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bruh this movie is so cringe are there really people like this?
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mexicans are bros,hang out with them and eat some chimichungas
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>>221206306
Yeah he's me.
>>221206336
Can confirm. I'm a fat Mexican.
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the future of the white man is atheism
only browns and old boomers are christians nowadays
white zoomer christianity is half-hearted "well i PERSONALLY dont believe in that nonsense but it's good to have the sheep follow it"
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>>221206306
Yeah American Protestants are basically the main reason Christianity is dying globally. Between the lesbian pastors, the blatant fraudster black preachers, and the Israel worshipping evangelicals fedora tippers have a huge dossier of pathetic freaks to reference when describing Christianity
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>>221206306
You're still assblasted about this over a decade later? How fragile is your lack of belief?
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>>221206387
Yeah the thing that will save white culture is the thing that's been subverting and destroying it for centuries. Retard.
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>>221206438
lol you believe in all that crap to save white culture? if that is the future of the white race it is fucking doomed
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>>221206438
no one was talking about jews anon
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>>221206438
whites would be colonizing the milky way if not for the imported slave religion holding us back for millennia
the Renaissance and the works of Nietzsche allow us to live post-religion and to do away with the crutch of Christianity - it had a crude purpose once, but it is now obsolete. We are free
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>>221206479
>>221206460
Good goyim.
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the recent downie debate nuked Kikechristianity out of orbit
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>>221206438
the christian faith only has itself to blame for its downfall incel. especially the catholic church. they failed to modernize with the times and are collapsing at an insane rate. not to mention its double digit IQ believers.
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>>221206513
nigga you worship a rabbi called Jewshua lmao
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>>221206306
It's super funny how many times the "God is dead" quote is misquoted and misinterpreted. It can nothing to do with literally saying god doesn't exist. It's that man in his own hubris has reached a level of development where he might as well supplanted god and it's a bad thing.
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>>221206713
nietzsche wasn't even an atheist ffs. but he did see the direction christianity was going and was largely right in that retard
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benevolent cultural christianity is fine, it's a legal syndicate my dude, you're going to be ruled by mormons or jews so you might as well get some social support out of it
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>>221206438
Whites only advanced be ause of the enlightenment and proto-atheist ideals. Before that they were living in mid, dying for some local lord, and PRAISING HEY ZEUS.

go be a mexshitcan somewhere else, amigo.
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>>221206713
you are misinterpreting as well
"God is dead" is about "God" no longer being the answer for the source of morality, i.e.
>why is being good good? because god
>why is murder bad? because god
once we accept that god is not real (at least the "gods" defined by modern religion), how do we answer those questions?
the simple answer is because we say so, but a lot of people are unable to deal with this - im an atheist and am more moral than the average christian. all morals are made up, and always have been, its just that the religious pretend to have an objective truth when it was always false
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>>221206410
You Catholics are totally neutered as well. Look at your Vatican 2. Don't try to cuck jacket Prots. You guys are in no position.
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>>221206771
I didn't say he was wrong in regards to the full quote.
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>>221206306
Jesus is my homeboy I have that shirt
Pray to gods son with my knees in the dirt
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>>221206410
Most Protestants actually genuinely believe what they claim and aren’t just larping because everyone else around them is doing it
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It's been 12 years and atheists still have no response to this kino
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>>221207418
it's been 2500 years and christians still have no response to epicurus
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>>221206306
I look similar to this, and say things to this effect.
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>>221206306
just took a marner that modern plumbing isn't prepared for
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>>221206479
Nietzsche didn't have an answer for meaning in a post-God world, only that we should strive to find one. He also respected that he and his civilization were ultimately the product of Christian values, so your edgy derision still reeks of resentment, meaning you haven't divested yourself from it as much as you think.
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>>221206410
no the cuck religion is just getting replaced with a more literal and lower effort cuck religion ie globohomo
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>>221208901
secular humanism is downstream of christianity as a way of applying christian values without the transcendental, so it coalesces around the only thing that's left to worship which is temporal suffering
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>>221207462
low quality strawman bait but I'll bite
>God provides us with free will, free will leaves us free to choose to do evil.
>If God intervened what would be the point to us doing anything? We would no longer need to choose to do good - God wants us to be good be choice.
>God wants us to believe in him (faith), intervening in this kind of way would mean no faith required, thus not shaping our lives to live in such a way that one day we might be capable of being in his presence.
In summary.. Epicurus is a retard
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>>221207462
>christians still have no response to epicurus
Plenty of good responses. You are just too much of a neophyte to research them.
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>>221208997
>>God provides us with free will, free will leaves us free to choose to do evil.
why did god give us this capability? is he secretly sadistic? does he get pleasure watching his creations torture each other? also, what does a 3 year old getting bone marrow cancer have to do with evil?

>>221209109
i accept your concession
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>>221206438
jews?
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>>221206438
whites(and all cultures really) benefit from shedding the Abrahamic religions. a return to local pagan beliefs mixed with logical practice of science should be the new way forward for everyone
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>>221208829
the answer is personal and there is no general answer - that’s why it’s not a religion
“Christian values” is hubris - jesus did not invent any morals, they have existed with us for a very long time
Western civilization predates Christianity by a while, it’s existed without it and will again
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>>221209164
Why do you think that bone marrow cancer is "evil"?
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>>221209351
>Why do you think that bone marrow cancer is "evil"?
i don't? i'm asking you: why does it exist? why did god create it?
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>>221209287
I agree that not everything about our character has wholly arisen from Christian theology and morals, and that much of what we value today existed in the ancient world and prior, but it's likewise an overcorrection to pretend that nearly 2000 years of cultural, intellectual, and social development done under the overarching influence of Christianity can be totally separated from it. It's a part of ourselves and our history, mocking it to spite others is not a demonstration of progress beyond it but continuing indebtedness.
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>>221209164
Because God loves his creation (us) and wants us to choose Him over evil. Allowing us to choose to follow Him or not. As an example, even when Satan rebelled (Gods most beautiful angel) and wanted nothing to do with God. God allowed him to live outside of his presence (love) - this place, devoid of God's love is named: Hell.

With regards to children getting cancer, this is one of the mysteries. Something no one can answer, if you want a scientific response, more likely the carcinogens, plastics and chemicals in our air, water and food consistently increasing over the years.

God is only good, basically pure love - incapable of evil or sadism or things of that nature. One thing also to keep in mind as we are just human, we see things often just through that lens only - so what we see as horror/sad/torture in the supranatural may not be, no one knows God's plan.

A way to imagine this, is that God is a master weaver, weaving a tapestry. We are like the loose threads, looking up, never seeing the master at work at the top. These threads are all lengths, colours etc, some gold, shining, long, short, dull, grey, etc. Our lives are woven together as intended to live as one in communion with one another and God. When we die we'll see the tapestry (read: God's plan) in its glory. Until then no one knows why some children die of cancer. I hope that makes sense.
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>>221209381
>why did god create it?
Did he?
I'm not aware that he did.
I'm pretty sure cancer is just a degeneracy of your cells buddy
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>>221209388
and I wish it well but it’s in the past just like all the paganism and superstitions that came before, it’s no different from the rest and we don’t need it anymore
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>>221209390
>Because God loves his creation (us) and wants us to choose Him over evil. Allowing us to choose to follow Him or not.
so he gave us the capability to do evil because he wants to shit-test us? what kind of sadistic bullshit is that? is god a woman?

>>221209449
>I'm not aware that he did.
then who did? someone had to have. did another god separate from the christian one create it?

>I'm pretty sure cancer is just a degeneracy of your cells buddy
even in the case of a 3 year old having it?
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>>221209723
>even in the case of a 3 year old having it?
Yes, even in the case of a 3 years old having, yes
Do you think 3 years old get magical cancer or something?
> someone had to have
How do you know it's not manmade
AIDS it's manmade, why would you blame god for it
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>>221209870
>Yes, even in the case of a 3 years old having, yes
ok so back to the original question: why does god allow this to happen? why does he give an innocent 3 year old terminal cancer?

>How do you know it's not manmade
not how the real world works bud. burden of proof is on (You)

>AIDS it's manmade
no it's not? it's theorized to come from eating bush meat
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>>221210039
You are not equipped to have that conversation as probed.
You are simultaneously asking why a kid has an illness and at the same time discounting human's ability to give illnesses
If we swapped the 3yo "terminal cancer" for "AIDS given to him by his uncle that raped the 3yo", is god still to blame for giving the 3yo AIDS?
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>>221206306
>godless zoomer suburbanite troon encounters someone who's actually religious
>"UMMMM do people like this actually exist fr fr???"

Note that you also went and watched a low-budget movie that came out 14 fucking years ago in order to find something to get triggered over.
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>>221209281
i want to like neopagans but it's a vehicle to marry gays and not a real religion and they're so pozzed they might as well be jews
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>>221206438
Holy shit, the fedora-tipping troons ITT did NOT like this Truth Bomb.
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>>221206479
Aside from specifying "Whites" this post is literally indistinguishable from an r/atheism post circa 2007. You retards literally get your info from fucking Family Guy.
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>>221210487
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>>221207462
Who is man to judge God's will?
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>>221206550
>it's bad because it failed to modernize and oppresses blacks and trannies and other problematic things
>it's bad because it failed to modernized and stopped oppressing blacks and trannies like it's supposed to

I really wish you atheist faggots would get together and at least synchronize your scripts rather than simultaneously trying to run outright contradictory anti-Christian scripts.
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>>221210487
most atheists i know are against trans
it’s only areligious that are pro trans
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>>221209281
>a return to local pagan beliefs
Holy fuck you people are such an unbelievable fucking joke.
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>>221210537
Why do you keep posting this, despite not knowing what "Virtue-Signaling" means?
Are you trying to force it to catch on?
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>>221210306
>You are not equipped to have that conversation as probed.
aka "i'm getting stunlocked by simple questions that only illustrate how contrived my religion really is"

>If we swapped the 3yo "terminal cancer" for "AIDS given to him by his uncle that raped the 3yo", is god still to blame for giving the 3yo AIDS?
we can get to that question, but i want you to answer the one i posited first. why can't you answer it? why is this such an insurmountable task for you?
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>>221210563
>most atheists i know are against trans
Ah, well, your baseless personal anecdote certainly trumps actual facts & statistics.

>it’s only areligious that are pro trans
Atheists ARE "areligious" you fucking retard.
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>>221206550
>they failed to modernize with the times
???
The point of religion is to have core values that are beyond current laws and culture that can shift one way or another
You have a very, very poor understanding of religion if you think a religion is supposed to incorporate Jazz Festivals 60 years ago, ditch it recently, incorporate Halloween today and make it religious, and ditch it in 20 years, incorporate Burning man, ditch it for whatever...
The point of religion is that is stands the test of time.
If you want christianity to include homos today, and homos become illegal in 30 years, should they ditch it again, and go back and forth?
That's stupid and a testament of how small your world is
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>>221210561
>seething about minorities and trannies out of nowhere
ok this is a bot isn't it
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>>221206550
>they failed to modernize with the times
Yeah, unc, don't they know that these days you need pop-music and trans-acceptance to get anywhere?
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>>221210620
>certainly trumps actual facts & statistics.
it does actually
your study is garbage, 9 years old, and acts like atheists and agnostics are separate
you lost liberal
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>>221210626
>retard doesn't understand the arguments being referenced
Yeah, as expected.
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>>221210642
>it does actually
No, by definition it doesn't, retard.
The fact remains that atheists are way, way bigger supporters of the subversive woke-cuck politics destroying the West and the numbers prove it.
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>>221210614
We don't we get to that question now, so we can poke holes in your reasoning framing, that I correctly identified as flawed and directly adresses your cancer framing, and that's why the AIDS question was asked.
It's not a random question that just so happen to adress your worldview and question your framing, it was a deliberate read from my part based on your posts:
If an uncle rape that 3yo and give him AIDS, is god to blame for the 3yo getting AIDS?
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>>221210674
atheists are chads who have embraced the post-modern nature of existence
the areligious are just grown up manchildren rejecting christianity out of spite
high fertility conservative family value atheists are the future of humanity
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>>221210624
>The point of religion is that is stands the test of time.
clearly not, as its power in mainstream america has collapsed in the span of a couple generations. 60 years ago kennedy, a catholic, being elected president caused hysteria amongst prots because they thought he was going to turn the country into some sort of papist vassal state. when biden, also a catholic was elected literally no one cared. not even the catholics. some test of time that is kek.

>>221210683
>We don't we get to that question now
ok this conversation is over then because it's clear you are actually the one that doesn't have the intellect to continue it. i accept your concession. have a good night.
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>>221210780
>ok this conversation is over
I did not conceded to anything, I was just trying to show your hypocrisy or lack of actual foundations on your beliefs as stated here
>>221210306
You want ME to answer in the name of god (an insurmountable task), but YOU can't answer in the name of humans (A very easy task in comparison).
You have proven twice that you are not equipped to have the conversation, even when given the easier task.
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>>221206387
>White zoomer christianity
Schopenhauer thinked exactly that.
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>>221206479
>the Renaissance and the works of Nietzsche
Just say the greeks and the romans, man.
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>>221207462
I'm not smart enough to make an articulate academic reply but think of how celebrities have to deal with unwanted attention everytime they walk on the streets, now imagine if God wandered around humans.
People literally sell their children in order to obtain fame, think of what they would do to have a convo with God Himself.
I believe evolution is proof God created the universe and left it on autopilot long before life existed.
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>>221210844
>>221210306 isn't me you stupid christkike that can't even follow a simple reply chain.

anyway, concession accepted. here's your final (You) from me. don't bother replying (i know you're going to anyway), i'm closing the tab and won't read it.
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>>221211161
>i'm closing the tab and won't read it!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iTvKvQI8SRs



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