This is going to bomb and get the entire DCU shitcanned, isn't it?
>>221240304Will struggle to crawl over 200m worldwide
Don't care, will watch for she.
>opening next to Toy Story and Minions>then has to compete with Moanna and Odyssey>projected 40mil opening on a 175mil budget (not including marketings costs LOL)>Superman Legacy doing only okay-ish numbers less than a year earlierYes, this was a bad idea and will undoubtedly lose money.
Man of Tomorrow will be the Hail Mary
>>221240304They're going to fast track batman to the dcu aren't they?
>>221240304BAD MOVIE FOR BAD PEOPLE>>221240475case in point
>>221240304Yes./thread>>221240447It will barely do over 100m. James Gunn will be fired by July from heading DC Studios but will finish Man of Tomorrow.
>>221240563No, he will be fired from that movie at the end of production and replaced by some hired hand. He will go back to Marvel by September.>>221240475End your fucking life. Your parents are begging for you to die, simp.
>>221240304The DCU is one long series of movies bombing and the "franchise" being rebooted.
>>221240563Going to be a really bad Hail Mary when it is packed full of even more characters people don't care about. He is putting all the actors from Lanterns, doing live action versions of the Nazi killing robot, John Cena show stuff, and a bunch of other nonsense into what should just be a Superman movie. Gunn sucks worse than Snyder ever did and that's saying something.
>>221240304Realistically no, clayface will probably make money, superman 2 is the real test.
>>221241056He does not know what he's doing. He has NEVER known what he's doing. He has the job because NO ONE else wanted it, anon. No one. He was the literal last option possible. And look how it turned out. Zazlav 100% used Gunn as a useful idiot to sabotage WB so he can sell it to Ellison.
>>221241074You are mistaken. This will bomb catastrophically and WB will panic and shitcan everything but unlike last time, they will be justified and correct in doing it now. Superman 2 will come out but Clayface will be dumped on streaming to avert any failure. Remember, horror movies are not foulproof. The Mummy bombed this year. Plus, it's capeshit-flavored horror which that fanbase will reject. It's over.
>>221240304>This is going to bombYes>and get the entire DCU shitcannedNot by itself.Clayface is already finished and waiting to release. Lanterns too. Man of Tomorrow is filming at the moment.Supergirl bombing will just put a cap on any new projects entering development. If MoT doesn't flop but everything else does, they'll likely try and do a soft reboot (again) with Gunn demoted to just the lead filmmaker.If MoT flops, they'll go all in on Reeves' Batman and focus on a Batman cinematic universe (new Joker film, Harley Quinn film etc)
>>221241138You are completely and utterly missing the entire context of the current situation, anon: Once Supergirl bombs, and it will, Ellison will scrap EVERYTHING on the spot. He barely got DOJ approval and regulators are still on his case micromanaging every inch of the books. If this bomb drops on WB when they do NOT need it, it'll change everything. Nothing is off-limits. I could see Gunn losing his shit and getting fired from MoT once Ellison wants his head to roll for greenlighting a 200m girlboss movie with an unknown idiot actress.
>>221240990No.After Superman underperformed, they finally put Reeves' Batman sequel into production (claiming that he coincidentally only finished the script right as the lacklustre numbers were revealed). Gunn's gamble was that his Superman film would be such a huge success that he'd be able to cancel Reeves' film or force him to assimilate. That banked on Superman performing better than at least MoS.Now wb is splitting their eggs between the two baskets. Reeves' Batman is already a proven success. The sequel is currently in production. There's no use in potentially sabotaging its prospects by throwing money at a competing Batman film in a cinematic universe no one cares about.
>>221241173I can only assume you're a child with no understanding how Hollywood works.That won't happen. Batgirl being shelved was huge news because that just doesn't happen at that sort of budget.Clayface already has a trailer. You've genuinely got to be an idiot to think they won't release it just because Supergirl bombs. Nevermind the very expensive Superman sequel currently filming.
>>221241203What a fucking mess. Even after Joker made a billion despite being a shitty Taxi Driver ripoff, they STILL wanted to do the cinematic universe gimmick. WB's board room all deserve Colombian neckties.
>>221241243And you're a skullfucked cocksucker who can't read. I said dump it on streaming, not scrap it entirely. The rest will also happen. They need to save up on all the costs they can after Supergirl puts a crater through their books.
>>221241271If you actually think they'll dump a $250m Superman film on streaming because a single Supergirl film flopped, then you're not worth responding to.
>>221241290I WAS TALKING ABOUT CLAYFACE. LEARN TO FUCKING READ.
>>221241290he meant clayface..
I'm ok with the DCU dying, you shouldn't have peacemaker's sex and murder binges next to superman who's supposed to be squeaky clean wholesome hope man and be expected to watch both to understand the sequel of the other Honestly really don't get how checkmate of all things got WB to sign off on a gunn universeAs much as people don't like it marvel having a central tone saves it from being a fucking mess like the DCU is and will continue to be if it somehow lives past this
>>221240304Its all going to synderchads plan.Gunn saw the writing on the wall with the Box office which is why he rushed in Superman 2.I haven't got anything personal against Gunn, but he's no Snyder.Dawn of the dead was a great films. the first GOTG was great. Burnbright i enjoyed. Everything else he's done is just slop. easily forgettable. He wont lose any sleep, he's already won, he's got a huge pay packet for doing all this shit. Considering he was almost terfed out for his tweets, he's done alright.All of the movies he's figured for DC is BS. Clayface might get some traction, horror is in. I think Lanterns will be good.But the big movies are DC's bread and butter and Supergirl was never going to cut it. He should have done a lanterns, a Martian manhunter or Green Arrow movie, Or spin offed Justice league dark. DC is fucked anyways. Wonder Woman is the only unique female a list character. Supergirl should never have gotten her own movie, she's just not that big of a character and shs' basically superman. So for three years running you'll have a "super" movie. it's overkill. Snyder will be back and it will be The Dark Knight returns that will get the nod.Capeshit is dead. I'm just waiting for Secret Wars. Its the crossover that got me into comics ( GenX) and i'll be happy with that. DC has lost. It cant create a universe foundation based on these characters. it will be 15-20 years before it gets a another shot, by then people won't care, gen x wont and no ones having kids so the next generation wont either. It will still make money with one shots like the dark knight returns, but that big bag is gone.
>>221241330Even within the Superman movie which is supposed to be about "kindness" Hawkgirl murders the powerless old man. Totally incoherent and bipolar.
>>221241330>Honestly really don't get how checkmate of all things got WB to sign off on a gunn universeREAD:>>221241076>>221241344Gunn doesn't care. Marvel will beg for him back the second he's fired. If anything, he has to be an inside man saboteur.
>>221241357and there's jokes about sex slave harems, pride flags and also the word shit said a lot. that movie was as wholesome and colofrufl as a south park episode. it was also embarrassed to be a comic book movie, not otherwise like shill fucks say.
>>221241311>>221241326see >>221241173>Once Supergirl bombs, and it will, Ellison will scrap EVERYTHINGthen >>221241271>I said dump it on streaming, not scrap it entirelySo do you want to move the goalposts one more time and explain what you actually mean? Or are you just going to seethe and write more dumb shit?
dude please shut tf up that anon blew you tf out
>>221241417>samefagging after being btfocringe, just take the l
>>221240304The character literally NO ONE asked for more of.Seriously, it's like WB has no fucking clue how entertainment works anymore. You CAN NOT make a universe based on boring fucking political statements using ugly renditions of tedious characters no one out of a very small niche wants to watch.the only thing entertaining is watching shit like this fail in real time, and even THAT has gotten boring.
>>221241436>le samefagYou're beyond help.>>221241448Gunn is a pedophile who only interacts with other pedophiles on Threads and makes 200m movies meant for the masses just to appeal to goyimfanlgbtq_23 on social media.
>>221241365Shnen has come off Marvel. The core products will always make money like Spidey and Batman.It will be interesting to see the figures for Doomsday. There has been little lead up ( unlike infinity war) and the movies that had been the leads like FF and Thunderbolts didn't really get the traction they should have. Plus inflated salaries for the big players have to wonder how much Box Office profit that will actually make.
>>221241475Sad but true. We should kill him.
>>221240563It performed worse than the first one financially.t.ime traveller
>>221241501He'll wish he were dead once it's found out that those female writers (Ana Noguiera, Christina Hodson) who are given all these DC gigs without ever turning in anything are just his hookups that he pays with WB's money, thus committing fraud. He should run to Marvel before it gets found out.
>>221240563>Man of TomorrowDirect to streaming. Gunn's DCU is just a high budget CW show but with heavy MCU influence.
>>221241542>David's faceI feel sorry for this dude. Your ONE SHOT to play Superman in your life and your director is a Reddit pedophile who makes you play a wholesome chungus Invincible clone instead of an actual Superman. You can fucking FEEL the contempt from his face. That BTS video alone was proof (even though WB has purged it from the internet) that he knows Gunn is a pedophile hack. He told him that there was no chance he'd say that I AM HUMAN speech because it was so cringe but he was paid for.
>>221241542jesusneither of them want to be there>le practical effects in 2026jesus why the fuck not keep costs downway to inflate the budget and make things worsegunn makes these movies just by asking reddit for his every move
>>221241203Why didn't wb put Reeves in charge in the first place instead?
>>221241056>LanternsSurf Dracula Corps is a zero viewer show and these stupid cunts trying to push "YOU NEED TO WATCH ALL OF OUR STREAMING SERVICES" shit into films are why capeshit fatigue is even worse. If I need to watch a season of a TV show to understand your "Summer Blockbuster" you should kill yourself.
>>221241583You're retarded. NO ONE should be in charge of DC. Not Snyder, not Gunn, not Reeves, NOBODY. Cause NONE of these people read comic books and never have. DC should be a brand like any other, like back in the 2000's when any director could pitch an idea and make it, with no universe continuity bullshit.
>>221241607>Hal Jordan is an old dried up toxic white male chud unc>John Stewart is a hung black stud who's good and pure of heart>Carrol Ferris salivates at the mere sight of him and tells him to go get Hal's rings and replace him>Creator: Damon Lindeloflol
>>221241203Accurate
>>221241608>>221241583>ReevesBruce Timm.
>>221240304I remember watching Superman in the theaters and when this bitch showed up in the end I was the only one who gave a slight "oh". A packed theater that did not give a single fuck about this bitch existing.
>>221241608pitch an idea to whom
>>221241608>like back in the 2000's when any director could pitch an idea and make it, with no universe continuity bullshit.When this hairdresser owned the rights to Superman and Batman?
>>221241583He was offered the job and respectfully declined
>>221240304Supergirl should've been a show and The Green Lanterns should've been the movie
>>221240304SOONafter Supergirl and Odyssey both bomball roads will lead to Nolan doing TDK4>>221241642to WB. treat DC not as a singular IP but as a pool of disparate characters and worlds that never have to connect with each other. you can have Batman trilogy, Superman trilogy, JL Dark, maybe Constantine 2, maybe a Swamp Thing movie and a Teen Titans flick all done by different people in their own worlds and styles.>>221241657I'd take Jon Peters over anything and anyone after any day of the motherfucking week. Dead serious.
>>221241608the problem is that Warner wants the Avengers box office so they need the Justice League, and they think that they can't do that shit without half docen of movies before.
>superqueer
>>221241636exact same theater experience. that's fucking sad. she has zero screen presence. a born pleb. but she must've sucked some dick to get here. but will go back to obscurity soon after the opening weekend numbers come in.>>221241691That was true back in the 2010's. Not so true anymore. Slowly, VERY slowly, but surely they'll learn. Id' expect Ellison to immeidately get Kosinski to reboot either Superman or JL right away for a 2030 release.
>Literally haven't gotten a single movie with a girl lead who is just genuinely positive, upbeat and wholesome dealing with unwholesome stuff>Perfect chance to have that and really stand out while respecting the character's roots>uhhh she's a drunk party girl chud lol
>>221241670Smart man. He should form his own studio with Snyder
>>221241703Yes, they should have gone with a full reboot with The Justice League as the first movie and to make spin-offs from there.
>>221241713A Supergirl movie starring Elle Fanning that's abot her going on a peachy girly bubbly adventure throughout the galaxy and wanting to get a boyfriend and being cute and attractive with a classic suit would make a billion easy.
>>221240304Why did Jame Gunn decide to make1) A superhero movie with a female lead2) a character who most people don't care aboutThis isn't peak Marvel anymore where faggots will just go watch the new capeslop out of obligation.
>>221241733>If only they'd thought of that.Fucking writer's strike. It doomed DC for decades.>>221241742Based Ellechad.
>>221241713>a girl lead who is just genuinely positive, upbeat and wholesome dealing with unwholesome stuffThat sounds fucking lame. Like don't get me wrong, the actual film looks shit. But people don't want le heckin wholesome goody two shoes girlscout. Audiences want an actual personality that suffers vulnerabilities, making them relatable. There is actually a middleground
>>221241767>LE HECKIN RELATABILITYPeople like you are why things are this bad. Please do the world a service and commit suicide. Preferably, end your bloodline before you do. You deserve it.
>>221241767that's...literally what the actual movie is, you braindead shill. more reddit relatable slop. kys. goody two shoes characters are based and pure. you fucking evil troglodyte.
>>221241742>Elle FanningShe could be interested in Harley Quinn maybe, for Supergirl I like Isabella Sermon and Mckenna Grace.
Basically I think it's going to be like the snow brown movie from last year>bombs so hard the suits get cold feet and say they're never doing it again>a few months later lilo & stitch (clayface) does so well they instantly bury all of those comments>all is good and well, nobody suspects a thingIf they can make it to man of tomorrow I think they'll be able to solidify themsevles with an audience. Superman [Legacy] was a pretty big risk all things considered and taking into account the titanic level of pushback they've been facing I think they're on a decent track to build up interest in the brand.
>>221241836Yeah she's way too old now. McKenna would be perfect.>>221241842>comparing lilo and stitch to clayfaceclinically insane shill. put a gun to your head.
>>221241713Kryptonians, especially Clark's cousin are not supposed to look like Milly. She is miscast. Same for the actress in the Flash movie.
Who was the genius to put this so close to Toy story, minions, moana
>>221241859I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt that this wasn't bait. Lilo & Stitch from last year, the live action remake. I don't think clayface is going to make anywhere near a billion dollars but it will do well enough to sustain interest.
>>221241884Counter programing to Toy Story for teens/families with older kids. I don't think Minions was slated before Supergirl was.
>>221241884It was either that or releasing closer to Spider-Man, which would steamroll it even worse.
>>221241906You are clinically insane and should blow your brains out. Don't backpedal, you explicitly compared them. More over, you should kill yourself doubly for thinking Clayface maybe not totally bombing will save the DCU. It will not change anything and it's not guaranteed to make money as it's horror-LARPing slop. Just admit you're a pedophile Gunnlover and stop pretending you are some objective observer.>>221241925Yeah, no. Not a single SOUL will look at a movie called Supergirl and do anything but cringe.
>>221241203desu both films were in similar boats. They both faced a lot of pushback for the cast, for the filmmakers, for the proximity to previous iterations. Both movies found more of an audience post-theatrical release and those audiences seem to love the films. Superman was only 100 million away from Batman and that was probably only because of WB's dumbshit attitude to streaming. Both were "disappointing" but Superman was probably moreso since it had a bigger upfront cost. I think it's silly to act like WB thinks either one is "superior"
>>221241884They really didn't have much of a choice. Summer and Winter are the only good times to do capeshit and they weren't gonna do it so close to BND or Doomsday. At this point it probably flops theater wise no matter what but if it gets good reviews and word of mouth it'll probably do very well on streaming. Time will tell.
Hollywood pedophiles like James Gunn have no conception of the real world in any way shape or form. To him, making a 200m movie based on a character called Supergirl starring an ugly FAS whore is the most logical thing in the world. These people need to be killed.
>>221240304I suppose he will be fired after Superman 2, Warner has no other movie in production from the cinematic universe, Reeves is doing The Batman part 2 and he will be fired after that too.
>>221241767True. The problem here is that it's a movie written by a woman for other women not the fact the character is edgy.
>>221241713>>Perfect chance to have that and really stand out while respecting the character's rootsI suppose they want to show her as maternal figure with the Chinese girl or something, she is playing the edgy babysitter in the movie.
>>221240304Clayface will save it.
>>221241884Who was the genius to greenlight this movie? They should have waited like 2 years>>221241925No nerd is going to watch this, women even less. Tons of kids movies with a lot of demand was never a good idea to pitch againts fucking Supergirl
>>221242284I think Warner had a deal with Gal Gadot and Patty Jenkins to make Wonder Woman 3, that's why Gunn went with this as his female movie.
>>221240304I'll watch it for her.
>>221242337>>221242265Kill yourselves.
>>221242159>le edgy is le good i agree my fellow 4channer!Kill yourself, samefagging Reddit fag.
>>221242352Dude, it's a superhero movie, it's not cinema.
>>221242394>oh no thing i was just defending doesn't matter anymore and its just stupid slop anywayDidn't i tell you to kill yourself you fuck
>>221241815>goody two shoes characters are based and purelmao they fucking suck
>>221240539Why does this movie even have a close to $200m budget in the first place? The trailers don't even look good. Did they blow all their money on that dumbass CGI dog?
>>221241842I doubt Clayface will do *so* well. But I genuinely expect it to outperform Supergirl at this rate
>>221242451>lmao they fucking suck
Star Wars>deadDC>life supportMarvelLife supportIf supergirl and doomsday bomb its fucking over. Do your part by doing nothing and let these franchises fucking rest for 5-10 years
>>221242362Go watch that He-Man movie or some other gay and lame wholesomechungus shit
>>221242506It's pozzed, deconstructive, LE RELATABLE trash just like the goyslop you consume, fucking moron. You will be raped soon.
>>221242468it is a Halloween movie and the budget is really low >45M, but i don't think it will make it.
>>221242007It's not a case of which one wb thinks is superior.Reeves' Batman was awkward. It was made before Gunn took over. There's a whole clusterfuck of history with its production.Gunn then wanted that Batman for his DCU. But Reeves pushed back. Gunn then wanted Reeves' Batman cancelled but he was unproven. WB wasn't going to risk destroying something successful for something unproven, though they were more Gunn than Reeves. Then The Penguin, which started production before Gunn took over, was released to massive acclaim and viewing numbers. Meanwhile Creature Commandos flopped.So Gunn lost any potential leverage to oust Reeves.But Gunn convinced the higher-ups that they needed a unified cinematic universe. Superman was his chance to prove himself correct.If Superman had been a huge success, Reeves' sequel would've been 'postponed' or forced to assimilate.If it had been a huge flop, they would've just scrapped his cinematic universe and the other projects would be standalone.But it was middling, so we're in this awkward inbetween zone.
>saves the DCU
>>221242539WB's latest horror flicks have underperformed. Clayface will not do well. Lee Cronin's Mummy tanked. Horror is not bulletproof by any stretch of the imagination.>>221242559I think Reeves survives but Gunn is over as soon as this summer. It'll just go back to being standalone. But no JL, like others anons said. Nobody cares about the team and its lore. I bet Kosinski or McQ will be hired to do a SUperman reboot by the end of this decade to undo Gunn's Pedoman.
>>221242539Horror audiences show up more than capeshit audiences these days. Plus, Joker showcased that there's a large market of disillusioned millennials/zoomers who want gritty r-rated capeshit.I don't think it will make a billy. But $300m-$400m worldwide isn't out of the question.
>>221240304why are they trying to make her this cool party chick? i dont really know her lore but feel like she was a mary sue squeaky clean type of character like clark
>>221242592It's absolutely out of the question. Joker is fucking Joker and had Joaquin Phoenix and Robert de Niro in it. Who the fuck is Clayface and mostimportantly who the fuck is Thomas Rhys-Harries or whoever the fuck. It's not going to bomb but it won't do well either. It'll be middling.
everyone seems to have forgotten that WB hates fans. blames bots, blames directors, blames actors, blames russia. infact everyone expect for its own shitty studio execs. They dug their own grave
>>221242755i sincerely doubt WB will exist as an entity in a year from now. folding their facilities and IP into paramount and then doing away with the rest is what ellison will do.
>>221242783yep, same thing Disney did with Fox
>>221242592>Joker showcased that there's a large market of disillusioned millennials/zoomers who want gritty r-rated capeshitSnyder was too early culturally huh
>>221240304Milly needs more shitty little tattoos. 17 of them aren't enough. Get a tatt that says: Ugly Inside & Out
>>221242783You realize Warner is like 10x the size of paramount? Warner owns half the internet in the US.
>>221241344Superman is entering the public domain soon-ish, we might get a cinematic universe detached from WB's retardation, problem is by the time the comics get to the good stuff the actor who will play superman in the first public domain movie will have aged out of the role.
>>221241074>clayface will probably make moneyIt might be good and even a critical success. It might even manage a profit due to its lower budget if it has one, but no I don't think it'll be what WB needs to hold up a broken tentpole
>>221244059They'll just trademark the S dude. It's the same thing Disney did with all it's public domain stuff, just turned everything into a trademark and sued for trademark infringement.
>>221244059>Superman is entering the public domain soon-ishNot in any way that matters
>>221242578Too short
>>221241383I don't remember any pride flags
>>221244156>tfw no power top Power Girl
>>221244355The world isn't ready for Bat Bottom.
>>221244156>>221244355tfw you realize this is destiny fortold in a thousand fanfics.
>>221241056Gunn made a billion dollar movie three times in a row from chaeacter that you mever heard about. He's so above Snyder it isn't even funny you retard.
>>221244156Disgustin tr00n, kys
>>221244506Unironically, the GOTG movies are better than the comics too.
>>221244548A terf's favorite sex dream.
>>221244567The stories about female superheros people actually watch.
>>221240304From the trailers that I have watched it looks good enough to watch it on streaming. I wouldn't pay 10€ to watch it on the theater but I would watch it on streaming. It's true that there have been prettier actresses playing Ssupergirl before but Milly Alcock isn't that ugly as many say and I think she looks cool and tough.
It's not too likely but it's definitely possible that Doomsday performs weaker than expected and along with the stillborn DCU studios may finally decide to stop investing in capeshit outside of Batman and Spider-Man then at long last cinema will heal
>>221240304>after failing to make a DC cinematic universe for 10 years and in the midst of capeshit fatigue so bad Marvel movies are bombing, we are going to reboot the cinematic universe instead of focusing on solo movies and this will work just because Bravo Gunn
>>221244671>At long last cinema will endWithout capeshit successes to keep cinemas open, and obviously nothing to replace them, there won't be features any more.
>>221244673>capeshit fatigue>definitely nothing to do with the fact they tried to replace all the main characters with racebent/genderbent versions of themselves while filling the writers rooms with a bunch of feminists and activists who hate comic book movies almost as much as they hate the people who watch them.
>>221244671What a retarded thing to say. Capeshit didn't replace anything it drew new people to cinemas. It dying will just put the final nail into the the cinema coffin.
>>221240304Completely miscast and nothing like how Kara should be.
>>221244764You're right. The spic who can't act never belonged there.
>>221244764Flash Supergirl is literally the worst Supergirl ever put to film. Has nothing tondo with the character.
>>221244801>>221244804I'm talking about both Sasha and Milly. They should not have been given the role.
>>221244801>>221244804That is non-binary superperson chud. Get it right.
>>221244801none of the pigskins do either
>>221244857You could argue for Laura because her acting was meh and so was the writing. Helen did solid for what she had to work with and Melissa was never once the problem with that terrible show aside from the occasional overacting during serious and emotional scenes.Nobody can make an actual judgement on Milly yet except those who've seen the movie.
hopefully
>>221244764Who's the villain in the new movie?
>>221240304I hope so. Not paying for this film.
>>221241713>Bearded YouTuber take
