Is Transformers just a ripoff of Gundam?
Probably, yeah
>>221206132Not at all. Gundams dont generally "transform". They're both mecha and thats the extent of their similarities
>>221206379The Transformers cartoon was made to advertise for a mishmash of various transforming Japanese toys.
>>221206132they're all just ripoffs of Rock-em Sock-em Robots
>>221206132Not really. Gundam is usually a 'humans will inevitably find conflict' type of narrative. It's something that fits into the war never changes brand of storytelling. Transformers typically relishes high ideals of justice and fighting the good fight.
bro shut your gay ass up nobody has ever liked anything you've said in your life
>>221206132I think Transformers usually gets compared to ABC Warriors because they both had semi-successful comics about talking robots in the UK in the 80s
Gundam is a toy commercial where none of the executives gave 2 shits about that the staff was making, so they just made this extremely out there show inspired by everything from the 60s and 70s about war and conspiracy theories.Transformers is a toy commercial where the designs and toys were made in Japan and Americans wrote the story.
>>221206132As much as Star Wars is a ripoff of Star Trek.
It's like Gundam in that it all boils down to selling toys. But it's a little different. Transforming mechs are essentially invented by Macross. At least how you understand them in animation. The series has a F14 that can transform into a humanoid robot to fight giant space aliens, and its mechanical designer built his own real life prototype models to prove it could be manufactured to potential sponsors. Its transforming toy becomes a legend in its own time. This is all fairly normal in anime by this point where real life toy tooling would be a design consideration. Meanwhile a company named Takara is inventing transforming toys from first principles coincidentally as Macross is about to make them popular in Japan. It's this company that Hasbro has contacts with. Transformer's key innovation on that is:>what if we had the robots transform into toys we already have the tooling to makeThey took Takara's tooling, the real life toys, and worked backwards to write the Transformers characters/story to their preexisting manufacturing capability. After that it's just branding.
>>221207004interesting
>>221206829So not at all?
>>221206132If you want a serious answer, Transformers is genuinely, actually a ripoff of Gold Lightan, because that's the toyline that a Hasbro executive saw in Japan in the late 70s and decided to replicate in the USA (and then combined Diaclone and Microman to do so). There were other mecha series before Lightan, of course, but the central concept of a giant robot that was a real-world object and then transformed into a humanoid fighting machine and back again began here. Lightan was based on a toy Zippo lighter that you could fold out into a robot. At the time it was seen as something akin to a magic trick, and it got an anime made because the creators of it knew the original Gundam series was big with the kids. The show is your standard golden age monster-of-the-week kodomomuke anime.
>>221207004What I find interesting about it is that the original toylines that got combined into Transformers, Microman and Diaclone, had a basic premise but no story and not a lot of lore behind them, and Hasbro felt Western audiences wouldn't want to play with toys that don't have defined characters and a story behind them, so they created the idea of the Transformers to bring all the toylines under a single line and give them some meaning. That's one explanation, of course. Another is that if you just have a bunch of toys kids would just buy the ones they liked but would have no incentive to buy the whole line, but if there's a story behind them kids would want to get the entire cast, so they learned from Takara's mistakes and made a cartoon.
>>221207004I always found it funny that Jetfire *is* the Macross jet.
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>>221207611That was the implication. You are very smart.
No. And Gundam is shit.
>>221208091They must have figured that story matters from the Star Wars toy craze or some other toyline
I wish there were boards to discuss cartoons and mecha.
To think all the makings of an American Macross Gundam hybrid was there but never happened. The Ark crashes on Earth just like the SDF1. Humans repair and work with the Cybertronians, G.I Joe with the Autobots, Cobra with the Decipticons.
>>221206132Transformers are a ripoff of Gobots
>>221207710Gold Lightan is a rip off of Go Nagai's well renowned real robot anime Groizer X.
>>221208545Ya better check your privilege, Prime!
>>221206132> Gundam = Piloted mechs.> Transformers = Sentient transforming robots.OP is being Illogical.
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>>221208782Don't call gundam shit mechs.
I would let Casval Rem Deikun fuck me raw.
>>221206132If the transformers come from a planet far away that has nothing to do with Earth why do they transform into Earth cars
