Canonize Darth Jar Jar and film the episodes II and III Lucas wanted

>>221206820
its been a fucking decade nigga move the fuck on

if you still cared about star wars after the prequels and without lucas being involved you have actual brain damage

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>>221206820
the people who are getting paid are all listed in the credits near the bottom.
the only way to fix it is for productions to be subject to the same oversight as publicly traded corporations.
>the days of simply awarding your cousin Chaim a $20 million contract for sound editing services are over. we require 3 at least 3 quotes and also he is a registered sex offender.

>>221206955
I was like 6 when the phantom menace came out, and it was the sickest thing ever. It made me wall in love with star wars.

There are a lot of cool content that expands the universe in a good way like Rebels, Clone Wars and the Bad Batch.

Loving star wars is a lifetime style obsession like people whose whole identity is the Lord Of The Rings style fantasy, I just love sci-fi. And even though I'm not a fucking writer even I see the very simple solution disney should do to instantly get the billion-dollar paying audience back. Just make a set of movies that ignore the sequels happened.

That isn't decanonizing the sequels, they can still continue that timeline too with movies like the StarFighter, and let fans decide which timeline they are willing to pay for.

Andor isn't good.

>>221206820
The Nu-Trilogy came out at a time when subverting expectations and having sad endings happen was really popular, so they jumped on that bandwagon.

>>221206955
some people still care. you don't have to force your opinions on them.

>>221207254
aight man enjoy filoni grogu-verse or whatever

>>221207133
it was deeper than that
during production they had press tours and writers that Kathleen Kennedy hires admitted that they constantly were told to solve "problems"

One problem they were told to solve was that Disney thought that the OG fans would only be enjoying star wars if its familiar enough, so they were ordered to reset the status-quo. They had to weaken the New Republic and had to strenghten the remains of the empire to restore the "small rebel-cell vs big strong opressors" narrative.

And originall they tried to pair Rey and Luke up like Obi-wan and Qui-gon, but "someone" kept insisting that Luke potentionally stealing the show from Rey is a problem, so they had to find a reason to hide him, so they had him go through a tragedy.

And Han Solo had to be put back into the "lone smuggler" role for the same "star wars needs to be familiar" demand, that's why he divorced Leia. They wanted them to end up back together, but then Harrison Ford demanded they kill him off, so that was a huge kick in the nut for the "familiarity"

>>221207286
Frankly these Hollywood execs seem to have an IQ around 70. Literally retarded

>>221207286
Would Ford have stayed on as Han if the character had been massively civilized by Leia. What if he was in the new republics high command?

>>221206820
Star Wars is fucking gay

/thread

>>221207286
these people are stupid and out of touch lmao

>>221207286
>but “someone”
It was Michael Arndt, he kept telling them he didn’t know how to fit Luke into the story without stealing the spotlight and JJ couldn’t figure it out either so they threw him in at the end to figure out later.

>>221207378
Just have him follow Luke as he rebuilt the Order and they could continue to do cool adventures together. Just because the Empire is ded doesn't mean space is without its dangers and adventures.

boomers and jews think appearance is enough

they can't capture soul

>>221207485
this to be entirely honest. Them hunting down hiding remaining imperials, like nazis in brazil would've been fun as fuck.

heck, I wouldn't even mind the whole palpatine clone plot, I liked the Dark Empire comics as a kid, where clone palpi specifically tried to steal the body of one of Han's and Leia's kids because his own clone bodies rejected his corrupted sith soul.

>>221207378
I could've seen Han and Leia as the cool grandparents that let the grandkids man the turret on the Millenium Falcon.

If Hera can have her son on a military ship why wouldn't they?

>>221207513
boomers and jews are the ones who made the originals though

>>221206820
star wars is supposed to be fun and goofy and for children. we don't need or want slop like andor

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>>221207527
who is hera?

>>221207527
They don't even have to hunt down remnants of the Empire. Actually, that sounds like a terrible idea. The problem with the sequels beyond shitting on the old characters is it brought nothing new. They should be finding some new evils while trying to recruit new force sensitives to the rebuilding order. Maybe a group that uses the dark side that aren't siths. Anything new that expands the world.

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>>221206820
They don't care about OG fans. They don't care about prequel fans. Why? Because you ARE replaceable. You will live only for so long and you will die. New generations will take your place. Those new generations will eat up whatever slop they shit out because it was their first exposure to Star Wars. That's why they don't care about you. There is a new crop of customers being born every day. They got your money already. They don't need your to keep opening your wallet because your replacements will

>>221206820
>you need to retcon the fucking sequels and give the original heroes their happy endings back
pretty sure that's been floated as one of disney's plans, the new sequels will take the place of the rey trilogy which will have never happened

>>221206820
Don't pretend like you sloppers didn't slop up Force Awakens came out.

>>221207649
No? The movies are flopping.

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>>221207584
She is from Star Wars Rebels (its a fun show despite that it starts out as a kid-show, really worth a watch)

She is the pilot of the Ghost, and leader of the Phoenix Squadron Rebel Cell.
She has the most adorable murder-happy astromech Chopper (who is by far the best character from any star was show) and the show ends with her having a Human-Twi'lek hybrid son.

>>221207649
Wrong. Without the old gen approving and handing off the baton to the new gen, there is nothing inherently holding newgen to Star Wars. Hence the huge drop in fandom and viewership.

>>221207232
This guy got paid millions of dollars for this btw

>>221207649
>Because you ARE replaceable.
aha, that's why they are a calling the og fans "toxic" for not showing up in the theaters.

>don't watch if you don't like it!
>don't care if you don'T like it, we didn't made it for you
>...
>hey why is nobody watching this

modern generations, mostly my little brother's and cousins's and nephews age, don't care about star wars. They are eating IPs like a Smorgasbord. Monday they are into Game of Thrones, in Thuesday they are all about the Dune, Wednesday they are into Bluey. Modern kids don't settle, and they don't like to get too many of one thing, they like to try out everything.

>>221207479
Man I forgot about that. Rey not only can swim but she is an expert in sailing despite living ON A FUCKING DESERT PLANET.

>>221207687
You're delusional. You are not some arbiter of Star Wars. The young will not look up at you with starry eyes begging to know if its okay to like whatever new Star Wars shit comes out. They'll like whatever they're served because they wont know any better. And they wont listen to "unc" rambling on about dem good old days of Star Wars

>>221207649
Have you had your head in the sand since 2017 or something? Cause people are defending the ST less and less, Andor is about the only thing that had praise (mostly from older fans) and Matt Belloni had an interview with zoomer teenagers about what movies they were watching and one zoomer who was born either 2008 or 2009 said that any Star Wars made after he was born isn't great.

>>221206955
That's not the point you dumb nigger.

>>221207783
not OP but thats exactly what happened.

When my little brother was little, we watched star wars together a bunch of times. The older generation passes down love for a franchise, intentionally or unintentionally

When we came out from the screening of episode 8 and he saw my face of utter hopelessness over ereasure of Luke's Jedi Order and his legacy and him dying, he just shut down too. He wasn't even willing to come with me to see Star Wars 9. He knew beforehand that I will not like it, and if I wont like it, he knew he would probably not like it either.

I have tried to get him into some SW sideshow ever since, Clone Wars, Andor but he is dismissive of the whole IP now. The modern audience disney chases sees desperation not inspiration in star wars

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>>221207795
why do older fans like andor?

>>221207649
>>221207783
It's 2026, anon
If you haven't caught on that Disney Star Wars has been on a decline in audience reception since Last Jedi that's on you

>>221207886
They feel it's deep and stuff

>>221207886
because they are old and it's a show for old people

>>221206820
>Lets undo the myth! You heroes are fake, there is no payoff for hard work and sacrifice
You forgot to mention that Anakin's redemption arc and ultimate sacrifice, IE the main story of both the OT and Prequels, is null because "somehow Palatine returned"

>>221207886
because they're tourists who don't like star wars

>>221207886
its a good mythos for a legendary character that filled a major plothole of episode 4.
It takes place in a great time that shows the rise and true ruthlessness of the empire that make the fight against them in the OG trilogy that much more satisfying

andor enhances the original material by giving more UNF to the things that happened in the OG trilogy

the sequel trilogy undid the OG trilogy and its conclusions. The "Return of the Jedi" was suppose to be a Double entendre. Its not just the return of "A" jedi with Luke rising as a jedi master, but "THE" jedi as the concept returning to the galaxy. the title itself foreshadows Luke's success in returning the Jedi to the galaxy.

Undoing the meaning behind episode 6's clever title, by Luke failing to return the Jedi to the galaxy is not enchancing the lore and the mythos, its contradicting it.

>>221207977
chatgpt?

>>221207992
why because I use a few rarely seen words?
No, I typed that shit

>>221206820
Star Wars is dead. It's fine. Things are allowed to die. That's just nature.

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>>221207772
Luke piloted a SNOWspeeder on a SNOW planet

>>221208023
i mean, i just wish it would've died with grace
not with a continuation so bad that 85% of the fandom agrees, "since its not George's story, its not canon"

Like does that has any other example in cinema history?

Imagine someone making a sequel trilogy to the Lord of The Rings and its so bad fans all go "It's not what Tolkein would've wanted, so its not canon. Your company is bastardizing this ip and disrespecting the original creator."

>>221207390
Star wars is gay NOW. You obviously don't remember naked green alien sex slave titties.

>>221208066
Piloting an AIRCRAFT after establishing the he is an expert pilot because he practiced in hostile enviroments since childhood

somehow comparible to someone having experience in SAILING despite never having seen WATER before

>>221207886
andor fans are not old star wars fans

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>>221207783
Genuinely what year do you think it is, and how much money do you think Star Wars is pulling in right now?

>>221208107
shut the FUCK up

>>221208128
i am

>>221207232
Their plans would have been subverted by Rian anyways and then they'd have to salvage it again with the third. This was destiny.

>>221208077
star wars died when lucas sold it to disney. Its ok. they sometimes make good content by accident like 1 or two scenes in the mandalorian or the final confrontation of the han solo story.

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>>221208077
>Imagine someone making a sequel trilogy to the Lord of The Rings and its so bad fans all go "It's not what Tolkein would've wanted, so its not canon. Your company is bastardizing this ip and disrespecting the original creator."

What about a prequel to Lord of the Rings?

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>>221207649
A white man can't "rape" a Latina. Latinas are domestic animals selectively bred for their desirable traits through the span of hundreds of years. Their sole purpose is to serve and please white men and to produce more servants. The whole reason their countries are in such chaos is because they have been let loose without their masters to raise them and give them a proper purpose thus taking on wild indigenous traits without the natural ecosystem to support this lifestyle.

This is why I couldn't take "Obsession" seriously. A Latina rejecting being controlled and dominated by a white man is unnatural and unbelievable. Though the woman's unhinged behavior is believable and relatable.

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>>221208077
>Imagine someone making a sequel trilogy to the Lord of The Rings and its so bad fans all go "It's not what Tolkein would've wanted, so its not canon. Your company is bastardizing this ip and disrespecting the original creator."

>>221208182
2 > 1 > 4 > 3

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>>221206820
>You can't be this retarded
>I refuse to believe you do not see the fucking problem
So..., still pretending they are not doing this on purpose to every IP with a white male fan base?

>>221208077
Yeah, Pacific Rim and Highlander. Anything after the first film doesn't exists.

>>221208175
>>221208187

eeeh, maybe? Though it takes place thousands of years before the main timeline. Thing like that cannot undo the happy ending of the actual heroes, so its easier to dismiss as bad-filler, like the Acolyte.

What kills a franchise is when you intentionally stomp on the heroes that people came to love and root for.

>>221208255
based blackrock

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>>221206820
Hmmm. Well this is a scenario I didn't see.


I did predict that **eventually** SW was destined to be complete shit and utterly unprofitable because being owned by a company meant it would exist forever and somewhere at some time no one would gaf about SW anymore because they would fuck it up so bad.


What I did not predict is that it would be so soon and that it would be that **because** SW was owned by a giant company it could effectively afford to double down on failing strategy until the franchise was completely abandoned and only try hard nerd influencers kept watching it.

Still, technically:


I FUCKING CALLED IT

DAY.FUCKING.1.

When all you shits were getting excited for TFA and climbing up to Kennedy's snatch for saying the EU was cut and completely not canon. I fucking told you this shit would happen. My only regret is not saving the post.

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BRING HIM BACK

>>221208318
Do you remember your exact words?

>>221208215
They don’t want boys having dreams and role models. This is what this is about. Boys are taught both in school and through entertainment that women run the world. There are currently zero TV shows aimed at children with strong male characters. It’s no accident.

Lucasfilm will reportedly target an audience aged 10 to 70 — a comically wide range — with a stated focus on teens and young adults, anchored by PG-13 ratings.
AI will reportedly be used to generate environments and visual effects.
Creatives will reportedly have to build stories that fit within Filoni’s overarching framework.
The stated cadence is reportedly two shows and one movie per year.
Standalone films will reportedly become rare, with the focus shifting toward “the next saga.”
Films are reportedly expected to be epic and high-stakes, carry a clear vision, establish worlds, and tell interconnected stories.
All shows will reportedly be set in the New Republic era, used as a sandbox to experiment with tone, genre, and structure.
Both animation and live-action series will reportedly continue.
“Star Wars has to remain special” is reportedly an explicit directive.
Lucasfilm will reportedly court emerging and established talent, with particular emphasis on the 18-to-25 bracket.

>>221208318
mega corpos always draw the wrong conclusion

you could have an angy mob outside their window with a giant sign about what we want and they would still minsunderstand and the fix the wrong thing.

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>>221208077
WHY THE FUCK WOULD A MULTI BILLION DOLLAR COMPANY WANT TO MAKE SOMETHING YOU'D WANT TO BUY??


THE STOCK MARKET KEEPS GROWING AND WE HAVEN'T MADE A GODDAMN THING SINCE 1996.


CLEARLY, PRODUCING THINGS PEOPLE WANT IS NOT HOW MONEY GETS MADE AS FAR AS ANYONE IN ANY BUSINESS HERE IS CONCERNED.

THOUGHT YOU'D FIGURE THAT OUT WHEN YOU CAN'T GIVE FORD $100K FOR A TRUCK WHOSE DOOR HANDLE YOUR 13 YR OLD SON CAN'T RIP OFF.

THE ONLY HOPE OF GOOD THINGS GETTING MADE IS BY PEOPLE THAT ENJOY MAKING THE THING.

AND WE TOOK IT AWAY BECAUSE WE COULDN'T UNDERSTAND THE MAJESTY AND SHEER DARING CUTTING EDGE STORYTELLING THAT WAS DARTH JAR JAR

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>an audience aged 10 to 70

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>>221206993
A promising start for new era for sure

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>>221207977
Man, finally a good take. Also dubs
That's the real unforgiveable sin of Disney-Wars to me, the utter destruction of what we were given by GL at the end of Return of the Jedi.

The OT ends with Anakin fulfilling his destiny as the chosen one of the jedi by redeeming himself from the dark side and destroying Palpatine, ending the sith once and for all. His sacrifice brings balance to the force and leaves a galaxy at peace for his son to rebuild the jedi order.

jk haha somehow palpatine returned and the empire never really went away whatever lol

>>221208406
>Films are reportedly expected to be epic and high-stakes, carry a clear vision, establish worlds, and tell interconnected stories.
Sure bud, like this would be some "new idea"

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>>221208353
No, something about being the lifespan of the property getting stretched to infinity by being owned by a faceless company which guaranteed that it would get raped into the dirt until it couldn't make Disney anymore money instead of getting a proper send off when the creator died or his children let someone with proper reverence near the franchise.

>>221207649
>Because you ARE replaceable
...So WHERE'S my "replacement"? Why aren't they showing up to the movies?

>>221208517
Just because you are replaceable doesn't mean you'll get replaced.

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What the FUCK were they thinking?

>>221208571
whatever happened to these?

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>>221206820
It all come down to Kathleen Kennedy. If you know her past its very, very obvious she had an issue with pride and was adamant about creating Star Wars "her say" because she was always told no before. And for good reason.
>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f6IHtM6sZeQ

>>221208599
>"What if he didn't get the girl, but he got the dog?"
That's it. That's modern star wars and disney.

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>Wakey wakey Benny!

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>>221206993
AAAHHHHHHH

>>221208639
>>221208591
My HERO

>>221206993
The best part is you know this was 100% intentional. And the worst part is that a stormtrooper turned jedi sounds fucking amazing compared to what we got

>>221206955
>a decade
Anon is literally talking about a current news topic from today

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>>221208465
omg that "where are they now" encapsulates the problem of the sequels perfectly

>>221207232
The sequels didn’t really need a plan, they needed someone with a creative vision who could give the entire thing direction. A George Lucas in other words.

>>221208516
Gen X was saying everything about George Lucas that millennials say about KK and Filoni.
>George ruined his own franchise
>He doesn’t even know what made Star Wars good
>He should never be allowed to write or direct another movie
South Park had multiple episodes about this.

>>221208591

This is bad, but it made me laugh in the theater.

>>221208710
He literally left them notes. Like he had an entire passionate storyline that served this exact purpose. And Kathleen promised to use it ebfore throwing it out

>>221208591
This was when Hollywood was knee deep in the
>"it's subversive!"
angel

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>>221208465
That is the first star wars meme I've saved in nearly 10 years.

i've said it before. it's cultural maoists, these people aren't leftists, they are maoists. they want to tear down the pillars of traditional american culture and feminize it. star wars was deeply problematic, even if lucas is a cuck nowadays, he at one point was influenced by the hero's journey which was a story structure created by joseph campbell, a man who causes immense butthurt in libshits (leftists) today because his work is incredibly anti feminist though that wasn't the point of it at all. you can see it around you if you actually look, "the force is female," a soft reboot of a new hope starring a woman which was bad enough, but also one of the worst written characters of all time. these people don't care about money, they have all the money and influence. they are moral busybodies that will stop at nothing to force you into their ideology

>>221208835
It could not be more obvious when the movie literally goes "kill the past, bury it if you must"

>>221207992
Fuck, the kids really are illiterate.

>>221208835
At least Disney admits Rey Skywalker failed to resonate with young girls and women. But they’ll learn nothing and make ten more Rey Skywalkers. Surely one of them will catch on!

>>221208107
He's practically a crop duster. Completely unbelievable.

https://youtu.be/OYlDKnRAm28?t=41

>>221207479
The Goonies knife is maybe the dumbest part. Horses on a Star Destroyer is up there. Telling some old lady in the desert your made-up name is also bad.

>>221206993
This made over a billion dollars

>>221209019
It’s because Disney + shows are visually dull and safe. There’s nothing to spark the imagination. I can’t imagine a little kid watching Andor or The Acolyte. Kids only watched Mando because Baby Yoda was cute and silly.

>>221209095
>Kids only watched Mando because Baby Yoda
I don't know if kids watched Mando at all but in my experience with hanging out and jamming on beds with kids, they're really not into the cute stuff.

>>221208861
Except for the parts of the past that are used to maintain a perpetual victim status, those you can't bury.

>>221206820
>You can't be this retarded
No, YOU can't be this retarded. It was never about making fans happy, or even about making money. It was just a vehicle for propaganda, just like 99% of the media you've consumed since that fucking chimpanzee was President.

>>221209054
But it permanently sank the franchise. So you tell me: was it worth it?

none of it is canon after OT. Only OT and EU is canon

>>221209329
That's not how canon works.

>>221209231
All I am saying is that this was the very first thing people saw of a Star Wars sequel and they decided to give it over a billion dollars

>>221207886
Andor is a show for longtime sci-fi fans, not specifically Star Wars fans. It has more echoes of Babylon 5 and Star Trek than the original trilogy; perhaps it has that political plot element of the prequels, only it was always secondary to the action. Perhaps the happiest viewers are those fans of the expanded universe who feel that everything needs to be filled in or explained, and hopefully in the most believable way possible.

Personally, I think it kills the magic of what Star Wars originally was, but look how Rogue Squadron is also well-received by that same audience, and it's a dark and grim film, of which, except for the ending with Vader, I can't remember anything.

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>>221206820
As an empirefag I’m mostly upset that the imperial remnants don’t reform into something less influenced by retarded sith toxicity.

>>221209355
it's all made up so who fucking cares

>have an entire miniverse of shows taking place during or after the OT
>don't make any of them about post-rotj Luke going around being a badass mopping up imperial remnants or rogue inquisitors
>even have a whole show about Anakin's former apprentice taking on Grand Admiral Thrawn but Luke is nowhere to be seen
Filoni is fucking gay, dude.

>>221206993
>Movie hypes up finn as a storm trooper Jedi, Rey is an orphan Jedi
>Kylo is supposed to be the most bad ass with ever created
>Phasma is King (queen) of the storm troopers
>It all turns out to be shit

>>221209473
Filoni verse only cares about ahsoka and his shitty ocs. Best to ignore Filoni slop entirely.

>>221207783
Except young people don't care about Star Wars at all. Shits like Backrooms and Obsession BTFO big budget Star Wars film should are telling you enough.

>>221206820
No. It´s over. They have had 20+ years. At this point the damage is irreversible. If they could do or were willing to do anything about it they would have done it already. This is true for most the IPs that have been heavily butchered these past decades. You can´t save any of them. Not Alien, not Terminator, not Doctor Who, not Jurassic Park, none of them. What audiences need is new movies made with the same love, care and skill as the ones they once loved. That´s all.

>>221209550
Unfortunately that immediate post-rotj era is of great interest to me and he has sole creative input for it

>OP realizes it's not about making money to the ghouls

>>221207649
>Those new generations will eat up whatever slop they shit out because it was their first exposure to Star Wars.
except they aren't, which is the subject of the article

Just ignore disney fanon.
G Canon - Episodes 1-6 end.
EU Verse - Ended at Cade killing Krayt and the Sith beaten.

>>221207050
I was also 6 when the phantom menace came out and I thought it was lame because anakin is a kid who is kind of whiny and lame. Jarjar was lame too. I didnt really know what was going on in the plot. I remember I liked the part where they went underwater, that was cool.

I also remember I went to a friend's birthday party and he took all of us to see Attack of the Clones and we all hated that movie.

>>221207683
Pure reddit.

>>221207886
>It's just good.

>>221209580
Nta but luckily for me I know it's not canon so I don't have to waste my time on it.

>>221207232
looking slightly like Spielberg can only get you so far

>>221209797
It's because you guys are little shits. The prequels are about ObiWan, not Anakin.

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>>221208318
>When all you shits were getting excited for TFA and climbing up to Kennedy's snatch for saying the EU was cut and completely not canon


Yeah I remember saying it was a bad sign. Not because the EU was just oh so good, but because it was completely unnecessary to announce that decision. That was a move that served no purpose other than to make someone with power happy. The fans that didn't like the EU were already sticking around anyway. The fans that liked the EU would leave. There was no way that announcing it could possible be in Disney's interests. They could have just kept making their movies and shows and all of it would have immediately been regarded as a higher level of canon than the EU anyway. So they deliberately went out of their way to piss off anyone that liked the EU for no reason. So if they'd did that, why wouldn't they do something else? If they would deliberately nuke part of the fanbase for no possible gain, why in the hell wouldn't they nuke other parts to stroke the ego of anyone that had power over the franchise? Disney started their stewardship of Star Wars badly, and it looks like they're ending it badly.

>>221209850
>The prequels are about ObiWan, not Anakin
Is that why he made Anakin the protagonist and Obi-wan a complete non-character? The entire point of those fucking movies is getting Anakin in the Vader suit.

>>221206820
hey you remember all those faggots who said the Disney trilogy would be beloved like the prequels?

good times.

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>>221207232
>acknowledges it probably would have been better if they had approached the star wars sequel trilogy with a plan


I know I'm slowpoking and it's been done but picture related.


I still cannot believe that these fucking clowns had the god damn motherfucking nerve.

>>221207649
The problem there is that they're not making it appealing to new generations either. Nuwars is only made to appeal to the writers that are penning this retarded shit and their friends.
Doubly so when you consider that a lot of the resurgent craze for Star Wars back in the 90s was from parents showing their kids the movies when they were screening on free to air TV and going
>hey kids come and check this out you'll love it
Nobody's sitting the kids down to watch Rey girlboss her way through a bunch of retarded shit or Andor mope around and pretend to be a gritty serious drama, and if they do then the kids are back on their tablets within a few minutes because it's fucking lame and boring.

>>221207378
IIRC Ford wanted out since The Empire Strikes Back. I'm genuinely surprised they managed to get him back for TFA. They must have offered him one hell of a paycheck.

>>221207232
No fuckin shit

7 was so dull and uncreative I never bothered with 8 or 9
I like the other originals and even the prequels to some extent how did they fuck this up do much
Rogue one pretty good tho

>>221206820
>Who is getting paid here? Who is actively sits into the Lucasfilm meetings
Usually the answer to this is consultants and producers.

>>221209871
>Daala girlboss gatekeep (poison)gassing her way to a Super Star Destroyer and still fucking it all up
>the Hutts trying to make a mini-Death Star out of old pinball machine parts
>Bevel Lemelisk spending the entire book wishing he was dead
>Luke almost gets killed (again) by the same wampa on Hoth
Man, Darksaber was a fucking trip. Still would have made for a better movie than any of the sequels.

>>221206820
>>Hey why didn't the kids whose parents and older brothers and sisters we insulted are interested in star wars?
Proofread your posts

>>221207783
>The young will not look up at you with starry eyes begging to know if its okay to like whatever new Star Wars shit comes out
Yeah that's because they don't give a shit about Star Wars in the first place.

hope the kotr remake never comes out I don't need graphics obessed goons playing kino

>>221207886
Desperation to hang onto some last facet of Star Wars so then can go "l-look, it's not ALL bad!"
It's incredibly boring, and Rogue One is a shit movie filled with utterly forgettable characters and retarded retcons. Krennic was okay I guess

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>>221209871
Yeah it’s out of character for the mouse to turn down free money with people churning out fanfiction for them. Maybe some weird unholy alliance where cannon shills like Pablo wanting to go the extra mile to appease Kennedy being in charge completely. I don’t believe a producer type like Kennedy actually cared about the story since she didn’t make sure their was an overarching story and goal instead of having directors spiting each others visions. Like marvel is allowed to have different continuities why can’t Star Wars? Are Star wars fans just that insufferable that they were really afraid of some irrelevant nerds holding their own continuity over the official Yidsney one?

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>>221210156
Luv death troopers, would have been cool if it was revealed that some of them were augmented clones. Morrison can do the voice over with some Māori body double.

>>221210301
All they are is glossy black stormtroopers that mumble menacingly into their comms, and for some reason only a single guy in the Empire has them as his guard.
I did like getting a slightly expanded view of the Empire but honestly the main characters are so insufferably dull that it ruins the movie. Everyone goes "oh but what about donnie yen doing his kung fu shit" and it's like yeah okay but most people can't even remember the character's name, they just remember him being a blind kung fu monk in like two scenes of the entire movie.
I especially like that the Andor show has to go through the trouble of showing us that Andor is a ruthless dick who'll kill someone in cold blood despite the opening of Rogue One already showing us this, which means any character growth he has in the series will be immediately undone by the time we get to that point again.

>>221210211
>Like marvel is allowed to have different continuities why can’t Star Wars?
Marvel established this as a deep rooted part of their lore a looooooong time ago. It's why none of the marvel fanboys were ever really dead set on canon, but rather that they get the vibes right. They were predisposed to having stories change, appearances modified and origins fluctuate.Theoretically Star Wars could too, but I don't think there's anything in any of the material that would have alluded to it before. So the mouse would be pulling it out of its ass, and judging from their past performance....

>>221207232
They already knew that, they just think it's funny taking fat sloppy jewish shits all over your culture. Imagine if during the height of greek mythos a tribe infiltrated their society and started making all the gods even more retarded and gay than usual, nonsensical garbage like ares gobbling up turds for fun and aphrodite fucking black men exclusively. That's Hollywood

>>221210440
Well Star Wars had different levels of canon before. Maybe completely cutting off Lucas was a mistake. He is the still living beloved creator after all and having his input but moderated might have been the recipe for success. He gets to be more hands off to raise his kids and Disney avoids killing off their cash cow.

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>>221210448
Rey wanted to fuck the white guy, sperg. Boyega got the fat asian. You goddamn race obsessed snowflakes. I wish you queers would stop projecting your cuck fantasies

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>>221210448
Since she’s a goddess did the common people have spite for her proclivities or were they turned on by an immortal being been a huge fucking whore?

>>221210440
They already established a Star Wars pseudo-multiverse or some shit when Ahsoka managed to jump through time or dimensions to avoid getting ganked during Order 66 all so Filoni could shoehorn her into everything.

>>221210483
>Well Star Wars had different levels of canon before.


That's subtly different from alternate universes in a way the fans appreciated if you didn't.

>Maybe completely cutting off Lucas was a mistake

It was a massive mistake, yes. It could have been corrected if they had found someone like Filoni or Witwer who were passionate about the franchise to act as some sort of overarching story director and hired lore masters that would make everything make sense and overrule any of the more selfwanking ideas any passion driven franchise story director might have.

>>221210517
I wouldn't know my guy I don't watch Disney Wars, it's for fags and I'm not a fag.

>>221210549
>prequel fights are too fast and flashy and full of spectacle
>here's two tired old lesbians rolling around on the floor and swinging inflatable bats at one another instead
Why aren't the kids excited for this? I don't get it.

>>221208205
objectively correct

>>221210597
I don't watch it either anon, someone mentioned it's why she's in everything now and I wasn't going to bother watching that faggot shit.

>>221210549

Why is Ahsoka fat?

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....It's never going to happen...is it bros?

>>221208591
This was worse than that thing farting on jar jar in episode 1

>>221210582
I guess but it was the creator letting the fans have fun and partake in the creation of new content. Also some of the cover art for those old books is really beautiful and exemplifies the love the fans have for the ot and pt films.

>>221210634
She's a good friend of the Hostess company, too many space-twinkies.

>>221210652
Nope just more mando wading effortlessly through life with his 6000x folded beskar plot armor

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>>221206820
>still caring about this garbage
You people are pathetic…

>>221209548
Was I just retarded but I explicitly remember watching the Force Awakens with the assumption that Finn was gonna be the main character up until I pieced together during the movie that wasn't the case.

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>>221210768
We care about what it once was

>>221210793
>we could have had a movie about Luke and co. fighting a lizard man who wanted to date rape Leia and his sexbot bodyguard
>we could have had Dash Motherfucking Rendar duking it out with IG-88 and Boba Fett
At least we got a game out of it, I guess.

>>221208664
i actually played that as a kid. i had a stormtrooper toy, but he always took luke's lightsaber and ended up fightng darth vader. my mom asked me why one time, since she said they're both bad guys. i said the storm trooper was a good guy now. ugh, this reads like a reddit post. better to be honest, though. but yeah, it is a really cool idea. cast a better actor, *keep pieces of his armor* because it looks cool, and boom. there you go. all the mystique of the mandolorian (who is, again, just cool helmet man) and you could have had this all going back in... God, when was it even... 2015! ha! holy shit, they have been eating shit straight off the bag for over a decade now. well, no sympathy from anyone.

>>221207232
why was this retard allowed to kill both star trek and star wars?

>>221210833
Finn actually cucking Hux, Phasma, and Kylo out of an army would have been hilarious.

>>221209355
Yes it is. Do you think Disney buying Star Wars and just declaring the EU not-canon means everything before them is not canon?
Canon isn't whoever buys the thing later on and makes an arbitrary decision on it.
Most die hard Dune fans for example do not count Herbert's son's books because they are garbage and miss the point.

>>221207232
Lucas didn't have a plan for the OT tho..

>>221210833
The stupid thing is that they went through all the trouble of castrating the New Republic and saying "oh by the way there's a super-secret new Empire building a bigger death star on the planet where lightsaber crystals come from but nobody ever noticed, not even the guy making a new Jedi order" all so they could have a character who's a former Stormtrooper join the good guys, and then they completely forgot to do anything with him at all.
There's even another character who shows up in the third movie leading a group of other former stormtroopers, like they forgot that Finn exists since that would have been a perfect culmination to his story arc had they remembered to give him one in the first place.
Instead he's reduced to playing second fiddle in the final battle to a character who shows up at the last minute and has maybe five minutes of total screentime.
It'd be like Han giving Nien Numb the Falcon to fly at Endor while Lando gets stuck being the co-pilot.

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>Star Wars gas lost 85% of its audience

How exactly did they come up with that number? I thought Disney said Star Wars was doing great and didnt need its toxic fans?

Also what stage is this? Bargaining? Acceptance?

>>221207232
I knew the ST would be dogshit when i watched an interview of him before he released it
He said he wanted Star Wars to be more diverse and reflect the 21st century earth. Absolute woke rape of a beloved franchise. Libshits do this to every property they get their hands on.

>>221210948
>lando wearing hans clothes
Harrison really was that close to getting his wish and dying destroying the Death Star

>>221207783
>They'll like whatever they're served because they wont know any better
Then disney should try to make stand alone stories and not shit like ashoka
To watch ashoka you need to watch
>Every movie
>The clone wars cartoons
>The clone wars 3d
>Rebels
If you want peoples to eat the current slop, you should stop forcing them to watch the older stuff

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>>221210833
Stormtrooper with a lightsaber is a kino look

>>221210549
Wow that was actually really terrible. I'm so glad I didn't watch that show.

>>221210965
>he wanted Star Wars to be more diverse and reflect the 21st century earth
>all the nuwars aliens are a mishmash of ugly brown blobs instead of a colorful assortment of various creatures
What did he mean by this?

>>221210948
>There's even another character who shows up in the third movie leading a group of other former stormtroopers, like they forgot that Finn exists since that would have been a perfect culmination to his story arc
Wasn't this the original plan in Duel of the Fates?

>>221207649
Is that you Bryon Young? I thought 4chan was too dark for mormons....

>after the OT all the heroes had fleshed out normal lives and good looking children
>ST scraps all that every character is completely ruined and demoralised and they all have ugly retard evil kids

>>221210549
Watching Hayden come back and clearly having put in the effort to get back into practice for dueling was fucking depressing. He's giving it his all and absolutely styling on this slow, plodding actor we're supposed to think is matching him and pushing him back and it just looks awful when you see her clumsily swing the bat around while he's actually fencing.

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>>221211042
I wouldn't be surprised, "disillusioned villain/rival joins the good guys" is a classic cliche. I remember the EU had several stories with that premise, think it was Tales from the Mos Eisley Cantina that had a short story with one of the stormtroopers gradually coming to sympathize with the Rebels.
It's just amusing to me that they went and made an entirely new character to basically fill Finn's role in the story because they forgot to do anything with him for two entire movies.

>>221211082
It's honestly kind of insulting to think that the PT actors put in some level of effort to fight like they did and learn proper choreography while the ST and nuwars shit is just
>fuck it just swing the stick around like a bat with no training who fucking cares lol we'll edit it in post
despite spending infinitely more money on it.

>>221211109
Finn was supposed to have a more active role in recruiting those defectors in the original Duel of the Fates script
https://youtu.be/DBExyfw8mXk?t=662

>>221211150
wtf is this real? is this a comedy skit?

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they need to find better audience........one they havent burned yet..........how about internet guy.........who want to fuck alien or furry...........they should pay me 25 million dollar to direct...........big titty gungan adventure.............sexo..........

>>221207355
Most of them are literally in the early stages of dementia and are 80 years old. It's the same reason they keep trying to reboot properties that haven't been popular since the 80's like He-Man, they are literally mentally stuck in that time period.

>>221211168
Oh yeah, I seem to remember hearing about that. It's hilarious in the movie that they just show up out of nowhere like
>hey it's us the renegade stormies we're in the movie too
I was very drunk by this point in the movie so I might be misremembering it but I highly doubt it was any more nuanced than that.

>>221207378
No, the only way would be if George, Mark,and Carrie were there telling him not to be a wet blanket

>>221207649
How's that working out?

>>221208066
That was after like a 3-6 year time jump in the he spent the entire time in the military learning how to do that between movies

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>>221210965
You chud motherfucker. The ST sucked because it didn't have any structure and had no one in the background vetting shit so everything made sense. It didn't have well written characters or interesting art design for new ships, armors, or any of the eye candy that distinguished every piece of star wars media that had been released up until then. It was boring. It was dialed in. And it went nowhere and did it completely unplanned. With mystery box after mystery box that had nothing inside. And then they gave it to Rian to take a big fat dump on.

"duh brown ppl", Fuck, I wish that was what was wrong with it. If it had more ethnic groups and more gays and some trannies, who cares if everything else is great?

>>221208356
Boys only need one role model: our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ.

>>221211242
>take the check jackass
Imao could have been kino

The ST didn't fail because it had no "plan", it failed because it had no singular vision or artistic voice, and no purpose other than "to make money". The OT can barely be said to have any narrative plan at all, but what it did have was one guy in charge who had some ideas and themes he wanted to consistently get across and a reason to exist beyond profit (though it made a shit ton of that too).

>>221211319
>it failed because it had no singular vision or artistic voice, and no purpose other than "to make money"
Sounds like a plan would have fixed that

>>221211271
this can't be a serious post. Whats "chud" about quoting him?
Star Wars didnt need to be more diverse and like earth it was already fucking diverse and a galaxy far away, not like earth at all.

>>221211271
Yeah what idiots like you can't seem to get through your thick fucking skulls is that the DEI shit and the it actually just sucks are 1000% the same problem.

If you're walking into the writers room with the question "how can we makes this diverse and inclusive?" in mind then you've already fucked it up. Because you're not walking into the writers room with the question "how can we make this the best movie anyone has ever seen?" in mind.

AND I NEED YOU TO UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN RACISM AND ACTUAL CRITICISM, because I am sick of obnoxious dumbfucks like you pretending that the audience is the problem when you already know that the thing they're criticizing is shit. I need you to understand that you policing the criticism of a fucking shitshow like nu-wars is only keeping the fuckwits making this shit in the writers rooms instead of hooking on the the streets which is where they belong.

You can make a good point.
Or you can make a good film.
But the absolute fucking microsecond you're doing the former you are no longer doing the latter.

The reason all-white casts have historically produced kino isn't because we all hate black people, it's because when they made those casting decisions they focused on what casting decision made sense for the story they were trying to tell, instead of focusing on what twitter will say if they don't include a black person in every single fucking thing ever.

The entire reason John Boyaga was in TFA is because they wanted a black stormtrooper in the trailer to bait facebook into free marketing. That's it. That is 100% of his purpose in star wars.
And you're calling the fucking audience racist. You're a fucking moron.

>>221211150
why does everything have to become gay marvel reddit space communism

>>221206955
>its been a fucking decade nigga move the fuck on
>Report states they already lost 85% of their audience
Yeah, nigga, most of us already have.

>>221211354
>Star Wars didnt need to be more diverse
Star Wars doesn't need to exist and it does any way you dumb shit. It being diverse, Luke being black, the protag having a pussy, none of that actually detracts from anything. None of that makes anything unwatchable, it doesn't make the script suck, it doesn't make the designs boring. Having a racially diverse case, having gay characters, having trannies, none of that actually makes anything bad unless you're a goddamn chud that is incapable of enjoying anything if it doesn't have a white male on screen every 20 seconds.


You're the fucking 15 yr old girl that self inserts her mary sue into her fanfic and spends 3 pages describing every hair on her head and stitch on her dress only to have her self insert be a bland souless npc. None of the crap you were focused on mattered in the least.

>>221207355
You know that stupid bit in Solo where its revealed that a random airport security guard gave Han his last name? That was the scene that sold Bob Iger on the movie.

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>>221211413
They successfully baited Facebook but that jump scare was unnecessary. I wouldn’t say boyega is ugly but it focused on some unfortunate features of someone who just crashlanded into a desert.

>>221208066
Awwwwww
You're actually retarded.
Bless your little heart.

>>221211413
>"how can we makes this diverse and inclusive?" in mind then you've already fucked it up.


No you retarded ass fucked clown.

You fucked up when that was all you had.

If you go into writing and actually write CHARACTERS and oh, btw, they're samoan, black, gay, women or a goddamn talking chipmunk, the material can acknowledge it, but it has nothing to do with the fucking quality of the story.


You are the races and diversity for bad writing, but it's the exact other way around. It's the bad writing that had fucking nothing going on and just threw races in there for diversity.


>b -b-b-but they wanted the black stormtrooper

Yes and?

Why in the shit can a stormtrooper not be written in and oh btw, he's black?

Why the fuck is this just impossible in your head?

>>221211413
nta but the point is its not even about white this black that.

Its about the fact DEI woke shit is the literal death of human creativity,
You can no longer make a fiction setting or any piece of media where there is for example an entire community of people that are all very similar, then there are other communities out there on other worlds that are all similar homogenous communities. Maybe they meet up at a space truck stop and mingle together.
But with DEI woke slop none of these communities can be homogenous and unique in your fictional setting. They all have to be identical 21st century copies of the same DEI company these libshits work at. It applies to everything too all media from advertising to literature has to all be the same slop

>>221211508
>You are **BLAMING the races and diversity for bad writing, but it's the exact other way around. It's the bad writing that had fucking nothing going on and just threw races in there for diversity.
edit.

>>221211435
Actually it all fucking matters because YOU think it matter.
You're throwing this at everyone else but it's actually in YOUR dumbfuck head that this matters.

And BECAUSE this shit matters to you they don't bother with the script or any of the other shit.

Say the following out loud and believe it
>There is nothing wrong with telling a story that only has white people in it
The fact that you can't is the problem.

>>221207783
>And they wont listen to "unc"
Are you still using "unc" like a retarded faggot? hahaha

>>221211508
>No you retarded ass fucked clown.
Stopped fucking reading already. I'm not debating you, I'm TELLING YOU.

Wake up and see the world for what it actually is instead of as you'd prefer it to be.

>>221211513
Yeah I know, the hollywood adaptation of Der Untergang would have to have black nazis in it.

>>221210036
>Rogue one pretty good tho
Except its not, it's terribly written. Anyone who praises it is just a goyslopper. It's a terrible fucking movie with countless contradictions and poor writing.

>You want to be transported to another galaxy but it’s filled with theater kids wearing colorful zany clothes instead of cool alien designs
Like the Empire has been defeated, ayys aren’t oppressed anymore so how about you hire some competent prop guys and get to work populating your set with iconic ayys, hire your Asian, your black, and your white womyn but Poe should be a cool alien, hell Finn could have been a black zabrak. Some of your spunky British brunette self inserts for Kathleen Kennedy could have been near human ayys too, like Rey could have been a Chiss exiled from the ascendancy for being force sensitive.

>>221211524
No it matters because IT BOTHERS YOU. It bothers you because you are a racist assclown. It doesn't bother you that the actors are bad at their job, or the writing is disjointed, or the characterization doesn't fit the setting or situation. It bothers you that he's black, because that's what you're latching on to.

I'm TELLING YOU it's not that fucking deep. There's a million ways to do casting that involves diversity or dei or any other chud trigger word you can think of and wont actually make anything suck. But it can never work of the director, the writers, and the production team are all fucking morons.


>>221211543
You are retarded and should be ignored. The actors race does not make or break a movie unless that's all you cared about to begin with.

>>221211575
yeah its exactly that, it doesn't matter if your movie is satire, or entertainment or supposed to be critical of the thing you are depicting or maybe even playing devil's advocate.
It can no longer be considered creative art unless you have the freedom to cast whoever you want, if you are forced to always DEI cast, its not art its propaganda and it loses all creativity.

>>221207286
The core problem is that movies are designed in a boardroom with a bunch of marketing execs declaring things like
>if it's too different from our existing brand core fanbase won't turn out
As crazy as it seems, movies were better when you had to get a pitch meeting with some coked out sex pest jew producer and depending on his mood and how high he was you'd get some actual risks taken on new ideas. And you didn't have all sorts of interference from special interest groups about how certain groups are portrayed or intimacy coordinators.

>>221211610
i don't think the Empire even oppressed ayy's or hated them. It just wanted to rule over them and control everyone

>>221211639
>hitlers sperg out has been a disaster for America
The Jews could have stayed in Berlin and continued making kino like metropolis.

>>221211636
>>221211575
>muh odyssey had black ppl

It's a fantasy you dumb shits. Thought maybe the cyclops and mermaids would have clued your asses in but clearly I expected too much.

>they'll have blacks in the downfall

I'd pay to go watch it if it would piss you off. But it's completely different from a SPACE OPERA SCI-FI FANTASY. It can have asians, blacks and gays and not be out of place.

>>221211648
Not sure if in the movies but I remember the EU was pretty clear that the Empire was humanocentrist

>>221211648
It’s part of palpatine’s ideology to turn people against each other so they are at each other’s throats instead of questioning his decisions or the mad men like tarkin and Vader he has given authority to. Since the Separatist’ had high populations of aliens and because of Grievous vast war crimes anti alien sentiment was used to justify subjugating them and treating them as second class citizens.

>>221210833
>a child playing with plastic toys could come up with a better story than hollywood can with billions of dollars and state of the art movie technology
I'm imagining the stormtrooper meeting Luke so he can learn about the force and it's pure kino.

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>>221211691
????

>>221211702
Exceptions that proved the rule, Also the EU was often contradictory.

>>221211702
>reformed empire isn’t as cunty as a sith led one
Color me surprised.

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>>221211691
Sorry, what?

>>221211679
thanks for letting me know the Odyssey is woke. I shan't be watching.

>>221208128
My mom likes Andor but my mom's an old nerd that was into the EU so she's used to compartmentalizing things into George's films and glorified fanficiton.

>>221211624
>I can't say it and believe it
It doesn't bother me because I look up the IMDB, see a black person in a cast where they don't fucking belong, and don't watch.
That's what you hollywood retards never seem to fucking get. I will just take my money elsewhere, and you can support your racially inclusive everything all on your own.

Only you can't. Your ability to actually understand film and television is fucking none, you don't even really like this shit anyway, and there are nowhere near enough of you to create a meaningful boycott of any of the stuff I'm actually spending my money on now that I've dropped out of the star wars fandom.

This is the reality your not fucking accepting.
I'M IN CHARGE YOU DUMB SLUT.
Make me happy or fail, those are you options.
You choose fail because you think I'm a racist. That does not hurt ME.

The is no universe in which you get what you want. It's that fucking simple.

>>221211636
Yeah but as the conversation with the other anon shows trying to explain that to people is really fucking hard.

>>221211702
https://starwars.fandom.com/wiki/High_Human_Culture/Legends

>>221206820
women ruined star wars.

>>221211679
>muh odyssey
I dropped that the minute I heard the Elliot Page rumours.
And I'm trans.

>I'd pay to go watch it if it would piss you off
Yeah the movie would flop anyway.

>>221206820
>muh 6 gorillion alderaanians
Just because Tarkin blew up one planet doesn’t mean the entire empire was evil.

>>221211719
>>221211742
>it's got the blacks, eww

lol

>>221206820
Don't worry, AI will make it so anyone can make a film within the next 5-10 years, and im going to make a better sequel, it'll be easy.

>>221211195
moar?

>>221211691
i NEVER got that impression from Star Wars in all media before the prequels (including the prequels)
I do know that, its a very REDDIT liberal position or what you call fanon that has been imposed on the setting to the point Disney started to include it.

The Empire was an Imperial occupying power, authoritarian and militaristic but they never seemed to care about discriminating. To use another example they are kinda like the Combine from Half Life, they are just there as an occupying force telling people to pick up the can.
>>221211698
Palpatine never seemed to be alienphobic on the contrary there seemed to be some sort of alienphilia going on with Palpatine. Hes often accompanied by demonic looking alien allies which was Lucas's way of hinting at his evil and foreignness being a dark sorcerer of a lost alien culture.

>>221211770
i have dindu fatigue

>>221211728
I want SW to be good you dumb shit. I've always wanted that.

Just explain asshole, HOW DOES AN ACTORS RACE MAKE THE MOVIE BAD?

I'm not trying to "hurt" you assclown, I'm pointing out that you are racist and don't like things because of the actors appearance. Not because of anything relevant to the plot or story. You're a dumbass

>>221211691
>>221211716
>le Empire is human supremacist
>it's highest rank members are aliens
make it make sense

>>221211784
>they never seemed to care about discriminating.
You can say that, but the EU disagreed.

Iirc it was a retconn to explain the human-only officer corps and military that we saw in the OT in contrast with the Aliens we saw everywhere in the PT. You can cry reddit if you want but it does add flavor.

>>221207479
Never watched this movie but the "making the entire first hour pointless" is pretty much the same as the "famous code-cracker we spent an entire b-plot looking for betrays the heroes and they make it back to the ship" nonsense of the second movie.

It really highlights the "We need a plot so make shit happen" type of writing approach they used for those films, its baffeling how an entire team of writers couldnt come up with a story that has a direction.

>>221211679
>It's a fantasy
>Why CAN'T Gandalf have a Dodge Charger?!?!

>>221211822
see:
>>221211729

>>221211298
>Our children Must worship a jew

>>221211835
it doesn't really it makes them 2d dimensional and its lazy
>the Empire is le racists!
is weak story telling compared to
>Well they aren't racist so whats exactly bad about them? good question

>>221211847
Why are black people and asians as out of place in a galaxy far far away as a dodge charger would be in lotr?

>>221206820
>retcon the fucking sequels and give the original heroes their happy endings back
If you think that's how anything works then you're beyond help. This shit is all fake, it's make believe fantasy, you can believe whatever you want. If you want the "original heroes" to have ":happy endings" then I suggest you use this thing called "your fucking imagination" and make it so.

Did you give it a try? Did you imagine your surrogate fictional parents staying happily married instead of getting a divorce? Congratulations, what you're imagining is just as real as anything else related to this nonsense.

>>221211770
Yes? They don't belong in ancient Greek Mythology and are only there due to DEI and wokeoid politics towards media. Weird how blacks aren't shoved into the casting when there's an adaptation of the legend of Mulan or some shit.

>>221211808
I already did. Explicitly and clearly, in a step by step manner with no ambiguity. But you don't want to hear it, because that would cause you to reflect on the attitudes you're bringing in and the lenses you're viewing these issues through.

"There is nothing morally wrong about telling a story with an all white cast if that's what the story calls for" if you cannot accept this statement as a simply TRUE, when it is obviously, unquestionably, and nearly axiomatically true, then you're always going to be able to find another excuse to void your own responsibility in creating the culture in which filmmakers are more interested in ticking boxes than making good films.

Stories with only white people in them happen all the fucking time. Literally every day, all around the world, a million little dramas, a million little tragedies, a million little happy endings. There's nothing wrong with that.

But when you make that wrong, then you can't tell stories at all.

>>221206820
Kathleen Kennedy, Bob Iger and Dave Filoni did this

>>221211835
>You can say that, but the EU disagreed.
See:
>>221211716
>>221211702

>>221211856
1. You are taking my word for it and are too lazy to actually look it up

2. "iirc" was actually taken entirely out of my ass and made up on the spot

3. That's just like, your opinion, man.

>>221211822
Mas Amededa and Thrawn are two of Palpatine’s blue friends that he can point to to say the empire is not racist, Sly
Moore’s head game is on point. Everyone wants a bald baddy.

>>221211877
ironically theres a new japanese period yakuza game they are apparently flooding with groids for no reason, because its cool or something lol. rip japan media industry

>>221211895
see:
>>221211729

>>221211898
and his apprentice Darth Maul and so on.

Sheev loved aliens, you could say he had his favourites (all the evil ones)

women and leftists hate male power fantasy, they hate it so much they infiltrated pretty much all hobbyist groups and changed them fundamentally.

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>>221211919
Idk man he’s taking joy in zapping the boy he helped raise.

>>221211910
I don't care about Fanfiction. I care about established elements of the EU.
Thrawn is an established pillar of the EU, and he's a fucking non-human in an extremely high-ranking position in the Empire.
"Chud Order 101: Oppress the non-Humans just like the nazis/drumpf" is not an established pillar of the EU. Nobody's ever heard of that stupid shit.

>>221211885
No you fucking didn't. You described shallow writing and virtue signaling in lieu of storytelling. And then blamed the virtue signaling for the shallow writing WHICH DOES NOT FOLLOW.

There's nothing wrong with brown people in a story. Or Asians in the cast. Or women as the protag. It's about how it's handled and how they're written.


>There is nothing morally wrong about telling a story with an all white cast if that's what the story calls for
>muh morals


I'm talking about WRITING you fucking CLOWN. What in the actual pen fucking shit are you crying about?

>>221211955
yeah its literally libshit reddit headcanon they made up. Though i remember reading Disney writers actually believe that shit.
A case of idiots repeating a lie so much it becomes introduced into a setting.
Too bad there is like zero factual evidence to support it outside of some shit third party (probably disney) comics

>>221211150
I can't believe people told me this show was cool. Glad I never watched it. Looks like peak MCUSlop

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>>221211781
alas.........that all the gungan flick drew.............this a pretty nice pic though..........from "spotty the cheetah"

>>221211955
1. it's the EU

2. Thrawn is a near-human

3. I linked you the relevant EU article

At this point you're just ignoring reality. Sad really. even our old forgotten cast aside stories don't accept your version

>>221211955
The freaking creator of Thrawn established that Thrawn had a tougher time getting to his position because he was blue and has glowing red eyes. It’s also used to highlight how talented he is to reach such heights when there’s so much political resistance in his way.

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>>221211949
He enjoys zapping humans too. Sheev is just a jolly guy all around.

>>221208406
It only works if the remove and retcon the sequel trilogy out of existence

>>221212012
why the fucka you havea dat saved

>>221212015
but theres no express rule or glass ceiling therefore the Empire has no official policy of discrimination

>>221212006
>>221211955
>reddit
>libshit

Rent free

It's not even a new concept, fucking relax guys

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>>221206820
>>Hey why didn't the kids whose parents and older brothers and sisters we insulted are interested in star wars?
>Why didn't the kids ... are interested in star wars?

>>221212012
This is retarded. Gungans aren't mammals.

>>221206820
>You will NEVER be able to replace the OG and Prequel fans. If you want the money, you need to retcon the fucking sequels and give the original heroes their happy endings back
Too late. Carrie Fischer's dead.

>>221212018
Kind of fucked up the Jedi sickos got his own granddaughter to murder him

>>221206820
>>Okay, we got to get new fresh audience for Star Wars even at the expense of the OG fans
See that's where you get it wrong though. These companies think "it doesn't matter how much we change it, these idiots are loyal slop slurpers they'll pay to see anything with the words star wars on it". The problem is that they're mostly right about that for a little while but by then it's already over.
Everything after that is just sunk cost.

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>>221212006
>yeah its literally libshit reddit headcanon they made up
One of the sources is from 1991...You ppl are so sad.

>>221211955
>"Chud Order 101: Oppress the non-Humans just like the nazis/drumpf"
This is a plot point in KOTOR. Sith ban "alien" races.

>>221212049
Recast her, recast Hamil, recast ford

>>221211973
>No you fucking didn't.
Yeah actually I did.
You just don't want to hear it.

You want to pretend like it doesn't matter if a cast member is a diversity hire, but if it doesn't matter then why do it?
It's certainly not making me happy, and you claim not to care, so why the fuck are they doing it?

The answer is you're lying to yourself. And you're not going to be able to understand why hollywood is dying until you stop.
Meanwhile the rest of us can all see that you're lying about your real feelings about this stuff. So you spouting shit about how we're all racist is you wasting your energy, we don't give a fuck what you think, you're never going to be able to make anything that we want to buy anyway. We will just find something else to do and we won't be inviting you.

>>221212037
it is new to people who are fans of the OT. Believe it or not ive had this argument before and the last guy had to really dig to find one throw away line in some 3rd party reference guide for the SW settings that maybe implied they are that way

>>221206820
>will make the IP worthless
If you do nothing with it it will get worthless anyway so why not milk it to death. you're butthurt because you're fan of the franchise but the owners of the franchise care only about the money

>>221212089
Weird how they turned it into a bomb-factory rather than something that makes them money then.

>>221211955
>sheev manipulates core world/mid rim humans to be xenophobic against ayys so they will commit atrocities in his name
I don’t get why you are so buthurt about the empire being humanocentric. Aliens aren’t real.