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>ashes directly into the gutter of your priceless 13th century castilian grimoire
>stubs cigarette out on the gilded binding
nothin' personnel

>>221092427
Depp was still doing "weird little freak with a job" instead of pirate cosplay, the pacing is pure rainy eurotrash detective kino, and the whole movie feels like it smells like old paper, tobacco, and damp hotel rooms.

Also it understands occult shit is cooler when it's boring rich people, forged engravings, and quiet coincidences instead of CGI demons screaming at the camera. The devil being some smug French whore silently mogging everyone is just the cherry on top.

>>221092427
Mysterious and atmospheric while also being funny and campy at the same time, also Corso is a total wish fulfillment character that the viewer can self-insert as. A book detective who smokes and drinks and fucks hot bitches and is chosen to by Satan to be his personal librarian down in hell and live forever as an immortal demon prince. Lucky bastard

love me some occult thrillers
simple as

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>>221092519
He was trans, Lucifer?

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>>221092475

>>221092427
Everything. Great actors. Fantastic atmosphere. Supreme ASMR conversations. Old books are cool in general. A thousand more little things.

Is the lack of smoking a serious problem in modern movies? I say yes

>>221092427
This movie sucked

>>221094173
Cigarettes and cigars are such great acting props; everything is made cooler-looking by having the character smoke while they do it

>>221094401
>Dark Angel: The Descent
I love that movie

>>221094401
Looks like it's missing Lord of Illusions by Barker

>>221092427
Ghostwriter is superior in every way

>>221092427
it's retarded but the girl is cute

peak atmosphere

>>221092427
not much, it's a mediocre movie that a schizo keeps posting here

>>221094401
all of those suck in comparison and are nothing like the ninth gate

>>221094552
>>221094190
fuck you

>>221092427
Polanski totally ripped off Angel Heart, but of course you retards worship The Ninth Gate instead of the superior kino.

>>221092690

It was smart hiring God-tier DP Darius Khondji (Delicatessen, Se7en, The Beach etc...) !!!FACT!!!

>>221095674
Downloading it right now.
I hope you are right and that it really is kino.

I like everything except the floating magic kung fu and the sex scene at the end

>>221092427
Has anyone read the book? It's actually pretty good and goes into more detail on a lot of stuff.

>>221092427
Supremely comfy film.

>>221095674
Also good.

>>221095674
Wouldn't call it a ripoff, they're both good

>>221092427
>The pacing
>The perfect blend of campy and horror
>The unique shooting locations
>The casting

>>221094401
Good list

>>221094488
It's next to Vidocq (underrated flick a-la Ritchie's Sherlock)

>>221092427
It feels like every French mystery film ever made. I'd recommend some but where to fuckiing start.
Tell No One (Belgian?)
L'Appartment
Choses Secretes
Cache
The Lost Son
Anatomy of a Fall
A Pure Formality (Polanski stars)

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>>221095674
Anon, what if I told you Polanski didn't rip anything off beucase it's based on a book?

>Angel Heart
>DeNiro
>Rourke
Ok, I'm watching kino tonight.

>>221095722
cool i didn’t know that

>>221096655
We're not talking about books, we're talking about kino. It's obvious that Polanski borrowed the comfy, slightly camp occult neo-noir detective vibe from Angel Heart.

the first 30 minutes or so, thats about it

>>221094401
I laughed my ass off watching Angel Heart after seeing this image. It’s such a schizo movie, the dialogue is borderline The Room tier, and the special effects were so comically bad. Great times to be had just don’t expect it to be anything like the ninth gate. I the ninth gate is close to Eyes Wide Shut in terms of an eerie vibe and dream like visuals.

>>221096837
Bro that's literally almost every noir kino. Chinatown?

>>221096949
>I the ninth gate is close to Eyes Wide Shut in terms of an eerie vibe and dream like visuals.
Ironically they both came out in 1999, the last year of 35mm film.

>>221096964
I don't get that vibe from Chinatown at all, Anon.

>>221096964
>Bro that's literally almost every noir kino.
>>221096621
>It feels like every French mystery film ever made.
these

anons discovered french noir today. good for them

>>221092519
wasnt she just a demon

>>221097062
To some

>>221097062
I can't remember the book but I think she's supposed to be Lucifer/Satan in angel form aka a very beautiful human

>>221096320
npc kill yourself

>>221097078
I don't found it that subjective

ooh la la im a sexual french girl i like trains mister

>>221097062
It’s a bit of a “nu-Scott” situation similar to the Deckard human/replicant debate. That is to say that the movie clearly indicates that the woman is the whore of Babylon/demon that is meant to guide the Devil’s chosen seeker to the Ninth Gate. The director apparently meant for her to be the devil. This has caused a split between anons similar to the replicant/human debate except this one is more even.

>>221092519
I feel like Jack Sparrow ended Depp's career.

>>221097062
I think she's literally just a witch. Female (former?) human in league with Lucifer to do his bidding on Earth. Her introduction scene is a lecture on witches and their relation to Satan.

>>221097187
Artistically or financially? Because if Depp had stayed away from Amber Turd he would still be pulling in $20 million dollar paydays making Disneyslop.

>>221097358
He’s okay he just has to stop being retarded with his money. If he still has the majority of his cars, the yacht and residences he should be able to spit out around 50 mil usd in sellable assets.

>>221092427
Langella. Rest of the movie sucks.

>>221097425
Underused actor with a fantastic voice.

>>221094401
Nobody ever suggests Eyes Wide Shut because on the surface it's a very different movie, but they have a lot of similarities. The mansion scene is straight occult (although no devil imagery) and everything after it is full on detective noir. It overall has a very similar comfy feeling. The music and atmosphere are very similar. Even the phony NYC street sets have a similar vibe. EYS is less "jaunty" than The Ninth Gate, but it has plenty of funny moments. And they both are ambiguous enough that you can keep thinking about how to interpret them after they're over.

>>221097425
>>221097449
Agreed, Langella is underrated.

>>221092427
I remember seeing this in the theater and the best part of the screening was the opening credits that went from audible groans to outright heckling as it dawned on us we were going to see all nine gates.
Great movie, I liked it, but it was a nice moment of audience participation.
My favorite part was the guy doing the count from sesame street 'THREE! THHREEEE GATES!"
Jesus fucking christ, the opening of that movie takes forever even when you fast forward through it.

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>>221097173
The 9th gate was her snizz.
Seriously.

>>221097559
That would be absolutely insufferable. No wonder theaters are dying.

>>221097615
It is objectively the longest most boring opening credits sequence in the history of film and it feels like it is 3 and a half hours long.
This also happened in 1999, before you were born.

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>>221096655
The Club... Dumbass...

>>221097744
>This also happened in 1999, before you were born.
says the zoomer so adhd riddled he can't handle a simple opening credits sequence without looking at his phone

>>221097890
>looking at your smart phone
>1999
underage b&

>I like books
>Do you

having the protag be Johnny Depp doing a LITERALLY ME type character and then including a hot mysterious french woman as the built in waifu who might be the devil? or a demon who is going to give him devil pussy for becoming an ubermensch satanmaxxer
like that's really cool and hot
I wish I was like this clever affable treasure hunter investigator guy who "won" the race and got rewarded with Lucifer pussy, like "damn the devil took an earthly form of a hot chick and is fucking me, the devil is hot and she's riding my cock cowgirl style" that's a crazy life achievement

>>221092427
got right
>setting
>tone
>lore
>cast
>cinematography

got wrong
>takes occult religions at face value
>is basically a magical mary poppins fun ride
>loses suspension of disbelief by 2nd act

>>221097100
Nah mate I'm too busy fucking your father up the shitter. But I'll tell you what - if you lick my asshole I'll give it some thought.

>>221096655
Is this worth reading?

Ninth Gate has really masterful worldbuilding, if you listen to Polanski's commentary he constantly points out small CGI interventions to create higher buildings, put fake windows and vistas, change a detail here and there. Every establishing shot serves to enhance the desperation prevailing in the outside world, with junkies accosting you, ominous promenades where you can be hunted and killed, dangerous traffic, working people barely having time to converse with you before going back to the grind; it is also a world that doesn't exist anymore. Watch any Rohmer movie, or even Frantic (1988) and you'll see France that's predominantly white and you have to go to really seedy parts of town to find niggers and Arabs. Not so anymore, and since Ninth Gate is set in 1999, you kinda know what's coming and I think Polanski also knew it wasn't Y2K unless Y stands for Yid aka Talmudic values that European Comission pushed onto the continent, resulting in total and absolute death of Europe that is getting accelerated more than they'd like. This is by the way not a rant but a totally valid addendum to this movie since there's a sense of urgency to get out to step into the light and move away from the drudgery of daily life, which today with AI and nobody reading anything much less buying a book that isn't some celeb AI slop or being able to move anywhere without drones and walkable cities mapping your movement is quite impossible. Corso stepped out of that world just in time but we're doomed to live in it, in this panopticon that will only cease as Gurdjieff said in Beelzebub's teachings, when its resources are finally depleted so they cannot dehumanize us with tech anymore. But that is not our fate, we're going to get fucked worse than Torqia or whatever his name was and certainly feel worse anguish the more datacentres pop up. I say keep watching the movie because it's high art, endlessly replayable, and able to lull us into something that actually once existed.

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How do you answer this?

>>221092519
>>221097062
she was the Whore of Babylon and Corso was Satan living on earth as a human with his memory wiped. it was her job to take him along the journey and bring him home.

>>221100262
Y-yes, please...

>>221100262
>yess yes pelase mommy let me inside I wanna get inside I wanna get inside bareback and bust rawwww devil mommy

>>221092475
The book was askin for a hot poke in the backspine and you know it

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>>221100262
I tell her that maybe we were inside all along
and then I'd just call the dude and be like "yeah, whatever nigga, your book is definitely the real one, whatever."
End result is the same, the dingus burns himself alive, then I show up at his estate sale and scalp his super rare books for fifty bucks.

>>221100277
This was originally my understanding but while you're right about Whore of Babylon - and Polanski even had one special engraving made to show her face (others are from Club Dumas) - Corso isn't Satan (Lucifer). He's someone who for some reason gets chosen and who is being kept on the path of enlightment, which he embraces some 3/4ths into the movie. I thought his styling (pointed beard and moustache) needed to evoke the devil but Polanski just wanted Depp to look older. The real question is why was Balkan jobbed so hard.

>>221100332
>Corso isn't Satan
He's 'the fool' clearly

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>>221100286
>>221100278

>>221097173
>human debate

she literally flies in the movie

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her eyes weirdly magically change bright glowy green at times
isn't "green eyed devil" a saying

>>221099802
i’d like to know as well. i’ve considered reading it for years but something tells me it’s not.

>>221099802
its alright at 2.5x speed

>>221100545
Shakespeare called call jealously the green eyed monster.

>>221097791
Real.

>>221099802
>>221101170
Yes, it's a good read. Mind you it's translated form the original Spanish, but it's still really good and very descriptive at times that you can see the movie play out with basically extra scenes. There's also engravings on different pages of the artwork form the book. (At least in the paperback copy I got years back). It's also not a very long book.

>>221092475
The weakest part of a centuries old book will be the endpapers, assuming it's ever been rebound, because those would be made of newer (shittier) materials. The rest of it you could probably take a dump on and then toss it through a washing machine and it'd be fine. They unironically do not make them like they used to.

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>>221097027
>t.

>>221099802
It sucks. Polanski actually managed to punch up the plot for the film.

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I watch it a few times a year and count it amongst my most comfy.

>>221102483
Me too. Glad to see there are like-minded frens in here.
I also watch the twins and Balkan's library clips on YouTube from time to time.

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>>221096655
>Angel Heart
I was going to watch it, but now I have a dilemma.
Whichst of these kinos do I watch tonight>

>>221102898
id watch pitch black i know its different but it feels just right. angel heart bored me but maybe its youre cup of tea

>>221102955
>pitch black
Still the freshest scifi world this century.
I want more Riddick ofc

>>221092519
AI reply

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>>221092427
>>221102483
>>221102750
Ninth Gate just scratches a particular itch for me like no other movie. I won't attempt to articulate it.

Also I put off watching Ghost Writer for a long time because it sounds so generic but it's really worth watching if you like this. Zero supernatural elements but it's tonally similar in a lot of places. The supernatural stuff, combined with a lot of other little things are what put Ninth Gate in a different league for me though. I can acknowledge it's a very imperfect movie but I have yet to find one that checks as many boxes for me as this one.

I'm reading Foucault's Pendulum right now, a lot of it goes over my head but it's 9th gate style novel kino

>>221096949
You have shit taste! Maybe the Zac Efron remake will be to your toilet seat licking senses!

>>221096987
>1999, the last year of 35mm film.
The fuck are you on? DCP didn't replace 35mm until 2010s.

>>221096289
>Has anyone read the book? It's actually pretty good and goes into more detail on a lot of stuff.
>>>/lit/ is that way
we don't read books here

>>221096289
Yes, but the film is better for dumping the Dumas Club stuff.

>>221092427
boris was kinda cool but he should have helped corso more

>>221103068
>Foucault's Pendulum

I haven't read it but I assume it is (in part) satirizing the story of Rennes-le-Château:

>(1982) The Holy Blood and the Holy Grail by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh, Henry Lincoln
>(1967) L’Or de Rennes by Gérard de Sède, Pierre Plantard, Philippe de Chérisey
>(1950s) Priory of Sion Pierre Plantard

Eco probably was aware of this entire drama when he wrote his novel in the 80s as there was an international sensation around the topic. By the 90s conspiracy theories were becoming very popular and mainstreamed through video games and rediscovery of things like the Illuminatus Trilogy (70s-80s) through message boards and usenet, and there was a mania in popular culture around the turn of the millennium and prophecies, secret societies, the new world order. Eco being a literary hack, probably just wanted to cash in.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-a_yrBGWYs

>>221099438
>>takes occult religions at face value
No, they made the religious cult look like larping retards who got it all wrong.