>Goes to prison for killing gang members who show up to his house with guns targeting him over a basketball gameIs it any surprise why he was racist?
>>221200291Yes, most people don't blame an entire race for the actions of a few people.
yeah the movie had a messaging problem. it's supposed to come off as "don't be heckin racist" but it justifies the actions of the white characters at literally EVERY turn. even the end of the movie. what's the ACTUAL TAKEAWAY? >should have stayed racist. he would have stayed alive.
>>221200312unless its some whitey who was mean to your ancestors many generations ago
>>221200312>you have to let yourself get bit by every snake on earth before you're allowed to say you don't like snakes.lol, lmao even.
>>221200291he was racist because his firefighter father burned to death when nigs cut his firehose whilst in a burning building. its a sad fact that this has actually happened more than once to the point that now firefighters have to use slash resistance hoses that are a lot heavier to carry around
>>221200350in the hood they'll literally just shoot at fire trucks. then they complain that first responders won't come save them when they start their apartment complex on fire. i hate them so much it's unreal.
>>221200317the message is racism is justified and rational but neo-Nazis are just pale niggers
>>221200291he executed the nigger in a cruel unnecesary way,a bullet in the head from far away wouldnt so punishable
>>221200370can't fight fecaloids by taking the high road. don't care what anyone says. you've gotta go to their level of senseless violence if you wanna get rid of them for good.
Nobody in this thread watches the news. Nobody has ever been in prison for defending their home.This is just bad writing.
>>221200350i was a junior volunteer firefighter in a white country, all hoses are heavy and reinforced with a metal mesh inside and impossible to just slashthey have to stand up to a ton of pressure without bursting even when they bend or chafe against some shit
>>221200291His dad was literally shot by blacks while trying to put out the fire in their drug den. This dude has every right to be racist and the movie cowardly fails to address any reasonable point he ever makes throughout by making him do something abhorrent immediately after so the audience can safely dismiss it.
>>221200423that doesn't negate all the instances of blacks slashing fire hoses. it's happened multiple times. stop making excuses for them.
>>221200291>targeting him over a basketball gameI thought that was a coincidence
>>221200317That is because you are assuming the movie was trying to moralize about racism when in reality it is about the cyclical nature of violence - no matter how superior he believed himself to be, at the end of the day he and his family found themselves trapped in constant petty violence with subhumans. Fundamentally he was not wrong or unjustified about any of his beliefs (and 99.9% of movies wouldn't have been brave enough to go there) he was wrong to let it consume and dictate the path of his life.
>>221200421>Nobody has ever been in prison for defending their home.He curb-stomped someone, and he lives in California
>>221200291You don't get it, 1 out of 100 niggers might be a decent person so you shouldn't be racist.
>>221200566i've lived among them in big cities. the number is actually much lower. maybe 1 out of 1000 is what i would consider "decent". not even a "GOOD" person. just DECENT.
>>221200312yah only brown people get to do that
>>221200367They complain about "food deserts" and only having heavily locked budget stores when they continually steal, damage, and loiter grocery stores.
Why didnt his family just move to a suburban middle class area
>>221200718because poor
*cracks neck*Is this the thread?
>>221200312actually, most people DO do that. even so called "anti racist" whites do it.
>>221200718cause blacks follow us EVERYWHERE. 10 years ago, they couldn't point to idaho on a map. now they're everywhere here.
>>221200421>Nobody has ever been in prison for defending their home.Amazing bait. Literally every blue state punishes the person defending themselves. And this is not even speaking of EU and Britain
>>221200421look up "duty to flee" states. a criminal could break into your house with a weapon, and you are legally REQUIRED to run away and let him take whatever he wants.
>>221200919truly fucking unbelievable how deeply leftism penetrated the civilized world. Literally only a couple of states in US are the ONLY PLACES ON THE FUCKING PLANET that are both civilized and not totally raped by this cuckery
>>221200421>Nobody has ever been in prison for defending their home.
>>221200562>>221200831>>221200919
>>221200291You’re not allowed to use deadly force against another person just for theft
>>221200919Duty to Flee doesn't count in your own home. Only out in public.>inb4 uhhh yeah but still
>>221201011huh I thought Ca is just as cucked as NY
>>221201037>Duty to Flee doesn't count in your own homeyes it does, dumbass. there are plenty of instances of homeowners going to prison for shooting people that broke into their house in the middle of the night
>>221201011>duty to retreat
>>221201037my only response is lol
>>221201121Link 5 of these cases
>>221201011
>>221200312>I don’t understand statistics
>>221200312This is the mindset that'll get you killed by a random nog
>>221200312>t. calls all cops "racist" for shooting violent felons (doesn't care when white people get shot though)
>>221200291>Is it any surprise why he was racist?No? That was the point.
>>221200291if Derek just shot them, he probably wouldn't have been arrested, ridiculous conviction, why is curb stomping a thug nigger illegal but shooting them legal? makes no sense
>>221201011Yet another leftist pretending to not understand the argument in order to throw shit at the wall and see what sticks
>>221200312a few, rabbi dipshitowitz? a large percentage at the very least
>>221201315This. Media illiterate redditors missed the point of the film HARD.>blacks are violent stupid chimps as a rule, and even if one is "good" it doesn't disprove the rule>"DURRRR DIS ABOUT HOW WAYCISM IZ BAAAAD"
>>221200312in England, there was a piece of journalism that revealed that the majority of P*kistani's who raped British girls would ring up to 8 or maybe even 16 people they knew and invited them to participate in the rape, which was common.
>>221200312>hurr durr you shouldn't generalize an entire group of peopleWhat good would that mindset do you when some random black guy kills you?
>>221200919>>221200991>>221201121hypothetically, what would happen if a bunch of victims of this "duty to flee" law robbed a bunch of the judges enforcing this law? in minecraft.
>>221201015the thugs had guns, self defense
>>221201446The judge backpedals 10 yards and then mag dumps you. Gets off scot-free.
>>221201254nigger?
>>221200291As usual, the message meant to prove white people wrong does the exact opposite.
>>221201481Nah, nah, nah...I'm talking about a scenario involving superior numbers. In Minecraft. That's why I specified "a bunch of victims", hypothetically.If we're abstractly discussing safety, do you really think liberal judges are not only packing, but adequately train and can perform under pressure?
>>221200291Deliberately curb stomping someone is not self-defence
>>221201573What do you think their army of blue-line zogbots are for?
>>221201591Are these conservative-leaning blue-line zogbots in the homes of liberal judges around the clock?
>>221200291>Obviously the straight white guy is the real victim herenever change 4chan.
>Has anything you've done made your life better?Movie spells out the message for you.
>>221201692They post up outside their houses whenever people even start to think about doing what you suggest. I know 2020 was 6 years ago but don't be ignorant.
>>221201750Does constantly chimping out and calling for the death of white people help race relations?
>>221201322Depends on state laws. If he shot them in NY he would still absolutely be facing significant prison time and possibly murder charges.
>>221201721him and his little(mexican) brother were the victims of the movie, not the curb nig trying to attack his home in the middle of the night>>221201574disagree
>>221201573elitist liberals pay poor peasant people to use the guns for them
>>221201751>>221201846So, employees in the lower 6-figure salaries have constant armed guards and armored vehicular escorts that, without deviation, transport them between home and the courthouse?My interest is waning in this hypothetical discussion since you'll invent endless ridiculous "what abouts" to avoid thinking practically about an engaging (albeit uncomfortable) security issue.
>>221201999You should try it instead of talking about it and see how well it goes.
>>221202072Just lively intellectual debate, anon.
>>221202196It was your assertion from the start. It's so easy, so why don't you do it? Come on Che Guevara, go out and slot some government officials. If successful I'll even donate to your gofundme.
>>221202210
>>221200691This very much
>>221200312Pattern recognition
>>221200423They used to literally just be rubber hoses with a denim or duck cloth outer sheath.
>>221200820Shouldn't have abandoned the teachings of Joseph Smith
>>221202910Mormons are based, but Joseph Smith is objectively a grifter
>>221203302Yes, but he taught not to trust darkies
>>221203334That's just pattern recognition and in-group preference. You don't need fanfiction about owning your own planet to figure that out.
>>221202910>>221203302>>221203334>>221203625mormon and liberal "christian" churches are literally responsible for them being in idaho, Minnesota, maine, wyoming, etc, etc. they ship them in. there wouldn't be "learing centers" if it weren't for bleeding heart blasphemous liberal churches.
>>221200291It's still funny to me how the final message of the movie was essentially to never relax around blacks.
>>221201015120 years ago, they'd hang you for stealing a man's horse. we need to go back.
>>221201226>https://www.nbclosangeles.com/news/local/2-burglars-shot-by-homeowner-when-breaking-into-valley-village-home-sentenced-to-prison/3832185/>https://www.ktvu.com/news/oakland-homeowner-arrested-after-fatally-shooting-robbery-suspect>https://www.the-independent.com/bulletin/news/homeowner-charged-murder-burglar-armed-texas-b2899806.html>https://www.wsaz.com/2024/12/28/homeowner-shoots-kills-intruder-if-you-break-into-someones-home-you-should-expect-be-shot/>https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/oakland-police-confirm-homeowner-arrested-after-fatally-shooting-burglary-suspect/>https://trailstoneinsurance.com/blog/marine-defends-home-sued/>https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2024/jun/12/elderly-oakland-homeowner-arrested-after-shooting-/want me to keep going, faggot?
>>221204187Bummer.>>221204346>>221201226lol, BTFO
>>221200312You wouldn't enter a lion's den just to meet one friendly lion knowing all the other lions will kill you on sight
>>221200312But the worst of them are just THAT bad, and I'm not going to go out of my way to look for all the exceptions
>>221200350In the movie the nigs shoot his firefighter father
>>221200291>racistNigga, he was a murderer.
>>221200291You can't shoot home intruders once they run outside. You can only kill them when they're inside your home. It was the same in the movie Felon.Even the red af states are like that. A father and son in my home state of Arizona got arrested for murder awhile back for killing a guy who was stealing their catalytic converter in their driveway.
>>221205802sounds like that people would be encouraged to drag the thief inside
>>221204346>https://www.wsaz.com/2024/12/28/homeowner-shoots-kills-intruder-if-you-break-into-someones-home-you-should-expect-be-shot/The guy who was arrested was literally one of the robbers you fucking moron. There were TWO robbers, one died. The survivor was arrested.>https://www.the-independent.com/bulletin/news/homeowner-charged-murder-burglar-armed-texas-b2899806.htmlThat's in fucking TEXAS which has Stand Your Ground. He was STILL charged, meaning they probably don't believe the victim actually invaded his home. It's entirely possible he invited the victim in, shot him for no or insufficient reason, and then tried to claim self-defense.>https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/oakland-police-confirm-homeowner-arrested-after-fatally-shooting-burglary-suspect/California also has Stand Your Ground. He also hasn't been charged with anything, according to the article. He was only arrested because he refused to give a statement. What the fuck are the cops supposed to do if you won't even say it was self-defense?>https://trailstoneinsurance.com/blog/marine-defends-home-sued/Irrelevant. Being sued is not the same as being tried in criminal court. The standards for conviction are much lower. One can break no laws and still be sued and lose. Liability is not the same thing is illegality. You can be sued for any reason, or frivolously for no reason whatsoever. Also, >"Thankfully, the lawsuit was quickly thrown out. Cutrufelli was sentenced to 86 years in prison for attempted murder, burglary, and firearm charges."I'm not even gonna look at the rest of the links from California. They don't support your argument because California has no duty to retreat.
>>221205919>>>https://www.cbsnews.com/sanfrancisco/news/oakland-police-confirm-homeowner-arrested-after-fatally-shooting-burglary-suspect/>California also has Stand Your Ground.>I'm not even gonna look at the rest of the links from California.
>>221205865>replace murder with kidnapping+murderGenius
>>221200350>>221200367>>221200423Why the fuck do blacks hate firefighters?America's premiere black intellectual even wrote about how he sorta enjoyed watching 9/11 unfold from his apartment building's rooftop because he contemplated how many white police officers and firefighters were dying in it
>>221200291He lived in LibtardLand California where you can catch a case for defending yourself with a legally owned firearm even if you successfully claim self defense.>>221200312Kek @ all the seethe under this post
>>221200317That's why it's a based film. It doesn't spoon-feed you a message. It just drops you back into the cycle of violence. It truly leaves every moral question up to the viewer. Derek only made it through prison because his black cellmate spoke for him, but then his brother gets shot just a few scenes later. Everyone also seems to forget that the black kid wouldn't have made it far from the school without getting arrested and likely threw his youth away in prison for the next 30 years to life.
>>221200317The message is that the cycle of violence won't be broken by one dude giving up on hating people. You need systemic change and can't just hope for random people to stop being racist and for that to fix the world.
>>221200291He killed him on the sidewalk instead of dragging him back onto his property and killing him there.
>>221205328>>221204346Why didn't you just look at a map to see if the stories you linked were actually from States with a Duty to Retreat law? Why would you post a link to a story in Texas in this discussion? Are you retarded?
>>221206604holy midwit!The point is, if you're going to get charged with murder anyway, the kidnapping isn't a huge factor. But if you get away with it, it's worth a shot. you claim the thief was inside your house and you acted in self-defense.>HURRR but they'll KNOWYou think some underpaid and overworked beat cop showing up to some youth getting his head blown off in an attack on a White home is going to play Sherlock, if you have above 105 IQ and can set the scene?
>>221207300I'm not that anon who posted the links. I just like dogpiling on morons (You).
>>221200312>>221206674BTFOd faggot didnt respond to a single reply either lmao
>>221200291Oh, man. If some guy had a nazi tattoo and everybody knew about it, I bet he'd never have any chance of getting elected into any sort of public office!
>>221207326He's probably doing real life shit instead of engaging in pointless arguments on a Macanese gambling forum like us losers.>>221207347Shut the fuck up.
>>221207408Whatever for? I'm just saying that if some guy had a nazi tattoo, it would probably make it difficult for him to run for public office. But then anything's possible, I suppose.
>>221207408is your peepee angry?
>>221206659>Why the fuck do blacks hate firefighters?because of systemic racism and slavery, you fucking bigot.
>>221200312>a few
>>221200312Absolute midwit
>>221208159limp and impotent, desu senpai
>>221200291hating niggers doesn't make you racist.
>>221207501just stop
>>221209533Ah, so whether you're the same anon or someone else, the tone has become less defiant, almost resigned! Still, my central point stands, that if some guy had a nazi tattoo and decided to run for office, the simple fact of having a nazi tattoo would probably be a liability for the guy's political campaign. You don't disagree with the concept as stated, I'm sure, but I suppose that a brusque reply along the lines of "Be quiet." or similar is what you'd like to write at this point.
>>221200312I'm mad, I'm replyingwell baited mate
>>221200312Truthnuke
>>221200312what about when 99% of an entire race is a problem? what then? am i supposed to tolerate destruction and chaos just to avoid hurting the 1%'s feelings? honest question. give me a yes or no answer.
>>221201344oh i know you aint talkin to me
