what’s his most despicable act?
let his daughter date a black jew
>>221028715this zoomer missed an entire story arc…
>>221028761>t. tyrone yakubstein
>>221028617raping skyler
>>221028617Cheating on Carmella. Sexhavers are disgusting.
>>221028617Christopher is the first thing that comes to mind though Christopher was despicable himself so probably something to someone innocent. They way he could destroy a friend's life in Davey, even if he's a degenerate gambler, is pretty despicable. Also his inability to let others be happy. Ruining Irina's chance at happiness was pretty lowdown, especially after he'd disposed of her. Then fucks her sister to boot.
>>221028617letting vito get wacked because >muh politicsimagine giving up your biggest money maker because of fag shit. you cant call yourself tough when you fold that easy
I dunno, maybe attempting to kill his own mother?
>>221028617Molesting AJ offscreen
>>221028912Killing Christopher was his only good deed though.
>>221029002before or after she tried to off him?
>>221028617If he hadn't suffocated Chris, would he have died anyway?
let's talk about that gabagool...
>>221028617The hypocrisy
mishandling of the imported provolone
Getting a blowjob from Adrianna before crashing his car
>>221029104From memory the doctor alluded to Carmela that Christopher was very unlucky to die from choking on his blood and likely would've made it had he not so he probably had a reasonably high likelihood of surviving if Tony just called the ambulance straight away.
>>221028617Completely butchering or mispronouncing simple Italian words.
not smashing Annalisa
>>221028912>Then fucks her sister to bootthey´re cousins I think
>>221028912>destroy a friend's life in Davey, even if he's a degenerate gambler, is pretty despicable.This one for sure.He let Davey get in way over his head and in Tony's mind because he "warned him," that made it okay.
Gambling Vito's Jr money away
>>221030715Ah, that's right. Still egregious after he screwed her out of being Zellman's trophy wife.
>>221029381Good Morning Sir
>>221030754This was pretty fucked up. Obviously the kid was a fucking mess, but he might've straightened himself out in a new place, and instead Tony sent him to Midwest fundamentalist molestation camp
>>221028795r/whooosh
Beautiful fresh sub sandwich. Straight in the trash. AND DON'T DENY IT!
>>221028967I'd like to say that was merely business, but you're right. Putting Chrissy out of his misery was way less despicable than this
Mocking Janice to trigger herShe was trying to be a better person and he couldn’t stand it
>>221028617Killing christopher
>>221030754>>221031353Fuck that kid, he was fucked. The camp might be his only chance at being normalStill, the boss is supposed to take care of the families of his guys even after they are dead, which tony doesnt give a shit about
neglecting his children
>>221031909>can't handle bantzno way she'd change
>>221028617The way he treated Georgie was absolutely fucked. George literally never did anything wrong and yet was always copping beatings for asinine shit like bringing a fish toy into the Bing, throwing away melting ice, saying you've got to live for the day, or whatever's triggering Tony's subconscious that week.
>>221030679Or that real estate chick, then having to watch him simp for her after she already started banging Chrissy
>>221028967He didn't "let" Vito get whacked at all. Phil just took the initiative once he realized Vito was back in town.
>>221031976Exactly, its juat another instance of them not giving a shit. Tony sells Johnny's house and businesses and its implied Ginny will get nothing.
>>221028715This desu
>>221029040not canon >>221031909absurd position, Janice was a genuinely repulsive person
>>221033575Yeah but she did change her ways and even had a family
>>221031976If Tony was smart he would have taken care of his guys to at least give them incentive not to rat/want him dead
>>221028617throwing that delicious sandwich in the trash after only taking one bite
>>221033415Tony was planning to have Carlo take care of it. Phil overstepped.
Eating cake in bed
>>221028912He should've killed Christopher way earlier on. Making a volatile junkie a Captain was his true gravest mistake, hence why he felt so much relief when Chrissy was finally dead.
>>221034683I did didnt
>>221032044It wasn't "bantz", he saw her actually making progress and deliberately dragged her back into the mud because it made him feel better about being a miserable fat crook. Same shit as when he couldn't handle anyone else being happy for five seconds.
>>221028617>ctrl+f 'pepper ann'>0 results foundDon't tell me you're getting soft on me /tv/
>>221028912Chris was lucky to make it as far as he did
>>221031976Well he gave money to Pussys's wife
>>221028715fpbp
>>221033443
>>221036160based 50
>>221036228Women who associate with rap culture get what they deserve as they age.
>>221028617Tempted to say killing Ralphie, after his kid became a vegetable and he's doing a great job of expressing that he did NOT kill Pie-O-My. Of course, he likely did kill the whore-s, and was a complete scumbag, worse than most of the guys. idk, hard to say what T's worst act was. Killing Ade was awful, but etc. >>221028715sometimes /tv/ is kinda based
>>221028617When he embarrassed his uncle in that baseball game. Junior was ashamed to face his friends.
>>221035470AND WE'RE GONNA DO KARATE TOGETHER AND I DON'T NEED THIS FUCKIN SHIT
>>221034683>Making a volatile junkie a Captain was his true gravest mistakeSupporting Chrissy beyond the rank of "soldier" was one of Tony's worst mistakes. Chrissy demonstrated over and over from the get go he didn't have the maturity or intelligence to do mob-crime stuff beyond low level enforcement. Tony was fucking retarded for expecting Chris to rise to the level of perhaps replacing him. "You only trust your blood" lmao I can't remember how T and Chrissy are related, some double-cousin magic Italian-American bullshit, which, even if they are, Chrissy still shouldn't be anywhere near a decision-making position. If Chris maintained sobriety 100% and worked hard, I could see him being a captain after 5-7 years of consistent experience doing well, but that's the limit of his potential and he'd have to be sober and truly organized and mature all the time, which was impossible for age 30-something Chris.
>>221036416>lmao I can't remember how T and Chrissy are relatedHis "you only trust your blood" line is especially ironic considering Chrissy was Carmela's cousin and they weren't actually related by blood
>>221028617Fucking dogs
>>221036504they were though, that huwar explained that he was both kristuhphers uncle and cousin, cause Tony Soprano refers to Christopher Moltisanti as his "nephew," but they are actually **first cousins once removed** through Tony's wife, Carmela. Christopher's mother is a first cousin to Carmela, making their relationship more distant than it appears.
>>221035041You’re genuinely stupid
>>221028617Getting Meadow pregnant has to be up there. If you're going to fuck your daughter, have the decency to do it up the ass to save her that trauma honestly
>>221028617extorting the T-1000 and destroying his marriage
>>221028617Not killing Vito for being a faggot.
>>221028617dying immediately before starring in "The Night Of..." opposite Riz Ahmed. we got John Tuturro instead, Jimmy would have been amazing in that role.
>>221036228Holy fucking kek
>>221036732idk, anon might be on to something. Tony did seem like he might be breaking Janice's collected manner to make himself feel better, or at least to "prove" to himself that she's not more mature than he is. Why is it stupid to think that that's part of what T is doing?
>>221028617Jerking off in his kitchen and making Carmela clean it up. Gooney soprano is one sick fuck.
>>221036228brutal recktoning
>>221028617Expecting smoked deli turkey out of nowhere after coming home drunk. What a fucking asshole.>I wanta little smoked turkeyCarm should've initiated divorce proceedings the very next day. Also, riding a horse through the living room is no bueno.
>>221036228https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LuGaDjX9cn8
>>221028617That time he broke AJ's skateboard and called him a faggot who doesn't even know how to do a kick flip.
>>221037299Did this really happen
>>221037413well, every guy jerks off in the kitchen from time to time, whether it's in the sink, the floor, or maybe right on the table, so Tony definitely did it a few times. I like to try to make it to the half-bath before I ejac though.
>>221028617Fucking the Russian with one leg, disgusting.
>>221037413Its real
>>221028617all the cunnilingus
>>221029407Just call it "racetrack" Mr fancy pants...
The man harbors a faggot!
Not getting rid of Ralphie sooner.
>>221036674All this tells me is that Tony and Carmela incestous.
>>221037442He'd fuck a catcher's mitt.
>>221028715My answer was good.Yours was better.
>>221037531What would be the best way to deal with Ralphie after he killed Tracee? I'd say not hit him, then maybe banish him to Florida for six-12 months, like "probation" and force him not to do any hard drugs and totally refocus on his "job." ofc Ralphie wouldn't do that 100%, but it'd be a start. Killing him outright wouldn't be the worst thing to do, but he was generally smarter/better at running a crew/making money than most of the others.
>>221031909Janice had to have the shit beat out of her by Russians because she stole someone's prosthetic leg, took as a calling to find God, then went back to dating mobsters and shlubs in Tony's circle, and then moved in on Bacala becoming surrogate mother to his kids and imposing on his grieving process. Janice>fucked Ralphie>killed Richie>married BobbyTony knew Janice would never change because Janice is just Tony with tits.
>>221036228Damn, Fofty...
>>221028617Only putting 10 on the Jets, and that bitch Carmella playing it off, lucky she didn't go into the program that morning
>>221028617The worst thing tony ever did was letting AJ drive his boat into a slapstick comedy
>>221036228that's so disrespectful
>>221037630Ralphie was simply pissing everybody around him off so if it wasn't Tony, it was going to be someone else. Disrespecting the Bing is the surface level offence to killing a pregnant girl he was stringing along; Ralphie was confrontational, short-fused, insincere and a coke head. Don't get me wrong; Gladiator is a great and amazing film, but there's no point in getting hot-headed whenever you bring it up in conversation out of nowhere and no one gets the reference. Laying low in Florida was probably the best and likely the worst move for him. If having him clandestinely whacked in a job on his return isn't the answer, having him stay in Florida indefinitely is probably the wisest and best long term strategy. Think Feech getting duped with the flat screens into going back to prison. Sooner or later, Ralphie would have pissed off someone down there and get fed to gators, but if he was able to set something up to earn money down there with his abilities even without connections, he could have been lucrative from afar.
Not smartening up Barone’s kid after the Dad kicked the bucket.
>>221028967You're a closeted faggot who would lick the shit marks off Vito's asscheeks after he takes a half hour dump
>>221028617Killing Chrissie, banging his shaman in vegas and then laughing about him being dead.
>>221031909SACRE BLEU WHERE IS ME MAMA
Simultaneously popping Baccala's cherry and killing Harpo
Telling Bobby it was time to seriously consider salads was an injurious insult, really below the belt. Then telling him to shove his quotations book up his as was way too far. Bobby was probably never the same after that. Vae victis.
>>221036306Killing Ralphie was wrong because Ralphie was being a shrewd mobster when he killed the horse. It was costing them money and it made sense to kill it for the insurance money. Tony has a conscious when it comes to animals but is cool with one of his underlings murdering a guy for a small amount of money.>he's doing a great job of expressing that he did NOT kill Pie-O-MyRewatch Ralphie's last scene, he basically admits to killing the horse.Tony: You cooked that horse aliveRalph: No I did not, but so what
>>221039737>Rewatch Ralphie's last scene, he basically admits to killing the horse.It's not quite that simple. Pantoliano was asked to act as if he didn't, or decided to play it that way, and did a phenomenal acting job of coming off as if he did-dent kill Pie O My. But yeah I agree, he sort of admitted it, gives the viewer more to think about writing the scene that way and asking Pants to play it as if he didn't. Great actor, great scene. Literal kino. Rough to beat a guy to death when he's trying to get through his son becoming a likely for-life veggie.If I were Tony, I don't think I could kill Ralph under those circumstances. but who knows. I'm not a violent mafia boss sociopath.
>>221039941Tony: "Jesus Christ, you did it. You cooked that fuckin' horse alive!"Ralph: "No, I did NOT! But so what?"Tony: "So what?"Ralph: "It was a fuckin' animal! A hundred grand a piece! My kid's in a fuckin' hospital! I don't hear you complainin' when I bring you a nice fat envelope. You don't give a shit where that comes from!"I don't care what the actor said, the writers and David Chase obviously wanted it to come off as him admitting it. The only reason he didn't flat out admit it is because the mobsters are constantly worried about wires.
He should have looked out for Jackie Jr. considering how he supposedly love his father.
>>221040014>the writers and David Chase obviously wanted it to come off as him admitting it.I can't quite agree, but point taken. Great scene.
>>221036416>constantly complains about having no one reliable>doesn't properly manage one of his most loyal guysIt's practically a running gag that Chris is the only mafioso that can shoot a fucking gun yet Tony doesn't bother using him in the one capacity he'd excel in
>reddit>OH MY GAWD THE MOST DISGUSTING THING TONY DID WAS THAT HE WAS A RACIST SEXIST HOMOBIC TRANSPHOBIC BIGOT WHO WAS MEAN>/tvee/>He let his daughter fuck a black jewkek never change
eating foie gras every day, until his liver was as dead as the duck's that had to suffer being made into foie gras
>>221040241>doesn't properly manage one of his most loyal guysThat's maybe a better way to look at it, not to look toward Chrissy as future leadership, but as a super loyal enforcer. Kind of like Furio, but more emotionally immature, so Tony'd need to recognize that and then figure out how to make Chris a real grown up. Tony really blew that part of his crew management.
>>221028617He's a monster but he doesn't hide that he is one, and he is comfortable with himself. Basically anyone who engages with him isn't innocent, not really, so murdering other goombas who are part of that life is par for the course, cheating on a wife who knew she was marrying a sleazy mobster yet only cares about who he fucks and not all the cons and murders he does, and all the people who engage with him to get something, the degenerate gamblers who borrow from him or the Jews who try to use his violence, none of them are innocent victims.So the most despicable acts are the ones that he does to people who don't engage with him, so that would be the times he uses thugs to harm civilians, of which I can think of two depicted on the show, the time he convinced the pastor to use thugs to shoot up the junkies to clear them out for the HUD scam, and the time he used thugs to rob people of their automobiles to ship to Italy.
>>221040472Like another anon said Chris definitely would have matured into a solid captain eventually, he wasn't smart enough to ever fit into Tony's role but he was savvy enough to run a crew. It's telling that he was generally very patient and decent towards other younger guys, he disliked Jackie JR but was still cordial towards him when it came to business, and schooled those UP IN DA CLUB bozos as best he could
>>221040479>So the most despicable acts are the ones that he does to people who don't engage with himinteresting. This would include ripping off the US gov't and the American taxpayer. Truly, Tony is Lucifer in the flesh.
>>221040402Even the reddit troons wouldn't say that Tony's worst sin was rejecting the hassidic homeboy, the people who follow that doctrine would not watch The Sopranos in the first place.
>>221040512>Chris definitely would have matured into a solid captain eventually,If he and they could've kept him sober, probably, and I think he'd be pretty decent at it. Big fuck up on T's part I think.
>>221040585No, he's a two bit scammer, which is a commentary in itself of the mafia in the 90s post Giuliani's crackdown. He says as much in the first episode, that this mafia run is near the end of the enterprise.When you add up the weight of his cons it's a lot of nickle and dime shit. Low level stock manipulation, telephone cards. Whenever it's scamming government programs, all the rats circle to get a taste.
>>221037705> Janice is just Tony with tits.Now there’s an image.
god phil was so fucking funny, his "it's an honor to be joined by men" speech is one of those rare moments that never fails to make me laugh
>>221040874unironically Paulie chuckled at this unintentionally
>>221040977>didn't like Phil the first time I watched the show>was okay with Phil the second time>loved him the third timeFrank Vincent is impossible to hate
>>221041055>Frank Vincent is impossible to hateTry saying that after reading his book
>>221029381Why bother substituting the real thing with this crap?
>>221041092do I want to know? I like his movies and don't want them to get ruined
>>221041155It's just a cash grab to take advantage of the popularity of the show. It's mainly formatted as a series of lists with very light, insipid commentary on them "You haven't eaten pizza until you've eaten at Lombardi's!" It's just that he shows how lame he is in a lot of it, especially the music part where he starts to compare musicians that he thinks are good versus ones he doesn't. Oof.
>>221028617some pulp. pulp in orange juice is disgusting
>>221040439Would Tony get invited to the island?
>>221040874OOOOHHH! Hear what I said Tone? THERE'S an image!! hehehe... hehe
>>221041055>Frank Vincent is impossible to hateThere's something about him I can't quite place my finger on, maybe it's just Italian-American discrimination (loool), but despite it he's funny enough that I too don't dislike him. Plus Phil would genocide troons.
>>221028967What did you want him to do? Other people in the org didn't like what he was associated with. That's ultimately Tony and Vito's problem not anybody else's. What if Vito was in the habit of spree killing civilians? Or raping women all over town to the point that people were getting wind to what he was doing? At a certain point trying to protect a guy who has become a liability within an organization puts you at risk. No amount of money in the world is worth having the entire org turn against you and try to get rid of you both.
>>221028617Becoming a gambling addict and taking on a massive loan from Hesh to cover his gambling debts, then berating Hesh about it and refusing to just pay up, destroying their friendship in the process (all in one episode). Nearly whacked him too
>>221037085>destroying his marriage*life
>>221028617Being italian, im italian descent so I know what is like
>>221041979that was so based fucking kike fuck them everything they have is stolen they deserve to have it taken
>>221040014I don't agree at all. While I can see him doing it the scene is completely ambiguous and I feel like Pantoliano plays it as if he felt Ralphie was innocent because he comes off as sincere in that he just doesn't give a fuck because he has more on his plate; like he would've done it had it occurred to him but it didn't even have the chance to.
>>221030720I dunno man, even if I have a “pal” gangster ever being indebted to them for 50$ is something that should never happen. Dipping your toe into their water means ya gonna get wet.If he simply approached tony and said “hey bro, I have a gambling problem, i don’t want to lose it all, stop me from borrowing, tell your crew not to lend to me, ill come by satriales later on and we can do a 100$ game of poker or whatever. Thanks.” He could have been fine and his life would be good, tony would have had no problems. He didn’t want to mix work and pleasure. Funnily enough the airline tickets reinforced that. Scatino was a mistake and messy. HOWEVER he kept getting in debt and trying to do high stakes chasing his loses/throwing that shit all away. Tony, at the end of the day with his bankruptcy scheme was just getting back what was owed. If tony let it slide or gave him an out you can bet your bottom dollar Ritchie would smell blood in the water and chimp.Yes, he was aware of daveys gambling problem but he never pressured him or pushed him. He even warned him. That courtesy from a mob boss is pretty damn good.Once davey got into debt with tony after all his warnings THE BREAKS COME OFF
>>221041116We deserved more Melfi nudity. Bracco had shown her tits and pussy on film before so surely she'd be okay with it. Her body was still dynamite right through the series.
>>221041979Whilst Tony's treatment towards a lifelong friend is awful Hesh has a literal lifetime's worth of fleecing other people so call it part of his comeuppance.
>>221037413>anon doesn't sit at the kitchen bench jacking it to the tile patterns
>>221042458true
>>221039737
>>221040585The government is fair game because the government is far more evil than the mafia
>>221043065>The government is fair gameyou would not be a good mobster
>>221028912Him killing Chris isn't that bad in a vacuum. You can't be a heroin addict if you're in the mob.What makes it so bad is how he treated him like shit in the years leading up to actually killing him. That scene in the back room of the Bing where Paulie makes the crack about Christopher's daughter and Tony is sitting there laughing like a demon in the smoke is the real moment Chris dies.So it's not the individual act itself but more so his overall abandonment of Chris that was the worst thing he ever did. As soon as Tony decided he wanted to fuck Adriana, he started subconsciously hoping for Chris's death and did a lot of shit to make it happen. The particulars are wrong, but Cleaver is accurate in spirit.
>>221043223the first time I saw the show I thought Tony was mercy killing him so he wouldn't end up in the slammer with a DUI whatever else
