objectively best doctor editionbefore:>>221152000
>>221179648tennant is mid doctor incarnate. you're homosexual
>>221179648Matt Smith was better. Less dramatic.
>He's still making and necrobumping /who/ generals Let it go man
>>221180102why does that upset you so much?
>>221180078Matt Smith was too melodramatic. He flailed his arms around too much.
Matt Smith was too melodramatic. He flailed his massive gree member around too much.
that is why she is called the fugitive
>>221180078matt was better because he acted less with his teeth. he sure was an arm-waver though. i wish we’d got more years out of him though, to see him mature in the role instead of the speedrun we got would have been nice, but sadly that’s how it was being run. still my fave NuWho.
>>221180286His what?
Russell t Davies I say this to you because you obviously don't know.Dr Who was more than a show, many of us got bullied for loving it you know. Many of us who didn't fit in..no we were not gay..we were not in wrong bodies, but we were shy, lonely, abused ..on the outside of everything..sad.but we were included there...accepted Every age, race, class, creed, outlook..every human being was loved by Dr Who that was the point.It wasn't a little sexuality and gender club with racism sprinkled over it.you took something precious as the true meaning of 'inclusive' something rare..truly rare and you made it ugly and broken and false.. you excluded those of us who came to it for shelter as kidsthat's unforgivableThis world is better than sex and gender and race..this is humanities worldput the flags down...look at that lonely old person..that awkward young person and bring them a heroyou took him from us all#DrWho #ripdrwho #doctorwho #whoniverse
>>221179648Who?
Greenis!
The death of Dr. Who reflects the cultural decay of Ingerland. Its death is simply a premonition.
War Doctor is where it's at. He gets up to some serious shit in his Big Finish adventures. Not everyone is a winner, but when he decides to cut lose he goes for broke. No problem picking up a stazer and letting lose. Happy to carry sonic grenades in his pockets. He straight up merc's the Dalek Time Strategist, unmakes races from existence, and kills dead warlocks employed by the timelords. He' not just wrecking Daleks, he's actively sabatoging the timelords when they get too fucking uppity. Dude was an absolute menace. But again, this is all Big Finish and other literature.
This was the final nail in Doctor Who's coffin. Where thousands of spergs could imagine riding their 'tism-scooters into the Tardis to relax in a safe space with Pride lighting glowing from the walls.
The Greenis Daleks are where it's at. They get up to some serious shit in their Big Finish adventures. Not every one is a winner, but when they decide to cut loose they go for broke. No problem hauling up those huge green cannons and letting loose. Happy to carry spare power cells in their casings. They straight up merc the Troomers, unmake races from existence, and exterminate dead warlocks employed by the Time Lords. They're not just wrecking rival factions, they're actively sabotaging the Time Lords when they get too fucking uppity. These tin pepperpots were absolute menaces. But again, this is all Big Finish and other gay literature.
>>221179648Why is Doctor Who søyfacing at a big black cock? Is he a redditor?
9 was peak
>>221181271wtf is a tism-scooter?
Let's be honest,Capaldi was the last doctor.Whittaker and on, will never be remembered as Doctor Who.It'll be like Peter Cushing's Dr.Who, eg:>oh yeah, that happened. Anyway
>>221181295There seems to be two big green pipes on his lower half, one behind him, that merges into the one in front. Illusion!
>>221179648Btwt.objectively best Doctor
>>221181544Tom Faker was the worst doctor ever.
>>221181554
>>221181490
>>221181518fixed for posterity
>>221181025
>>221181295
>>221181697Those fucking fat-ass Daleks were a terrible idea.
>>221181751during the era Moffat was riding high because of Sherlock hype
>>221181634Oh wow, cool.
>>221181825What a weird fad trans was
>>221181937fuck you.
>>221182046What? It was.
>>221179648
Were you against or for one Billie 16th season?
We should've let who die on this >>221169705>>221183144Bringing back a one off actor in a story to play the Doctor is fine.Bringing back an actor to play a second doctor is cringe.Bringing back a companion actor to play the doctor is super cringe. Especially when Billie's far from a good choice of which companion actor to upgrade into doctor.
>>221182820>I don't like it because it shows the Doctor is an alien patrician with powers that humans can't even understand instead of just a smart old man.
>>221183176Then let it die. Make this the last post.
>>221183206https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVz1Q8xDCpoThis is where Doctor Who ended.
>>221183237
>>221183237Last time it was reliably good was about 1977.
I never watched Leisure Hive
>>221183502It's quite all right. Nice bits on Brighton Beach, then it's not as good. T Baker's great as ever.
good dreams
>>221182046it was a bit weird>Ooh! I'm a lady!Lmao. Egg on your face...
>>221183144I don't think she'd be a good Doctor, and I'm not interested.
>>221183693Bit like my old bed.
>>221183767
>>221183849Mine had the advantage of being real.
>>221183570
>>221183886what about the spoons?
>>221183693>DAVD TENT BEDSHITS
>>221183914My spoons are not imaginary. I do not have them with me.
>>221181825
>>221183144Against, because it seemed obvious it was going to be a single special thing.
>>221184259dont no who dat iz
>>221184352The hero from RTD's new drama
>>221184773
"Doctor, I let you go."
>>221185099
>>221185117Source?
>>221185126Just saw it on Twitter.
>>221185216
>>221185216You mean X.
>>221185232Yes, thanks.
>>221185099>>221185117>>221185216Responsible for the greatest kino in the history of nu-who.Who's the woman?
>>221184855I'm never going to watch The War Between the Land and the Sea. It looks like shit.
>>221186365yeah there's nothing good about it. can't even say it's actively bad, just bland, waste of everything involved.a UNIT character dies? if you were into the ongoing, gripping storyline of Team UNIT working at UNIT Tower.
Why does every "adult" spin-off of Doctor Who involve fucking the aliens?
>>221186966>DOCTOR: Relax, he's a 51st century guy. He's just a bit more flexible when it comes to dancing.>ROSE: How flexible?>DOCTOR: Well, by his time, you lot have spread out across half the galaxy.>ROSE: Meaning?>DOCTOR: So many species, so little time.>ROSE: What, that's what we do when we get out there? That's our mission? We seek new life, and... and>DOCTOR: Dance. tbfair it's interesting the once, even if it was furry degeneracy with no pregnancy, people WOULD fug the aliens.but then they/RTD just kept going. most people are driven to fuck out of love/procreation, this would be like paedophilia where there's no biological reason for it, just someone wrong in the head.
>>221180078Smith (and the Moffat era in general) lost most of the heart and soul of the 9th and 10th doctors and their stories.
>>221187189
these aren't even 'good' AI images.anon is just still impressed the computer output the picture.LEARN TO DRAW YOU FUCKS
>>221187082Reminder that The Empty Child (2-parter) remains the undisputable best DW story ever.
>>221187383Lol just ai everything. talent don't matter. google is our god.
>>221187306I'm right though. Not a fan of the whimsical fairy tale tone Moffat changed it to.
>>221181271>The doctor puts in a ramp so anyone can enter the TARDIS>But that doesn't mean any of the wacky adventurers will be handicapped accessibleWhat's the point?I guess he could always take someone to a place where they could get their legs fixed but considering he just let Graham suffer with his cancer probably not
>>221187383Drawing is a waste of time now.
>>221187609WRONG, NERD. i like drawings, same with shooping, image macros, etc.yeah, you can probably trick me with AI, egg on my face. but even when people found daft webcomics from other sites (Rusty & Moff, 'ROSE LOVED DRUGS' etc) i appreciate when someone had an idea and doodled it.
>>221187505World Enough and Time > The Empty Child
>>221187659lord up in of this time bitch?classic
>>221185216Is this the first time they've met? He had his pic taken with Ncuti like two years ago lol
>>221187659AI memes just *feel* wrong, y'know?
>>221186966RTD is a fundamentally immature person. He doesn't get what adult writing is.
>>221187383They're old AI images he's been spamming for years, along with all the other same shit jokes ITT he finds hilarious.
I predict a revival where they use the Timeless Child thing to set the series pre-Hartnell so they don't have to deal with the Billie Piper thing.
I've been rewatching Smith's episodes. Amy's so pretty it makes me angry.
>>221188227How so?
>>221188091ugh. I hope not. The idea that the Doctor was cavorting around having adventures before Hartnell is so dumb.If they've got to do something, I kind of like the idea of a parallel time line where the war didn't happen. Essentially resetting all the way back to the classic series (or the McGann audios).I'm kind of sick of the Time War as a thing. I'm sick of grief being some cornerstone of the Doctor's personality, as opposed to just bumming around and not giving a fuck.
>>221184352The good guy from Faggots R Us
>>221181498Both Capaldi and Whittaker could have been great doctors with proper writers.As in , the actors were good. The stories were godawful
>>221181544Ngl never saw an og series doctor but even I think he was the doctoriest of doctors by cultural osmosis.He represents the absolute essence of the doctor.Close second for me is 8.
>>221189176Capaldi had better stories than Tennant.
>>>/int/222386019
>>221179648Of the post relaunch eccleston was the best at pulling off the "being wacky as a front" schtick. Tennant just did the sad boy routine enough that he came off as a cry baby, Smith and Capaldi had the acting chops for it but not the writing
>>221179648https://youtu.be/g2q1Fk0GJaM?t=99
The doctors need to last longer. We're going through them too quickly. Let one be the doctor for a decade.
>>221189551Tom Baker wasn't even the Doctor for a decade.
>>221188240I decline to elaborate.
>>221189176>Whittaker>could have been greatbait used to be believabledoesn't matter how hot her feet are she would have never been good
Going to start watching Sylvester McCoy episodes. What am i in for? Is he great?
>>221189931He's the best classic Doctor.
>>221189931He is pure unrefined kino.Stories are hit and miss though.
THERE'S THIS EMPEROR
>>221189816chris chibnalls so shit he would have made both bakers boring and lifeless. Hes so bad Whittaker has basically earn a permanent benefit of the doubt even if she would have been just as awful under another showrunner.
>>221190986>Tom Baker dialogue under Chibnall: Wow, brilliant.
>>221190986This is pure reddit cope.She wasn't good in a single episode, despite having over a dozen different writers.
Also yeah, Jody is clearly poorly cast. She doesn't have *it*. I'm sorry. Neither does Billie Piper, for that matter. Joanna Lumley in the 90's might have worked.
>The King of Doctor Who
What's wrong with this image?
>>221192092Jenna Louis Coleman used to be black?
>>221192247filthy nonce
>>221192641How so?
>>221192092Billie Piper used to be so cute. What happened?
Rewatched Blink and Utopia last nightAlmost baseded out it was so kino
>>221192920>Derek Jacobi becoming the Master while Murray Gold's bombastic music is blaring out at youOne of the most kino moments in the entire show.
>>221192218If it weren't for that damn mole she'd be perfect.
>>221189931early episodes are cringe and mccoy hasn't quite figured out his thing yet but his later stuff is uber kino
>>221192979So glad RTD was able to re-capture that moment with "Sue Tech"
>>221192979So good and it'd been so long I'd forgotten the cause was the camellion watch from Family of Blood Nothing after came close
>>221194384>YANA Awww, you're sweet >SUE TECH Hello, human resources?
>>221194384After The Timeless Child and the Flux I didn't think anyone could make the show more retarded, but that whole reveal was weapons-grade stupidity. Not only shoehorning the name gymnastics into the plot, but having a fucking dog-god sitting on the Tardis for 50 years and the Doctor didn't notice? Fuck off. I'm glad the show's dead.
>>221194152You take that back.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sNLQ9S7eXyE
>>221194441The most retarded part is that RTD rebooted the show to be a clean break from 60 years of overloaded canon to appeal to new fans then immediately did a Classic Who villain reveal because that's the only writing trick he has.
The higher they make the stakes the lower they are.>flux destroys half the universe>sutekh makes the planet into a sandpitwho fucking cares, it's obvious it's going to get deus ex machinaed.Give BELIEVABLE problems with BELIEVABLE ramifications.Episodes like blink are consistently rated the highest and the biggest danger in that was a single person being born 80 years previously.
>>221195277writers will never understand thisOne death is a tragedy, a thousand dead is a statistic, a trillion dead is an empty threat
>>221195277Remember when the Doctor had to deal with The Rani set in a 19th Century mining town or when he accidentally started the Fire of London? Each story had stakes bigger than the immediate setting but it felt a lot more grounded. Nu-Who needs to destroy the universe at the end of every season.
Guys it's Jodie's birthday today!! What are you going to get her?
>>221195383A boop on the nose.
>Peter Capaldi says Doctor Who has had too many regenerations, arguing the twist no longer lands like it once did.>Speaking on 100 Questions with Tom Simons, the former Twelfth Doctor called regeneration a diminished big event.>Capaldi says regeneration was once mysterious and strange, and that mystery remains central to Doctor Who.The most professional way of saying they completely fucked it after he left
>>221195404
>>221185117>Capaldi doing his Doctor Who face>Jodie just smilingKek sums them up really
>>221195442To be honest, Jodie's Doctor Who face would look dumb.
>>221195598
>>221189490This interview makes me feel bad for Capaldi having to see how out of touch the average zoomer is with anything prior to the 21st century. You could tell the interviewer didn't really get any reference outside of the Beatles.
>>221195707And you knew who David Hookner was, did you?
[memes]
Did anyone else immediately drop the show after the Eleventh Doctor showed up? I started with nu-Who and the tone of the show immediately felt off when Matt Smith's Doctor showed up. The show just felt really boring and I felt like the Eleventh Doctor couldn't fill the shoes that the Tenth Doctor left behind. He wasn't nearly as charismatic or compelling. And the plot lines for him were just lame imo. Amy was hot tho.
>>221196254I dropped the show too many times to remember
>>221196254There's only revival Doctor that I never completely watched, and that was 13. I just couldn't bring myself to watch the Sea Devils episode.
>>221196254I liked 11 but hated his storylines as they were far too convulted and Moffat was so far up his own ass trying to make them as confusing as possible. Shoehorning flabby River as an apparently sexy character made me cringe, it felt like living through that Arnie copypasta about Jamie Lee Curtis.
>>221192218Face like a bowl of cold porridge.
>>221196538I just wish they could've leaned into Jodie's hotness. Even her few seconds in the reveal trailer was more interesting than her whole run.
I love jodieI wish moffat was her runner
>>221198034She wishes she had Ncuti's ass.
>>221187609>Drawing is a waste of time now.based
>>221187659>i appreciate when someone had an idea and doodled it.if you are gay, yes
would you let jodie to step on my sandwich
>>221196254RTDtranny
>>221198337Sure, she can step on your sandwich. But you must eat it straight after.
Rewatched Sound of the Drums/Last of the Time Lords tonightSo, so goodI will say, it did make the Doctor seem like Jesus. Is RTD1 Doctor Who Christian-coded? Also Martha's black family being The Master's slaves is crazy in hindsight.
>>221198844How so?
>>221181490amerilards are like daleks now that i think about it. the majority of them roll about on mobility scooters
>Watch a reaction to Into The Dalek>The woman is literally crying and saying things like "Matt wouldnt do that" and "he's so mean and rude"Based Capaldi still filtering people after all these years
RTD bros.. Our narrative.. There was no script...
What was Minnie the Menace locked up in a police box for?
>>221199093Being a TARDIS to society.
>>221198832
>>221196254>Did anyone else immediately drop the show after the Eleventh Doctor showed up?not directlybut image of angels and Pandorica were full nonsense , and dropped a little my interest
come on discuss stuff
>One day I shall become black.What did Terry Nation mean by this?
>>221199578Which Doctor has the biggest penis?
>>221199669fugitive
>>221199720Females can't have penises.
>>221199668the tradition of doctors dancing on gay clubs started early
>>221199745i thought you woketards were against AI.PAY AN ARTIST, SUPPORT YOUR WOKE ARTISTS.
>>221199845
>>221199040elab
>>221198985Doctor acts like the Doctor for 2 seconds and suddenly everyone loses their minds!
>>221200074>Doctor acts like the Doctor for 2 seconds and suddenly everyone loses their minds!exactly when?
>>221200100The scene where a black man turns into a white woman.
>>221199269you're just a faggot
>>221200124I don't remember
>>221198844retarded>>221196254you're retarded
>>221200171homos that got filtered by "lets kill the moon" and "forest of the night" gobble pandorica nonsense easier . why?
>>221196254The opposite. I think 11 essentially presented a better and more solidly realised version of 10, and that series 5 had a much needed injection of energy, after the RTD formula had started to show it's limitations.
>>221200271but moffat was also in the peak of his megalomania and was allowed to push the envelope (for nonsense)
And the shepherd's boy says...
>>221200293Series 5 is literally fine. It has a bunch of good self contained stories, a new set of companions who are fun, and decent overarching plot. The limitations of RTD's style really does show itself when you've been on that ride a few times already.>the Doctor shows up, goes "oh yes..." and "brilliant">meets some girl called Karen Plum or something, showers her with praise for not doing much of anything. "You're brilliant you are, Karen Plum. You make my adventures *mean* something!">Karen Plum has a family who are like "you watch yourself with that Doctor. He's a wrongun!", before they inevitably all get won over.>series arc where a villain from the classic series reappears and they're all shiny and chrome and covered in LEDs, and they're the biggest baddest most universe ending threat ever>The Murray Gold music is going off the chain, and the Doctor is running down corridors, and everything is incredibly emotional, and then you hit the deus ex machina and the whole thing deflates rather unsatisfyingly That's all he does.
...if we fight like animals, we die like animals!
>when I first got here, seven thousand years ago
i'm hatching
>Yes, I know they'll get it all wrong without me.What did Steven Moffat mean by this?
>>221200584It's what people said when RTD and DT left.
>>221200617DT? What does that mean?
>>221200635doctor troomer
>>221198079Will we ever find out what NL means?
>>221200671guess
>>221200584They all secretly knew Chris was a damp rag who can barely even be called on to write filler episodes.I fully suspect the BBC just gave him the job because he's a Yes-man, and he was eagerly supportive of the idea of a female Doctor, while Mark Gatiss is difficult and would have wanted to do it his way, which is to say he would have attempted to remake Jon Pertwee.
>>221200759Is it Nice Lad?
>>221200888correct
>>221200584tbf, the last season wtih capaldi was kinda awful, except the last episodes, you can see what made Jodie's seasons awful already infecting the writting.
>>221200909>the last season wtih capaldi was kinda awfulas poopy of s5
>>221200584They knew the Timeless Child shit was coming. Remember that Chibnall name dropped it in Jodie's second episode
>>221200909It was one of the best seasons.
>>221201066even with lezzies?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EYCmhTLS-DU
>>221201094I've never rewatched thatand I only watched the bw leaked version
>>221201081Yeah
>>221201215except the reset from the monks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cGdzVQOnbHI
>>221201066If you are trans, yes.
>>221201274Better than series 2.
>>221201297series 2 is just a gay lad repeating buzzwords
>>221201297Series 2 > Series 10 > Series 9
>>221201318
>>221201350David Tennant > Peter CapaldiChristopher Eccleston > Matt Smith
>>221201437>>221199855
>>221201318I can see how you would agree, if you are gay.
remember when people wanted sally sparrow as companion
>>221201552New Earth > Hell Bent
>>221201914homo-bait
>>221201935Rise of the Cybermen/Age of Steel > World Enough and Time/The Doctor Falls
Why are we still here? Just to suffer?
>>221201994We love Doctor Who here! Isn't that enough?
>>221201994>Why are we still here? Just to suffer?in this life? yes
>>221198844>Also Martha's black family being The Master's slaves is crazy in hindsightIt was a different time. America hadn't infected the world with their retarded race brained view of every aspect of society. Nobody really remarked on this or noticed it
>>221202058>the ultimate villain, the Master, was evil and racistwow
>>221201935>Tardis malfunction means we get a whole season with giantess 13I'd watch it.
In hindsight, im surprised there wasn't more backlash when they made Doctor Who trans
>>221201115Now that the dust has settled, did they deliberately "leak" s8 so they could gauge the reaction to an oogleh doctor?
>>221202306That leaked black and white version of Listen was so kino
>>221202306Capaldi is handsome.
>>221202236I mean, the idea of a female Doctor is one of those things that's been floating around since the 80's, and people were ready to see it attempted (even if I think it ultimately amounts to a gimmick that completely throws off the whole dynamic of the show).What people weren't really anticipating is for it to be just as weak and shit as it was.If they'd done it in the 80's or the 90's it probably actually would have been fine. They would have found someone cool, and there would have been an energy and a sexuality about it. The state of gender politics is that we have to be constantly aware of gender, and we're not allowed to have fun with any of it. No cracks about bras. No gay jokes. I don't have to explain this. You all live in this world as well. Television is a Marxist struggle session. It's not supposed to be fun.
>>221202340I love Capaldi, but I hate Listen
>>221202386Classic who had no sexuality.
>>221202386everything would be fine if the diverse would not try to change perception of reality, we could all pretend genders, and take jokes about it.
>>221201094Kek she's gonna hate Capaldi after Kill The Moon
Kill The Moon > Listen
>>221202413Only because the fandom started jacking off to the idea that the Doctor was asexual as a cope for their own virginity.
>>221200584"Appul Bobbin'"
>>221202386>The state of gender politics is that we have to be constantly aware of gender, and we're not allowed to have fun with any of itThis is why Captain Jack worked but any LGBTQ character in RTD2 didn't
>>221202462Listen is atmospheric kino if you ignore the plot
>>221202386Female Doctor could have easily worked, just make her Scully.
>>221202475All of the classic Doctors are asexual apart from 2 and 6, they are gay.
for me, it was that leaked/erroneous scene of Smith regenerating into Capaldi, where they hadn't added in the Murray Gold music yet.it was taken down and i swear it's been memoryholed. some people have recreated it (later) along with a bunch of other scenes, gives you the same idea.i can't stress enough how much i hate the Murray Gold music, /who/. the acting does it all, the music should be INCIDENTAL like in Classic. a teary scene between two actors, giving a great performance?>DUH-NUHHHHH, NUHHH-NUHHH NUHHHH!!! (LAAA-AAAA~)fuck off i know what to feel, based on what is happening. and i'd like to hear what they're saying, please.
>>221202513Baker was straight
instead of colin baker they cast helena bonham carter to play the 6th doctorwhat changes?
>>2212025133 was gay.
>>221202584correct
>>221202505Or Joanna Lumley, which they did (for all of about three minutes), and it was fine for what it was.
>>221202541He dressed gay.>>221202584Ncuti said he dressed gay too, must take one to know one.
>>221202607>Or Joanna Lumleywould be perfection
>>221202609The straightest people dress the gayest.Google Hawaiian shirts for more on this.
>>2212025131 had a wife and children, RTD retcons be damned.2 was gay,3 was gay4 shagged Romana.5 was asexual6 was gay7 was straight
>>221202525>"Sphincter.">"What?">"Sphincter, I've lost control of it."I'd imagine this would be a big problem for new Doctors. You'd think they'd be pissing and shitting themselves for a few minutes after regeneration until they get used to their new muscle structure.
>>221202656When did 1 have a wife? and 4 didn't shag Romana on screen so it didn't happen.
>>221202413JNT literally had women running around with their cleavages out, because he recognised it was a good audience pleaser, and he was making a piece of entertainment.Even the 60's stuff, as vanilla as it is (it was the 60's), it's not completely without sex or romance. The Doctor is of course implied to have had sex, because he has a granddaughter. There's a certain something between Ian and Barbara. Susan goes off with a man. They were constantly putting Zoe's arse on screen. I have to say it: this idea that the Doctor is asexual, and DW is an asexual show, is some kind of phantasm that took root in the mind of the fandom. It's not a real thing.I think secretly a lot of them perpetuated the idea because they were awkward virgins, and they didn't want their heroes on the TV having any more sex than they were having.
>>221202676This reads like something RTD would write for Torchwood.
>GBNews considered having MrTardis as a guest
>>221202694The only reason the 1st Doctor had a granddaughter is because he was supposed to be human.
>>221202751we all know that granddaughter was an euphemism for concubine
>>221202751So what? People in the 90's feverishly wrote in lore about Time Lords being asexual, for no reason. It's stupid. He can be an alien and have children.
>>2212026941st had a wife.2 fucked Jamie.3 shagged everything that moved.4 genuinely might have been asexual.5 fucked Nyssa.6 was a mad incel, but he wanted Peri.7 fucked Ace every which way.
>>221202751Loomed from his DNA as a second generation clone or something.
>>221202681>When did 1 have a wife?He had a family on his home planet. All of these questions revolving around Susan's origins came later on because people didn't want the Doctor to have fucked so she had to have been loomed or was the secret grandchild of the Other who the Doctor reincarnated from. There's also the Aztecs woman but that doesn't really count.> 4 didn't shag Romana on screen so it didn't happen.It's close enough to make him straight.
Looms > Lewds
>>221202774
There was also some degree of late 90's seethe about Paul McGann's Doctor being a more conventional action hero and kissing a woman on screen.Deserved, maybe. it was an example of how they had attempted to Americanise the franchise, and turn this very British "weird uncle with secrets" kind of character, into something they understood, which was Captain Kirk, or MacGyver or something (insert your own American TV references).On the other hand, the Doctor is allowed to cycle through personas. it's kind of the idea.
>>221202912>Doctor is allowed to cycle through personas. it's kind of the idea.this, but within limits of the ludicrous
The Doctor is an intergalactic nonce. Not only does he show disdain for his own species because they're his intellectual equals (Romana I) but he grooms humans from literal children to be his "companions", he has done this with both Ace and Rose, but more than this every Timelord-human relationship is inherently a tale of power abuse due to humans being intellectually incapable of consenting.
>>221202936Why is being visibly heterosexual beyond the pale, when he previously had a granddaughter?
>>221202954bearded fellas have kids sometimes
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k8b662e0N7s
>>221202936Didn't Romana waste a few of her regenerations just for the hell of it, like trying on new clothes?
>>221202977So, this is about gay men trying to claim the character because he dresses loud, and doesn't explicitly have sex with every woman he meets?I mean, he doesn't have sex with the men either.
>>221203003Yeah, walking into the room and blowing her brains out each time. In all honesty, my head canon is that she was a higher rank of Time Lord, and as such, had the ability to "try on" regenerations before settling on one.
>>221198985Capaldi does the same thing in Mummy On The Orient Express. Based and we should have gotten more like that instead of Hip Grandpa.
>>221203032>blowing her brains out each timeWouldn't work. Time Lords must be mortally wounded, but still just alive to regenerate. A shot in the head would kill them instantly.
>>221203078What a load of shit. This is contradicted on screen heaps of times.
>>221203032>Yeah, walking into the room and blowing her brains out each time.she wasted only rest of Romana 1 lifewe know very well, canon stretches the perks of 24h regeneration a lot, so resetting faces must be a perk that Doctor never learnt
>>221203100Nah, I think that's correct. We even see in Turn Left, there's always the possibility of the Doctor just dying, and not regenerating.
>>221203100When have they shown a Time Lord being shot in the head and regenerating in the show (pre-Chibnall)?
>>221201066The only thing i remember from that season was Bill yet again announcing she's a lesbian to a bunch of Roman soldiers, and the soldiers think she's some kind of prude for sticking to 1 gender. I thought that was funny.
>>221203078Yes, they're not Wolverine.
>>221203164This scene always bugged me. So The Doctor can just heal people at will? Why has he never done this before? What does River mean by a "waste of regeneration energy"? We know it's a limit of 12, but is the energy itself finite? Will the Doctor regenerate missing a hand? Also, I thought 11 was supposed to be The Doctor's final incarnation.
>>221203250>caring about any of this river song bullshitUtter fanwank by Moffat, it's about as canon and relevant as flux.
>>221203250the other anon has a point. pretty much every river appearance after her first one in the library was fully retarded and made no sense. like even more than usual for a time travel show
>>221203250Chibnall made the Doctor immortal so none of it really matters anymore.
>>221203250>Why has he never done this before?It tends to fuck things up for the timelord down the road if you use it willy nilly. > Will the Doctor regenerate missing a hand? Only in that initial period after regeneration.>Also, I thought 11 was supposed to be The Doctor's final incarnation.The answer to that is that 11 wasn't originally meant to be the final regeneration as the War Doctor wasn't planned. But you can just handwave it by saying that the Doctor has some energy left, just not enough to regenerate.
>>221203250It's crazy how often sci-fi writers make this mistake. The writers of Stargate had a system where if you establish a rule it has to work that way every time. So if you establish that the laser staff thing can blast through walls, then you have to take that into account every time a character is trapped in a room (and better yet, just not do it).How is this not just common wisdom regarding big SF and fantasy franchises?
>>221203359>It tends to fuck things up for the timelord down the road if you use it willy nilly>Uses it to heal a broken wrist
>>221203003I just assumed she was in a state of flux and it was only one regeneration. She regenerated purposefully and was coherent during the process which makes me now wonder if all the crazyness in post regeneration just comes from traumatic death?Not that Doctor Who sticks so strictly to its own canon.
>>221203376River is the love of the Doctor's life so that's probably why he did it, she's probably why Capaldi is an old oogleh man.
Also another reason the timeless child is shit, if the Doctor has infinite regeneration energy AND can heal everyone with that regeneration energy why doesn't he just blast himself throughout the entire universe and heal everything everywhere simultaneously?This is the problem when you make the Doctor a God.
>>221203443It would have just made more sense if the Timeless Child was the Master, gone crazy after being abused and used the Time Lords.
>>221203502it would have made more sense if they never did it at all. it has to be the stupidest fucking idea in the history of this show
>>221203428doesn't really work either, because he got topped up with regeneration energy before he turned into Capaldi. If anything, he just spent whatever he had left because he knew he probably wasn't going to regenerate again.
Which was the biggest asspull?>rose swallows the heart of the tardis and becomes an omnipresent and all powerful god who saves the universe>the entire planet is overrun by daleks and cybermen but they're all sucked into the void between worlds>everyone on earth simply believes in the doctor at the same time and this makes him deage, and is able to reverse timei would list the rest of the series finales but i've repressed a lot of them
>>221203428>River is the love of the Doctor's life>13 calls Yaz "the one"She got over that pretty quickly, the floozy.
>>221203611>chibnall, you must have the doctor declare her undying lesbian love for her companion at the end of the series>simply puts it in with literally zero prior buildup to itbased chibnall dabbing on box tickers
>>221203610I'll go for "Donna becomes the Doctor-Donna(I still don't understand what the fuck this is), plays with some control panels, and makes all of the Daleks spin(why do they have this within reach?)"
>>221203250Eccleston, episode #2He closes his eyes and passes through a spinning bladePhasing? Teleportation? Super speed? Never explained, never brought up againDoctor Who is full of this shit. Asspulls that are only relevant for one scene
>>221203610Out of those, Series 3.TARDISes are vague so you can handwave it, and the void stuff is just typical science fiction mumbo jumbo.
>>221203610the black woman defeating those pyramid alien guys with the power of love
>>221196254Series 5 is the best nu-Who.
>>221203637It's a bit weird, but it's believable he would have that skill. Considering his speech about feeling the Earth spin in Rose, I think RTD was trying to make the Doctor hyper-aware of time.
>>221203341>Chibnall made the Doctor immortal so none of it really matters anymore.every small problem the doctor could open the hearth of the tardis, get infected, make a wish to solve the problem, die and regenerate.could even solve the middle east problem by making a wish.
>>221180163you talking to yourself mate?
>>221203671>It's a bit weird, but it's believable he would have that skill. It is believable he would have that skillIt is not believable that he has literally never used it as ever again
>>221203673I always assumed that the regeneration limit was placed to justify why the doctor doesn't just completely ignore risk of death, especially with how absurdly powerful he is while/just after regeneratingMaking the doctor have infinite regenerations really demonstrates how low the writing has fallen
>>221203703>It's a bit weirdTransmigration. That has to be the biggest asspull power the Doctor has.
>>221203756it is a comment on self imposed limits that our government place on uscould have been used for good plots by a competent writer
nu >>221203771
>>221203703If anything, it's a hold over from the TV movie, where the Doctor is just aware of time, somehow.Idk. It was one of those silly wilderness years things, that never quite caught on.>he's a lord of time, so that means he has dominion over time somehow!No. That's not what that means. You failed to understand the assignment.
>>221203610the archangel network wasn't an asspullidk if /who/ is just pretending to be retarded to shit on RTD or what but the entire plot is that the master took power using mind control, and then the doctor took away his power using the same mind control satellites. thats not an asspull. thats honestly less of an asspull than most episodes
>>221203847The mind control network giving him superhero powers and reversing time is pretty hard to justify
>>221203864i think that's because they destroyed the paradox engine or whatever the fuck.I don't know. it's RTD nonsense.
>>221203847The archangel network was subliminal-influencing tech, it made no sense that it could suddenly de-age someone just because everyone was thinking about it.
>>221203661>Bill's mum just went viral
>>221203663Series 6 is better.
>>221203703Well he's never had to go through a super fast object again.
>>221203876You are correct, destroying the paradox engine is what reversed time. The archangel network deaging the Doctor made no sense however considering it was a mind control device and was never established to have any other such abilities, that was classic asspull
>>221203876Jack didn't destroy it until after him getting younger.
