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Zoomer here, just getting into Star Trek.
Why did this franchise get so raped over the years? Why is Alex Kurzman still in charge? Is this some kind of nerd humiliation ritual?
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>>221086272
>Why did this franchise get so raped over the years?
Your generation wants Whedonesque quipping and emotional problems instead of military hierarchies where adults communicate and collaborate productively
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>>221086272
>Why did this franchise get so raped over the years?
Because they tried to pander to (you). But guess they weren't gay enough.
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I hate how star trek fans act like pearlclutchers, it wasnt raped lately, it stopped being good long time ago, even ds9 and tng, best shows in the franchise weren't always good
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>>221086331
good and bad isn't binary

sub rosa and bad Ferengi episodes are all still better than any episode of nutrek. two completely different levels
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>>221086272
Writers who don't understand utopian science fiction, producers who don't care, and Paramount believing that if they throw vast amounts of money at them, it will make up for the fundamental lack of writing talent.
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>>221086331
You can't really name an episodic series with several seasons and multiple writters that have only good episodes. DS9 and TNG are pretty solid overall unlike modern nu-Trek. Hell, the "best" series after DS9 might be Lower Decks, and it's awful Reddit CalArts.
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Just let it die. Nothing in the new shows comes close to the work of Westmore.
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>>221086272
>Why is Alex Kurzman still in charge?
Nobody knows for sure. I'm guessing blackmail though.
I don't know of any other tv producer who has wasted more money and produced more consecutive bombs.
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Paramount treats Star Trek like the town bicycle. You give it to everybody you owe a favour to.
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>>221086272
>Why did this franchise get so raped over the years?
What franchise hasn't?

>>221086331
Hideously retarded take
>no you can't complain about trek being turned into actual unwatchable slop because there's a few bad episodes from a 100+ episode tv show from the 80s and 90s!
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>>221086530
I just mentioned the best ones, have you seen Voyager or Enterprise?
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>>221086647
Those were still good shows
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>>221086689
Well agree to disagree then
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>>221086301
>military hierarchies where adults communicate and collaborate productively
Nicely stated.
>>221086272
>Why is Alex Kurzman still in charge?
Because he's part of the special class that openly runs Hollywood but whom will destroy you if you point out they run Hollywood.
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>>221086530
>What franchise hasn't?
ITS A TRAP!!!!!
He's asking so that he can go rape them
You leave The Little Rascals and Ma & Pa Kettle alone ya filthy rapier!
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>>221086272
Star Trek (and pretty much every other TV Show) used to be written by veterans and people who had real jobs before getting into Hollywood so they had real life experiences. You look up TV writers from the 60s and they worked on a farm, went to war, worked in a steel mill, was a travelling salesman, then became a writer
Then you had people like Rick Berman and Brannon Braga who didn't have real world experience, but they had to start off as low level people in the industry but had the older ones to learn from
Then the next group comes along (Alex Kurtzman) and gets put in charge of shows like Hercules at 24 years old. So he's not learning from the legends, and not even learning from the apprentices of legends since he didn't come up in the industry under Berman or Braga or even a faggot like Behr



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