Uh bros, what is our response?
>>221060857>Dude bro... what if like... tv was shit and also like, bad for you?Profound
>>221060857That’s not how you do plumbing Frank. You’re gonna get poo poo all over your living room floor
Duuuuude, what if, like, society? And like, entertainment is shit. Whoaaaaah man, Im so deep and creative maaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaan.
>>221060857There should also be a pipe going to the back of his head
>>221060872It was installed by flakes.
Wasn't Zappa a jew?
>>221060857yuppies absolutely BTFO
>>221060857>implying his music is any better
>>221060857was Zappa gay?
>>221061192Very
>>221060867>>221060885Neither of you dipshits are saying he’s wrong though…. feel free to cry about it in your room.
I have never listened to Frank Zappa and enjoyed his music or thought that I should listen to more of it. How the fuck is he so popular and famous? Or am I listening to the wrong album? Doesn't he have like 40 albums?
>>221060857>what if like... your piss fueled your tvI don't get it
>>221061192No but he was a pedophile who employed literal child rapists in his band and didn't care that they openly and frequently committed statutory child rape.If he was alive he'd be dragged through the mud harder than bowie pedo
>>22106145840 albums, all the same hippie no music theory bullshit. You want a nigga with a million albums who can make it sound sick each time? Buckethead
>>221060857Average /gif/ user in a scat thread
Tried to get into Zappa’s music but his albums are all just like 4 good to ok songs then the rest is him wasting his fellow bandmates talent by making them make garbage circus music, proto-Reddit “LE WEASELS ATE MY FACE” shit, and the music equivalent of spitballs. It’s a fucking slog to get through and I now understand why he didn’t quite become a household name.
They were right, and for zoomoids it's TikTok, YouTube etc
>>221060857"I appreciate you had a health scare, Frank. But daily colonoscopies seem a bit too much, don't you think?"
>>221061506>no music theorySay whatever you want according to your taste, but probably the most musically literate person in classic rock>niggaOh you're a trash person
When they're a goblinThere ain't a problinWhen they're a goblinI start a-wobblin'Pink all overSome is tanGoblin GirlsFrom every landThey look goodFrom any which-a-wayEvery HalloweenYou can hear me say:*"Goblin Girl, take it away..."*what did he mean by this?
>>221061554Kek! Don't make me laugh, nigga! Captain Beefheart had more talent and musical composition in one song on TMR than Zappa had in his whole career!
>>221061558Its about Israeli chicks
>>221061568Again, I mentioned literacy level, not what you like the most. Retarded wigger.
It’s funny how Zappa acted so smug about everything but his music is just quirk chungus bullshit. Meanwhile someone like Roky Erickson could be high as shit constantly and accidentally shit out songs that are 10x better than anything Zappa ever did.
>>221061506you literally don't know anything about music theory
>>221061458the first two mothers of invention albums are really solid imothe rest ranges from "meh" to "insufferable prog wank"
>>221061596I majored in it
>>221061643no you didn't major in 'music theory' lol
>>221060857My homeboy Don PardoWestfield Massachusetts represent
>>221061686Want me to post my diploma?
Frank was a giant faggot. But his son Dweezil is awesome and one of the nicest guys around. His other kids are terrible too
>>221060938SHE'S FROSTING A CAKE WITH A PAPER KNIFE
>>221061573https://youtu.be/BJd6zcLnuBsYou meant this one
>>221061061His band was better without him. The Mothers of Invention evolved into Missing Persons. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQF7FDeUePA&list=RDeQF7FDeUePA&start_radio=1&pp=ygUNV2Fsa2luZyBpbiBsYaAHAQ%3D%3D&ra=m
>>221060857Is Ai now the current "Tv makes us dumb", after 2000 it used to be internet, after 2010 smartphones
He's not wrong. Television is a shit medium. Movies are great. Television series are great. But television, as a medium, sucks. It's didactic. It leaves little agency to the viewer. You watch what the channels want you to watch, when they want you to watch it. Want to pause what you're watching? Tough luck. Want to watch something without commercial breaks? No, you don't.The internet replacing it was a godsend. Or so I thought, fifteen years ago. Only for them to turn it into television 2.0 with algorithms instead of channels telling you what to watch. At least you can still block ads. Nevertheless, I wish something would replace it, at this point.
his music sucks and is barely music so nothing he says matters
>>221061809Migrate off this failed experiment to the fediverse, smolnet, matrix
>>221061846Thank you, first sane poster of the thread
>>221061846what do you consider good music?
I will clog his television
I have never heard any of this glowy's songs. Post his best song right now and I will tell you if I like it or not.
>>221061801The truth is nobody gets made dumb, they were always dumb
>>221061992Willie the Pimp from Hot Ratshttps://youtu.be/KHiclrHm-ig?si=vSGrMOQJ0OrHf3oF
>>221062066me when the vocals kick in
>>221061506>declares zappa hippie no music theory bullshit>suggests the reigning king of sophomoric noodling, bucketheadYou cannot be serious lmao
>>221062128I enjoy almost all of Buckethead's work. I have never enjoyed a single Zappa song. My taste is objective btw.
>>221062066Everything good about this comes from hired jazz musicians who weren't a part of his band.Everything that sucks is Zappa and his friends.
>>221062150You're a pig in shit anon :)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pfx799mfD-A
>>221061558Okay nevermind he may be basedEveryone stand down, let him through...
I say this genuinely, most people are too stupid and ignorant of music to appreciate Zappa. It's like giving a gourmet meal to a redneck.
>>221062198I only liked hot rats and grand wazoo and mothers, everything else bleeds into the worse side of prog rock with Caravan's and Jethro Tull's more mediocre tracks. It's bound to happen since 80% of prog rock was basically jam bands but slightly nerdier. Zappa is definitely low on the totem pole compared to many, but I'd put him near Mrs.Beastly and Focus
>>221062180That is fucking awful. No way you actually enjoy that audible trash holy shit.
>>221062248I bet you listen to Three Days Grace XD
>>221062258I don't think I know a three days grace song, but I'm 100% certain it sounds better than Frank Crappa
>>221062248Anon did you actually listen to it or just the first 20 seconds like a zoomer
You have to know the rules to break them. Zappa was a genius, but he intentionally made music that he knew would be controversial and sometimes hard to listen to. Morons won't understand in the same way that they can't understand the prose of someone like McCarthy. You can't appreciate how Zappa plays with things when your musical basis is dadrock and rap.
TIL Christgau is still alive
>>221062277If the fucking start of a song sounds shit--you know, the part that is supposed to hook you in--then the entire fucking song will be shit. But you know what, I'll listen to the entire song to prove you wrong. I'll give you my honest opinion when I'm done.
I'd love for someone to show me a single band that has the musicianship to perform anything close to something like this live in front of an audiencehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRmk6XfocGs
>m-muh music theory Who gives a shit when his voice is awful and his lyric writing is even worse (and not funny)
>>221062317FALSE most gentle giant and genesis songs start like shit and then become good as fuck and if you say those are shit I swear to god anon, bam, boom, straight to the moon
>>221062277>>221062317I couldn't do it. 40 seconds is the longest I can bear listening to this drivel. I'd rather listen to a thousand kittens getting dropped into a wood chipper than the song you posted. That is my honest, unfiltered opinion.
>>221062180>>221062336Trash
>>221062349 Fact: not a single song on earth that starts shit is actually good.
>>221062359please, I'm begging you, I want to listen to better music. Link me to something you think is good.
>>221062350>That is my honest, unfiltered opinion.Well I appreciate you giving it a go at least. Shame you couldn't last a minute, the intro sets up the much more melodic second half that starts about 10 seconds later. Personally I like to take songs in the full context. you fucking dopamine addled zoomer
>>221062359>>221062350Post songs that you like.
>>221061958Led Zeppelin - Fool in the Rain is the greatest modern song ever composed and performed in a studio.
>>221062419Holy fuck anon please tell me you're not repeating this embarrassing ass opinion in public at least.
>>221062036That's not true. I have friends who were pretty bright 20 years ago, even 10 years ago, that have become borderline retarded in the past few years. As in, they're unable to follow sentences with more than two clauses, they don't understand themes and metaphors in movies or books, they've become worse at reading social cues as well. These people of course scroll social media and use chatgpt daily.
>>221062369https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uRlqHDjKGy0&t=140
He's okay. With as many talented musicians he worked with, you're bound to like something of his.Did you fags see him on Crossfire?>>221061992One of my favorite Zappa instrumentals:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1kapIG3LUb4A mini rock opera about a pedophilic small-time politician:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oNULHGsy3SEA nostalgic intro to a bigger rock opera, about a garage band:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KINj7I42PlU
>>221062428I don't believe you.
>>221062423Explain why it's not the greatest.Go ahead.
>drugs are le bad>except cigarettes, those are good>dies of cancer
>>221060857Sayyid? What season of Lost is this from?
>>221062454Because it's a sappy generic boomer-tune written by a serial plagiarist and isn't even remotely the best Zeppelin song. It's also very poorly produced, even considering the period. The Wall was released same year, for production comparison.
>>221062486>sappy generic boomer tune>btw the Wall is betterThis a hilarious an incorrect response, try againAlso name the better Zeppelin songs
>>221062506>btw the Wall is betterIn terms of production quality, you fucking retard. There is not a single fucking listener outside this thread that thinks In Through the Out Door is better than The Wall.
>>221062362A peacebone got found in the dinosaur wing, thoughbeit
>>221060857He's watching pic related.
>>221062527>In terms of production quality, you fucking retard.There's not better drum work on the Wall than there is on In Through the Out Door (Zeppelin's best album hands down)The Wall is not even Pink Floyd's best album, but I wouldn't compare them to Zeppelin because I prefer music with focus
>>221062486>muh plagiarismfuck you and fuck black people
>>221062552Do you understand what I'm talking about when I say production anon? And just because Bonham is better than Nick Mason does not mean Zeppelin's most mid album is better than The Wall.
>>221062587If you think overproduced theater is better than rock and roll when listening to a rock and roll album, then sureBut I don't feel that wayFrank Zappa is also sucks and is for fags, but I'm just assuming you like him based on you being a pedant
>>221062587>>221062552and also >I prefer music with focusThe Wall is literally a concept album, In Through the Out Door is a collection of mediocre singles. Focus?
>I also watch mind-numbing entertainment too. I mean, occasionally there'll be a film on HBO or movie channel that i'm interested in and i'll watch it. You know, some of the recent blockbuster films, like the other night, we watched this rather amusing piece of shit called Predator 2. I don't know wether you've seen that...
>arguing about which dad rock is better unironicallyYou're making me sympathize with Frank Zappa
People have been falling for this obvious shop for years
I'm just glad he's dead. Imagine his boomer hot takes going on and on for 35 more years. Same thing with John Lennon, thank God for six shot revolvers Chapman spared the entire world by getting the deed done. Steve Albini too, we all lucked out with that one jfc what an insufferable twat
>>221063151This, don’t forgot Kurt Cobain, he’d be going nuts on bluesky today.
>>221063843Wrong
>>221061458Oldfags love avant garde tripe that makes them seem sophisticated and sets them apart from the unwashed masses who find that sort of media inaccessible.
>>221061573>faggot to afraid to say jew This isn’t reddit lil bro
>>221062968Thank God I was fretting over how Zappa even gets up to the bathroom
>>221065528>retarded zoomie forgets that Trump has talked/tried to be President for decades>and that for decades he was a DemocratDonnie was bluer than a smurf's dick until 2012
>>221065528https://www.factcheck.org/2018/11/fake-kurt-cobain-quote-about-trump/
>>221065528Nah, he’s right. If Obama from 2008 ran today he’d be further right than Trump and leftists would call him a Nazi. Most people just go along with the shifting of the Overton window, I doubt Kurt Cobain would be any different. I bet he would have trooned out if he were still around today.
>>221065669>goldberg
>>221061522Kinda this. For every good song on an album there's like six that are terrible. You could strip down his 40 albums into a really solid double album of his best work. The guy was king of filler.
>>221063151>john lennonI'm glad he died when he did. Imagine how fucking embarassing he would have been in the 1980s. Doing synth pop. Maybe he would try rapping on one of his albums. A terrible Beatles reunion. Then becoming insufferably woke in his old age. Best that he died at 40.
>>221061705yeah
>>221065862it would of been worth it for him finishing the job with yoko ono
>>221061522>>221065836Beefheart did the wacky, zany shit better, and I would argue had a better good to bad song ratio.
>>221060867>>221060885Kek, you're such spergs. It's a funny image and he's correct.
>>221060857damn, i knew he liked the smell of his own farts, but i wasnt expecting THIS
>>221060857you know this is a great idea. make sure all your toilets are on the second story, no easy access, so fat people have to like, get some exercise.
>>221066666what a wasted getthe image is fake
>>221060857>Poo poo pee pee!>*shitty CIA funded circus music*>waah waah waah>*laughs in an outake*Bravo!
>>221060857no wonder he doesnt like tv, he’s got it hooked up wrong
>>221066724triggered retard
>>221060857Beefheart unintentionally mogs the fuck out of this jewish poser.
>>221060857that tv can't hold that much poo he needs to upgrade to a rear projection
>>221060857/tv/ btfo
>>221061761>The Mothers of Invention evolved into Missing Persons.Terry wasn't part of the MoI lineup. MP's story was fascinating and sad because he was capable of some really avant-garde shit but the press and the label was only interested in Dale's tits and it broke up their marriage.
>>221062180HEZA-MEXI-KINgreat fucking album, end to end
>>221062198>I say this genuinely, most people are too stupid and ignorant of music to appreciate Zappa.
>>221062428Genuinely beautiful anon, thanks for sharing.
>>221066086Sorry, I felt like it 8 hours ago, not so much anymore. Maybe next thread
The same boomers that wax nostalgically for zappa will condemn shit like Angine de Poitrine because it got popular this year. If you told them that AdP was an undiscovered obscure band from the 70s that just now got popular, they would unhinge their jaws to accommodate as much penis as possible.
>>221062435I was already familiar with Zappa in high school but Joe's Garage was the first album I bought with my own money and goddamn that was some stuff.
>>221062472>except cigarettes, those are goodYou have no idea how many actors and musicians live off the world's favorite stimulant
>>221065638God isn't real
>>221060857How is this AI pajeet slop related to /tv/?
>>221065862>Imagine how fucking embarassing he would have been in the 1980s. Doing synth pop. Maybe he would try rapping on one of his albums. A terrible Beatles reunionYou've got Paul to show you what would have happened. The reunion would not have happened because George was justifiably bitter over being shoved to the sidelines.
>>221067673>The same boomers that wax nostalgically for zappa will condemn shit like Angine de Poitrine because it got popular this yearI was born in 1967 and appreciate AdP so idk where you get this take.
>>221067738https://youtu.be/tdtGo2Ib9oI
>>221060857Oh my insta reel this is so liminal
>/tv/ falls for piss-poor edits once again
Speaking of jeetshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bOFTRyNZ1Ro>If you spend your days talkin’ to a machine>You might forget that you’re a human being>Don’t let it make a fool of you>Remember who you’re talkin’ toWhat did they mean by this? What machines were people talking to in 1971? Did Boomers talk to their tv? It sounds prophetic
>>221061454>>221066514Seething
>>221067998The background is obviously a miniature. It's not trying to be realistic.
>>221067998So he really didnt plug his toilet to his tv causing shit and piss to slowly drip out of the tv?
>>221067998Did you know there was something called "photo montage" that people used in ye olden days? It was popular for use in magazines. Photoshop tools are built around what they used to do by hand.
>>221067652awww i was gonna shitpost you about how a music theory degree was worthless anyways
>>221068100You mean collage
>>221068071>>221068097>>221068100oh no
oof
Zappa was a hack
>>221060857>>221068293>>221068313It's funny because it's the kind of thing Zappa would do.
>>221067779I mean, Paul just made a lot of music and changed up his sound often. His 80s output was terrible but he put out a couple of good tunes that decade. Lennon was already out of the game for 5 years by the time Double Fantasy came out. Had he lived, I could see him getting more into the 80s culture and probably becoming political again. To sound fresh, I swear Lennon would have done some lame 80s rap song and some horrible synth shit. Probably a Beatles reunion in 1994 when Anthology was put together, maybe one album that would be received lukewarm like Steely Dan's Two Against Nature, then Lennon settling into elder statesman status. He would have ended up tweeting about orange man bad every day.
Frank Zappa hated music and hated being ugly, that's why he worked his entire life to make the shittiest, most disgustingly awful inhumanly terrible "music" he could.
>>221060857Powerful.
>>221065862You fucking kidding me? All of that would have been awesome. In fact, George Harrison's best music was made in the 80's and early 90s. John woulda been a Wilbury.>insufferably wokeHe coulda sang Woman Is The Nigger Of The World at both #metoo AND blm protests
>>221060857he's dressed like a fag and holding a small animal. very estrogenic image.
As a fan: he has an insane amount of unpalatable music. But the composition is unlike anything else and the bands he put together were incredibly skilled. I could watch vids from this era all dayhttps://youtu.be/6VAjr5tZyeI?si=ljmBeM6g2QmhvLFL
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZsDH2EgHgk
>>221060857Mr Zappa, aren't you dead?
>>221060857He’s not wrong.Dispite all the thread cope
Ooh, is that where Mission Hill's apartment design is from?
>>221060857Imagine this but it was Bryce Dallas Howard shitting into your tv
>>221061458https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gm2Ix1JudPohe has some good tunes
I thought this was a jeet that was indulging his scat fetish
>>221068816>George Harrison's best music was made in the 80's and early 90s.bruh, I rate Harrison's solo career better than any of the other Beatles but come on.Also, Wonderwall was his only great album.
>>221062180kino.I prefer Peaches en Regalia and Inca Roads though.
>>221061061https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=8yDarQW7UZc
>>221068359It really isn't, this just shows how little you guys actually know about Zappa. He was also very vocally anti-communist unlike what people are saying here
>>221071252/tv/ going 5 minutes without thinking about Indians challenge: Impossible
>>221060885its a simple crude joke laughing at a simple crude society, maaaan
>>221072390 pretty easy to understand, amusing to see how many autists couldnt. i think i want to print and sell tshirts saying "autists can't".
>>221060958He was Iranian.
>>221060857In his defense, everything on TV sucked back then except for Norman Leer shows. Ever watch Matlock or Hill Street Blues or any other hour long drama on MeTV from before the Clinton years? They're terrible. It makes you appreciate how fucking stupid boomers are and how society was angled to keep them that way.