>>221179953
I don't understand how people defend this character motivation. It is absolutely retarded and I don't give a shit if this dude had attachment issues his actions are way too fucking insane to be justified even by those standards.

>>221179953
???
AoTC show him killing arabs and he was a slave asa child by (((watto)))

>>221179999
the plot jumped the shark when sheev told him to go slaughter jedi and kids and he was just like "lol ok master"

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>I am a tragic character and I am going insane AHHHHHHHHHH SAVE ME NIGGERMAN

>>221180029
But remember he was already experienced with slaughtering kids

The thing is, Star Wars was always about a galaxy of retards so I don’t get why everyone acts like the prequels should’ve been some kind of brilliant character study about anakins heel-turn. I don’t get why Lucas needed to make three movies about it anyway. Like, who asked for that? He was a Jedi who went bad - we didn’t need to see it.

you know what would have been better. if obi wan noticed something was off and then went to tattooine to dive deeper into his childhood. and then discovered that he did something horrifying as a child and was hiding his evil the whole time. obviously it would need to be fleshed out more but you get the point. the problem is that vader want exactly evil, he was a knight to the Emperor

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>>221179953
Jeffrey Dean Morgan should have played Anakin and his turn to the dark side should have been a product of way more tramatic events other then just his mom dying.
We should have seen people we/Anakin actually care about actually die in the clone wars and we should have seen go Anakin get a massive cult like following among the clones.
It would make this fucking 17 year old kid suddenly becoming the galactic vice president make a lot more sense if he was less of whiney bitch and more of a war hero with an independent following throughout the republic.

>>221180160
It's an Obi-Wan discovers Ani's secret snuff porn stash episode

>>221179953
Watch The Clone Wars, you can see the cracks start to form and his growing disdain for the way the Jedi Order fucks up.
By the start of Episode III he's already overly emotional and no longer objective at the start of the movie. His downfall started in the Clone Wars

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>>221180082
He's literally me

>>221180245
You realize this is an admission the movie can't properly articulate Anakin's fall right?

>>221179953
He just like me
Years ago I woke up to 3 massive bleeding claw marks on my back (where I couldn't reach) after dreams of people I know being burned for eternity if I don't kill myself and "swap". It's started again though and I'm seriously considering the trade

>>221180374
>>221180258
Don't get mad at me, this was George's plan from the start. He wanted The Clone Wars to be told properly through a long from format and he always wanted it to be animated to be cutting edge.

But the basic gist of the show if you don't want to watch:

>Jedi council becoming overly beaurocratic and attached too close to the state
>Jedi council slow to act when they needed to be fast - Palpatine exploits this because he purposely supports Anakin when the Jedi is sluggish to react
>multiple times they basically disavow clone troopers and treat them like garbage
>Jedi Council falsely accused Anakin's apprentice of treason and then when they were proven wrong didn't even apologize for this mistake- the whole ordeal was so scandalous that the apprentice leaves the jedi order. This hits Anakin really hard
>Jedi masters leaving the order to become dark jedi or mercenaries further proved to anakin that the writings on the wall for the jedi order
>"when did it all go wrong for the jedi?" - "when we started to call ourselves generals"

>>221180503
>George planned
This is such cope. The prequels were obviously written one at a time with very little thought in how they progressed. The only reason they seemed planned was because the ending already existed.

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>>221179953
>Anakin's attachment to his mother is established in the first film
>"wtf why didn't George Lucas make him a cool teenager instead of an annoying kid"
>Anakin fails to save his mother and takes revenge on some savage beasts
>"wtf what an incel freak, I can't believe ANY woman would care for a man who is strong and protective and loves his mother"
>Anakin grows disillusioned with the Republic and Jedi order and their failure to protect the galaxy
>"wtf he turned evil for no reason"

>>221179953
him killing the youngling was too much. his fall is actually believable otherwise. the order doesn't trust him and he doesn't trust them. the only thing he cares about is his wife. he sees visions of her dying just like he did with his mom (who actually died). palpatine offers him a chance to save her. when confronted with a choice between the jedi and palpatine he chooses palpatine (I need him!). after that he's completely devastated and ready to suck cock and eat shit just to save padme. and after that he's coping that "well I commited unforgivable crimes afainst the republic but I swear I'll overthrow that jerk palpatine somehow". and after suffering a humiliating defeat and becoming disabled with padme dead he just gives up because his will is utterly buckbroken.
his rampage on mustafar was believable because he genuinely hated the seps and probably dreamed about it for a long time. but killing younglings is out of character. if lucas really wanted to include this scene he should've made it so anakin unlocks the door, the kid is asking him what to do and anakin just leaves and lets clones it. not him personally slaughtering them.

>>221179953
Anon is right that the clone wars fill in the details and flesh out Anakin's story, but there's still evidence in the movies themselves.

Episode 1
>Anakin is saved from slavery by the Jedi
>But has to leave his mom behind
>Jedi who saves him is killed immediately
>Has to get taught by Obi Wan, who is not ready to teach yet

Episode 2
>Starts with Anakin being skilled in combat, but bad at Jedi teachings and patience
>Falls in love with Padme, but this is bad because Jedi are incels
>Goes on a rant about how facism isn't bad as long as he's the one in charge
>Visions of his mother dying
>Leaves Jedi duty to go to his mom
>Slaughters an entire village out of anger
>Loses his hand because he's immature and cocky during the fight with Dooku
>Marries Padme in secret

Episode 3
>Still hot headed and has trouble following orders
>Conflicted about killing Dooku as he was disarmed and could have been a valuable asset
>Visions of Padme dying trigger his PTSD from his Mom
>Jedi council don't grant him master rank (rightfully so btw)
>Jedi tell him to spy on his father figure
>Palpatine uses his fear of Padme dying to manipulate him
>Windu seems hypocritical when he's about to kill Palpatine
>Anakin chooses to save Palpatine so he can save Padme

He was never a model Jedi and always struggled with the light side of the force and following Jedi teachings. The Jedi were right in that attachment can leave you vulnerable and open to manipulate and descent to the dark side. But they should have seen the signs the "chosen one" and Uber powerful Jedi was a loose canon and made him sit back during the war.

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>>221179953
It was a slow boil and culmination of various issues that the trilogy never properly showcased. I mean, it's one thing to be somewhat jaded and have issues with the Jedi Order due to your special circumstances, it's a WHOLE another thing to go Dark Side so suddenly in such a short time and engage in complete 180 treason and even child-killing.

As always, the Clone Wars series greatly helps to alleviate this. And yet it still fills a bit shaky.

>>221180732
>Goes on a rant about how facism isn't bad as long as he's the one in charge
Actually during this scene Padme asks him if he means himself and he says "not me but someone "wise"

This is page right out of Plato's Republic where a wise autocrat rules over civilization to be more decisive and organized than a democracy (hints at him deferring absolute rule to emperor Palpatine) . They also addressed this in The Clone Wars and in the movies, Anakin started to believe that the senate had become a circus of squabbling children that couldn't govern at all. And there's plenty of evidence of their incompetence, ironically like the infamous "dellow fellagates" scene.

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Anyone who defends it is honestly retarded and usually not worth engaging with further.
I do actually think Anakin is a largely understandable and well fleshed out character for a long time. The moment it goes into absolutely retarded nonsense is
>"Save me Anakin! If you save me here I can save Padme from dying!"
>"Okay" *kills jedi master in cold blood to do so*
>"Well, that was fucked up, but can you please save her now? She's about to give birth at any moment, which is when she will die"
>"Hah... well, I DON'T actually know how to save her. haha... B-but... we can definitely work it out together. We have time, for sure. Anyway, instead of doing that, could you please go to the jedi temple now and murder all your friends and children who were just like you."
Then he unironically accepts this situation and just does it.

You'll get the whole "b-but he murdered all the sand people when they killed his mother! That's totally the same thing". It is not. What he did there was the equivalent of hunting down a pack of savage wild dogs and it was in response to them being responsible for his mother's murder. This is in no way comparable to walking into a temple full of children just like you and murdering them en masse because the evil guy who admitted he lied to you told you to do it.

>>221179953
>>randomly goes insane in the 3rd movie because he had a bad dream
>uh okay
Writer envisions an epic tale of a would be hero falling into evil after lived in trials and tribulations, ups and downs, heartbreak and sorrow, happiness and love and all the things enough to fill several seasons of a well crafted television series....>"YOU GOT 3 HOUR AND HALF MOVIES TO TELL IT"

FFFUFFUFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU!!!!!!

>>221180111
No man, you don't understand. He HAD to explain that Vader wasn't just a fallen jedi. He was actually evil jedi Jesus and ALSO prophecized to kill Sheev.

3 years of brutal total war.
I

>>221180245
>Watch the Clone Wars
People who say this are so gay, man. Clone Wars Anakin and movie Anakin may as well be different characters. Shit doesn't fit into the movies at all. There's so much extra gay shit in there as well that also doesn't fit or shouldn't exist.

>>221180245
>Watch The Clone Wars
yeah i gotta finish Dora first

>>221180245
Rewatching them now : in one episode its implied he tortures a prisoner off screen to get information

>>221179953
Yeah Lucas could have done a bit more work on his arc
Maybe not even have the prequels take place 20 years from new hope . Like have it take place 100s of years before ?
Maybe make the movies so they are from anakin’s perspective so hes basically a hero saving the galaxy

>>221179953
He basically got tricked by Palpatine into joining him, then Palpatine pretty much admitted that he tricked him and Anakin just stayed on his side anyway. It was really stupid.

>>221179953
>>221179999
He was denied rank of jedi master despite being extremely capable, dedicated and an instrumental soldier in the war.
His mom was raped and killed by sand monkeys.
His wife and mother to both of his children was dying.

He had every right to go to the darkside. Also the jedi are literally retards who got duped by palpy, why would you not want to be on the winning team?

>>221180889
The real funny joke was Palpatine did know how to extend life just not the way Anakin thought (the inverse if anything) and Anakin accidentally did exactly that and killed Padme

>>221180687
Also a lot of people seemingly miss Palpatine and Mace Windu saying the same thing leading Anakin to think that the Jedi are just as bad as the Sith for not following their own teachings. And obviously Anakin thinking he needs Palpatine alive to save Padme, and knowing the Jedi wont let him live after killing Windu and joining with a Sith lord.

>Palpatine after Anakin kills Dooku: "He was too dangerous to be kept alive.
>Windu when he's about to kill Palpatine: "He's too dangerous to be kept alive!"

>>221180980
>sand monkeys
The correct term is Tusken Tatooinians, please.

>>221181000
Its like poetry, it rhymes

>>221180889
Massacring the younglings was too far, and happened way too soon after he turned. After he turned to the dark side he didn't really struggle with it and fully embraced it immediately, which kind of kills a lot of the tension and intrigue with his story.

I'm sure there's some EU explanation of the dark side and how once you embrace a small part of it, it quickly consumes you or some shit.

you losers go insane because a women hasn't touched you lol

>>221180980
>He was denied rank of jedi master despite being extremely capable, dedicated and an instrumental soldier in the war.
He never once followed an order on screen and very clearly did not take to the Jedi teachings. He had no patience, was selfish and aggressive. He had raw power and talent, but was a shitty student.

>>221180474
>trusting demons
ok retard

>>221181132
>>221180980
On top of that the jedi order isn't meant to be a military organization so the idea of "he's such a good fighter and commander" is something that would actually have no significant bearing. It's like saying the priest who is strongest hand-to-hand combatant should be pope. Of course, it's not really people's fault for thinking this way because their brain has been poisoned by rule of cool "actually every jedi master was a giga-hyper fighter that could kill 50 guys solo" even though they look like retarded puppets and gag characters."

>>221179953
his mother getting enslaved and dying horribly to space arabs was a dream???

>>221179953
I have nightmares every now and then and it doesn't bother me. But once in a while I have a dream of falling in love with a nonexistent woman and I spend the day depressed it will never happen.

>>221181180
I think they were lineant with Anakin because they were at war. They were desperate and having a powerful Jedi during that time was worth it, even if he struggled with the teachings of the Order. I think if they weren't at war, they would have kicked him out after a few years, chosen one or not.

>>221179953
sounds like my ex-gfs

>>221179953
he was already a psycho asshole, note the sand people incident. all it took was a small bit of encouragement for him to go full school shooter mode

>>221181209
I also sometimes dream i have friends and a rich social life... sucks the most.

>>221179999
he's got an evil space wizard beaming force stupidity at him

>>221181209
I have nightmares every night about my ex. Some nights we are falling back in love, other nights I'm trying to save her from death, and occasionally she makes me hurt her or kill her, even though I'm crying and begging her to stop.

>>221180160
>he built c3-po to murder all the sandpeople because he knew they'd rape his mother to death and was interrupted by the whole podrace thing
>its all obiwan's fault

>>221181234
It's definitely why they treated him the way they did. They even literally tell him as much when they give him the rank of master but don't give him a lot of the rights of a master. It's because they need him for the war.

>>221180702
children. call them children. the only reason the movie doesn't call them children is because george didn't want the line "you murdered children in cold blood" in the movie.

>>221181180
>the priest who is strongest hand-to-hand combatant should be pope
that's actually how the pope is elected. its the entire reason why they don't let anyone witness the proceedings.

>>221181297
bam, explanation for the memory wipes of the droids and obiwan going "uhhhh no never had no droids"

>>221181180
Literally all we see the jedi do in the prequels is fight and basically be special forces for the Republic, so I'm gonna see them as a military force.

Palpatine used the force to activate his MLK ultra sleeper cell through a dream

>>221181180
seems like most of the jedi are jobbers at fighting though., take the dinosaur head guy who got double tapped in the bug arena. or those other high ranking jedi that sheev was able to kill in like three seconds.

>>221179953
Happened with a former best friend of mine. The guy was a fucking Chad loved and admired by everyone, but randomly became a junkie prostitute and was in jail last time I've heard of him. He might be dead nowadays, but I wouldn't know.

>>221181410
Look, man. I genuinely think the prequels are pieces of shit that shouldn't have been made. However, that is one of the main points regarding their downfall. The Jedi had strayed from what they were meant to be. They were meant to be neutral peace keepers who abstained from war. Instead that became politically charged and dived head-first into a war they should never have been a part of.

>>221179953
read the novelization of the movie and watch the clone wars cartoon, it explains everything

>>221181459
The Order was a shell of it's former self. There hadn't been a confrontation with Sith in 1000 years, so they were never fully challenged. "Good times create weak men" unironically. That's one of the reasons Palpatine was able to take over so easily. The Jedi were weak and easy to slaughter.

>>221181180
>It's like saying the priest who is strongest hand-to-hand combatant should be pope.
Yes.

>>221179953
Just give Anakin Homelander’s origin where hes created in a lab and tortured to become a super Jedi but he really just wants a normal life
Have Padme die in second movie and hes totally bonkers in the third

>>221180702
>anakin just leaves and lets clones it. not him personally slaughtering them
That's actually how it happens in the novelization. Anakin finds the younglings hiding in the temple garden protected by a Jedi master. He duels and kills the master, then steps aside as the clones gun down the kids.

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TCW is nine times longer watch time than all 3 prequel movies combined. or 27 more movies
to put it another way. I like TCW warts and all and consider it episode 2.5 and essentially part of the PT. But there is a lot of bloat and filler in it.

>>221181459
First battle of the clone wars they lose 180 jedi in minutes to rescue two jedi and a senator.

>>221183269
That's way too much starwars.

>>221179953
nigger it's a movie. it didn't literally happen in 2 hours

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>>221180503
they should have killed askoa as well,
i think george wanted that , but he out of the way for the last disney season 7

>>221179953
the satan (plapatine) was sending him bad vibes via the force

>>221180029
I never said anything about the kids.
I wanted them to build a sith army instead of my retard inquisitors I ended having to use.
mfw Darth Retard killed all of them

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>>221179953
Shouldn't have wasted an entire film on him as a toddler, they would have had more opportunity to build more character growth.

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>>221183988
Are you part of it?

>>221179999
No, they weren't, in the first movie he saw the jedi abandon her mom to her slave life, in the second he went to save her himself but it was too late as the jedi didn't let him go sooner so he killed the sand people (even the children), in the third movie he sees the jedi hypocrisy in full when Mace Windu tries to kill Palpatine for being too dangerous (same as how Palpatine told him to kill Dooku for the same reason), by that point is clear to him the jedi and sith are the same shit so he might as well side with the one letting him save his loved one over the jedi who wants hil to let her die again, the jedi are obviously the bad guys now so he has to kill them, even the children

>>221183218
yes, because george chickened out hard about having "there's still good in him" be a cold blooded murderer of defenseless children who knew him by name and looked to him for protection

>>221180245
I like the ep where Anakin meets Tarkin and they bond over their love of authoritarian dictatorship

>>221183684
why do you need a graph to show the runtime of three movies? and why is the scale up to 60?

>>221179953
>>221179999
Reminder that the Episode 3 that exists where Anakin throws away everything because he thinks Sheev can save his wife is the result of reshoots. The original cut had Anakin join Palpatine just because he was a greedy shithead who just wanted power, a bad person. Audiences were confused why the backstory built up for 3 movies amounted to "he was just a bad person" and George rewrote it to have an element of tragedy.

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TPM was the best prequel (and better than Return of the Mid too)

>>221184139
I'm taking a shit right now. It's an infinitely better experience than that movie.

>>221181151
I didn't initially and still don't though mundane events have been engineered to force my hand

>>221184213
JJDS

>>221181564
>The Jedi had strayed from what they were meant to be. They were meant to be neutral peace keepers who abstained from war. Instead that became politically charged and dived head-first into a war they should never have been a part of.
I always thought that was part of Palpatine's plan to manipulate the prophecy, the way things were supposed to be is the jedi follow the will of the force so they keep the balance while the sith use the force to enact their own will which unbalances the force, Palpatine inverted that by making the jedi invested in politics so they were using the force for their own purposes while Palpatine was just playing politics and manipulating everyone without using the force so he wasn't affecting the balance, that way the prophecy would end up targeting the jedi instead of him to restore the balance

>>221179953
Starwars prequel are so fucking KINO. They're like reading a book, plebs just don't get the nuance behind every artistic decision, including the dialogue and direction.

>>221179953
It do be like that sometimes tho

>>221184127
Source: trust me bro

>>221179953
>he had a bad dream
so, everything else that happen had no impact on his choice of alienating the assholes that used and brainwashed him hmm?

>>221179953
>randomly goes insane
That's just how men are, all the testosterone makes them very emotionally instable.

>>221180029
Anakin knows he's crossed a terrible threshold and knows he's making a pact with Satan himself.
You can see it in his face. But he's got essentially no other options at this point.

>>221184575
That's a lie, research shows testosterone injections make men more fair and rational

>>221184603
He could behead sheev and then take all the credit. I just don't think there was enough sunk cost to justify him going and murdering children

>>221180732
>Starts with Anakin being skilled in combat, but bad at Jedi teachings and patience
He's actually really good at these things. Better than Obi Wan. He doesn't take risks that jeopardizes missions ((except when prompted by Obi wan leading by example) they're having a brotherly peacocking thing going on).
His sense of frustration comes with knowing in his bones he's faster and stronger and more sensitive than his ~master~ but having to slow down.
>Goes on a rant about how facism isn't bad as long as he's the one in charge
Misunderstanding his point. He wants *Padme* to be in charge. He bases his entire political understanding on what she achieved in episode 1, and would like her to do it for the whole galaxy.

Other than that solid breakdown.

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>>221179953
>randomly goes insane in the 3rd movie
nah, he snapped in the second after seeing how his mom was raped and killed

being treated like a child by the jedi council after all the feats he accomplished during the clone wars allowed palpatine to come in and manipulating him over to the dark side

>>221184651
He already killed evil children on episode 2, why wouldn't he do it again?

>>221184304
This unironically. OT fans were mad that it wasn't a simple space western and required listening and thinking. I went back and watched all of the Star Wars movies (1-6) this year and the prequels hold their weight. I and II are a little dull, but if you actually pay attention they are very tense and Anakin's descent to the dark side is clear.

>>221184651

Killing sheev means a 0% chance of saving padme, which is the whole thing that anakin is trying to do at that point in the story

>>221184023
The entire first film is characterization for Anakin.
What, do you want pure exposition instead? "Boo hoo I had such a shitty childhood"

>>221184697
Sheer kino

>>221184651
He believed Sheev could help him prevent Padme's death.

In a comic, after the duel with Obi Wan on Mustafar, Vader wakes up and Sidious tells him Padme died. Vader rages out and tries to kill him, but is shocked and his suit fucks up and really hurts him. Vader relizes that he can't kill Sidious on his own because of how much the suit is nerfing him. In the Force Unleashed games he trains an apprentice to help him try to kill Sidious. Fuck even in ESB and ROTJ he tells Luke to join him and they could rule the galaxy together.

Vader was always trying to usurp Sidious.

>>221184692
>He wants *Padme* to be in charge.
And Padme says that it isn't democracy and that everyone should have a say in their representation in the government. Anakin has a very immature understanding of politics. A dictatorship sounds great if the dictator is good, but I think one of the morals of the prequels is how power currupts. And a good dictator with absolute power will eventually become corrupted.

It's another thing Lucas borrowed from Dune.

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>>221179953
Have Anakin already be played by Hayden in the first movie and he falls in love with padme
They are married and have baby twins in second movie
But they are “killed” by separatist bombings at the end
Anakin is no full on revenge mode and teams with his old pal Sheev to kill everyone (also he blames Jedi for not doing enough to stop the war)
Kenobi comes to stop Anakin and they have a huge fight on lava world but Anakin catches on fire
>the twins didn’t die in the bombing but kenobi found them and hid them from Anakin since he knew he was turning evil

>>221179953
Anyone in 1997 who went to the theatre and expected Star Wars to improve after Jamaican CGI Roger Rabbit stepped in poop and made fart sounds with its mouth, was then, and is today, a FUCKING RETARD.

Star Wars been absolute garbage since the Prequels. All of it. The sheer volume of goyslop generated in the last 30 years absolutely buries any diamond in the shit. KOTOR and Andor don't make up for 10 shit movies, 20 shit TV shows, 30 shit games, and literal thousands and thousands of tons of cheap plastic factory slop from China.

Fuck the whole enterprise.

>>221179953
...and people are bitching why Luke wanted kill his nephew because of bad dream.

>>221184909
There's old interviews with Mark Hamil from the 80's talking about the prequels. He said Luke was supposed to be 5yo and it was going to follow the story of Anakin during the clone wars and how he became Vader.

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>>221179953
many such cases

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>>221179953
>randomly
Did you not watch AotC? My question is why she didn't give a single fuck that he killed a bunch of alien women and children, most women would nope the fuck out.

>>221185011
Prime Hayden will do that to ya

>>221184983
That would have worked better
Maybe even Vader knowing his kids survived but blocked the information because he didn’t want sheev to find them

>>221179953
the screentime was needed for shit like the robot factory video game platforming sequence in the second movie

>>221185011
They were sand"people"

>>221184042
>in the first movie he saw the jedi abandon her mom to her slave life
Anakin was literally given a choice to stay on Tatoonie or become a Jedi. This is a moot point as Anakin made the choice himself.
>in the second he went to save her himself but it was too late as the jedi didn't let him go sooner so he killed the sand people (even the children)
Yeah cool and he recognized what he did was fucking vile and he shouldn't have gone apeshit on the villagers.
>in the third movie he sees the jedi hypocrisy in full when Mace Windu tries to kill Palpatine for being too dangerous (same as how Palpatine told him to kill Dooku for the same reason)
Literally not even a concern to Anakin. He just wanted Sheev alive to teach him how to stop people from dying.
>by that point is clear to him the jedi and sith are the same shit so he might as well side with the one letting him save his loved one over the jedi who wants him to let her die again
Weird because Sheev literally tells Ani boy he actually doesn't know how to stop people from dying before sending him off to murder kids. Making his betrayal completely pointless.
>the jedi are obviously the bad guys now so he has to kill them, even the children
No dumbass Anakin isn't killing some Jedi kids especially when he has actual frame of reference for being indoctrinated as a Jedi student. Anakin would be trying to rescue those kids from a life under jedi tutorship, not kill them.

You fail on all fronts.

>>221185011
you tend to get a pass on a lot of things when you're a clairvoyant space wizard who's mother was raped to death by not-arabs.

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>>221179953
>randomly goes insane in the 3rd movie
He was always a pyschopath
We're talking about a preteen podracing and shooting up the inside of a space ship

>>221185187
>Anakin was literally given a choice to stay on Tatoonie or become a Jedi. This is a moot point as Anakin made the choice himself.
Bruh he was only 9 years old...

>>221185274
if kids can transition at 9 then they can be jedi at 9

>>221185340
Kids shouldn't be able to make those decisions at such a young age

Also Anakin was "too old" to become a Padawan, but an exception was made because muh prophecy. The children usually join the Order at 5

>>221185215
The entire series is about him devolving into a soulless machine until he dies.he creates an ultra rare truly sentient bot. Then go on a kill rampage killing bots and several thousand people as a child.
Let’s not even talk about the sand people.
He’s either been beaten or in a death race or seeing his mom being beaten for him losing, then goes into child soldiering on accident as him and obi due to Jedi politics keep heading out of suicide missions.

I don’t get it maybe zoomers missed the fake his mom is supposed to be 30-32 in pm. She’s just all fucked up coverered in scares

>>221179953
Accurate fatherless behavior

>>221185687
why is prequel defense always complete and total headcanon?

He was taken by the Jedi and told he'd be like their Messiah. Meanwhile, he saw his mother dying and was unable to help her, which is what gave him the ideas of "if we have power, we must use them". Everything he does after that is a rebellion, marrying Padme is the most obvious one. And then, he was told he wasn't even going to be a Master. That was when he realized he owed them nothing. His whole development is right there. He ends up paranoid after so many people failed him. We knew he was able to murder since he killed the sand people, even the kids. Padme just shrugged it off because she already had the hots for him.

the PT films make sense they're just done in the dumbest way possible because George got up his own ass learning about classic plays and writing. dude thought his shit was hot when he wrote the movies like fucked up epics.

>>221185011
Sandpeople are not human

>>221181267
this is the only accurate explanation

snyderjeet vibes

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i think about the Empire every day

>>221180732
Quality post. I'm not a fan of the prequels, but Anakin's character arc is not the problem.

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>>221179953 >>221179999 >>221180029
>So for them to try to analyze it, they're lost.
George was right again... I kneel...

>>221183269
>umbara arc
Kino