Where are the contemporary film stars that embody "healthy masculinity"? Also, who were the stars of the past that perpetuated unhealthy masculinity?
>>221177197nigga looks like she got aids
>>221177197What the fuck is healthy masculinity supposed to be?
>>221177197When will manlets learn?
>>221177231>"To me, healthy masculinity would be, well, you know what — healthiness for anyone to just, you know, love themselves; be able to care for themselves; ideally get rest when they can, you know, like, just the practical basic — drink water, like, eat a banana. You know?" said Page. "Also just, you know, doing what you can to be intentionally and mindfully not letting yourself get, like, swayed or twisted by the rules that I feel like end up, like, leading to so many of the problems that we see that are, you know, do get inflicted by toxic masculinity, violence and abuse, just general cruelty."
>>221177197I thought Adam in Masters of the Universe was brilliant. Except the part where Teela friendzones him, that shit didn't even make sense.
>>221177197>who were the stars of the past that perpetuated unhealthy masculinity?Rock Hudson, Brad Davis, Anthony Perkins, Vincent Price, David Carradine, etc.
>>221177248Poorly said but accurate. Men need therapy too.
>>221177231Asking your wife’s bull to spot you at the gym
>>221177231in 2026? Being a rich woman so spoiled by life that they just decide to 'switch' gender and decide that gaslighting everyone around them is the way to spend the rest of their lives. And we're supposed to not call it mental damage. Clown fucking world. Honk. Honk.
>>221177258Mental illness doesn’t exist, it’s a psy op by the Jews.
>>221177197There's no way this fucked up goblin thinks she looks better like this than she used to.
>>221177258Nobody needs therapy
>>221177258>expecting some retard who has the same taco bell tuesday shits as you to help you with your problems magicallyLmao.
>>221177258That shit is just a rambling word salad.
>>221177267I hear voices tho
>>221177251>I thought Adam in Masters of the Universe was brilliant.You are an imbecile. Probably also a leftist
>>221177284No you don’t. That’s a lie that Jews told you. They call me autistic and depressed, tell me I should take my antidepressants so I can be a good goyim puppet, I say that they’re the ones who are autistic and depressed. Kikes.
>>221177258>>221177248If anything this is a demonstration of the uselessness of modern therapists. She probably spent hundreds of thousands on therapy in her life, the end result is a grotesque, butchered body and the insight that men should drink water, eat banana, and should be woke
>>221177267Protip: never ever go to a Jewish therapist. They just want your money. >>221177273YOU need therapy. Stop trying to tough it out, be a REAL man and deal with your problems. >>221177275It's not about that, it's about skill development. We're not supposed to live like this. Are brains are not evolved for cellphones, social media, and doordash. In evolutionary terms that shit arrived like a minute ago. Dealing with the difference between what your brain expects the world to be and what the world actually is takes a skillset. And your parents don't have it so they couldn't give it to you. Hell boomers are too far gone for therapy to even do anything. But you're not. Learn what your brain needs to be healthy and happy and then learn what you need to do to give it to it.
>>221177248>healthy masculinity is when it's not toxic masculinityCircular shit, as usual
>>221177316>YOU need therapy.Therapy is like hypnotism. It only works on people who believe in it.
>>221177293I don't really know what to do with that. Did you even see the movie? >>221177312>She probably spent hundreds of thousands on therapy in her lifeAnd has a bank account in the seven figures even tho he's a 5'0 manlet who doesn't even have a dick. Women get therapy. Women are thriving. Men don't get therapy. Men are bitching about women on the internet. Figure it the fuck out men.
>>221177248FOID
>>221177312kek, Livia's assessment remains undefeated.
>>221177316The jew therapist on the sopranos was the only good one
>>221177338Yeah. Number 1 mistake is expecting the therapist to fix you. They can't do that. What they can do is help you find the skills to fix yourself.
>>221177312Its a big club anon, and we aint in it. >>221177293please leave the thread and let people with more than 5 brain cells rubbing together talk
>>221177349That's fiction nonny. You live in the real world where you have a real human brain that wasn't designed to live in the real world.
>>221177231Being a modern feminist
>>221177316Brother im old enough to see where shit is going, nobody under 30 knows how to TALK like a human being, theres no therapy for that, people are straight fucking retarded, with trannies and pedos and religious gun nuts running wild, everyones gone fucking mental, therapy aint helping shit, we need a societal CLENSE, but it aint happening without the comet
>>221177378Absolutely not. Those guys are the least healthy of all. But that's not to say the other extreme is any better. American politics is mental illness with a megaphone.
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>>221177385unlighten us what the religious gun nuts are doing please, I haven't seen this particular boogieman causing much havoc lately personally
>>221177197get in loser
>>221177405Nah banning books in the states with highest poverty and already lowest education, what coudl go wrong, just pray! Horseshoe theory in play, far right and far left meet int he middle and make fucktarded babies, probably like you since youre wondering how morons might affect society somehow
>>221177341>Ellen Page>ThrivingLol. Lmao
>>221177424>banning booksyou actually fell for that?
>>221177363>Its a big club anon, and we aint in itWhat are you talking about? The club of victims of therapy?
>>221177385Straight, I'm trans (MtF). And by the FAR the most shocking thing that I learned during transition was how different the advice I started getting from peers was. Women are taught self-care almost religiously. It is CONSTANTLY drilled into them that they need to take care of themselves first. Men are taught the absolute fucking lie of "personal responsibility". As though you're supposed to forget about your own problems, you're not even supposed to have emotions, you're supposed to just be the robot that fixes everything for everyone else. And your entire sense of self-worth rests on that. It's BULLSHIT. It's is just a complete and total fabrication made up by people who did in fact owe you a quality upbringing, didn't give it to you, feel really fucking guilty about that, but are too fucked up themselves to confess and say sorry. What the world actually wants from you is to be healthy, happy and kind. And I will bet actual money that you've never once been told that by someone who is supposed to care about you.
>>221177197Only listened to a tiny excerpt where she wants to highlight that she is oh so masculine but not in a toxic way, y'know? and she goes "when I started taking T I was like Raawwr, but that doesn't mean I just started grabbing people without their consent." How decent of her. And then I remembered excerpts from her book that have been posted here. Some of the most crass, vulgar and horny writing I've ever seen.
>>221177432Elliot Page isn't a woman sweetheart. He volunteered for the same shit soup you live in.And as a five foot nothing dickless manlet, he's getting treated like it.
>>221177248FTMS say shit like this then say "Why am I not perceived as a man?" No man, or at least no straight man, is thinking this shit.
>the part about "alphas" and grabbing your friend's "genitals"I guess I've never had a real friend.
>>221177197"actress" eliot page? either the mainstream media would say actor eliot page or a troll blog site self-identifying as 'news' will call her actress ellen page.why go half way?
>>221177231Agreeing with women on everything and anything, if you disagree with a woman that's toxic masculinity
>>221177451Ive been told im a nice guy my whole life and I havent felt the touch of a woman since 2012. Being nice is for dipshits who dont know better, like me. Dont be me, go fucking do something in the world and slay some pussy.
>>221177446just two more weeks>>221177451guys also dont think about gender at all, sorry you think girls have it easier in life and you felt the need to switch genders, it aint gonna help your life out, a girls life is only easy if shes pretty, ugly girls have a shit life just like the rest of us, except they get fucked more often
>>221177248>Healthy masculinity is when its not unhealthy masculinity.Tremendous insight! How come nobody else ever figured this out?!
>>221177491Because you can legally change your name. Theres no law against misgendering in an internet article. Yet.
>>221177503Sweety, I'm into men. And I really do feel for you. You can't even comprehend how much my heart bleeds for you. I'm BEGGING you, get therapy, start working on yourself, recognize the toxic things in your life that are making you sick (politics, social media, dating apps, unhealthy habits, anger, etc), and start your personal journey back to health. Nobody can walk your path for you. I'm sorry, that's just not how it works. But a good therapist can help you figure out the map.
>>221177231beard oilbaconbourbonbusting crusts
>>221177248>healthy masculinity is eating a banana
>>221177248>healthy masculinity is being a woman
>>221177341>Did you even see the movie?NtaNobody did
Leftists are so god damn retarded, they eat a banana and drink a glass of water and plant a tomato and think that they just invented something grandiose, a new way of life that no heterosexual man has ever thought of before. Like these fuckers in their shitty NY apartments with a basil leaf growing on their kitchen counter and upcycled underwear are somehow better human beings than 99% of people to ever live.
>>221177618I did. It was really good! Like I didn't even know hollywood was capable of this any more good. ESPECIALLY after the Kevin Smith abomination, that shit was pure sewage. And then along comes this almost as if to literally humiliate kevin back into an eating disorder.
>>221177231>First lesson...
>>221177248Holy shit the test fried her fucking brainShe talks like a total retard man
>>221177632No rapist ever ate a banana
>>221177632Stop fucking falling for American politics. They make tens of billions of dollars from baiting your into this shit. And that's not even including the silicon valley mental illness for profit shit. Listen to Iroh. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WCQEhe3TYTI
>>221177671>I did. It was really good! Like I didn't even know hollywood was capable of this any more good.The movie already bombed hard. You can stop shilling this shit flick.Nobody will ever be convinced that it's secretly good.
>>221177700This is a shit on Elliot Page thread that exists for some reason. Not a masters of the universe shill thread. I'm telling you it's good. Dredd 2012 bombed too, and then 5 years later everyone was screaming for a sequel. This is that all over again.
>>221177197Mocked where?
>>221177424What books did they banned?
>>221177248She’s talking about mens’ health, she didn’t even understand the question
>>221177231Not being an angry little incel creep
>>221177456IntrestingI am a male and I have never raped anyone. Am I an enlightened and healthily masculine man?
>>221177248
>>221177556Why in the hell would you think anybody should take advice from a troonYou literally crossdress, suck cock, and have cut off your own balls. Yet YOU are telling people to go to therapy? Fucking clownworld man
>>221177722Would you say that living on nothing but beer, cigars and red meat because that's what men do is healthy masculinity? What about never having a prostate exam because it's gay? Or never wearing a seat belt?
>>221177676Poor kitty is scared
>>221177248Bunch of vague general-ness because xir doesn't actually know what it's like to be a man.
>>221177341>Women get therapy. Women are thriving.>Men don't get therapy. Men are bitching about women on the internet.Women have had their brains completely subsumed by the tiktok hivemind. They are also on the internet bitching about men. Tl;dr lmao.
>>221177248>eat a bananaThe last nigga that tried was murdered by cops taking turns kneeling on his windpipe.
>>221177248This is legitimately what ChatGPT tells you for mental health advice. Including the em dash, lmao.
>>221177757Based cops
>>221177396A legit shrink would put her on Thorazine
>>221177248>love themselves
>>221177738>Yet YOU are telling people to go to therapy?Yeah and listen to my story. I've been on this website for 23 fucking years, you are my friends and I love you more than anything. I've seen the world from your perspective, and I've seen the world from a different one. Stop torturing yourself! You're not punishing the world, you're not punishing me. You're screaming into the void, and it doesn't even notice. What matters is YOU. You matter to me, and you need to matter to yourself.
>>221177712>m telling you it's good.And I'm telling you are shill and the movie is fucking shit and woke, and nothing like He-ManNow move on, shill
>>221177753TikTok isn't real sweetheart. It's showing you what it thinks will get a reaction from you, and it has an endless supply of obnoxious retards to be obnoxiously retarded to upset you. That's how it makes money. But what are you getting out of that deal other than dying early as a virgin?
>>221177618Good meme.
>>221177807Just fucking pirate it then. IDGAF.
>>221177712>Dredd 2012 bombed too,Forgot to add that Dredd was good and not woke, on top of not doing any of the shit MOTU did to piss on the source material.That's why it's beloved and He-Man has just a bunch of paid shills
>>221177676Everyone was hurt during the making of this movie.
>>221177793>What matters is YOU.And what matters to him is getting virtue (You)s by doing the same sad shit every day of his life. Disinclined to regard such a creature as mattering, myself.
>>221177810>TikTok isn't realyou can instantly disregard anyone who says anything like this. 100% of women in my age group are on tiktok and women are impressionable retards being influence by it. It is very much real. The VAST majority of modern relationships are formed through online dating too now. The internet is very real and it's affects on the world are very real. "the internet isn't real guiz!" is cope that was only true 10+ years ago
>>221177731So healthy masculinity is agreeing with leftshit of the week.But that would make the overwhelming majority of people little incel creeps!
>>221177825MOTU is good and not woke. You're going to figure this out eventually, so here's my I told you so for when Adam punches Skeletor's head off.
>>221177757>murdered by cops taking turns kneeling on his windpipe.He died from cardiac arrest like twenty minutes after that.
>>221177732It depends. Did you cry when restraining yourself from raping?
>>221177793I'm already fine you dumb idiotI love myself more than you love yourself lolIf you loved yourself you wouldn't be trans you baka ass motherfuckerWhy do I get the feeling like therapy is what made you a troon lol
>>221177741Would you say that that's how men perceive masculinity?
>>221177827>himWho are you talking about? I think the world would be a much better place if people started virtue signalling about men's issues a little bit more. >>221177829>100% of women in my age group are on tiktok and women are impressionable retards being influence by it. It is very much real. The VAST majority of modern relationships are formed through online dating too now.Yeah, silicon valley is cancer. Not going to disagree for a second there. But you sucking up the cancer isn't helping. You need to free your own mind.
>>221177847Well, I hate women and don't want to be near them, so I'm actually happy when I'm not raping them because it means I'm not near them. Maybe tears of joy??
>>221177857You're actually just very stupid and have no idea what you're talking about anon, I'm going to be real with you.
>>221177853Some men, certainly.
>>221177817>IDGAF
>>221177810It takes about 1 month between the latest ebonic or retarded screen gesture appearing on tik tok and the women I work with repeating it with a smug look.
>>221177826>And that is a good thing.
>>221177839>MOTU is good and not woke.We already established that the opposite is true, shill.Now go detransition elsewhere
>>221177880Classic mexican parenting
>>221177880kek
>>221177859Fair enough
>>221177741>living on nothing but beer, cigars and red meat because that's what men doThat's called being a brainwashed retard, like getting surgery to imitate masculinity.If you end up living on nothing but beer, cigars and red meat without being influenced by stereotypes that's healthy retardation, you're an oldschool traditional retard instead of a brainwashed retard.
>>221177396this is one of those that should kill themselves
>>221177849>Why do I get the feeling like therapy is what made you a troon lolNo, I was literally like you. I refused to get any help at all while I lived in my own filth, never going outside, posting my dumbshit meaningless politics on /tv/ as if this thread wouldn't be erased forever in 3 days. You think you're transphobic, you have no idea the amount of hate and rage I was able to fit into 2,000 characters. Then my egg cracked and I realized I don't owe the world a man. I don't owe the world anything. I owe myself whatever shot at a life worth living I can pry out of the world. Which is not easy for a tranny, even harder for an autistic one. But I will take what I can get. It's my life and I choose to live it.
>>221177894>Classic mexican parentingMean.
>>221177875>Women are retardedOkay, but what's that got to do with you getting therapy? >>221177884You haven't seen it tho. >detransitionNever. I'm trutrans.
>>221177915Burst out laughing after that ledditspaceHope you detransition soon anon, you seem like a decent guy
Fucking hell, not another tranny thread.
>>221177930It's a blatant concern troll you cretin.
>>221177930>ledditspaceYeah okay we're done talking now Jew. I should have mentioned I was only here for the goy, not for you.
>>221177916I just call it as I see it spicbroYoure probably one of the good onesYou can be the vegeta to my goku anytime
The only male role model of the modern era.
>>221177934The nice thing is they're the only one in the thread with the reddit format so you can pick out every single post to ignore even without ids
>>221177934You know 4chan is tranny headquarters of the internet right?
>>221177948>the reddit format>without idsOMG you hasbara mutants are the worst. You will never be one of us.
>>221177958Where's the next red arrow to the tombstone at 29?
>>221177731>Little?
>>221177927>You haven't seen it tho.Like everyone else, because it's shit and woke and not MOTU
>>221177958I went chud to chaser (and still 100% chud) instead
Men do not need approval from others. They do things for themselves and others just because they can. They don't take shit from anyone or let others get away with it. They understand the difference between their own group and outsiders.
>>221177978lol THIS
>actress>elliotso after all that mutilation is she calling herself a woman again or what's happening?
You guys are missing the point. Women butcher themselves like this to stop being raped. Being unattractive is their 'win'. You can't imagine how many slimy jews passed her around.
>>221178014She could have left the industry at any point
>>221177197
>>221177197Seriously, why do women always do this.Enter a space they're not a part of (in this case being a man) and immediately act like they're an authority on the subject.
>>221177197...like getting regular prostate checks?dunno what else you could mean
>>221177983So I'm the only one who's seen it and I'm telling you it wasn't shit and woke. You haven't seen it, but you still feel the need to post about it on /tv/. Are you brown or something? >>221177988Lowkey I'd probably date you as long as you shaved and aren't a bottom or "verse".
>>221178028The L the G and the B are just as mentally ill thoughever
>>221178028nobody knows what a woman is but everybody has crystal clear picture of what a man is
>>221177338Hypnotism works, just like advertising works. If it is something you do not already oppose your mind will accept it. It's not going to make you do anything you oppose. People are ridiculously easily manipulated. Think about yawning causing someone else to yawn.
>>221178028>manhating terf shitGBT drop the L.
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>>221178023Seriously, how mentally ill do you need to be to choose ugly, 5' manlet with no dick over being a cute girl? There's no way she's happier.
>>221178068If you really think about that you'd understand why transsexuality is demonstrably real. He literally chose public humiliation as a 5'0 dickless manlet over another day pretending to be a girl. The only reason anyone could possibly want to do that is if it hurt more to keep lying than to tell the truth.
>>221178068that's not the point, scorched earth is the pointif you're miserable then her misery is collateral damage. Would a straight man prefer to fuck her before or now?
>>221177927>Okay, but what's that got to do with you getting therapy?You said women are thriving because of therapy. I'm pointing out that they are posturing.
>>221178090>heard voices after punching yourself in the face repeatedlyor she's mentally ill
>>221178090>If you really think about that you'd understand why transsexuality is demonstrably real.A person talking to the voices in the wall doesn't mean that the voices are real. Her behaviour doesn't reinforce anything other than trannies are severely mentally ill and a danger themselves and likely others.
>>221178114And I'm pointing out that tiktok is mental illness and the people addicted to it are mentally ill. IDGAF about the "women" at your work, they're not my problem. Autistic males on 4chan will never not have all of my sympathy tho. You can say whatever the fuck you want to me, I will never not love you. Unless you're Jewish or brown, obvi.
>>221177764AI chat is pretty good for it honestly. I mean just having someone with some humanity to talk to is world changing.
>>221177197>actress Cheeky.
>>221178126>>221178133Why do people act like Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness is some sort of political hottake? It's in the DSM V for fuck's sake. There is only one effective treatment, and it's gender affirming care. Yet for some reason the people who won't stop telling me it's a mental illness also for some reason want to make sure transsexuals never ever get treatment for it. https://www.psychiatry.org/patients-families/gender-dysphoria/what-is-gender-dysphoria
>>221178037>Lowkey I'd probably date you as long as you shaved and aren't a bottom or "verse".I'm an exclusive top and prefer girls who don't like their clitties touched personally. I'm a terrible match for the ones who like using it desu
>>221178162So maybe not so lowkey. I wish I didn't live in the part of Australia that people don't live in.
>>221177197Mutilating your body because of delusions is the least healthy thing I can imagine.
>>221178156>There is only one effective treatmentEvery sincere attempt to verify this shows it's false. It's just one of the spells brainwashed retards repeat over and over to brainwash themselves and others.
>>221178156>There is only one effective treatment, and it's gender affirming careWhich gender? Their actual gender or the one they're deluded into thinking they are?
>>221177316Nobody needs therapy because therapy is a jewish racket, you retard.
My cousin thought Conan O'Brian was her real father and that her family kidnapped her. She is now heavily medicated instead of being encouraged to follow her 'true self'.
>>221178068It depends. Actual gender dysphoria is a real thing (that way less than 1% of humanity actually has). For those it's not about recognition, sexual things or whatever, but a real, deep nested feeling that something is wrong. Those are the people who are indeed happier after their transition, even if their social/sex life plummets. Modern trannies are something else, though. Hence why now about 70% of them commit sudoku.
>>221177197You will never be a man, ellen.
>>221178171that's hilarious because another tgirl friend I've had for months is in tasmania. Why is australia hiding all the baddies from me
>>221178156The treatment is sterilization because you need to be sterilized for the benefit of humanity, not for your own benefit.
>>221177396This is the type of shit only a woman would think of.Also, I bet you her wife decided not to be gay anymore. Then ellen page hated her self for not being a real guy.
>>221178184Except you've got no fucking idea what you're talking about. None at all. You actually think constantly pointing out that it's a mental illness is some sort of grand revelation as if everyone else doesn't already fucking know the deadass fucking obvious. That is the level of your dumbassery. That is your entire contribution to the conversation. To yell "water is wet idiots" as if that's a controversial take and then try to lecture us on marine biology. It's like you're a fucking female or something waiting for headpats for agreeing with daddy.
>>221177197>unhealthy masculinity
>>221178207I'm sorry. >>221178208Yeah so you should definitely ban SRS immediately.
>>221178208Anon, the act of transitioning is pretty much a sterilization process. For all we know the doctors doing those surgeries think exactly like you, but know they can't just openly say they're doing eugenics.
>>221177197>>221177248She has no idea what any type of masculinity is because she will never be a man. When I see Ellen nowadays, all I see is a woman who is profoundly unhealthy not only physically but also mentally. There is no such thing as 'toxic masculinity'. What mentally ill leftists call 'toxic masculinity' is actually just healthy masculinity and masculinity in general.
>>221178221>I'm sorry.it's not okay. state mandated trans gfs for all chuds starting with me NOW
>>221178028because its what women do, proving shes a woman
>>221178235>female noises
>>221177197I fucking hate this person for killing Ellen Pagedid she think to herself "well, it's either become a bogged hag or get on testosterone, either way I'm not gonna be a cute young woman forever and the clock is ticking" and perhaps the option with the most social brownie points was the way to go? I seriously don't understand why a woman would troon outI understand why men do, because as men we're all extremely horny, and some of us are faggots. so, the hottest thing to do would be to look and act feminine and get fucked hard by a guy in their bussy. I get it
>>221178213>as if everyone else doesn't already fucking know the deadass fucking obvious.Not that guy you're arguing with but you're acting like for the last decade or so we haven't been assaulted with the idea that it's not a mental illness. How many offices or worksites do you think someone could express that they feel transgenderism is a mental illness, even if it was with a voice of concern?
>>221178248Agreed. I'm never pretending to vote for Trump again. He had ONE FUCKING JOB!>>221178249You know that meme was made by women pretending to be lesbians because they're too fat and ugly to get dick and also Israel right?
>>221178276holy fuck no one gives a fuck about your hate of israel holy fucking jesus christ how much you people fucking whine about this shit
>>221178259>Not that guy you're arguing withIt's not a guy. It's a vagina having, Y-chromosome lacking female brained female. >but you're acting like for the last decade or so we haven't been assaulted with the idea that it's not a mental illness.The TV lies. That's what it does. I can't do anything about that. Seriously, 90% of the problems transsexual women face is doctors who don't know what they fuck they're doing. 90% of the shit cishet people talk about is just fucking babble in between toyota ads.
>>221178257women do it because they're dumb and easily manipulated. that's it. That's 100% of ftms. I genuinely believe only mtfs can be truely trans, born women are too dumb and maleable. That's why all advertisement is aimed at women, they're the bigger consumers, they're the bigger trend chasers. ftms are just the evolution of all the scene/emo girls being bi and making out with girls at parties from when I was in that late teens/early 20s age they all do this in
>>221177731inceldom is a consequence of living in a post-pair-bonding society, it is not a moral or intellectual failing
>>221178285>KvetchingHows life in Israel now that you lost the war you started with Iran?
>>221178255You will never be a man, ellen. Get the fuck off my board or else I will drink wine from your skull.>>221178248Here is a list of my top 10 trannies:>Natalie Mars>Venus Lux (my favourite mongoloid trannie)>Shiri Allwood>Natassia Dreams (my favourite negroid trannie)>Lianna Lawson>Janelle Fennec>Jenny Flowers>Ella Hollywood>Claire Tenebrarum>Alexa Scout
>>221178213I didn't point out it's mental illness and my point is you're deranged, nothing you say about any subject has any relationship to reality except incidentally, by coincidence. You repeat catchphrases you grab from pop culture over and over to condition yourself and don't care about reality, like the fact that you're a man. Your entire worldview is made up based on surface level meme instead of any hint of sincere disciplined inquiry.>>221178198>a real, deep nested feeling that something is wrongSomething is always wrong and putting on a performance like pretending to yourself that you've identified the source of everything that's wrong is pure delusion. It's a distraction from the harshness of reality, like cutting yourself to focus on that pain instead of facing your actual issues. This is why so much of tranny discourse is about demanding nobody ever challenges the delusion even slightly.
>>221178312>Here is a list of my top 10 trannies:I don't watch porn so I don't know any of these names desu. my top 10 trannies are all in my dms on discord. I'll trust you're a man of culture and start googling though
>>221178309there you go again>REEEE!!!!!!israel this, isareal that!!!! JEWSSS THIS!! JEWSSSS THAT!!!!Nigga, im not a fucking jew or a sandy,get it through your 3rd world sand logic, that not everyone gives a flying fuck about either of you
>>221178312What part of no girls allowed is your female brain struggling to understand? >>221178316>Nonono, when I said it was a mental illness what I meant was there's no such thing as mental illnessFemale logic on full display.
>>221178326>Kvetching intensifiesDay of the oven when?
>>221177764I’ve gone through like 12 therapists and psychologists and ChatGPT is better than all of them and also completely free.
>>221178347idk, want to come over when the jews stop bombing you rapist to kingdom come?
>>221178333>What part of no girls allowed is your female brain struggling to understand?None because unlike you, I am a man. I will never leave this place. Lick my anus, keep seething and kill yourself. lol
>>221177588And staying hydrated of course
>>221178333>when I saidI'm not the same poster.>there's no such thing as mental illnessNot what I said.Notice how consistent your post is with what I said, you don't care about reality even when it comes to something as banal as what 4chan posts are trying to say. Everything you do and say is designed to maintain your delusions.
>>221178368You're right. I am a loser and a cuck. Please accept my sincere apologies.
>>221177741I would say that’s an ancillary issue to the fact that toxic masculinity in this sense means violence and abusive behavior.
>>221178323I'm telling you that's a cis female. You can always tell terfs from chudChud transphobia:>You're gross and ugly and don't even make my dick hard because I'm not gay. Okay? I'M NOT GAY!!!Terf transphobia>You're an evil man and evil with your male manliness and stop raping me or I'll call the internet policeThey've seriously started to infest this site because they took reddit memes too seriously and actually think they're welcome here as long as they're unironically transphobic.
>>221177248>love themselveslike she
>>221178402wtf are you talking about"welcome here", bitch you don't run this place or own itno one needs your welcome to be here
>>221178361>I identify as a manlol>>221178368It's not a delusion. It's a birth defect where the brain fails to masculinize properly in the third trimester of pregnancy. I didn't choose this.
>>221178416>It's not a delusion>It's a delusion I didn't choose
>>221178416>I identify as a man.Yes, I already know you identify as a man my mentally ill female friend.
>>221178411>Noooooooooo stop telling me that girls aren't allowed in the he-man woman haters clubBeen here for 23 years. What you don't know, because you're a dumb female, is that the transphobia was always ironic. The misogyny wasn't.
>>221178426>Birth defects aren't real
>>221178126>sneakers with a suitCan she do anything without embarrassing herself anymore?
>>221178430LOL!I'm a trans woman you fucking retard. I'm allowed here because I'm not really a girl. You're not.
>>221178353because it tells you exactly what you want to hear
>>221178431wtf you talking about, you replied to wrong person you fucking pedophilenice loli bitch, we all know that means you jerk off to it to. pedo ass bitch
>>221178402lmao based chud transphobes. Then there's my archtype, the chud chaser, who's misogyny grew so strong that the first time I gave a tgirl a chance I realised their personalities are 100x better than cis women and aren't nearly as retarded due to their upbringing. I got the biggest crush ever the first time I gave a trans girl a chance. As soon as they invent cis women with trans women personalities I'm gone from the chaser life as quickly as I fell into it, but I doubt that's happening they're just too special. I will ALWAYS be a chud though.
>>221178208That's what they said, anon.
>>221178446It must be tiring for you to be wrong all the time, my mentally ill female friend. lol
>>221177231watch predator
>>221178446The only retard in this thread is you for falling for the false ideology of transgenderism. Commit suicide immediately.
>>221178450>personalities are 100x better than cis womenThey're just nerds pretending to be their idealized version of a woman. No shit they have the same interests as you.
>>221178449>I don't know memesBecause you don't belong here>>221178450I get it, but at the same time I don't think you're a chud in the pejorative sense. Like I get the need to adopt the label as a form of fuck you, that's why I absolutely refuse to stop using the word tranny, but at the same time I think we both know we're both a bit beyond all that bullshit. And yeah, in as far as women go, can't stand em myself. And that's cis or trans. I prefer male company not just sexually and romantically, but socially too. Men are funny and interesting and like cool things. Do you know what women talk about in women's spaces? Their kids and food. That's it. That is the sum total of their ability to have a conversation. Meanwhile we're 200 posts into this shitshow and I'm completely engaged.
>>221178156>Why do people act like Gender Dysphoria is a mental illness is some sort of political hottake?Because it is? You will be banned on every big platform for saying that, fired from a workplace, expelled from your school. If you are a public person your career with mainstream businesses is basically over. Status quo punishes you for saying that on every level except putting you in jail, but it's only for now because the end-goal of all activist groups is to establish saying something like this as a hate crime. Trannies themselves hate you saying this. I don't know if you are aware, but as of today the current meta is that gender is a non-existent abstract concept and trannies are simply people morphing between these absolutely arbitrarily defined abstract concepts like men or women and every struggle or mental anguish that trans people deal with is caused solely by stupid chuds making mean comments online. This is the mainstream opinion. If you go to trans community, they are actually divided into tribes and have a constant tribe war between each other. Some of them like the idea of being mentally ill because it's like in the cool sad European movies and they can like smoke cigarettes and look out of the window being very cool and mysterious. Other trannies have full on mythology based on being trans and they believe that god fucked up and placed their female souls into male bodies. I've also seen a theory that trannies have "female brains" and this is what causes the thing, so it's like a mutation or something.
>>221178471That's a funny way of saying trans women are superior to cis women in every conceivable way. >>221178488Not reading all that.
>>221178496>Not reading all that.PLEASE READ IT. I put so much effort and time PLEASE READ IT PLEASE
>>221178471it's not just the interests, it's the sensitivity to common male insecurities and things like that, because they felt a lot of them growing up. Cis women are fucking ruthlessly cruel, constantly shit testing you, constantly trying to poke and prod and find any insecurity or weakness in you. They'll say fucked up shit right to you just to test if you're insecure about it or not. Trans girls know what men do/don't want to hear and are actually fucking NICE. that was the biggest culture shock in the world for me, having a girl treat me nicely and feel good about me after sex instead of using pillow talk to try and test any insecurity or weakness they can find. would highly recommend
>>221178501Learn to format posts for legitibility newfag.
>>221178512>learn to reddit spacing newfag hurr durrlol
>>221178529The redditspace meme is a meme used by redditors because they lost.
>>221178479I love being a chud though. It's not a "fuck you" reclaimation of the label I just find the memes really fun and cute
>>221178538Yeah I know, and I love you for it.
>>221177231when you act like the sun but not like the moonellen was born a moon so will never understand
>>221178556I love you too random /tv/ anon I'll never meet
>>221177316there is zero evidence of evolution and in fact its just a fairytale dogmahttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NAPhBt8VJCM
>>221178496Men can't conceive. You are completely devoid of morality and see others and things you use for personal pleasure.
>>221177424>states with highest poverty and already lowest educationadjusted for niggers?
>>221178604cis women are completely devoid of morality my brother
>>221178604You can't conceive because you're a fat ugly bitch and nobody likes you. >>221178597>I stuck my finger up my bum and wiggled it around for a while and didn't find any evidenceThis is like atheists in the 90s all over again.
>>221178644>hey i observed this thing>and then i observed it again>and in fact anyone can repeat the observation>we shall call this evidencesomething that has never happened for evolution
>>221178656I actually thought it was hitlarious when Richard Dawkins came out as a transphobe.
>>221177248""""He""""" sounds straight up like a woman.
>>221178683there is no such thing as transphobia. you are born like the moon or the sun
>>221178698>Richard Dawkins isn't realThat's what I said!!!
>>221177248And this differs from "healthy femininity" how?Progressives just can't define anything out of fear of excluding anyone. That is at the core the problem of their ideology. This "inclusivity" idea is just the end of meaning, it's not even tolerance anymore, tolerance means "in between strictly defined parameters" but progressivism doesn't even have parameters anymore.
>>221177231zipper tits and dry pussy
>>221178755>self-love is pure leftismwhew lad, get therapy
>>221177757She said eat a banana. Not steal a banana
>>221178792Answer the question Troon.
Isn't this kind of behavior widely criticized as pick-me shit?
It's pretty obvious that FtM's are massive fakes cause they still act like little girls about everything, even if they mask it behind a beard and fake TRT muscles
>>221178908She wants to "feel like a man", kinda like a dude who throws his clapped out Kia around a racetrack wants to feel like a race car driver.The sole reason for this desire is that she wants female attention because she is a lesbian.It's not that complicated.
>>221177248Damn what a heccin valid dooderino. We must be better mxn fellow goobers!
>>221178156why is every other extreme case of body dysphoria treated with mental care instead of letting the patient do extreme body modifications like get their limbs hacked off?but say you have gender dysphoria and suddenly it's "oh yes don't worry we'll gladly feed you hormone changing drugs and get that cock lopped right off for you"
>>221177248She's as stupid as I thought
>>221178792>self-love is pure leftismquite the opposite, self hatred is leftismthat's why they hate nationalism and love floodind their own countries with the scum of the world
>>221178792>self love is when you are delusional you are the opposite gender, also niggers who behead people in the same society as mentally ill faggots and women who think they are gay men>>221178755the "problem" is that it's a jewish psyop to kill you
>>221177231Be like Elliot i.e. cut your dick off.
>>221177231Carter Grayson, Red Ranger, from Power Rangers Lightspeed Rescue.
>>221178792libshits always say get therapy because they project the only person they can talk to, they have no family, no close friends, their parents hate them or are ashamed, the only people they can talk to is the tranny discord or the therapist. Also it's funny because when it comes down to it,If you have a good relationship with your parents, you will never need therapy for anything ever.opsie
>>221179368>this is what the adult believes
>>221177231If I had to take a guess, my first guess would be to say>"Well, whatever it may be, I am entirely certain a fucking tranny chupacabra like Big E, is not qualified to say."
>>221179380
>>221177396>why don’t I explore thatOkay, I think you’ve explored it and didn’t find what you needed, Ellen…
>>221179390Why don't you throat a banana and chug some water, you might feel better.
>>221177248>just love yourself, you knowSaid the girl who cut off her titties.
>>221179285You don't get it, words can mean whatever you want them to mean.So of course castration and antidepressants are a sign of "self acceptance".
>>221179215It's slowly changing, recently I read an article in a mainstream news outlet writing about a study in Finland finding no signs of "gender reaffirming" surgery helping the suspects with their mental issues, quite the opposite actually as they needed more therapy afterwards and had more severe depression.
>>221179276She's even more stupid than I thought.
>>221177197>actressThe author reveals his true opinions.
>>221178048>Think about yawning causing someone else to yawn.Or when you watch someone getting kicked in the nads and your balls twitch a little
>>221177231Being 5’3 like Sir Eliot
>>221177366No I don’t. Yes it isn’t
>>221179650>5’3She wishes.
>>221177248>healthy masculinity is like, drink water and eat a bananaJesus fuck she's retarded.
>>221177258Therapists are psychopaths who have handed the world to BPDemons
I'm just tired of male aspiration being automatically met with suspicion and whenever a guy talks about wanting to be strong his gut instinct is to immediately explain that he doesn't mean domination.It gets really tiring.This is why everyone is into shonen anime and manga. It's pure male positivity with no strings attached. The japanese are the only sane people left in this clown world.
>>221177396>So, anyway, I was punching myself in the face and for some reason it reminded me of my first fight with Tyler >In that moment for the first time in my life I felt complete.>You are not your tits>You are not your vagina>You are not a beautiful and unique snowman >You should cut off your tits and fashion a makeshift penis out of a lava lamp >Her name was Ellen Paige >Her name was Ellen Paige
>>221179737Why would anyone think it’s about domination? Everyone understands that the only reason guys ever start going to the gym is to get laid
>>221177258talking about your problems to """"solve"""" them is women shitmen actually do something about their problems to solve them or ignore them until they cant anymore
>>221179755In that case, women only stay fit to get married.Being healthy as a female is actually not about the personal benefits, its all just to serve men and give them something nice to look at.
>>221177341>Women get therapy. Women are thriving.so why are they still bitching nonstop?
>>221177248Word salad.This does deserve to be mocked even outside of trannie ideology. It's obvious she doesn't know the first thing about the male experience.
>>221177396he's litterally me
>>221177312You're like, very anti-semitic like Adolf Hitler, like, you fucking nazi!
>>221178061Kek
>>221178792>just love yourself as you are, never try to be better!Faggot, go fuck your boyfriends ass.
>>221178213Water is wet you fag
>>221177197>Where are the contemporary film stars that embody "healthy masculinity"?Hunter Schafer>Also, who were the stars of the past that perpetuated unhealthy masculinity?Jared Leto
>>221177231Whatever a 5'1 larping woman says it is
>>221177248>Ummm, like, just, umm, you know, like, just, uhhhh, like, just, you know, umm, just like, like ya know, like, just umm, likeFunny that the speech patterns are still so stereotypically female to the point it seems like the opposite way, a man doing a caricature of a woman
>>221178090Real in the same way schizophrenia is real, which is to say it's a mental illness that should be treated as such (and no, mutilation and encouraging the mental illness is not a treatment), not a lifestyle.
>>221178604You have no idea what i do or what i am like , you are just retarded ;^)
healthy masculinity >Being confident enough to let her still text her ex
>>221178213>>221179954ACKchually wetness is a liquid's ability to coat an objectwater itself is not wet but instead makes things wet
>>221178156>There is only one effective treatment, and it's gender affirming care1, gender isn't real. The term you are looking for is sex. 2, there is no such thing as "gender affirming care", as the people undergoing it are not actually reaffirmed in their biological sex and reality, but subjected to horrible mutilation of the genitals and secondary sexual characteristics, coupled with a veritable cocktail of fucked up hormone shots and blockers to further fuck up their body.
>>221180138
>>221177248Truly one of the greatest minds of the 21st century.
>>221177248If I'm really, really charitable, I get it. But man.
>>221177197>actressYIKES
>>221177751She doesn't know what it's like to be a man, because she's not a man.She claims she "feels" like a man, but based on what? How exactly are you meant to compare how you feel? You feel like yourself, so does everyone else, so any argument that claims you can simply "feel" like the opposite sex, is objectively retarded.With that established, you can then infer that anyone who tries to use this argument, is either legitimately retarded and should not be listened to, or evil and manipulative, and should also not be listened to.
>>221178198It's hopping on the train for political/fetish reasons and actually castrating yourself. Testosterone being gone will make you extremely depressed. Going from higher 800s to 400s (due to an injury) has me ready to drink bleach, and I'm supposedly still within the "perfectly capable of functioning" range, ironically now I'm way too scared to fucking do it (whereas at peak levels I probably would have had little hesitation)
>>221180138Yea... indeed...is this the part where we discuss marine biology now?
>>221177312I sometimes think about talking about my problems to a therapist because I don't have a friend that would listen for free but then I read something like that interview and give up.
>>221180262it would make for a far better thread
>>221178156Yes gender affirming care regarding the gender they actually inhibit. The "transition" is more commonly the nail in the coffin. I'm not even that "against" "transition" (but severely mutilating yourself is rarely the answer, like a guy with body dysmorphic gymorexia I wouldn't tell to blast 3000mg of test non stop, but I don't even disagree with hopping on steroids to get unnaturally strong) like there are still genuinely "feminine" men and in other cultures they would correspond to an unofficial third gender, like Thai ladyboys; accepting that they're not literally women
>>221180292Spongebob is a sea sponge
>>221179737Correct.
Patrick is a starfish
>>221178488I'm not a big drinker of the kool-aid, but there ARE men that due to insufficient virilisation have "feminine" brains (and the fact that in nearly every trait men show more variability), it'll rarely be a literal female structure, but it does happen. I still don't think horrific mutilation is the answer to that
>>221177346Broken clock and all that
>>221177451>What the world actually wants from you is to be healthy, happy and kind.no, the world wants me to go and kill some poor siberian gooks until they manage to hit me back and then die in a trench to avoid burdening the social security system.
>troon has run out of coherent arguments>starts spamming nonsensical spongebob lore
>>221180312was that not an automatically assumed thing?despite him being drawn like and occasionally played off as a dish sponge I thought it was pretty clear he is intended to be a sea sponge if you knew that they are a thing
>>221177248this bitch never stood a chance, did she? 70iq and exposed to all this deranged shit. no way could she understand the consequences of what they were doing to her body. she's just some psycho doctor's experiment.
>stupid bitch is still a stupid bitch when pretending to be a man
>>221177857World would be a better place if faggots like you spent more time gagging on cock and less time pretending your opinions matter.You're a fuckpuppet, stop pretending you're more.
>>221180385Not the tranny, i am simply proving my manhood by telling the tranny water is wet and lecturing the thread about marine biology as stated in this post of schizo babble >>221178213
>>221179718This. The only correct way to handle "people" with BPD is to either kill or exile them. Nobody who behaves like such a raging cunt deserves a place in society.
>>221180429>water is wetwe went over this already
>>221178450Lol nigga u gay
>>221180441Yes and now you are getting lectured on marine biology
>>221180230>any argument that claims you can simply "feel" like the opposite sex, is objectively retarded.Yeah I never understood what the fuck that was supposed to mean either until I sort of had a revelation. What trannies mean when they say they "feel like the opposite gender" is the same sort of pretense people feel when their identity is temporarily changed through an unfamiliar experience.Like when a kid says it feels "all grown up" because it was allowed to stay up past its bedtime. Of course this requires a tension between reality and subjective perception. An adult doesn't feel grown up, we simply are. Only kids can "feel like grown ups."Same thing with trannies, they chase a feeling that only exists because they are not what they think they wanna be.
>>221180458call me what you want, I've already won
>>221180472You are an anal rapebaby
>>221177215fpbp
>>221180468I get what you're saying, but I would nitpick slightly, as it's a little different.The core premise of my argument, is that you have no way to compare feeling like the opposite sex, as you have always been your sex, and you're always yourself.However, when you're a child and you grow up to become an adult, there's a clear distinction. For a a few glorious years, you have no real responsibilities, everything is catered towards you and the world is fresh, new and summer lasts forever.When you're an adult, you have all the responsibilities, nothing is catered towards you, and time increases in speed.You notice this, because not only does the world treat you different, there's a measurable, objective difference physically, and mentally, between the two states.
>>221177231Being a cockless troon, apparently.
>>221180590Well yeah, it's entirely based on closed off self-perception.Ellen Page just perceives herself as what she considers to be a man and she can only feel like one because she isn't one.None of this has any relation to reality and shouldn't be encouraged.
>>221180462don't get pissy at me just because you don't know surface science
>>221177248>drink water, like, eat a banana
>>221180870kek
>>221180757Surface science is an extension of marine biology. ;^)
Lets discuss surface science in correlation to marine biology. Here is an example of such
>>221180896no anon, physics and chemistry is not a subsection of biology
>>221180979>physics Gravity affects the marine ecosystem with tide pools and all that shit>chemistryEverything that has to do with water animals etc involves chemistry>water =h20...... chemistry amirite
>>221181071>everything is connected to everything elseWoah! You just blew my mind!
>>221178447People say this, but that’s not the case when I use it. I’ll tell it the problem I’m having and it will tell me to get it together and how.
>>221177197You don't let the fish teach you how to be the fisherman.
>>221181119My name is pepe thank you for attending my ted talk
>>221181071you know, it's pretty ironic seeing you trying to bend science to suit you like this considering it's exactly what trannies do
>>221181240No you are the tranny, faggot
>>221181287>no u
>>221177715Modern biologyModern medicineModern language
>>221181301You are correct tranny , that is what i just said
>>221181335This is your brain in woke fantasyworld.
>>221181355you are projecting
>>221181517NOYOU
>>221181571-are a straight white manyou forgot to finish that post
Thank you , i also forgot to put the implication meme arrow in front of that :No>you are a straight white man
>>221181628yes I know I am a straight white man
>>221181643You are a tranny
>>221181659no u
>>221181667No You
>>221181705no u
>>221181710No you are a trannyIm bored of you tranny go away
>>221181734no u
>>221177248like like like
>>221177741this is what the rotten mind of a post modern tv addicted faggot thinks masculinity is.
>>221181124then you will do whatever you felt like doing anyways. tony soprano
>>221177197Elliot has a bigger dick than everyone in this thread. Stay jealous.
>>221177258you niggas need a family
>>221181917You are wrong and you will never be a man. Keep seething, ellen. lol
>>221177197Why can’t these maladjusted kiked up trannies just drink or drug themselves to death like actors and actresses of the past? Who keeps forcing themselves to do as much damage to society as possible on the way out? (I know)
