I said happened happened, when previously you said that it didn't happen at all. Let's get the goalposts back where they started.
>>221030996I'm a different person.
>Britain and France declare war on Germany for invading Poland on September 1st 1939>Britain and France never declare war on the Soviet Union for invading the other half of Poland 2 weeks laterI sure hope someone got fired for that blunder
>>221031036Fair enough, my mistake.
The fighting in Burma is the most forgotten theater of the war.
>>221030996everything you know about churchill and ww2 is a twitter meme, whats wrong with you?
>>221027834>American media also focuses on how much Hitler hated Jews / the Holocaust. That is obviously correct, but not really taught as much as the disdain for the Slavs as well as Stalin in general. Hitler viewed the people of France and Great Britain almost as equals and believed they could co-exist in a future state, but the Slavs were basically viewed as animals and treated as suchin Mein Kampf it's apparent that Hitler considers Jews and Slavs to be one and the same
>>221027130Thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l4FeyONCtfc
>>221031040why would france and british declare war on russia? it would be the most retarded tactical and strategic decision in human history. germany first, russia later.
>>221031040They declared war on Germany on September 3rd. First they issued an ultimatum that they will declare war if Germany won't withdraw. This was basically ignored by the Germans.
>>221027130Italian soldiers weren't especially cowardly or incompetent. They suffered from poor military command and severe equipment shortages.>While there is no disputing Italy suffered several heavy defeats in World War II, in recent decades it has become more common for historians to present the Italian soldier as someone who was plunged into bad (even hopeless) situations, with obsolescent equipment and inadequate logistics; and certainly not as lacking personal courage.[145] In a despatch on the Tunisian campaign, General Alexander wrote, "...the Italians fought particularly well, outdoing the Germans in line with them" during the battles in April 1943.[146] Gerhard Weinberg said in a lecture on myths of World War II that "there is far too much denigration of the performance of Italy's forces during the conflict".[147]
>>221031101When did Britain and France end up declaring war on the Soviet Union and fighting them like they did Germany in 1939?
>>221031110mussollini stated a hundred times that italy will be ready for a war not early than 1944, and hitler knew that, and started WW2 anyway in 1939 - italy was pretty much disarmed in 1939.italy is not to blame for anything here, in fact they fucked off from the dumbass germans as fast as they could.
>>221031110Italy cannot into technology, they're a nation of artists not engineers.
>>221030539my boomer parents still believe that Nazis were burning bibles instead of tranny porn paraphernalia
>>221031124are you asking a question or what? why would france and british declare war on russia? it would be the most retarded tactical and strategic decision in human history.germany first, russia later.the "russia later" part actually started in 1945.it was called the Cold War.open a history book, it should be there. >the russians are seething at the british up to this daybased brits. go read a book, son.
>>221031101>france and britishjeets have arrived
>>221031166italy can extremely into technology. italy didnt get 9000 trillion free dollars from american jews, like germany did.
>>221031180You said "Germany First, Russia later"I am asking when is that later dateWhen did they actually have that fight with Russia for the sake of Poland?
>>221031209>I am asking when is that later dateits in the post. are you pretending to be blind? retarded?or both?
>>221031166Italy's history in automobiles, firearms, and aviation is world class.This strange essentializing of Southern Europe only ever cuts one way. No German or Brit would accept being described as a scientific people that can't do art.
>>221031209>x lateris a jew's way of saying "You're not getting what you want, now give me what I want." jews wanted Germany destroyed. They were happy to see Poland crushed by jewish bolsheviks.>>221031218>we totally freed Poland, honoring our alliance, by letting them languish under communist dictatorship for several generations until that government dissolved without military action by us
>>221030777TRIPS OF TRUTH
>>221031218Looking through the historical data I don't see any Russian cities being bombed by British or French airpower like Germany was bombed in 1944 and 1945.I'm not seeing any major tank battles like Kursk I'm not seeing a fall of Moscow to British and French troops.It seems like when I told my Mom I would play video games now and do my homework later, and then I just never did my homework
>>221031166Retarded post. I don't know of any nation that ever excelled in one field without the other. When intelligence flourishes, both engineering and art do as well.
>>221031156He's pretty accurate in that pic. Despite inventing fascism and fascism existing in Italy for far longer than in Germany, everyone associates fascism with its specifically German incarnation. Not to say that Italian fascism was great either, but that race purity was 100% a German thing. Italian writers were mad about their bloated aristocracy holding the country back.
>>221031110Italy had not been a nation all that long, it was assembled from numerous mini-states with diverse military traditions. So was Germany but Prussian military culture was quickly imposed on the whole country. Italy had no such thing.
>>221031248Germany allied with the Soviets would most likely win. They weren't retarded. They didn't know about the secret part of Ribbentrop-Molotov pact.
>>221027130I know the pacific theater isn’t something Hollywood likes to touch up on but they really should. Reading about it and listening to Dan Carlin’s Hardcore History, it was an absolute horror show and I can say with certain the Japanese were batshit insane. How Japan and the US became very close allies after WW2 boggles my mind. Everyone wants to talk about the bombs but no one wants to talk about the Nanjing Massacre
I'm so glad Nazi Germany lost. Seeing all these crybaby Whites fills my Indian heart with joy.
>>221030328he was a lightning rod for a nation that felt like it had just suffered incalculable loss only to be further punished for the behavior of its elite at the hands of the victors. the behavior of french politicians was a fucking joke
>>221031235>>221031248the british were extremely based and smart with WW2.they just sat back and watched as 26 mln russians died destroying 80% of the german army and in the end managed to save half of europe. based brits.
>>221031396i know. my grandfather was in the Philippines invasion in 1944. he saw a guy from his unit step on a mine and explode about ten feet from him.
>>221031274fascism was sabotaged by the ashkenazi on purpose, adolf couldve used a butthurt german population to start WW2 with or without fascism.
>>221031396They have no hard feelings against us, more just disappointment that we didn't let them finish China off.
>>221031458>start war>lose everything>get saved by Americans>shithole ever sinceBravo bongs
>>221031458I don't think they were, mate.
Most blame for atrocities was deliberately shifted onto Germans by the Allies, but it overlooks the fact that their Eastern European allies were far worse. The Ukrainian nationalists, Ustashe, Arrow Cross, etc did absolutely nightmarish stuff that even the SS found hard to take.
>>221031509bongs were 100% mega winners of WW2, it went to shit somewhere around 2000 (after 9/11), right when america ALSO turned to shit. its all connected. brits won WW2 super fucking hard. based brits.
>>221031541>it went to shit somewhere around 2000 (after 9/11), right when america ALSO turned to shit.>its all connected....to the global jewish hegemony that the British helped establish during WW2
>>221031534the Germans odd as it sounds thought genocide should be as clean and sterile as possible, they conceived the gas chambers as a humane way of conducting it. however many of their Slav allies were more like the Japanese where they just tortured and massacred people with no fucks given.
Jews started the war
>>221031630Isn't it true that Adolf Hitler went to a concentration camp precisely once, and was made sick by the encounter and never went again?
>>221031663I think it was Himmler.
>>221030611Why would they declare war on USSR? They had already waged war on USSR and failed by supporting the Tsarists in the civil war.
>>221031724So, Gene Simmons's mother was from Hungary. She was the only survivor out of her family, the rest were all killed.
>>221031423britain should have wiped you and your people off the the entire planet
>>221031784If they wanted to defend Poland, they would've declared war on the USSR. My only point is that their sole interest was in destroying Germany. "Defending Poland" was an excuse.
>Chinese nationalist massacre communist and practically take control of the country>with Japan knocking on Chinas door, remaining communist leaders beg Nationalist leaders to focus on Japan>Nationalist wiped out defending China to the last man>communism takes overit’s retrospect, the way the communist took over China comes off as very cowardly, I don’t know how only can sympathize with these rats.
>>221031813Do you actually think you're replying to a jeet? God, you faggots are retarded
>>221031614if adolf the retard didnt start ww2 there would be no problem at all.
>>221031534Deliberate, yes. Both the US and Britain and the Soviets did that and for reasons of Cold War geopolitics covered up the Eastern European countries' complicity in atrocities.
>>221031839Don't you know the plan was Germany Now and the Soviet Union later.Just don't ask when Britain and France made war with the Soviet Union "later"
>>221031839>>221031784of course, the most logical strategic decision.based brits.
>>221031873>Just don't ask when Britain and France made war with the Soviet Union "later"its called the "Cold War", and it was kino as fuck.
>>221031724too bad it wasn't 100%
>>221031854go die in a fire pajeet
>>221031879>surrender the vast material resources of half of europe to your enemy so that you can engage in decades of warfare and become a US vassal, surrendering your empireMany strategy sir! Good british policy yes!
>The regime of Ion Antonescu in Romania actively and enthusiastically backed the Holocaust--this was helped by the fact that anti-Semitism was widespread there. Romanian Jews had not been an established community that long, most had moved there following the late 19th century pogroms in Russia. Jews owned many of the moneylending outfits, country taverns, gold, and tinsmithing outfits in Romania and they tended to just view the place as a moneymaking opportunity with few having any interest in Romanian history or culture, or even bothering to learn the language, leading to considerable hurt feelings.>The Antonescu regime began deporting Jews in 1941 and did so at such a rapid rate that Berlin asked them to slow down, they couldn't keep up with the influx. By 1943, as it was apparent that the war was going against Germany, Bucharest began slowing down and ultimately halting deportations, but not before nearly half of Romanian Jews had perished in the Holocaust.
>>221031923Uh, oh! Timmy having a melty due to Hitler losing to superior Indians in WW2.
>hitler takes back old clay>bongs says stop that>hitler says mind yo bsns>bongs start ww2
>>221031985ok wait, Romania was deporting Jews to Berlin? why?
>>221031999i hate you so much
>>221030981>The French Resistance still had several hundred thousand peopleIn 1946?Before 1944 they were 63k and 73k at the end of the war.Only 15 423 joined 1940.
>>221031999what a waste of digits
>>221032066Cry about it, not my fault some schizo thinks I'm a jeet because I called him a retard.
>>221032020not him but is English not your first language? oh wait of course not it's probably Punjabi. obviously he's using the capital name as shorthand for the country.
>>221027130Alofthehallalacaust
>>221031985>Romanians are bumblefuck 80 IQ peasants>need Jews to run all their businesses for them>this is unfair, they'll have to go
>>221032092> I'm so glad Nazi Germany lost. Seeing all these crybaby Whites fills my Indian heart with joy.gee i wonder why he thinks you're a jeet
>>221032098I'm way too high for this shit... i just wanna know where the jews went after being deported from Romania. why are you even responding if you don't know?
>>221032151My post was >>221031854 and yeah, replying to an obvious shitpost makes you a retard.
>>221032183ok that's fair. i am pretty retarded after all.
>>221032132have you ever been to Romania? it's a little slice of Africa in Europe.
>>221032252I went once. The company I was working for used romanian women for secretary tier work (to add stuff from written documents to a databse). Mostly friendly hotties who can drink loads of alcohol.
>>221032012none of that happened.also, the nazi-jews started ww2.
>>221027282Oy vey goyim quit the antisemitism or my mohel will pay you a visit
>>221027192He should have been hanged in public for Gallipoli
>>221027378>>221027378We still need a movie about Samar/Leyte gulf and the Night Action of Guadalcanal. The moment where South Dakota just gets in gunery range and suddenly loses all power and gets the entire jap fleet raining shells on it would be peak cinema.
I named my son Winston after Churchill. I hope he dabs on Nazis in the same way.
>>221027802Found the jew
>>221032585Churchill was a racist and the left took his statue downTrump put one up though
>>221032582Samar and Leyte Gulf in general would be kino as fuck.
>>221032430the levels of chutzpah are getting otherworldly
>>221030241Killing jews makes you a good guy?
>>221027130Stalin won. Like personally. Like he went to Berlin and won. Only one movie gets this right.
>>221032662based Trump dabbing on Nazis
>>221031534the Ustashe were mostly anti-Serb than anti-Jew--there was a tiny Jewish community in Yugoslavia although it was almost instantly wiped out during the occupation of the country.
>>221031857England and France started the war though.
