How did this little old man make some people so mad?
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>>221187072>acts like a retard by saying retarded shit without evidence>people call him out for being retarded>"lol u mad?"
>>221187276What's retarded about making theories about things that have no other satisfactory explanation? Isn't that how science works?
>>221187072it's not him, it's all the you that believe him
>>221187520no that isnt how science works and 99% of the things he talks about have perfectly satisfactory explanations and also the explanations he proposes are completely retarded
>>221187520>how much of the Sahara have you excavated?>every grain of sand? No?>WELL MY CIVILIZATION IS OBVIOUSLY IN ALL THE PLACES YOU HAVEN'T DUG CHECKMATE SMITHSONIAN Absence of evidence is not evidence. His numbers shticks is pretty funny as well because you can essentially math any set of numbers to align with other numbers. He's a grifter charlatan who sells $5000 tickets to his trips where he walks you around well known historical sites and tells you why only HE is correct about their real history. Despite never digging or funding a dig with all his kileflix money.Hopefully his heart gives out soon because none of the parasite grifters will survive without him as a host and I won't have to hear their garbage parroted anymore.
Go watch his new video with the CEO nigger podcast or whatever. He unironically says ancient humans had telepathy and telekinesis. He's a raving drug addict that will rant for hours his drugs aren't legal. He rants about how we all emerged from shamanism because he's addicted to DMT.
>>221187072Academics hate people disagreeing with them because they’re arrogant. If they approached Hancock’s ideas in good faith instead of dismissing them and calling him racist then he wouldn’t have half as much Streisand effect propelling him towards popularity.
>>221187825>If they approached Hancock’s ideas in good faithIt would be like you're a doctor, let's say a leading brain surgeon, pioneer of the craft. Then comes along some crackpot who says you're wrong and stupid because he has read a lot about brain surgery and looked at a lot of skulls and done a bunch of DMT where the brain god revealed the secrets of brain surgery. And this guy charges $5000 to take randoms on a tour of the brain surgery museum where he shit talks you and your trade.Why the fuck would anyone give him the time of day? Archaeologists know what they've doing. They're paid like absolute shit to do it so it's hilarious he insinuates there's some global cabal of them. Most make less than a burger flipper and would absolutely sell out secrets if there were any to be had.
>>221187554It's called a hypothesis.
>>221187988None of your gay effort post has anything to do with Hancock.
>>221188027He's a British leftist drug addict who sells books and tours to retards. It all applies to hand cock and I'm glad his vaxxie heart is about to explode
>>221187988If it’s not worth their time they should ignore him instead of bitching and moaning about the guy. And yes all academics function in big networks and are well known for snubbing/ruining the careers of people who go against the norm, not even specifically Hancock
>>221187781yikes
>>221188070They do ignore him. There's a reason only one guy has ever degraded himself to a debate. He's a grifter and his grift will end when he does.
>>221188045>I'm glad his vaxxie heart is about to explodeWoah buddy. You think you know better than leading vaccinologists? Pioneers of the craft? You fucking crackpots think you're right because you read a lot about vaccines and looked at a lot of bullshit conspiracy theories? What the fuck drugs are you on?
>>221188101You make a thread about him every day.
>How did this little old man make some people so mad?
>>221188102I golf with a group of doctors and they all told me not to take that shit because it had been rammed through so quickly.>>221188112I don't but I will shit on him at any opportunity because he's the AI slop of history and needs to go away forever.
>>221187988>Archaeologists know what they've doing.
>>221188158>they all told me not to take that shitThey were all conspiracy theory crackpots and knew nothing about Science.
>>221188158Unfortunately they're not the authority on this matter... And I only listen to authority.
>>221187658>have you looked really close at insides of a sick person to prove there isn't some really small creature making them sick?>no, but we know they health is dictated by the balance of the four hu->WELL THAT MEANS THERE'S ACTUALLY LITTLE ORGANISMS CALLED GERMS AND THAT'S WHAT MAKES PEOPLE SICK, I AM VERY SILLYArcheologists have no place being this confident in their interpretation of human history with how little they admittedly know and how thoroughly they have been btfo'd by discoveries like gobleki tepe which they declared was literally impossible
>>221188127probably the constant lying and canceling attempts
>>221188278Just a crumb of evidence. Please, I beg you. I'd even accept evidence that Hancock is actually looking for evidence and not just idly speculating and acting like a victim. Please just fund one dig, or one oceanic survey near a coast. Anything. Please.
>>221188158I don't like AI slop either but people bitching about it every day on 4chan have had no effect on actually reducing the amount of it.
>>221188380Sorry the best you're going to get is more DMT fueled rambling on how telekinesis is real on Rogan before he croaks
>>221188278>gobleki tepe human beings settling down and having basic rock structures 10,000 years ago opposed to 8,000 isn't really some massive revelations. Certainly doesnt proved there were highly advanced industrial sea faring superbeings 30,000 years ago
>>221188247The only authority in science is peer review.
>>221188466It also wasn't some world shattering thing he trumps it up as. It changed our timeline on early hunter gatherer anatolians somewhat but that's pretty much it. Would be a different thing maybe if it wasn't basically an isolated little area it occured. All it really showed is that this particular group of humans were living in an area of such abundance they had way more free time than their contemporaries.
>>221188202Truly a new dark age
>>221188202The untrustworthiness of academia is Hancock’s greatest asset.
>>221188539Don’t leave out the part where they clearly ruined it and made sure they’d never return to the area. There’s no reason to think there weren’t tons of similar failures to kick off civilization all over the planet
dibbler won
>>221188643>they clearly ruined it and made sure they’d never return to the area.Two easy explanations we see all the time, actually.1.) Ritual. Ritual destruction of sites/objects is well known and well documented throughout the world across a long time. Could have easily been just part of their religion that the place needed to be buried. Maybe a later generation found their skull cult distasteful and better buried.2.) Conflict. Group comes along and kills/enslaves the locals and destroys their places. In this case, by burying it. Might be the people from the group that the skulls were taken from getting their revenge. Might be that this group thought the place was 2spooky and buried it.We don't dispute failures to launch of civilization across the globe and across time. But that isn't proof of turbo advanced atlanteans who used telekinesis to move rocks.
>>221187072As a certified archaeologist, I must confess that this Hancock feller has some legitimate and interesting research.
>>221188070>And yes all academics function in big networks and are well known for snubbing/ruining the careers of people who go against the norm,you clearly never worked in an academic field.careers dont get "destroyed".what happens when a watershed discovery is on the horizon is that someone with longer tenure and more influence will snag it away from you and put their name on the paper.the heavy hitters in the field dont kick you out, they rob you blind.the fact that nobody stole anything from hancock, and that no university or country is throwing money at his "discoveries" is proof that its all horseshit.
>>221187072The cope and seethe this man causes is unbelievable, so unbelievable that I'm sure it's not organic, troons and redditors don't have that much free time to be seething about some guy living a life of adventure and magic, do they?
>>221188656>dibbler wonNo quibbles with Dibble's fibbles?
>>221188829No one is upset by him. He's just a retard that spouts bullshit.The only reason he even got his show was his son is a manager at Netflix responsible for "unscripted originals" the category his show falls in.
>>221188829For me it's because I now have the retards who fell for his grift shitting up every history thread that the /religion/ fucksticks don't find first.I have several real life friends who had fallen for the grift before they finally realized that the guy who used to grift about an ancient civilization on Mars and now grifts for psychic powers isn't probably someone who actually knows fuck all.
>>2211887563.) there stopped being plentiful food there and the survivors didn’t want to make the mistake of lingering there again
>>221188941Kinda falls under ritual. If they were outright starving, you probably wouldn't stick around to bury the place. In any case, it isn't somehow extraordinary that the site was buried in antiquity the way handcock postulates it as being.
Don't worry everyone, archaeology is mostly female now and in good hands. The British museum, in their efforts to decolonize everything and everyone, has promoted people like Dr Rebecca Redfern, famous for declaring that the London plague was rayciss, are leading the charge.
>>221188975Not really. Time and wind does most of the work for you. Pretty much every abandoned location that was once inhabited is buried because of natural movement of soil deposits over time.
>>221188975Where does this brand of mental retardation come from where prehistoric people are incapable of doing things for practical reasons? It always has to be either ritual or dick measuring, despite neither existing until after a stable food supply had existed for longer than anyone alive could remember a time without it.
>>221187072i have low iq conspiracy grifter fatigue
>>221189041Golbeki tepe was probably not buried by natural movement of soil deposits. There’s clear evidence of huge amounts of earth being manually shifted to bury it quickly.
>>221189079>write provably>eight words later autocorrect decides I meant probably
>>221188570dark, indeedhttps://www.bitchute.com/video/lF6wUVX25fxF
>>221189026Lol, the nose ring is accurate. Bandana should be a keffiyeh.
>>221189079Didn't say it was. I responded to a question about it being "extraordinary" for being buried. It isn't.
>>221189055Because of how it was buried with things still in place that normally wouldn't just be left. Valuable things. That's pretty on par with other ritual sites. If you were burying it just to never use it again, you probably wouldn't just leave said things.Not that it couldn't have been for some practical reason, but ritual most certainly played a part in the burial of the site.
>>221187072>How did this little old man make some people so mad?Because he's a Threat to Democracy© and his lack of proper deference to colonized Bipoc-2spirit-LGBTR2D2 indigenous bodies is problematic.
>>221187825How does one approach nonsensical bullshit unsupported by literally anything in good faith?
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>>221189232>Valuable thingsanon they’re fucking rocks and the inhabitants were going back to hunter gathering after they failed to maintain/establish a stable food supply
>>221187072Can't quibble with the dibble
>>221189255No clue why anyone is supposed to pander to DMT fueled rambling speculation without a shred of evidence. What would there possibly be to gain from doing so?
>>221189297>MELTWATER PULSE 1B
>>221189286>anon they’re fucking rocksYou do know that the site has yielded a lot more than the standing stones, right? Even something as simple as a small grinding stone would have taken a decent amount of time and effort to make for them, you wouldn't just leave those and small figurines and beads behind and bury them without ritual being involved.
>>221187520>What's retarded about making theories about things that have no other satisfactory explanation?the problem is that there is a satisfying explanation, except it's boring and doesn't sell books/tv shows.
>>221189415>except it's boringThis is the success of his grift. Modern humans find the vast majority of human history to be bland and uninteresting. Nevermind pre history where changes occurred even slower and even less took place. Partly because there just weren't that many of us.
>>221187072Imagine spending your entire life studying an extremely meticulous and boring branch of science called archaeology, a discipline with extremely stringent standards of evidence and marked by the careful weighing of possibilities to make educated guesses based on whatever artifacts are available.Then imagine some retard comes in making wild conjectures about random scraps of information and gets 10000x the fame and attention you ever will. A centerpiece of his platform is that all the painstaking work you and all your colleagues have done is fake and gay and a waste of time, and what you should have been doing the whole time was just looking for little zigzags on pottery (that other people did all the hard work to actually find) and making up bullshit about aliens.Meanwhile, this guy is making a ton of money and gets his own Netflix documentary because the general public doesn't give a fuck about scientific standards of evidence, they just care how cool a story sounds. You'd seethe too.>>221187520Sitting around going "Bro, wouldn't it be rad if aliens did all this shit?" is fun but it's not science. Fun sells way better.
>>221188514What does peer reviewed research have to say about the covid vaccines?
>>221189443It's this. The modern impatient, bored mind CANNOT STAND that thousands of years of human history is just hunting, farming, and stacking rocks. They NEED there to have been some fantastical cover-up bullshit to cope with their empty reality.
>>221189671Yeah. I'm a lithics nut so anything involving knapped tools is my shit, though. Most people find stone tools incredibly boring and don't think they evolved much, which couldn't be more wrong.
>>221189362>its not just rocks, but also rocks! they only kept what would be useful for hunter-gathering so it was a ritual!anon. magical thought didn't exist until after civilization created sufficient luxury for humans to engage in such things.
>>221189647No clue, they never allowed any peer reviewed studies. therefore it was bullshit.
>>221189586>Meanwhile, this guy is making a ton of money and gets his own Netflix documentary because the general public doesn't give a fuck about scientific standards of evidence, they just care how cool a story sounds. You'd seethe too.Almost all of the current slate of archaeologists seething about Hancock got their first taste of ancient history and what the field is about through the gateway of woowoo pyramidpower and aliens and atlantis. I can't believe how shortsighted these academics are. If you want your field to die with your generation and get replaced by god knows what in 30 years go right ahead but I somehow doubt that's their ultimate goal.
>>221189806>magical thought didn't exist until after civilization created sufficient luxury for humans to engage in such things.The oldest human figurines are from ~40k BC. Including the "lion man". We have cave paintings and petroglyphs of fantastical things. We have other carved objects with no practical purposes.You absolute fucking retard.
>>221189838>If you want your field to die with your generationThe field is already absurdly oversaturated for how little grant money there is for them to actually do anything. Most guys starting out do archaeology as basically a hobby while they work a menial job. If you're good and lucky you get into some university associated dig or get enough schooling to possibly teach it.Graham rails on archeologists for not doing -thing- without mentioning that nobody is going to pay for them to do -thing-. For a university, archaeology is like their badmitten team. It doesn't make any money and only exists in their halls because the money from football (medicine/engineering/math/etc) prop it up.
>>221187072he's inconsistent. sometimes he says the piri reis map is made up of over 10 different maps, sometimes he says over 50 maps, sometimes he says hundreds. he seems to choose a different number every time he mentions them. i think he should be treated more like an interested party and less like an actual expert on the subject
>>221189806This simply isn't true on any level. Even Neanderthals had abstract thought and creations.
>>221189994>like an interested partyHe is richer than probably any archaeologists alive today and yet hasn't even offered to fund a dig or anything. He's not interested beyond selling books to retards.
>>221189806Go hunt mammoth. Tired, lay down for sleep and stare at the night sky and the balls of light. Infinite magical thoughts playing through my mind.
>>221189891Anon that’s a bear
>>221190042>Go hunt mammoth. Wives do the work after. Fuck wives until red sun turns to white sun. Chase my seven children around the fire wearing the mammoth trunk as a mask. Tired, lay down for sleep and stare at the night sky and the balls of light. Infinite magical thoughts playing through my mind. Paint them on a cave wall.They lived better lives than we do, really.
>>221190095The head is a cave lion. Europe and the Americas had lions until fairly recently all things considered. In Europe they for sure existed in antiquity and probably had hold out populations into the middle ages.
>>221190103Yes, if anything the opposite of what he said is true. Magical thought was the normal mode until we created civilization, then we invented ennui.
THOUSANDS OF YEARS AGO, before the dawn of man as we knew him, there was Sir Santa of Claus, an ape-like creature making crude and pointless toys out of dinobones and his own waste, hurling them at chimp-like creatures with crinkled hands regardless of how they behaved the previous year.
>>221190021i kinda agree. he's a writer. he writes stories rather than facts. but, he got me interested in archeology, and i'd recommend him to anyone interested. so wat do. he's a good jumping-off point
>>221190154Anon. There are bear in Europe too.
>>221190160Try Dan Carlin's "Hardcore History". It's very entertaining and very normie friendly if you need that, as far as history can really be. Not in a woke way, but that Dan attempts to keep things entertaining. He's glacially slow at new episodes but they are hours long and well researched.
>>221190196IIRC it was found with cave lion teeth and there was another similar figurine in the cave or nearby. I believe the consensus was the cave lion had religious significance for the people there.Either way, lion or bear, does it actually matter? It's a furry figurine from ~40000bc.
>>221190249Anon the entomology of the word “bear” goes so far back into human history that it would’ve originally meant “large dangerous animal.”
>>221190196You can't prove that in a court of law
>>221190275satans little season?
The problem I've got with him is that he doesn't operate with any real sense of falsifiability.I think what he says is always worth investigating, but his claims are so vague and nebulous that even if he's wrong, there's no piece of evidence that could disprove them.
>>221190354He hasn't made a single claim that's any more worth investigating than the moon is made of cheese. Simply saying "what if" is utterly meaningless without SOMETHING ANYTHING, ANYTHING AT ALL to back it up
>>221190444You're somewhat wrong. You're forgetting his skitzoid numbers games where if you take the square root of the pyramid side in meters and multiply that by the holy symbol of 7 you get the lat/long of Stonehenge.There are a lot of videos showcasing how easy it is to make numbers align with pretty much whatever you want them to, so it's incredibly cringe worthy when he places any merit on them.
>>221190528That's not even true though, and if it was it still wouldn't matter
>>221190589Have you actually read his shit? Listened to his rants? He places an absurd amount of time and trust into his numbers shit. Just like every other crackpot grifter.
>>221190354It's not just that, it's also how grifters will silently move on to another brand new claim when one they have been championing becomes untenable. An example with Hancock is the whole ancient martian civilization claim he made in the late 90s, which he heavily based on shitty 1970s satellite images of the face on mars and pyramids of Cydonia. When we got much better resolution images showing these things to just be pareidolia he just stopped talking about it and hopes we all forget it. Exactly the same thing would happen if there came along anything to render some of his ancient apocalypse claims moot.
>>221190628Hence why nobody serious bothers with him. Spend time arguing with a retard and you'll realize you just wasted all that time for zero gain.
>>221187072Archaeologist discover megalithic sites that were made long before any other structures were known to be made and where primitive hunter-gathers were at the time. This is a potentially paradigm shifting discovery, and to accommodate this, archaeologists then propose that there is more to hunter-gathers that we know, and that they were more advanced than we assumed. Hancock's solution is to simultaneously claim that archaeologists think that hunter-gatherers are too stupid to build these sites, but that he also believes they couldn't make it themselves and that a more advanced civilisation had to help them build it.
>>221190758No archeologists claim Sumer was the first and only attempt by hunter gatherers to transition from hunter gathering. It was just the first success from which all other civilizations came. Finding a failed attempt to transition doesn’t change this.
i wish he still talked about lost civilizations and martians instead of just always whining about how victimized he is
>>221189891>rounded ears>lionnigger that’s a bear
>>221189806Correct. Every ancient ritual has roots in a completely practical/pragmatic purpose that ended up being forgotten due to the lack of need of the practical/pragmatic purpose.
>>221191209Magical thinking *is* a practical/pragmatic purpose.
>>221187072>my evidence is dropping acid taking ayahusca
>>221187520No, science works with evidence
>>221191199Anon have you ever seen a lion? Keep in mind that male European cave lions wouldn't really have manes like their African kin.
>>221191239No, it isn’t.
>>221191424>completely different muzzle>on two legsit’s a fucking bear
>>221187520A hypothesis isn’t a theory until there is some evidence. Hell, a supposition isn’t a hypothesis until there’s some evidence.
>>221188466>10,000 years ago opposed to 8,000 isn't really some massive revelations.It is to mainstream archaeologist. Hence why they’re tremendous faggots.
>>221187520this was a really good post
>>221188466>its not a big deal but if you say it then you'll get called a white supremacist and people around the world will seethe endlessly about you
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>>221191883finding a failed attempt to start civilization before Sumer doesn’t make Sumer not the origin of civilization
>>221187072Say what you will about Graham, he has such a pleasant and avuncular face. Like a favorite English teacher you never had.
>>221187554It is how science works. Seething and shutting down explorations of alternative models as "misinformation" is not how science works.
But what about Gobekli Pepe?
>>221192014Yeah propa full English 'e isMarried to Ngubuette as well
>>221192236It’s the ugly wife thing from curb. I trust him deeply because he has an ugly wife.
>>221192264Hope the theater gave you an award for being their best projectionist
>>221192279>implying I have an ugly wife whom I loveThanks, I guess
The same liberal pseudo intellectual faggot has been seething about Hancock since his Netflix show came out lmao
>>221192366>The same liberal pseudo intellectual faggotDon't call me that
>>221187072Everyone that hates Graham Hancock is fully vaxxed. Prove me wrong.
Why do modern lazy retards think ancient people were like them?
>>221189805>Most people find stone tools incredibly boringThis guy doesn't.https://youtu.be/1zsSH9UUQtQ?si=jrsFmXYzePCGpt8k
>>221190214>Dan Carlinwoke
>>221187520based
>>221187072jews got big mad about him talking about an ancient global network of blue eyed seafarers and accused him of being a white supremacist, im not even joking.
>>221187520>Isn't that how science works?No, you fucking moron
>>221192905explain to me why its woke in a star wars analogy
>>221192182making up retarded bullshit based on 0 evidence so you can shill your shitty books isnt "exploration of alternative models"
>>221187276>acts like a retard by saying retarded shit without evidence>people call him out for being retarded>"look i'm just asking questions :D"
>>221187072I suspected but had no actual framework for my belief that Big Academia is wrong and that blond haired supermen had an advanced globe-spanning civilization on Earth in the distant past. They also, very clearly, mastered ESP and telekinesis and probably had video games and entertainment featuring futanari elves with balls. There are no male elves, they are all futanari and they are ashamed of their sex drives and procreation habits and they blush a lot and try to conceal their large penises with foreskin and balls as well. This was all kept from us but the collective genetic memory of humans can't keep it repressed forever and I'm glad it's all coming out now and that someone understands.
>>221187825Yeah the nonsense accusations specifically makes it feel like they're desperate to shut up the guy.As if I'd suddenly want to genocide the Egyptians if I found out aliens made the pyramids or whatever
>>221187072oh fuck, i know him. he's been on rogan a few times like 10 years ago when i still watched him and he was whining about being discredited and challenged on misinfo every fucking time he was on lmao
>>221188466How do you know? Were you there?
>>221194512I'm there right now.
>>221192012>finding a failed attempt to start civilization before SumerGiven the scope of even just the small amount that has been uncovered so far, gobekli tepe represents civilization millennia earlier than the academic consensus allows. Otherwise it requires a total redefinition of what "hunter gatherers" constitute to the point that the distinction between tribal hunter gatherers and a civilization proper becomes all but meaningless. In either case its discovery creates a massive headache for anyone clinging onto the existing model, hence why it gets brought up. I don't understand why people are so deliberately obtuse on this point.
>>221187072Why, exposed the true grifters, of course (the academics)
>>221195178I like how you pretend that somehow the "academia" is not aware of or not "uncovering" this super secret hidden site nobody knows about (except everyone).The site has been heavily researched, catalogued and covered by "academia" since it was found.The entire region is littered with similar sites btw, none of them are "secret" or "off the books" as your types always imply.It fits comfortably in the framework of what is known about that part of history, that region and the culture that existed there.
>>221195241>I like how you pretend that somehow the "academia" is not aware of or not "uncovering" this super secret hidden siteWhere did I ever imply that? I'm talking specifically to the person who made the claim that gobekli tepe does not constitute evidence in any way of civilization, and that if it did it still wouldn't have had any implications on the greater model or academic consensus at the time of discovery.You seem to have a lot of baggage you're bringing into this. It doesn't seem to be serving you very well.
Friendly reminder Flint "Nazi Puncher" Dibble raped Graham Hancock in the sweltering hot JRE podcast studio of 24
>>221195294Your dipshit insincere kind always implies that every time you bring it up, as if all this crap is not fully researched and discussed and continues to be. Yet you pretend you're fighting the system by stating obvious shit.You're a pseud through and through.
>>221195320>fighting the systemWhat system? Again I'm addressing that anon (maybe you?) who explicitly characterized gobekli tepe as conclusively a failed attempt at civilization. I'd hope no academic would make such a sweeping and final generalization so I do have a bone to pick with layman science fans who stick their feet in their mouths by saying so.>You're a pseud through and through.I could say the same to you at this point and wouldn't be surprised if onlookers came to the same conclusion. Again I don't know who you think I am or what you think I said, but you seem to be fighting someone who isn't present.
Threat to Democracy
>>221194172Yes it is.
>>221194203Ok pajeet
