it was under my muddas name
These guys were caught almost immediately for this very reason. The cops traced it to two likely teams very quickly and put them on surveilance before narrowing it down to their crew. However, they could never bring charges against them and in fact Jimmy the Gent never went to prison for the various murders or the robbery. The case put immense focus on Buerke, and is likely why he was taken down though. You can't just steal 29 million dollars and get away with it, even if you whack everyone who could connect you to the robbery.
>>221193303It was mostly because the dumb nig Stacks didn't dispose of the car as he was told
>>221193138>Jew is the one who got the entire operation rolling to begin with>they never pay him>instead he gets whiny which spooks them so they murder himThat was almost suicide. Burke went serial killer to keep the case under wraps and keep himself out of jail.
>>221193138They do a lot of time compression in the film. In the film, there are the childhood scenes, then they jump to when they're middle aged men and it feels like the events happen in only a few years. In reality, the entire film's timeline with the adults is like 20 fucking years. Air France was 1967, and Lufthansa heist was 1979, 12 years and that's not even everything with the adult characters. In the script, these guys are supposed to be like 28 in the early scenes, and then 40 later on. That could have meant casting 3 separate actors, instead of two, which might make things confusing and complicated. So instead, they just had middle aged men.It's why Billy Batts treats Tommy DeSimone like a kid and implies that before his 6 year prison stay, Tommy was shining shoes. That would mean Tommy was like 19 or something outrageous like that (unless he was shining shoes at like 30). In reality, Tommy was killed at 28, in 1979. Billy Batts was killed in 1970 but the film makes it look like the two events weren't far apart, maybe a year at most. Goodfellas is a good film, and not a bad introduction to the basic events, but the time compression is the biggest issue compared to the real events.
>>221193303It's crazy how in both Casino and Goodfellas the characters were all worse IRL, Tommy and Paulie were fucking Karen while Henry was in jail and Ace and Ginger were actually FBI informants the whole time
>>221193342You'd think we'd have found some of these mob burials by now considering how much land has been developed since their daysMaybe the remains are so decomposed that no one would notice them if they did
>>221193399If Scorsese took so many liberties with the actors hardly looking any older it makes you wonder why the fuck he ruined The Irishman with that dogshit CGI de-aging
>>221193735Directors are getting caught up in stupid technology fads, and they won't admit it but they feel immense insecurity from the pressures of internet media and block buster cape shit. They are using this new fancy tech to stand out and feel relevant. Instead it's shit and making things worse.
>>221193138>it was under my muddas nameit was foolproof
>>221193463>Ace and Ginger were actually FBI informantssource?
>>221193994https://mafiahistory.us/rattrap/infachilles.htmlThat's what these dumb fucking Italians get for trusting a wealthy Jew
He insulted his mother's car a little bit
>>221194288I fucked him in the ass. Fuckin break up my party
>>221193138>hello muddah>hello faddah>here I am at…>Camp Granada..
>>221194369Admit itYou laughed, cried, howled, panted for breath, pissed, vomited, and shit yourself when you heard this
>>221193138I’m sorry Jimmy. I’m sorry. I’m sorry. Sorry Jimmy. I’m sorry. Sorry Jimmy. I’m sorry Jimmy
>>221194483Not really. I never understood what the hell he was saying as a kid so I thought he was just an idiot spouting nonsense. I did laugh at it as the gag in Simpsons however.
Okay I wanted to make a thread about this but I’ve seen Goodfellas like 10 times and on my most recent watch I noticed for the very first time Billy Batts saying “I fucked kids like that in the can. I fucked him in the ass” after he insults Tommy. I always thought he was just mumbling but he actually says this
>>221193463>Tommy and Paulie were fucking KarenRight now I feel like a Sorcese movie is only as enjoyable as it is because it always has a good moral anchor character somewhere in the movie. If this anchor didn't exist, the movie would just be too dark. In Goodfellas that person was weirdly Paulie - he was portrayed as only wanting honesty from Henry. In Casino it was Ace himself. Irishman was Peggy. The bad people in these movies don't get happy endings.>>221193520Nobody gets buried on empty land. They get chopped up and frozen and buried before a foundation is poured or before a road is paved. Nobody is digging up house foundations or roads. It will be decades or a century before that concrete is unearthed. So much (road) construction is owned by organized crime at least where I live.
>>221193735>with that dogshit CGI de-agingBecause he wanted to use De Niro. De Niro is old and he looks ancient. It's cheaper to use CG than hire another guy.I didn't have a problem with the de-aging CG in the movie - it was bad but acceptable in some part because 25 year olds back then smoked so much they looked like they were 50. The only problem I had was beating up the grocer was horrible because De Niro is so fucking old he can't move anymore.
>>221193735He seemed to honestly believe it was gonna be much better than it was. I actually enjoyed the Irishman quite a bit upon second viewing years later but the de-aging stuff really did hurt its perception big time.
>>221195275It’s not so much that the de-aging ruins the movie but more that it’s emblematic of what’s wrong with the movie. It’s stubborn, it’s too dull and feels lifeless. That works for the final 30 mins but not for the previous 3 hours which are supposed to be full of youth and energy like Goodfellas and Casino. Clearly Scorsese felt guilty about Wolf of Wall Street glorifying crime so much, so he deliberately made The Irishman boring and deromanticized
>>221193138Whaddya say?!
>>221195877I’m sorry Jimmy
>>221195778I don't disagree with anything you've said, it does feel dull and lifeless and you're right it feels like Scorsese feels like he regrets glorifying these people. But I think that's what makes the movie good because it's so sad compared to Casino and Goodfellas already having done the cowboy fast living of the mafia.Throughout the movie nobody in the mafia outright says what they mean. Everyone knows what they mean to each other but they don't say it. The fact Peggy only has one line in the movie symbolizes that she is on the outside and her father is some kind of alien thing to her - it's why she likes Jimmy because Jimmy talks straight in a way that he is also on the outside. I don't like Pacino, I can't say I like his acting, but he does a good job of portraying someone who is loud, stupid, and stubborn. Jimmy is loud like Nicky or Tommy but he isn't the bad guy here, he's just someone who obviously exists outside the mafia.I agree the Irishman would suck as a movie as a standalone movie, but because it exists along Casino and Goodfellas it's actually pretty good because unlike the other movies this movie shows that it's always dangerous and there is great force behind the few little things that Russell says. Nothing Frank does feels like a win even when he gets a win. Every moment of Frank's life is sad and so much is shown but not said when Russell explains why Frank has to go on the hit. When Frank doesn't break omerta to the FBI agents it feels sad because it isn't a win for him - because literally nobody benefits.Frank having no family, friends, or comfort from the priest is the part of life in the mafia that Scorsese never did because the other movies ended at the moment of collapse. There was no joy for Frank when Russell said "I did this for us": they were in prison, drinking grape juice. It was watching Henry actually eat the egg noodles with ketchup for a whole 30 minutes and it was necessary to endure how boring that was.
