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Uh bros, what is our response?
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>>221060857
>Dude bro... what if like... tv was shit and also like, bad for you?
Profound
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>>221060857
That’s not how you do plumbing Frank. You’re gonna get poo poo all over your living room floor
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Duuuuude, what if, like, society? And like, entertainment is shit. Whoaaaaah man, Im so deep and creative maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
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>>221060857
There should also be a pipe going to the back of his head
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>>221060872
It was installed by flakes.
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Wasn't Zappa a jew?
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>>221060857
yuppies absolutely BTFO
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>>221060857
>implying his music is any better
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>>221060857
was Zappa gay?
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>>221061192
Very
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>>221060867
>>221060885
Neither of you dipshits are saying he’s wrong though…. feel free to cry about it in your room.
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I have never listened to Frank Zappa and enjoyed his music or thought that I should listen to more of it. How the fuck is he so popular and famous? Or am I listening to the wrong album? Doesn't he have like 40 albums?
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>>221060857
>what if like... your piss fueled your tv
I don't get it
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>>221061192
No but he was a pedophile who employed literal child rapists in his band and didn't care that they openly and frequently committed statutory child rape.
If he was alive he'd be dragged through the mud harder than bowie pedo
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>>221061458
40 albums, all the same hippie no music theory bullshit. You want a nigga with a million albums who can make it sound sick each time? Buckethead
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>>221060857
Average /gif/ user in a scat thread
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Tried to get into Zappa’s music but his albums are all just like 4 good to ok songs then the rest is him wasting his fellow bandmates talent by making them make garbage circus music, proto-Reddit “LE WEASELS ATE MY FACE” shit, and the music equivalent of spitballs. It’s a fucking slog to get through and I now understand why he didn’t quite become a household name.
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They were right, and for zoomoids it's TikTok, YouTube etc
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>>221060857
"I appreciate you had a health scare, Frank. But daily colonoscopies seem a bit too much, don't you think?"
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>>221061506
>no music theory
Say whatever you want according to your taste, but probably the most musically literate person in classic rock
>nigga
Oh you're a trash person
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When they're a goblin
There ain't a problin
When they're a goblin
I start a-wobblin'
Pink all over
Some is tan
Goblin Girls
From every land
They look good
From any which-a-way
Every Halloween
You can hear me say:
*"Goblin Girl, take it away..."*

what did he mean by this?
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>>221061554
Kek! Don't make me laugh, nigga! Captain Beefheart had more talent and musical composition in one song on TMR than Zappa had in his whole career!
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>>221061558
Its about Israeli chicks
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>>221061568
Again, I mentioned literacy level, not what you like the most. Retarded wigger.
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It’s funny how Zappa acted so smug about everything but his music is just quirk chungus bullshit. Meanwhile someone like Roky Erickson could be high as shit constantly and accidentally shit out songs that are 10x better than anything Zappa ever did.
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>>221061506
you literally don't know anything about music theory
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>>221061458
the first two mothers of invention albums are really solid imo
the rest ranges from "meh" to "insufferable prog wank"
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>>221061596
I majored in it
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>>221061643
no you didn't major in 'music theory' lol
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>>221060857
My homeboy Don Pardo
Westfield Massachusetts represent
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>>221061686
Want me to post my diploma?
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Frank was a giant faggot. But his son Dweezil is awesome and one of the nicest guys around. His other kids are terrible too
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>>221060938
SHE'S FROSTING A CAKE
WITH A PAPER KNIFE
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>>221061573
https://youtu.be/BJd6zcLnuBs
You meant this one
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>>221061061
His band was better without him. The Mothers of Invention evolved into Missing Persons.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQF7FDeUePA&list=RDeQF7FDeUePA&start_radio=1&pp=ygUNV2Fsa2luZyBpbiBsYaAHAQ%3D%3D&ra=m
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>>221060857
Is Ai now the current "Tv makes us dumb", after 2000 it used to be internet, after 2010 smartphones
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He's not wrong. Television is a shit medium. Movies are great. Television series are great. But television, as a medium, sucks. It's didactic. It leaves little agency to the viewer. You watch what the channels want you to watch, when they want you to watch it. Want to pause what you're watching? Tough luck. Want to watch something without commercial breaks? No, you don't.

The internet replacing it was a godsend. Or so I thought, fifteen years ago. Only for them to turn it into television 2.0 with algorithms instead of channels telling you what to watch. At least you can still block ads. Nevertheless, I wish something would replace it, at this point.
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his music sucks and is barely music so nothing he says matters
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>>221061809
Migrate off this failed experiment to the fediverse, smolnet, matrix
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>>221061846
Thank you, first sane poster of the thread
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>>221061846
what do you consider good music?
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I will clog his television
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I have never heard any of this glowy's songs. Post his best song right now and I will tell you if I like it or not.
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>>221061801
The truth is nobody gets made dumb, they were always dumb
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>>221061992
Willie the Pimp from Hot Rats
https://youtu.be/KHiclrHm-ig?si=vSGrMOQJ0OrHf3oF
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>>221062066
me when the vocals kick in
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>>221061506
>declares zappa hippie no music theory bullshit
>suggests the reigning king of sophomoric noodling, buckethead
You cannot be serious lmao
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>>221062128
I enjoy almost all of Buckethead's work. I have never enjoyed a single Zappa song. My taste is objective btw.
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>>221062066
Everything good about this comes from hired jazz musicians who weren't a part of his band.
Everything that sucks is Zappa and his friends.
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>>221062150
You're a pig in shit anon :)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfx799mfD-A
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>>221061558
Okay nevermind he may be based
Everyone stand down, let him through...
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I say this genuinely, most people are too stupid and ignorant of music to appreciate Zappa. It's like giving a gourmet meal to a redneck.
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>>221062198
I only liked hot rats and grand wazoo and mothers, everything else bleeds into the worse side of prog rock with Caravan's and Jethro Tull's more mediocre tracks. It's bound to happen since 80% of prog rock was basically jam bands but slightly nerdier. Zappa is definitely low on the totem pole compared to many, but I'd put him near Mrs.Beastly and Focus
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>>221062180
That is fucking awful. No way you actually enjoy that audible trash holy shit.
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>>221062248
I bet you listen to Three Days Grace XD
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>>221062258
I don't think I know a three days grace song, but I'm 100% certain it sounds better than Frank Crappa
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>>221062248
Anon did you actually listen to it or just the first 20 seconds like a zoomer
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You have to know the rules to break them. Zappa was a genius, but he intentionally made music that he knew would be controversial and sometimes hard to listen to. Morons won't understand in the same way that they can't understand the prose of someone like McCarthy. You can't appreciate how Zappa plays with things when your musical basis is dadrock and rap.
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TIL Christgau is still alive
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>>221062277
If the fucking start of a song sounds shit--you know, the part that is supposed to hook you in--then the entire fucking song will be shit. But you know what, I'll listen to the entire song to prove you wrong. I'll give you my honest opinion when I'm done.
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I'd love for someone to show me a single band that has the musicianship to perform anything close to something like this live in front of an audience
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRmk6XfocGs
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>m-muh music theory
Who gives a shit when his voice is awful and his lyric writing is even worse (and not funny)
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>>221062317
FALSE most gentle giant and genesis songs start like shit and then become good as fuck and if you say those are shit I swear to god anon, bam, boom, straight to the moon
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>>221062277
>>221062317
I couldn't do it. 40 seconds is the longest I can bear listening to this drivel. I'd rather listen to a thousand kittens getting dropped into a wood chipper than the song you posted. That is my honest, unfiltered opinion.
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>>221062180
>>221062336
Trash
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>>221062349
Fact: not a single song on earth that starts shit is actually good.
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>>221062359
please, I'm begging you, I want to listen to better music. Link me to something you think is good.
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>>221062350
>That is my honest, unfiltered opinion.
Well I appreciate you giving it a go at least. Shame you couldn't last a minute, the intro sets up the much more melodic second half that starts about 10 seconds later. Personally I like to take songs in the full context.
you fucking dopamine addled zoomer
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>>221062359
>>221062350
Post songs that you like.
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>>221061958
Led Zeppelin - Fool in the Rain is the greatest modern song ever composed and performed in a studio.
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>>221062419
Holy fuck anon please tell me you're not repeating this embarrassing ass opinion in public at least.
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>>221062036
That's not true. I have friends who were pretty bright 20 years ago, even 10 years ago, that have become borderline retarded in the past few years. As in, they're unable to follow sentences with more than two clauses, they don't understand themes and metaphors in movies or books, they've become worse at reading social cues as well. These people of course scroll social media and use chatgpt daily.
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>>221062369
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRlqHDjKGy0&t=140
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He's okay. With as many talented musicians he worked with, you're bound to like something of his.
Did you fags see him on Crossfire?
>>221061992
One of my favorite Zappa instrumentals:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kapIG3LUb4
A mini rock opera about a pedophilic small-time politician:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNULHGsy3SE
A nostalgic intro to a bigger rock opera, about a garage band:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KINj7I42PlU
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>>221062428
I don't believe you.
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>>221062423
Explain why it's not the greatest.
Go ahead.
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>drugs are le bad
>except cigarettes, those are good
>dies of cancer
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>>221060857
Sayyid? What season of Lost is this from?
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>>221062454
Because it's a sappy generic boomer-tune written by a serial plagiarist and isn't even remotely the best Zeppelin song. It's also very poorly produced, even considering the period. The Wall was released same year, for production comparison.
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>>221062486
>sappy generic boomer tune
>btw the Wall is better
This a hilarious an incorrect response, try again
Also name the better Zeppelin songs
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>>221062506
>btw the Wall is better
In terms of production quality, you fucking retard.
There is not a single fucking listener outside this thread that thinks In Through the Out Door is better than The Wall.
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>>221062362
A peacebone got found in the dinosaur wing, thoughbeit
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>>221060857
He's watching pic related.
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>>221062527
>In terms of production quality, you fucking retard.
There's not better drum work on the Wall than there is on In Through the Out Door (Zeppelin's best album hands down)
The Wall is not even Pink Floyd's best album, but I wouldn't compare them to Zeppelin because I prefer music with focus
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>>221062486
>muh plagiarism
fuck you and fuck black people
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>>221062552
Do you understand what I'm talking about when I say production anon? And just because Bonham is better than Nick Mason does not mean Zeppelin's most mid album is better than The Wall.
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>>221062587
If you think overproduced theater is better than rock and roll when listening to a rock and roll album, then sure
But I don't feel that way
Frank Zappa is also sucks and is for fags, but I'm just assuming you like him based on you being a pedant
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>>221062587
>>221062552
and also
>I prefer music with focus
The Wall is literally a concept album, In Through the Out Door is a collection of mediocre singles. Focus?
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>I also watch mind-numbing entertainment too. I mean, occasionally there'll be a film on HBO or movie channel that i'm interested in and i'll watch it. You know, some of the recent blockbuster films, like the other night, we watched this rather amusing piece of shit called Predator 2. I don't know wether you've seen that...
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>arguing about which dad rock is better unironically
You're making me sympathize with Frank Zappa
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People have been falling for this obvious shop for years
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I'm just glad he's dead. Imagine his boomer hot takes going on and on for 35 more years. Same thing with John Lennon, thank God for six shot revolvers Chapman spared the entire world by getting the deed done.

Steve Albini too, we all lucked out with that one jfc what an insufferable twat
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>>221063151
This, don’t forgot Kurt Cobain, he’d be going nuts on bluesky today.
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>>221063843
Wrong
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>>221061458
Oldfags love avant garde tripe that makes them seem sophisticated and sets them apart from the unwashed masses who find that sort of media inaccessible.
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>>221061573
>faggot to afraid to say jew
This isn’t reddit lil bro
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>>221062968
Thank God I was fretting over how Zappa even gets up to the bathroom
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>>221065528
>retarded zoomie forgets that Trump has talked/tried to be President for decades
>and that for decades he was a Democrat
Donnie was bluer than a smurf's dick until 2012
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>>221065528
https://www.factcheck.org/2018/11/fake-kurt-cobain-quote-about-trump/
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>>221065528
Nah, he’s right. If Obama from 2008 ran today he’d be further right than Trump and leftists would call him a Nazi. Most people just go along with the shifting of the Overton window, I doubt Kurt Cobain would be any different. I bet he would have trooned out if he were still around today.
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>>221065669
>goldberg
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>>221061522
Kinda this. For every good song on an album there's like six that are terrible. You could strip down his 40 albums into a really solid double album of his best work. The guy was king of filler.
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>>221063151
>john lennon
I'm glad he died when he did. Imagine how fucking embarassing he would have been in the 1980s. Doing synth pop. Maybe he would try rapping on one of his albums. A terrible Beatles reunion. Then becoming insufferably woke in his old age. Best that he died at 40.
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>>221061705
yeah
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>>221065862
it would of been worth it for him finishing the job with yoko ono
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>>221061522
>>221065836
Beefheart did the wacky, zany shit better, and I would argue had a better good to bad song ratio.
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>>221060867
>>221060885
Kek, you're such spergs. It's a funny image and he's correct.
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>>221060857
damn, i knew he liked the smell of his own farts, but i wasnt expecting THIS
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>>221060857
you know this is a great idea. make sure all your toilets are on the second story, no easy access, so fat people have to like, get some exercise.
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>>221066666
what a wasted get
the image is fake
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>>221060857
>Poo poo pee pee!
>*shitty CIA funded circus music*
>waah waah waah
>*laughs in an outake*

Bravo!
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>>221060857
no wonder he doesnt like tv, he’s got it hooked up wrong
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>>221066724
triggered retard
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>>221060857
Beefheart unintentionally mogs the fuck out of this jewish poser.
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>>221060857
that tv can't hold that much poo he needs to upgrade to a rear projection
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>>221060857
/tv/ btfo
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>>221061761
>The Mothers of Invention evolved into Missing Persons.
Terry wasn't part of the MoI lineup. MP's story was fascinating and sad because he was capable of some really avant-garde shit but the press and the label was only interested in Dale's tits and it broke up their marriage.
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>>221062180
HEZA-MEXI-KIN
great fucking album, end to end
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>>221062198
>I say this genuinely, most people are too stupid and ignorant of music to appreciate Zappa.
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>>221062428
Genuinely beautiful anon, thanks for sharing.
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>>221066086
Sorry, I felt like it 8 hours ago, not so much anymore. Maybe next thread
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The same boomers that wax nostalgically for zappa will condemn shit like Angine de Poitrine because it got popular this year. If you told them that AdP was an undiscovered obscure band from the 70s that just now got popular, they would unhinge their jaws to accommodate as much penis as possible.
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>>221062435
I was already familiar with Zappa in high school but Joe's Garage was the first album I bought with my own money and goddamn that was some stuff.
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>>221062472
>except cigarettes, those are good
You have no idea how many actors and musicians live off the world's favorite stimulant
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>>221065638
God isn't real
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>>221060857
How is this AI pajeet slop related to /tv/?
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>>221065862
>Imagine how fucking embarassing he would have been in the 1980s. Doing synth pop. Maybe he would try rapping on one of his albums. A terrible Beatles reunion
You've got Paul to show you what would have happened. The reunion would not have happened because George was justifiably bitter over being shoved to the sidelines.
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>>221067673
>The same boomers that wax nostalgically for zappa will condemn shit like Angine de Poitrine because it got popular this year
I was born in 1967 and appreciate AdP so idk where you get this take.
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>>221067738
https://youtu.be/tdtGo2Ib9oI
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>>221060857
Oh my insta reel this is so liminal
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>/tv/ falls for piss-poor edits once again
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Speaking of jeets
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOFTRyNZ1Ro
>If you spend your days talkin’ to a machine
>You might forget that you’re a human being
>Don’t let it make a fool of you
>Remember who you’re talkin’ to
What did they mean by this? What machines were people talking to in 1971? Did Boomers talk to their tv? It sounds prophetic
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>>221061454
>>221066514
Seething
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>>221067998
The background is obviously a miniature. It's not trying to be realistic.
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>>221067998
So he really didnt plug his toilet to his tv causing shit and piss to slowly drip out of the tv?
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>>221067998
Did you know there was something called "photo montage" that people used in ye olden days? It was popular for use in magazines. Photoshop tools are built around what they used to do by hand.
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>>221067652
awww i was gonna shitpost you about how a music theory degree was worthless anyways
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>>221068100
You mean collage
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>>221068071
>>221068097
>>221068100
oh no
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oof
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Zappa was a hack
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>>221060857
>>221068293
>>221068313
It's funny because it's the kind of thing Zappa would do.
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>>221067779
I mean, Paul just made a lot of music and changed up his sound often. His 80s output was terrible but he put out a couple of good tunes that decade. Lennon was already out of the game for 5 years by the time Double Fantasy came out. Had he lived, I could see him getting more into the 80s culture and probably becoming political again. To sound fresh, I swear Lennon would have done some lame 80s rap song and some horrible synth shit. Probably a Beatles reunion in 1994 when Anthology was put together, maybe one album that would be received lukewarm like Steely Dan's Two Against Nature, then Lennon settling into elder statesman status. He would have ended up tweeting about orange man bad every day.
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Frank Zappa hated music and hated being ugly, that's why he worked his entire life to make the shittiest, most disgustingly awful inhumanly terrible "music" he could.
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>>221060857
Powerful.
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>>221065862
You fucking kidding me? All of that would have been awesome. In fact, George Harrison's best music was made in the 80's and early 90s. John woulda been a Wilbury.
>insufferably woke
He coulda sang Woman Is The Nigger Of The World at both #metoo AND blm protests
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>>221060857
he's dressed like a fag and holding a small animal. very estrogenic image.
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As a fan: he has an insane amount of unpalatable music. But the composition is unlike anything else and the bands he put together were incredibly skilled. I could watch vids from this era all day
https://youtu.be/6VAjr5tZyeI?si=ljmBeM6g2QmhvLFL
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZsDH2EgHgk
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>>221060857
Mr Zappa, aren't you dead?
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>>221060857
He’s not wrong.
Dispite all the thread cope
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Ooh, is that where Mission Hill's apartment design is from?
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>>221060857
Imagine this but it was Bryce Dallas Howard shitting into your tv
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>>221061458
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm2Ix1JudPo

he has some good tunes
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I thought this was a jeet that was indulging his scat fetish
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>>221068816
>George Harrison's best music was made in the 80's and early 90s.

bruh, I rate Harrison's solo career better than any of the other Beatles but come on.

Also, Wonderwall was his only great album.
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>>221062180
kino.
I prefer Peaches en Regalia and Inca Roads though.
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>>221061061
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8yDarQW7UZc
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>>221068359
It really isn't, this just shows how little you guys actually know about Zappa. He was also very vocally anti-communist unlike what people are saying here
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>>221071252
/tv/ going 5 minutes without thinking about Indians challenge: Impossible
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>>221060885
its a simple crude joke laughing at a simple crude society, maaaan
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>>221072390
pretty easy to understand, amusing to see how many autists couldnt. i think i want to print and sell tshirts saying "autists can't".
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>>221060958
He was Iranian.
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>>221060857
In his defense, everything on TV sucked back then except for Norman Leer shows. Ever watch Matlock or Hill Street Blues or any other hour long drama on MeTV from before the Clinton years? They're terrible. It makes you appreciate how fucking stupid boomers are and how society was angled to keep them that way.



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