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Beginning of the End Edition
Previously >>221089699
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>>221095865
Sorry anon... I wasn't fast enough...
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>>221095916
Lmao how did we wait till the end and still got 2 threads at once
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>>221095901
HAIL SATAN
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>>221095901
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>>221095834
the fuck is the context for this image
these days if you say you like japanese comics they will arrest you and throw you in jail
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really sad seeing that one anon desperately trying to force that Scott Adkins meme, but no one ever gives him any (You)s
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>>221096795
Stew and Richard Herring(?)s old show, I assume.
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How the fuck does Tip Toe have an 8.2 on IMDb
It's true, people really do just praise any old slop that has RTD's name attached to it
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>>221096804
I have no idea who Scott Atkins is.
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>>221096864
exactly
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>>221096864
I think he's like a fitness guru/personal trainer guy
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>>221095901
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhymlkPEr5s
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>>221096850
Yeah, but I meant the scene.
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>>221096970
The fucking Billie Piper image is fucking everywhere it's hilarious but I hate it
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>>221096970
Oh, is MrTubOfLardis now acting like he always hated RTD2?
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>>221097099
I agree
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>>221097101
>MrTubOfLardis
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>>221096620
Series 2 was so bad
Without K-9 and the Cyberman 2-parter I would just skip it all together.
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Her silence is deafening.
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>>221097415
grim
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How long until big finish use ai to generate kino eps
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>>221097566
They've already used AI for their covers
For some reason DW fans have some bizarre sheering hatred of literally anything AI though, even the Doctor Who and the Midjourney guy gets constant shit even though his stuff isn't even slop
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>>221097566
>>221097602
Look at that image of Davros and tell me AI isn't shit.
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What a fucking terrible show.

https://youtu.be/XXgnqGTOXTE
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Dugga doo
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>rtd 2.0 was so bad somehow fucking moffat was the best overall show runner

Anything after the tv movie on tv was a mistake
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Have any of the blue-hairs had a moment of reflection that they killed the show, or do they still think it failed because it wasn't progressive enough?
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>>221098998
The argument is generally that RTD is old, and isn't doing "woke" the right way, because of course it is.
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>>221096864
>>221096896
When Deadpool became Deadpool it was Adkins in a Ryan Reynolds mask
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>>221099197
This one I mean
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>>221099019
Real woke has never been tried.
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>>221095901
>have a niche fanbase
>make a show where it only appeals to 5% of that fanbase
They really fucked this up beyond repair
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Marfa so fine.
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>>221097415
>Her
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>>221099458
Yes? Boys can't have long hair, anon.
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>>221097415
This is the last man on Earth who should become a tranny. It's as if fucking Linkara became a tranny!
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>>221099652
It's a mental illness that should be treated instead of indulged in
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>>221099893
Basically yeah. But it's far too profitable for that to happen. Costs a couple hundred grand to troon out, now that's good eatin'.
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>>221099931
Don't pretend you've never put on a wig and lipstick and wanked off to yourself in the mirror, we've all done it.
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if digits doctor who returns before 2030
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>>221099980
Well yeah but that's much more affordable
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>>221100000
NO! YOU FOOL!
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>>221100000
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>>221097415
Who is this
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>>221100000
FUUUUUCK
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>>221100000
HOLY FUARK
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>>221100000
Fuck
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>>221100000
Check'd
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>>221100000
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>>221100000
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really not that impressive, the board is slow this morning
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>>221099893
>treated
With bullets.
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>>221100000
I never doubted.
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>>221100055
Zendaya
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>>221095901
man billie looked way different over the years
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>>221100000
LMAO
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>>221096769
the martial arts guy?
>doctor who fights cybermen 'n shit
I'd watch that
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>>221100000
i kneel
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>>221097566
Stupid niggers. It was awesome to reveal Dalecs as pitiful things inside their burka. Not whatever that is.
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>>221097566
>FUCKING GET OUT OF MY WAY, I HAVE TO DO THIS FOR DONNA!
>YOU CANNOT PREVENT THE TIME WAR. AS MUCH AS YOU MAY WANT TO, YOU WOULD BE CHANGING YOUR PERSONAL HISTORY!
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>>221100329
that's The Master...
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>>221100055
Missy
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>>221100000
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>>221097602
all AI is slop you moron
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>gigantic cultural event around the world with the 50th anniversary
>manage to fuck it up so bad the show is cancelled after another decade
how did they do it
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>>221100734
What race, gender, and sexuality were the main characters then?
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>>221098443
He's a bit fat
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>>221100774
The Doctor?
white, male, asexual
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>>221100000
Its still gonna suck
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>>221101007
>asexual
rose and clara would disagree
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>>221101068
> The Doctor never bent Clara over the Tardis console. :-(
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>>221100000
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I wonder why the Disney deal fell through. Did the show just do that badly they didn't want to fund it anymore?
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>>221101267
The Eurovision episode wasn't fawning enough to Israel.
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Legitimately don't know if RTD is sad the show died or glad he got to upset people he disliked one last time before he killed it.
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>>221101267
Streaming figures were presumably shit. Turns out that ratings do actually matter outside of the state-funded BBC.
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>>221102380
Space Babies killed this show in the cradle.
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>>221100000
Given that they aren’t even bothering to tidy up Davies’ mess before “putting it out to tender”, I’ll be amazed if the show is back on air by 2030.
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>>221095901
With AMC+ having Dr. Who, this general is OFFICIALLY REVIVED@!!!!!!
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>>221096527
>Lmao how did we wait till the end and still got 2 threads at once
There's 3 Trek and 2 Star Wars threads rn.
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>bafflers
>winternox
>village
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time for an actual reboot.
Just skip until the 25th doctor and start from there
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thoughts?
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>>221100000
>"It's the end... but the moment has definitely not been prepared for."
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>>221095901
How do you fix it anons?
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>>221103307
Let it die
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>>221103307
Start the next episode by saying everything post Hartnell was a dream. Then have David Bradley play him until he's 120. Once he dies, have Paterson Joseph play the Second Doctor
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https://strawpoll.com/ajnE1vzAMnW
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>>221103307
I think that we need a based black Doctor.
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>>221103307
'The Next Doctor' thing where he forgets his past incarnations but knows something is missing + The Tardis as an actual woman who is his companion and lover.

And it is very ethereal, liminal space-like walking around in the other parts of the Tardis, and indie dreamcore melancholic.
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>>221103429
like, the TARDIS as a toothy mysterious woman who knows more about him than he remembers.

It's a soft reboot like NuWho. Indie Dream core. Slow blinking lights in the halls of the Tardis.
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>>221103307
>Cast Middle Aged unconventionally attractive white British eccentric as the Doctor
>Cast attractive female companion
>Cast reoccuring male character for Doctor Who to banter with
>Serials are back (at least 3 episodes each story)
>Ignore any continuity beyond "The Doctor is Time Lord who ran away from Gallifrey. He now travels the universe having adventures. He has met some aliens before"
>More Horror based (Zoomers love Horror)
>Hire a chud and a woke person to go through the scripts and take out anything they think its "too political"
Its realy not that difficult
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The TARDIS as a Woman needs to be a companion.
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The TARDIS is the Doctor's true love and anima.

The Doctor starts in a compartment within the TARDIS, having just escaped from a matrix within the TARDIS into the greater TARDIS. His memories are frazzled and a mysterious woman is there in the Indie Dreamcore Hallways.
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>>221096620
this two parter was the only good thing about series 2
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>>221103627
how can you say that about a Tennant Season?
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>>221103307
This but live action.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kt3qZYUPi2Y
WMAF Tardis team.
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Will the RTD2 era be remembered fondly in the years to come?
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>>221103307
re-air Capaldi's regeneration but he regenerates into someone decent other than jodie, and pretend that the jodie-ngubu era didn't exist
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>>221100000
AAAHHHH!
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>>221103646
>Became so woke that it devoured itself
>No show runner will jeopardise their career to touch the series.
Went woke and then went broke. LMFAO
I am sure it was all worth it for the F U DRUMBF episode and the "incel" episode
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>>221103646
This scene was pure comedy gold, how smug they all look. As if they're not reading the laziest bullshit writing in history.
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>>221103646
wtf is that
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>>221103736
A opportunistic spiteful evil ideology, wearing the corpse of the thing you used to love.
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>>221103232
Tony Gilroy please
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Which was worse, Chibnall or RTD2?
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>>221103232
NOT LINDELOF
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>>221100000
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>>221103627
The show’s at its best when it does darker sci-fi/horror and takes itself more seriously. Instead, for the last two years we’ve had stories about farting spaceships, musical drag queens and space Eurovision.
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>>221101256
the 70s van is inspired, the rest is way off.
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>>221103797
RTD2
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>>221097566
I'm still surprised Briggs hasn't managed to convince the BBC to let the animation recreation team animate Big Finish stories in the downtime between new episodes being found.
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>>221103797
Chibnall's bad in that, yeah this is utter shite, but I can still see it's Doctor Who, terrible doctor who that's reads like fanfic, but it's still doctor who.
RTD2 didn't even feel like any form of Doctor Who that came before and felt like Russell just made another one of his queer shows and called it Doccy Who.
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>>221095901
I dropped the show around Capaldi's era, was reading episode summaries in light of the cancellation and it's gobsmacking. Multiple episodes where the villain is a jackass ex boyfriend? Including one where he's turned into a literal wankstain to kill him? Two episodes where the villain is a right wing podcast conspiracy theorist? Every single episode something to do with LGBT stuff?

Like RTD already had plenty of gay stuff in the first season of NuWho, but you still had good episodes. This is like a caricature of woke-type entertainment.
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>>221099212
I'm still amazed they did this to "the merc with a mouth."
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>>221100000
FUCK YOU ANON
FUCK YOUUUUUUUUUUU
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>>221103850
You and I both know the logical save-face pivot the show would do would be to switch to more mature themes and integration of hard science concepts
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>>221103759
Reminder that Rusty doesn't even understand the current LGBTQXYZ movement and thinks trannies and non-binaries are the same thing (beyond them all being mentally ill).
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>>221104904
RTD decided that Doctor Who must be his therapy stress ball. And he didn't wash his hand before squeezing it.
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>>221105119
im sure a redditor would think what you wrote sounds cool
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>>221105130
I wouldn't know.
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>>221105119
>>221105130
redditor here. bro its the coolest thing ive read yoooooo
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>>221096795
Fist of Fun. summat about over-the-top/mongy anime faces. we used to call japanimation 'manga' over here, because it was all released by Manga Video.

you can mock, but look at anons talking about doujins when they mean doujinshis. the fools!
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>>221104904
>Two episodes where the villain is a right wing podcast conspiracy theorist?

that was the one episode where i briefly felt something resembling a twinge of excitement.

it sounds daft, but what let it down was the weird self-censorship thing NuWho has going on. i don't understand why blowing up a spaceship is sometimes fine, other times we're treated to
>you stepped on that slug. a living being! it'll be in the hospital for weeks! that's tantamount to MURDER!

humans can do some shitty stuff. the Torchwood episode 'Countrycide' is too dark for kids, but 8-year-olds understand that adults may point guns at each other and pull the trigger. grandstanding speeches don't automatically create stakes, IMO.
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I was using the wiki the night it stopped working. One day, just... nothing. Shame really.
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>>221105480
Aye
Hopefully some anon has it saved and re-hosts it one day
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A lot of people were saying that the Andies were the best 15th Doctor stories and I for one agree.
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>>221105510
I actually do have all the text from it saved, just no images.
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>>221105480
Are we finally moving off the cancer that is .fandom?
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>>221105602
>finally
>.fandom
You need to be 18 or older to post here.
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Greenis!
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thank fuck it's finally been put out of it's misery.
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>>221105629
Strike a nerve, faggot? There are wiki hosts that don't force you to cover half the page in interactive ads.
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>>221100000
I NEVA WOOD
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>>221105642
Just keep showing your incompetence, there's a good chap.
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>>221105642
>too retarded to even get the point
Figures.
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>>221103797
Chibnall created the conditions to allow for RTD's return. RTD fawned over Chibnall's ideas and thought his time as showrunner was brilliant.
Chibnall is worse because he's also indirectly responsible for RTD2.
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>>221105675
no doubt RTD saw those old chibnall stuff while on lsd
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>>221103797
RTD at least made kino once upon a time. Chibnall's contributions always ranged from mediocre to terrible. Turning the Doctor zesty or even Bi-regeneration isn't one iota is bad as the Timeless Child.
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>>221105675
RTD has to say he liked what Chibs did, he's never openly criticised any eras that much because he wants to be positive about the show. Doesn't mean it's what he really thinks.
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>>221105697
He embraced Chibs' shit in the Giggle.
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>>221098998
>>221099019
I find it funny they were all offended by the space Eurovision episode because RTD hadn't gotten the memo that antisemitism is now a lefty position.
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>>221105642
Doctor Who wiki reads like one of those fandom wikis made exclusively for OCs on an existing property, only people actually paid money to license it. It was exactly where it needed to be.
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>>221103797
RTD2 has episodes that I'll be more than willing to rewatch. Can't say the same for Chibnall.
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>>221105720
it was pretty half-hearted. cheap writing trick, like a quick aside:
>i thought i was half-human on my mother's side, once. or was it my father's? or my great uncle's second cousin, twice removed? WELL, ANYWAY...

that said, i'm glad the finale doubled-down on the whole bigeneration Time-Lords-are-asexual nonsense. livethread was hilarious.
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>>221105805
NL
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>>221105729
RTD didn't even write that one
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>>221105779
they're bullying you/him because they're talking about the /who/ wiki, not the TARDIS Wiki.

don't worry lad, i'm always here to spoonfeed when there's wiki drama afoot. rare case of a misstep moving AWAY from Wikia/Fandom shite.

https://tardis.wiki/wiki/Sixteenth_Doctor
...no? why does one fan's autism > my personal autism? that's not how autism works, you autists.
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>>221105897
Goddammit anon stop spoonfeeding the kiddos.
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please post RTD toddlers images, I can't find mine
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>>221105897
>https://tardis.wiki/wiki/Sixteenth_Doctor
>...no? why does one fan's autism > my personal autism? that's not how autism works, you autists.
Not sure what your point is here. Are you annoyed they're actually calling the Billie Doctor the Sixteenth Doctor instead of some cope alternative?
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>>221105919
You're welcome.
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>>221105181
Wait have the redditors finally stopped pretending to like the current nonsense or is it all just "wrong kind of woke" apologetics
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what is that fella doing there?
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>>221105946
Gomez doesn't even look like herself here. She's hot.
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The Doctor Who wiki is starting to get rid of all the fanfic slop anyway
The usual suspects who forced that have now all fucked off to the Jenny Everywhere wiki, which gives them the free rein to use as a random sandpit they've been yearning for
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>>221105931
>Are you annoyed they're actually calling the Billie Doctor the Sixteenth Doctor instead of some cope alternative?

i damn well am, anon. i've read their arguments in the Talk page, it doesn't feel democratic, far more like 'boldname123 gets to decide.'

surely it's obvious to anyone they've explicitly gone out of their way NOT to state she's the Sixteenth Doctor. even if she 100% is in the next story they write, even if she immediately regenerates to the Seventeeth, then the Eighteenth: at this moment in time, the cope alternative is the correct alternative.

i expected better of wiki types tbqh.
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>>221106011
>i damn well am
im not
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>>221106011
>>221106015
who cares? and why
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>>221106011
The Doctor regenerated into her. She's the Doctor.
Stop coping like a redditor and embrace the shitshow.
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>>221106035
and she will have her own BF range
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>>221106011
If Tardis Wiki were around in 2005 would you be arguing that they shouldn't call Eccleston the Ninth Doctor because there's no confirmation he is the Ninth? Even if by all common sense he is.
Also, what would you even call the page? Fucking 'Woman (The Reality War)'? That's just retarded.
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>>221105982
>the Jenny Everywhere wiki

this place is so funny. it's one of those 'internet ideas' someone had to have eventually, but they're just so into it. something about the idea is like crack to them. i'm very glad it exists.
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>>221106052
I can't wait!
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>>221106015
>>221106029
>>221106058
she's not Sixteen until they say she is.

>>221106035
>Stop coping like a redditor and embrace the shitshow.
this is fair.
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>>221106086
16th Doctor Chronicles played by Beth Chalmers
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>>221106111
the numbering can be discussed
but regeneration was onscreen on channel 1
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>>221105885
Yep, that would be this extremely feminine female (male)
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What number would the post-bigeneration 14's regeneration be given?
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>>221106177
>bigeneration
not to be mentioned again
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>it is January 1970
>we never saw 2 regenerate into 3
For all we know another guy took the Doctor's place. They didn't EXPLICITLY tell us Pertwee was the real Doctor now, did they?
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>>221106133
>but regeneration was onscreen on channel 1

there's precedent for that.
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>>221106204
cringe. you are not allowed into the hivemind now btw
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>>221106211
elab
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>>221105532
Based
I bet 90% of those images are salvageable between 4plebs and what anons have saved on their hard drives
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>>221105869
NL? What does that mean?
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The numbering system doesn't make any sense if you consider the Timeless Child and pre-Hartnell Doctors like The Fugitive Doctor.
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>>221106240
probably some indian keyboard symbols. i suggest ignoring them
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>>221106240
Shooty Lover
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>>221106204
they could have just recast the bloke, the Time Lords made an idle threat for the lulz. but in 'The Three Doctors' Sergeant Benton asks about it.

canon.
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>>221106227
Meta-whatsit fella.
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>>221106252
>canon
Canon doesn't mean shit these days.
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>>221106270
he was counted as regeneration as well
when 11th was croaking
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>>221100228
zendaya is a dog of a woman but a real woman
this is man
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>>221106281
canon is limiting for the imagination
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>>221106238
You don't want to know what's on our hard drives m'lad.
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>>221106297
How did that work considering the bigeneration was retroactively applied to every single incarnation of the Doctor when it happened?
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>>221106244
NuWho didn't really care about the numbers until they kept hitting us with 'Eleven' everywhere.

now the rule seems to be it's when he/she/they/ze decides to be CALLED 'The Doctor'. tbf you could argue that about The Valeyard.

but purely out-of-universe, for the sake of an internet article? we have TV credits, we have press releases, we have interviews. it's not even speculation.
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>>221106318
Fuck off Rusty. I swear to god.
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>>221106325
>bigeneration was retroactively applied
billie regen = shown onscreen
this crap = small mention
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>>221106011
The problem is that the show doesn't have a way to tell us what happened now, so she's forced into the sixteenth Doctor role no matter what the intention was. The intention was probably going to stop her actually being counted as a Doctor given they didn't treat it the usual way but we have to take it at face value now.
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Why does RTD hate the idea of the Valeyard so much? Even he knows The Doctor has a dark side, he gave us glimpses of it when 9 got pissed off
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>>221106363
We didn't explicity see 15 not bigenerate.
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>>221106370
he like to subvert stuff and lads
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>>221106388
kek
I love how absurd this discussion is getting.
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>>221106388
>We didn't explicity see 15 not bigenerate.
the all previous regens rectroatively part you didn't
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>>221106370
>The Doctor has a dark side
As you can see in my "Animal I Have Become - Doctor Who" tribute video (now on YT!)
It's not a joke. It exists. I made it...
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retroactive bigeneration is as valid as
>I am half human in my mother's side
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>>221106370
The Valeyard's lame. Everything he can do, the Master can do better.
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>>221106461
>lore breaking shit vs harmless tidbit that might explain why the Doctor is obsessed with Earth
>as valid
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>>221106479
>The Valeyard's lame. Everything he can do, the Master can do better.
well, he has the Doctor's memory
that could be used with utter malice
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>>221106491
fellas wore as pissed off in 96
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>>221106520
I know.
That bigen shit must have given them all an aneurysm.
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>>221106479
The Master is a tooth right now
Valeyard was shown to target the Doctor directly, and their inherent connection on a biological level means he'd already know every trick and mind game the Doctor would try to pull. The Master more often will drag the Doctor into a plan he already created without active targeting
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>>221106491
My view was that the Doctor was obsessed with Earth because Susan loved Earth and 60s culture. He kept returning to Earth because he had no other home planet, and it made him feel close to her despite her being dead.
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>>221106457
what the flying fuck, why are there SEVERAL of these?
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>>221106630
>Susan
>dead
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I miss Elisabeth Sladen.
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>>221106638
There's even a MLP version for what I assume is the Doctor Who parody pony. It's a relic of when AMVs and the like were popular.
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It was quite funny seeing that clip from Tip Toe of two gay characters sitting under public pride flag decorations played by two established gay actors written by an famous gay writer talking about how homophobia is worse now than it was in the 90s
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As loathed as I am to say it, Moffat's the only one who'd be able to write the BBC out the mess Russell left them in. Let him have two specials to fix Russell's mess and then have him ship it off to a new creative team. Don't even need him to be the producer for the episodes, just let him write the script.
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>>221106733
every bad idea has the word "just" in it.
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>>221106733
Knee Bent
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>>221106638
Is there a problem?
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>>221106770
if we fight like animals
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discuss something
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>>221106971
Anon, discuss something
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Do we really like monster of the week?
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>>221107000
As a weekly thing, sure, but it's not bingeable.
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>>221104935
I wouldn't be surprised if some Exec was shown a picture of Deadpool and told about "The Merc with a Mouth" and thought "HE DOESN'T HAVE A MOUTH! BRILLIANT!" because of the mask then demanded that in the movie.
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>>221106662
Aye
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>>221100275
Yeah Scott Adkins
A buff ass kicking Doctor
Give him a busty companion and the show would rocket back to the top
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>>221107000
It's the best format and enhanced with light serialisation.
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>>221100000
dios mio...el wilderness millennia
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>>221106318
People like seeing cause and effect happen without some tard throwing up his hands and saying "it's all fake anyway."
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>>221106479
Master is the Doctor's fallen friend and what happens when a Timelord with similar resources to himself goes sour. Celestial Toymaker is what the Doctor could be if he decided to truly abuse all the resources he had amassed and become a higher existence at the cost of taking all meaning away from his actions. Valeyard is all of the Doctor's worse traits without the good to balance them out.
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Trial of a Time Lord is fucking garbage and it took novels and audios to actually elaborate on the Valeyard more than just Pip 'n' James's asspull explanation which was a last minute rewrite on Bob Holmes's unfinished script
God damn what a shitshow.
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I cannae be suffering nae mair o'these homosexual Rwandan refugee Doctors

I wannae proper Scottish Doctor again like, ye ken?
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Dark 13th
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>>221107325
But twitter told me Ncuti had a strong Scottish accent?
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>>221107388
While I wouldn't mind a dark 13, this just looks like a zombie.
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>>221107411
The worst part was him calling his comapnions 'babes'
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>>221107240
i like the overall idea tbqh. several stories in one, linked by the overall framing device of the court case. i can't explain why The Valeyard is a future incarnation or chasing him at the end either. it comes from that same writing-place as
>how do we finish this one?
>hmm...what if Dr Who and The Master were brothers all along?

for me, it's that the Time Lords became too silly. it outright begins with Six saying he's the President of the Planet because oh yeah, that, but nah m8. they held a vote off-screen and decided you'd missed one too many meetings.

if it would be daft in a novel, it's even dafter on-screen.
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>>221107501
Judy's having AI redo some of her old gens, I'm assuming. Back when that Dall-E shit looked inhuman.
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>>221107604
Throughout the entire thing the Valeyard is just "muahaha I'm le evil prosecutor" and him somehow being a future version of the Doctor is just sprung up out of nowhere in the final part. Stupid. There's no explanation for how he suddenly escapes the Matrix except so he can turn and laugh at the camera. Idiotic.
I liked Season 22 but I absolutely detested Trial.
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>>221107636
>AI gens would still look like this if Stable Diffusion hadn't eaten Crayon's breakfast
lmao
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RIP Tom Baker
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>>221100000
Guess we're regenerating soon
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>>221103646
>shame you're not a woman anymore
>standing next to a man
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comments on Jodie on BF
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>>221108137
Would be shit. You can quote me on that.
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doctor who sex with the brigadier
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>>221108199
>mustache burns
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>>221108193
she already did, bro, many
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Doctor Who has a Rącism Problem. Let's Talk

Duh, but esp for black characters. I noticed recently that every black main character in NuWho had a storyline where they specifically suffer under the events that the master concocts...and that is f-ing crazy. both RTD and Moffat seem incapable of writing women of color to the same degree they write their white male protagonist. Ncuti owns my heart - and Whittaker and Capaldi offer so much depth to the franchise outside of that weird "young or older man/significantly younger woman" romantic stereotype that dominates DW media. I just think it's cool af to see non romantic main storylines within the central cast. while I don't love the 9th doctors finale with rose due to the age difference, Eccelston offers a working class perspective to the show that makes it so familiar to any audience.

in my current rewatch, I noticed the master (Koschei) has been violent towards every, single, black protagonist on this show. that's really awful. Dhawan!master is not excluded from unfortunately - but i think his work as Koschei focused much more on the him and the doctor rather than \~just\~ hurting her friends.

so, go figure that an old British show (though crated by Chinese and Jewish immigrants) has a terrible history with its black leads. Just maybe this new era of doctor who can actually honor the origins of which is came from? that is: doctor who was always political. to keep the nature of this world alive, doctor who needs to continue to be politically progressive and tell black stories in a way that HONORS them. maybe Fugitive Doctor (played by the wonderful Jo Martin) can make an appearance for more than 15 minutes per episode
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>>221108278
No way? How garbage are they, then?
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Only a Japanese guy in his 20s could save this shitshow
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>>221108307
I am focusing on listening to the old Tomorrow people series now, soon I gonna listen to hers
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>>221108209
five rounds rapid (in my ass)
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>>221098476
>CHABAD theme song
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>>221099980
That’s a bit gay, lad
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RTD2 shat the bed so hard people are starting to think Chibbers was a good showrunner.
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>>221108388
Chib was the least coomer of all runners
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>>221108406
He's the kinda guy who only fucks in the dark. You know what I mean.
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>>221108498
A pipe to pipe bushman?
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>>221103232
>Damon Lindeloff
Can u not?
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>>221095901
This what Doctor Who used to be about. Just a top English white bloke and his peak slag.
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now is the perfect time to reall all Lawrence Miles books
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>>221104976
they can do that with a good writer. Lindeloff only understands mystery box slop.
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>>221100000
What the fuck
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>>221098476
>Jan 12 2005
>EXTERMINUTE!
>Dr Who return hit by shortage of dwarf actors
>
>FILMING of the new Doctor Who series has been hit by a shortage of midget actors.
>Bosses wanted them to play tiny blue aliens - but most have been snapped up for the new Charlie and the Chocolate Factory movie and to play Gringotts Bank staff in the new Harry Potter film.
>Dr Who executive producer Russell T Davies said: "It's very difficult to employ persons of restricted growth when, as our producer Phil Collinson says, `Bloody Gringotts and the Chocolate Factory are filming at the same time'."

poor little fellas had to wait 20 years to play goblins again, and you're COMPLAINING?
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>>221108733
>persons of restricted growth
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>>221107411
Not allowing Ncuti to use his natural Scottish accent, just like Tennant wasn't allowed to, was just another example of the colonialist little Englander bias at the BBC.
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>>221108756
go back to the forum
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>>221108388
Here's my two cents.

Chibs was reliably mediocre. If you can get past the Quirk Chungus Doctor and the Timeless Child, the Chibs era's worst crime is just being boring.

RTD2 was so aggressively globohomo'd it bordered on self parody. And worse than that it constantly lectured and belittled its audience while simultaneously pandering to them with the return of more pointless "classic" villains like Omega and the Rani (only to ruin them).

Both are shit, but I'd have to go for Chibs if only because it's more honest. The Chibs era is basically aware that it's crap, whereas RTD2 is so unbearably SMUG - it's absolute dross that thinks it's genius.
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My take, approach Grant Morrison about either writing for or producing the show.
He's a fan, he wrote some good comics back in the day, that Brave New World show he produced was okay. May as well give it a shot.
The only monkey's paw, is he thinks he's a gender non-binary now, and we might just end up with more RTD2 nonsense.
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>>221108756
I don't like those.
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>>221108781
right now we need the most bread and butter dw
Nigel Fairs would do it
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>>221108756
tongue-in-cheek, surely.
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>>221108777
I dunno, I think retconning the Doctor to literally be a black girl who was enslaved by the space British empire is about the most disgustingly woke thing they've ever done.

RTD2 is just sad, in the way that a 60 year old drag queen is sad.
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>>221108781
We'd need a good tard-wrangler, but it could work.
But it needs to be more Multiversity and less Final Crisis.
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>>221108849
But Chib is not outspoken with the woke
it seems that he was pressured into it
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Only episodes I've enjoyed since Capaldi were boom, dot and bubble, and lucky day.
73 Yards was okay, but I didn't actively enjoy it and the lazy NOT Farage clone who inexplicably wanted to nuke za world really ruined it.
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>>221108883
Kerblam was a perfect 7th doctor story
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I liked in Lucky Day when Pete McTighe blamed right wing outrage podcasts on all of the world's problems, and seethed over people who don't put their faith 100% in the government, and even had someone do a J6 on UNIT HQ
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>>221108781
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=As2sMgm0Szo
It was weird how this failed to make any kind of stir. It was an okay show if I remember.
Admittedly, I did drop off and forget to watch it after about the third episode, but I do that with everything.
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I can't believe you actually watched homobame
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I would watch cbeebies story hour if it had a Doctor Who label on it.
Which it has and I did.
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>>221108883
the way these people over-hype Farage and Trump always gives them away. They have no idea what these men actually stand for, and how genuinely milquetoast they are.
If Farage ever gets into power, he will most likely be another Cameron(if not another Boris). He's a nothing.
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>>221108777
>Quirk Chungus Doctor
Sounds about right

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pYQGkM2EoF0
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>>221109007
Nah, Farage would genuinely fuck the NHS, but they've been waiting to put it down for decades at this point.
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>>221097602
everyone except jeets and investors hate ai, especially ai art
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>>221109037
He's not going to launch the nukes though. He's not going to open concentration camps.
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how would you react?
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>>221109087
Kick her in the stomach and run away
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>>221109098
violence is bad
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I love Tall Red Haired Woman with prominent front teeth and prominent clavicle so much.
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>>221109137
be more specific
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>>221109077
He should though
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>>221109157
yeah, that's why I'm not voting for him.
Jobsworth...
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>>221108946
I didn't.
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I finished rewatching the Capaldi era. It's above average but nothing special. It is somehow less fun but more kino than Smith's era, if that makes any sense. Something like Heaven Sent isn't fun the way something like The Eleventh Hour was but it's more kino. Anyway it's a 7/10 for me which is definitely way higher than everything that came after.
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>>221109189
ideas+plot > comfy+fun
unless you are gay
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>>221109137
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>>221109145
what is your aim with this message? Does the appearance ring a bell?
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>>221108883
How on earth do you bring yourself to keep watching?

I can't even last two shit episodes into a tv series usually
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>>221109188
based
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>>221109213
Being comfy is irrelevant to me, but fun is necessary. The worst example for me would be series 9 which I guess on a literary story level is interesting and heavy, but it just isn't fun. There is not a single episode in series 9 I would genuinely call fun. Something like series 4 has way more fun episodes.
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>>221108883
d&b was shit
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>>221109230
too much gum, I'm imagining moreso that cute front teeth peek.
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>>221109230
It's crazy how good AI is getting.
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>>221109189
it's an awkward era to assess, because some of it is 11/10 peak nuWho, and some of it just doesn't land.
It was never an enormous disaster though. People were just butthurt because he was oogleh, and the writers trusted the audience to handle some slightly more grown up themes, and they could not handle this.
It levels up from a show aimed at eight year olds, to a show aimed at 14 year olds, and Doctor Who fans were deeply confused and concerned by this.
>where is my le smily man? Why isn't he fixing everything by saying science words and telling people they'e brilliant?
Anyway, I could go on.
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>>221109266
Correct opinion.
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>>221109266
>9 I would genuinely call fun
I love lake/flood, but I reckon what can make people not enjoy that much due overused concepts
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>>221109305
wow
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>>221109305
when the Saxon began to hate...
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>>221109305
Hair's too short.
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>>221109285
The stuff that doesn't land truly stank, though. At least to me. The era felt like a bizarre alternation between very high tier 'central' episodes like let's say Mummy of the Orient Express, and dogshit filler like the one when earth becomes an overgrown garden.
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>>221100000
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>>221109305
Gravitas overload
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>>221109338
yeah, the whole Arya Stark story arc is just nothing. It doesn't work.
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>>221109305
Imagine Jodie or Ncuti doing this scene. That's right, you can't.
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>>221109357
Jodie could, but would need an amazing director
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>>221109354
I was refrring to Forest of the Night but yeah you're right the Arya Stark shit sucked mostly because she's a charisma vacuum. Why on earth did Moffat cast that goblina? The only time she was convincing on screen is when she shut her mouth and looked frightened.
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>>221109354
It could have worked, but Maise is a fucking talentless goblin.
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>>221109400
>Forest of the Night
is not that bad, but stretches suspension of disbelief
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>>221109409
Good shot though.
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>>221109305
*cums*
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>>221109420
>>221109420
>>221109420
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>>221109189
A lot of retards online think it's either pure golden age or total feces, nice to see someone else who recognizes it's simply alright overall.
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>>221109305
What a chud Nazi
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>>221108777
Don't forget Sutekh
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>>221109305
The Doctor and the Day of the Rope
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>>221096863
Practically every TV show and TV movie are massively overrated on IMDb.
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>>221106204
Pertwee is wearing Troughton's exact costume from The War Games when he falls out of the Tardis. He said he almost passed out IRL due to him being 6'3" having to wear 5'7" Troughton's clothes.



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