>maybe we shouldn’t march our army into the middle of the desert with no food or water right into an ambush >BLASPHEMY!
>>221047281>centralized power fails because the guys at the top are completely out of touchLeftists never learn
>LOICEEEEEEEENCE!!bravo Riddler Scott
>>221047281God wills it!!
>>221047281Why does reddit love this movie?
>>221047281Why do Christlarpers hate this movie?
>>221047708most of them are illiterate and don’t know saladin made it into Dante’s list of ‘virtuous pagans’ in the Divine Comedy alongside the likes of Plato and Homer
>>221047743Funny thing is Saladin was nomenclature in the muslim world back then and all way to late 1800s. Relatively recent he's become a 'paragon' of muslim world, since they dont have that many heroes. They tout him as somekind of 'unifier' or whatever, but he was back then very decisive person and was so scared of assassins he slept in a tower.
>>221047833>so scared of assassins he slept in a towerCompletely valid for a medieval Muslim ruler
>>221047281What are things that never happens for the win, Alex?
>>221047833He was a Kurd, so Arabs only reluctantly give him props
>>221047833>and was so scared of assassins he slept in a tower.King Richard got hit in the neck with an arrow so thats understandable
>>221047281Yeah all crusades had these very suspicious (((predicators))), especially the saint louis one.
>>221047281one of the only accurate parts of KoH, the Templars really did advocate a day march to Hattin
>>221047833I'd say Zengi is more popular with Muslims
The muselmans murdered pilgrims, women and children. Raided and severed trade routes leading to Europe, that's why the crusades were called.After several hundred years of muslim aggression, expansionism and murder against Christians, i took them hundreds of years to even muster a response. >Le crusades are bad mmmkayKingdom of heaven is hollywood schlopp but i still think it's kino don't get me wrong, it's just not very historically accurate.They paint the crusaders as immoral bandits.
>>221047743Dante did not participate in the Crusades.Saladin was praised for keeping to his oaths more than other Muslim leaders at the time, it was a comparative thing.
>>221048874Surely none of the crusaders were opportunistic sociopaths
>>221048979The opportunity to do what exactly, die in the desert?And if you mean the Fourth Crusade the Greeks had it coming.
>>221048995>The opportunity to do what exactly, die in the desert?Loot and plunder. Or receive a fiefdom in a newly established crusader state if you're lucky.
>>221047743>saladin made it into Dante’s list of ‘virtuous pagans’ in the Divine Comedy alongside the likes of Plato and Homer>some guy included him in his bookso?
>>221047281Jews are behind anti-templar propaganda since XIV century
>>221047281this movie had so much potentialbut the final work is so weirdand having Legolas as the lead doesnt help either
>>221047702>>221047708If you know your history, this movie is extremely irritating. Ridley Scott just does whatever the fuck he wants.
>>221049898>Ridley Scott just does whatever the fuck he wants.The word for that is "based." The word for Ridley haters is "cringe." We've been over this many times now, lil bros.
>>221049013You dumb nigger, you have no idea what you're talking about.To give you a sample, the king of France spent FIVE YEARS worth of his entire budget to fund his part of the Crusade. Most regular knights outright bankrupted themselves. They knew they were marching onto a desert land with nothing to offer them. Even the most jaded scholar on the topic agrees that the Crusades mostly had a religious underpinning.
>>221050777So true. Knights or their retainers NEVER looted or plundered captured settlements nor did they receive land in exchange for service.
>>221050777And then there was Reynald de Chatillon who just hated the everliving fuck out of muslims that he funded his own war effort by pillaging the monastries of Cypros and running a mercenary army.
>>221050821Erm no they had rules about dat just like hitler and the nazis!
>>221050821Being sarcastic doesn't make you less of a dumb nigger. Geography and mathematics weren't arcane arts, they knew perfectly well it's mostly infertile desert and too little arable land to give away. The vast majority of Crusaders went back to their home countries.
>>221050959>The vast majority of Crusaders went back to their home countriesAnd some didn't. Which the film depicts. And you brown Christfags are upset about it lmao.Stay mad faggot.
>>221047833It's weird how internal Muslim debates seem kind of nuanced and varied and then you see them interacting with outsiders online and they automatically defend every deranged dictator and their psychotic crusades.
>>221050959> it's mostly infertile desert and too little arable land to give away. The Levant looked very different 800 years ago. It had supported mass agriculture and pastoralism for millennia up to the 12th century when the film takes place. It would have looked like Greece or Sicily back then. It only became a complete desert shithole after their societies were subjugated by the mongols. They stopped maintaining the ancient irrigation channels that gave rise to the fertile crescent, and growing demands for lumber in the lead-up to industrialism deforested whatever trees where there.
>>221051167The Bible mentions a forest in the Book of Samuel which is hard to imagine today.
>>221047708>Christlarpers hate this movieLies. Pull the other one, pajeet.
>>221051221>which is hard to imagine today.don't look up what the modern flag of lebanon is
>>221047702Because all the good guys are fedora-tipping 21st century secular humanists who are fighting each other in a holy war despite clearly not giving a shit about religion at all. And all the christians are depraved maniacs. It's a shame. There really aren't any other crusader-era films at all. The setting, design, cinematography are all kino. But the plot of the movie being "hey maaan, like, religion is stupid m'kay??" is completely cringe.
If only Conrad of Montferrat hadn't been killed by the assassins...
once again i'll shill this book and recommend reading it if you want a balanced and accurate play-by-play of the crusades.
>>221051506What about this one though
>>221047702It glazes Saladin and the Muslims
the point of the crusades was to get the warrior castes out of western europe. christianity was the original israeli lobby
>>221051506>author who abridges historical events>his name is thomas asbridgebravo kojima
>>221051317The movie didn't even touch how insane, greedy and evil some of the Crusading States or crusaders were, even during the Saladin's era.
>>221051564The crusaders burned jews alive.Honestly they were pretty based if you ask me.
chat is that real
>>221047324yeah leftist crusaders lmao rent freeno wonder conservatives always lose
>>221049498This
