>that embarrassing month where the 'net pretended like this messy schlock was "kino" because of "aura"
>>221241165Baldwin IV was kino thoughbeit
Why do the Templars always get depicted as evil when they were surprisingly tolerant of muslims.
>>221241165Just like irl it's all vibes and aura
>>221241283Baldwin I is the true kino, just like the first crusade is far more interesting than the third
>>221241165>Muslims good Christians bad movie made by Europeans and AmericansWas this one of the earliest signs of things to come?
>>221241165thats just zoomers being zoomers, kingdom of heaven was discussed on here long before it caught on on tiktok
>>221241313The French king destroyed them and their reputation in the 14th century and while they were mostly innocent, they never recovered
>>221241313Nigga, they’re literally responsible for Freemasonry
>>221241313They were homo Satanists
>>221241313They were cryptokike bankers. Good riddance.>Muh poor soldiers of Christ and Solomon temple My ass.
>>221241461>>221241463These have zero actual evidence. The king of France just wanted their money because the Templars were essentially a bank with some of the wealthiest agricultural lands in Europe, and after the crusades those rich farms had no purpose other than to generate fat stacks, so the king took it and said the Templars worshipped a demon with no historical basis because of a single letter because one dude spelt "Muhammadan" wrong.
>>221241165>Mudslime seethingKill yourself sand nigger
>>221241463Why is that dude wearing a tuxedo during the crusades?
>>221241397>le jew le loves le muslims for some reason even tho le muslim le hates le jews holy polcodedgo back to your brownturd containment board
>>221241313because they strayed from the path of Christian jiha- holy war into money lending.>>221241515>because of a single letter because one dude spelt "Muhammadan" wrong.tell me more and answer me this.did they practice usury in their money lending? i can't find an answer.
>>221241549He's the homo
>>221241549It's some schizo 19th century anti-mason illustration made by people who hate masons because they believe in things like fraternity and neoplatonic ideals. What's funny is the Freemasons who larp as Templars are one of the sects of Freemasons where you HAVE to be Christian to be in it. Standard Craft Masonry is incredibly boring unfortunately.
>>221241515>The king of France just wanted their money because the Templars were essentially a bankKing expels Christian bankers :|King expels Jewish bankers :O
>>221241563>did they practice usury in their money lending? i can't find an answer.I don't actually know. I've read several books about the Templars and the Crusades and no book can really tell you much. The Templars were a secret society. They intentionally left no paperwork. All the info we have of them comes from the interactions people had of them from outside the order and the battles they fought in as knights. They were extremely protective of their membership.
>>221241165Honestly i want to like it because Templar knights are based and there are not many good movies or tv shows about them but it was kind of a lacking film back in the day. No Alexander tier but nowhere near Troy or Gladiator either.
>>221241619they sound very jewish
>>221241610I'm not a mason, my dad nearly was but he became disinterested. Craft masonry is essentially a gentlemans club and there are no secrets because it's all freely available to see. Once you get to Master Mason then you can join the various other lodges, some are more interesting than others. There are ones for Neoplatonists, for example, that base themselves on Hellenic secret mystery cults. Very philosophical and open minded.
>>221241671How many dicks did your dad have to suck during the initiation
>>221241549Read the file name, retard.
>>221241515There was just no place anymore for the Templars. The Holy Land was long lost and Templars mostly chilled collected money from various enterprises and lands they were given across the decades. They weren't finding nobody anymore and couldn't be bothered to go east like Teutons
>>221241870>The Holy Land was long lostThe Holy Land had fallenMillions had to die
>>221241870I think the Templars found work in Acre with the Knights Hospitaller and the Teutonic Order fighting the Ottoman Turks but the damage was done. After the Frankish Kingdoms fell the power and wealth of the Templars made no real sense. The Teutons and Hospitaller had real land and so their power was permanent. The Templars were spread everywhere. Like every thing, all idealist groups always fall to cold hard materialism.
>>221241515you fell for the propagandait had much more to do with them controlling the information flow from east to west and vice versa
>>221241619I mean that sounds evil as fuck. A secret society of bankers, sworn to a military mission that they have no intention of even trying to fulfill?
>>221241921The Teutonic Order started a fairly large and powerful country after one of the Polish princes invited them to settle in and subdue the Prussians (one of the biggest blunders in history btw). Templars, on the other hand, had assets all across the Western Europe, mostly France and England so without Philip interfering they'd just pass into obscurity
>>221242008>sworn to a military missionTheir mission was to protect pilgrimage routes. The reason they became like a bank was because Christian pilgrims often got looted by bandits on the trek to Jerusalem. The Templars eliminated the need to carry physical money. Say you were English, you could deposit your real money at a Templar building in London and a letter would be sent off declaring you should receive X amount of money. The letter would reach Jerusalem before you and all you would have to do is deposit the money at Temple Mount. The Templars were morally all over the place. Neither greedy nor entirely good natured, because they found ways of making profits through this to fund their military campaigns.
But Christ is King... all the based crusader xitter accounts from South America can't be wrong...
>>221242844The more you read about history the more you come to the conclusion that most organised religions are a mess of contradictions. I'm not even trying to be a snarky athiest. I spent years going down a weird spiritual path where I didn't know if I wanted to be Catholic or Eastern Orthodox. I can't find it within me to commit myself to either because both have many spiritual, scriptural and traditional contradictions. The papacy has gone through a lot of controversial periods and for a while the Orthodox Church was essentially ruled by the Byzantine Emperor, who saw himself as equal to the Patriarchs, combining a very worldly political power with a spiritual one which made it easier to destroy the sects of Christianity he saw as a threat to his reign.
>>221241397Saladin was a real nigga and deserves the praise.
>>221241165Aura was hot as fuck and General Klytus was a fun character.
>>221241165Why do you torment me with an Eva Green movie anon? WHY?
>>221241313>>221241463I'm surprised that a hollywood film would depict them as badguys. Aren't there many actors in hollywood who are a member? Wtf?
>>221243939Maybe it's because that myth is total bullshit?
>>221243958whatever dude
>>221241165 This has become an interesting talk about secret societies, but I'm interested in anyone who wants to support or refute the OP's claim. >that embarrassing month where the 'net pretended like this messy schlock was "kino" because of "aura"WELL PEOPLE?????
>>221241165ed norton was an embarrassment as usual, otherwise kino in the less chopped version.
>i know i'll whine about some gay shit on 4chan to feel somethingOP, whats goin on big guy? life got you down?
>>221244041What was so bad about his performance? He sounded pretty good. Was it just Norton or the movie in general. I'm trying to probe as I want to hear why everyone or some people hate this film.
>>221243999I don't respond to stupid bait questions
>>221244098>I don't want to partake in a thread but still post in it anyway.Then fuck off faggot! Zigger!
>>221244088all ed norton performances have been equally shit since like 97~ but the rest of the casting was flawless and more than pulled their weight.
>>221244152Thank you. I like your opinion. I push back at Norton as I thought his Baldwin was sympathetic and wise like a neon Mr. Miyagi. Costumes were great. Cinematography was great. I like Eva Green. But the problem with her is, infatuation makes all the movies she's in an "Eva Green catches your eye film"But was there anything other than Norton that you feel was the weakest link? Story wise and movie wise?
>>221244265the prologue bit in town is a bit off tonally, kind of over the top. could have aligned better with the film's themes.
>>221244312I don't know what it is. Like I said, love Eva Green, but I just can't finish the film. I can't watch it straight for some reason. Legend I can watch easily on repeat. The Prometheus films I can watch easily (despite everyone trashing those). KoH however, I just had trouble.
>>221244340yeah well i dont know any heavier drama films that i could watch on repeat. it's not a "fun" watch but neither would i follow any director and think all his works would be equivalent (even without him being retarded half the time)
>>221244388Okay, Troy was the badass of the bunch. Even Luc Benson's The Messenger, as much as that was bullshit that trashed Joan of Arc, it was a fun ride. First Knight was freaking Cool. Excaliber too, but First Knight just had a light about it. Those are repeat watches. It's a club that I can't put KoH in though.
>>221244441definitely not like those movies, no. not sure what other movies fit the tone KoH has going for it outside some samurai stuff.
>>221244477>>221244388Good doubles. One thing was the whole pander to muslims shit. There was no real danger. Saladin was depicted as noble, and in a way the protags were veiled antagonists.(?)Didn't work. I can watch it as an Eva Green film, but I can see one where she is more prevalent than in this one if I need the Eva fix. I wonder though would it be cooler if Orlando Bloom was the same Legolas character tone in this film. Maybe then.
>>221244559It was a battle between two honorable chivalric people with mostly shared goals and dishonorable shits fucking over the whole holy land. The fall is inevitable from the very start and nobody can stop it. Pretty bleak.
>>221241165my biggest problem with this movie is the incredibly modern flavor of cynicism towards religion expressed by the main character. he feels like a person from today transported back in time rather than a person from the period
>>221244598Hmm...one of the more interesting critiques of the protagonist that I've read. What did you feel about the others?
>>221241165Nobody who praises this film has actually watched it. They saw TikTok edits of Baldwin and Saladin and concluded the movie is le ebin based Deus Vult crusader kino. In fact, it's a complete mess of a film that has nothing to do with the real history of the Third Crusade (It's pretty much like Braveheart where the filmmakers made up everything) and is instead a bunch of preachy left-wing garbage.
>>221244674See now this is the kind of stuff I come to /tv/ for. An honest review where he peeled back the veneer of all the hype and talk. Agree or disagree, this is spot on in many cases. Good job anon
>>221244598i dont fault the cynicism too much because they did handle it in a very blunt way in the beginning and then never mentioned it again. it wasn't handled well, just handled. dont know if some retard peasant would be more in awe of jerusalem than the entire road there we didn't even really experience. he isn't a pilgrim though, thats "okay"
>>221241461>Freemasonrynothing wrong with Freemasonry, don't buy the slander put out by the Church
>>221244903Worshiping Lucifer at the highest degree seems alarming anon. Anti-Mason party was formed in the US for a reason.
>>221241414They promoted homosexuality with knights doing gay shit with each other.
>>221242084Creating decentralized banking isn't a great way to make them sound less evil anon.Hey what happened to all the money of those pilgrims who gave up all their money in London and never made it to Jerusalem?
>>221245477what's so bad about Lucifer?Can you tell me who he even is?
>>221245477>Anti-Mason party was formed in the US for a reason.because so many founding fathers and presidents were masons?
>>221245714This triggers every single mason for some reason. And please don't tell us you have secret covert esoteric knowledge on the cosmic asshole who was stated as such by angels, men, God Himself, etc. >>221245868Because you had control over what's supposed to be a free Republic, while murdering a man who exposed?
>>221244598Lots of historical fiction movies have this problem >Claudius says he's writing a book for future generations to read and stares directly at the camera
>>221241165I liked it, for me it's the part where the main character knights all the townspeople it's heckin epic
>>221246265Not a Mason, and I don't even claim to have any special knowledge about who Lucifer is. Problem is, hardly anyone seems to. People just assume "Satan", "the Devil", and "Lucifer" are one entity, in spite of this not really being defined anywhere.Plus, the whole of their being some absolute antithesis to God, who is pure evil, and is responsible for all of the evil in the world, is also not in the Bible. Whatever the Bible is referencing when it references "Satan" is likely something else entirely. I think the accepted modern idea is it simply means "opponent", and there were many "Satans", but not necessarily a Satan.
>>221246446satan is the term for enemy. Devil, Lucifer, that Red Dragon, are all interchangeable. Revelations shows this clearly. No one reads in favor of googling esoteric shit as if they're more informed than anyone else. There are few times were different demonic hierarchic are mentioned such as Apollo, the Prince of Persia, or the Prince of Greece. As for your antithesis claim, what does the Lord say about it? What do the saints and prophets say of it? satan was and never will be God's equal, even though he desires so in his heart to be like the most high. You're only stating half truths to throw in confusion.
>>221246545just seems like the Church kind of makes things up, and interprets selectively.No one really knows what a lot of this stuff was referring to originally, because it's so old, and so removed from the European context.
>>221246545That is the christian retcon Trying to "harmonize" obviously contradicting elements to hide the obvious fraud of your jew cultIn the OT satan is gods employee who does his dirty work
>>221246623This is not the star wars lore anon. >>221246655>your jew cultThe irony in your post reaches new bounds. >In the OT satan is gods employee who does his dirty workThe New Testament and Old Testament are not different continuities. satan is still a banished entity from his old office. He only obeys the Lord because God is not one to be messed with. >>221246446>>221246655>People just assume "Satan", "the Devil", and "Lucifer" are one entity, in spite of this not really being defined anywhere.Literally calls the devil and satan one individual. The great dragon was hurled down—that ancient serpent called the devil, or Satan, who leads the whole world astray. He was hurled to the earth, and his angels with him. - Rev 12:9referencing angels:“How you are fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! How you are cut down to the ground, You who weakened the nations! - Isaiah 14:12When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy? - Job38:7
>>221241165I loved everything about it desu, except orlando bloom. And it isnt even that I dont like bloom or particularly disliked his performance even. This film could of been epic like gladiator, all the ingredients are there but it just falls short but the cinematography and cast (outside of blooom) are apex kino
>>221241313the templars were always barbarian mercs who worked for their jew master bankers
>>221246778so Lucifer "fell from heaven" is "the son of the morning", and "weakened the nations".This means what to me?
Only straight up homosexuals don't think this movie wasn't kino sovl. No need to seethe fag
It works when it shows virtue and falls apart when its being mopey and cynical. It's frustrating to watch, because its good in some parts, and other parts just ruin the movie. It would have been kino if it was Gladiator: Crusader edition where Orlando Bloom played the perfect Christian knight to Russell Crowe's perfect Roman general. Too bad Ridley Scott was a faggot who just wanted to mope about the Iraq war.
>>221241515This.Ignore everyone else itt, this nigga has read a book.French king tortured the sheep herders and book keepers the templars left to manage their land and stock while they protected christian pilgrams. These men were not battle monks or fighters, they were abused by the French king and they made false confessions to end the pain.They were NOT tolerant of Muslims and put them to the sword many times more often than they traded for ransom.They died in vast numbers, many obediently walked to their own execution (burning at the stake).The fact that insane schizo faggots piss on them and still believe king faggot of France when there is a mountain of evidence to prove that the templars were good men and suffered at the hands of a tyrant thief faggot bully jew goes to show how absolutely brain-dead they really are.Especially these faggot "born again" middle life christcucks with skeletons in the closet. They seem to love templar bashing because it keeps their own history from being examined too closely.One of the most pathetic things about christcucks is how they handle the templar stories. If theyre negative brained towards templars, you can safely disengage because you are talking to a baiting cunt or a stupid fuck.If they show some respect you might have a clean thinking wrinklebrain that is worth your time and might even educate you. Lucky.
>>221241313because they were White, yes, that's it.
>>221241165guy was based. movie was not.
>>221241515>>221247263this should be a movie.France must be destroyed!
>>221241671based. write a movie about freemason zionists destroying france to avenge the crusaders.
>>221247324>>221247497Most of us don't belong to fraternal orders anon and don't blindly hate the french. Please don't involve us in your quest for revenge.
>>221243958what u mean? many hollywooders are satanical, ghey and love muslims. not the templars of cose.
>mudshits
>>221247532thou coward!
>>221242896that literally proves what God said, humans can't govern themselves.
The Director's cut is kino. OP is probably a theatrical cut hooplehead.
>>221247563>regular people say no>make freemasons and other fraternal orders fight their own wars and battleswin win all around.
>>221241165only midwits overhype ridley scott movies
>>221247559>muh animepedo safe racist fotm
>>221249173>SAAR!
>>221250044Whatever you say grandmaster centaur wizard paladin elf troll of the Ass-craft of the devil's asshole.
Given current track record, I'm almost positive crusades were just da joos inciting christians to wage war on the moslems so they either destroy them or destroy themselves, or both.
Ever since the early 19th century and the novel The Talisman the English have habitually glazed Saladin and engaged in weird, needless contrition rituals the Crusades. Nobody in the middle east even remembered Saladin or cared that much about the Crusades until the English told them they should still be mad about it (forget all the shit Muslims did in Europe okay) and that Saladin was the wisest leader to ever live.They should just forever shut up about the whole topic, frankly.
>>221241165OP is brown
>>221247589the bible says if you accept jesus you are not capable of sinning anymore how did that turn out
>>221246778>satan is my enemy>also satan takes orders from me apparently he deceives people I tell him to, he harms people I tell him to>we even take bets sometimesthis doesn't make sense to anyone with a brain
>>221250687You never read the bible and can only post complete drivel. >>221250699None of that was implied at all in that post. Your ilk literally worships lucifer at the 33rd degree. You're no one to call someone senseless.
>>221250742>he doesn't know his own jew book1 John 3:6the fact christians still sin means your entire religion is horseshit lol>in b4 it just means habitual sin yeah how about all your priests and pastors that continuously offend lol
>>221250742You literally worship the father of demons and father of lucifer lol you stupid diet jew
>>221250886>diet Jew>jews spend every waking moment seething about our existence >spend billions upon billions slandering our GodI don’t know why anyone would argue theology on 4chan, but this alone shows you who you’re dealing with. Christianity is the antithesis to the corpse calling itself “Judaism” these days.
>>221250879>>221250886Ironic that you call others vulgar and profane, yet you blaspheme God with the very breath He has given you. It's disgraceful. You're going to hell friend. I hope all the esoteric bullshit that they fed you, where you thought you were somehow superior to the average vulgar and profane person is worth it. Hopefully one day only your ilk will fight their own wars instead of getting the vulgar and profane to act as cannon fodder for the ones you create. >the fact christians still sin means your entire religion is horseshit lolRight now you're just doing flaming comments. None of it makes any sense. It's not a rebuttal, it's just you going "The fact that the color red exists means Christianity is no"RuZZian Ziggers have more class than you.
>>221250959lol you have no idea what you are talking aboutchristians and christian policies donate billions to israel yearlyyou're their goodest goy that even if they spit on you still think they're gods chosen
>>221241313>they were surprisingly tolerant of muslimsYou say that like it's a good thing
>>221250959I think what you're trying to do is to be an apologist and distance yourself from Jews to appease a troll. It's unnecessary. Christianity and the New Testament could have been written by the Chinese, that anon which you are responding to wouldn't care, he'd still flame and complain. He's going to hell with that filthy mindset. To hate God is one thing. To hate God and then be arrogantly thinking you're superior to Him, is even worse.
>>221250995>blah blah more empty threats from a cultistreminder jesus declared he would come back in the apostles lifetimes and failed lol
>>221251018but it isn't written by the chinese. it's written by jews>you need to worship a rabbi>you're evil>any non-jewish culture is evil and pagan>you should allow jews into europe>bless those who bless israel>you need to put jews in charge of usury and central banking>gods ultimate plan is jews enslave you so the magic rabbi can come backif you don't realize this is an obvious psyop you're hopeless
>>221241313Because white man bad and christianity bad but all the rest can do no wrong, especially the religion of peace that totally does not involve terrorism of any kind today
>>221241515The Norman treasure the king was after was never found. The Teutons and king Hákon of Norway hid most of the men and treasure including the library of esoteric texts they had gathered, part of which Hákon sent with his friend Snorri Sturluson to Iceland to be translated away from prying eyes. Snorri tried to subvert Hákon's plans to subjugate Iceland and Hákon had him murdered in his home in Reykholt where part of the treasure is still buried. A copied compilation of the most controversial texts, the black magic grimoire Rauðskinna resurfaced 400 years later and was used by bishop Gottskálk the cruel to dominate most of Iceland. 30 years after his death the last Catholic bishop was executed.
>>221241313Because if christian had the holy lands, another tribe wouldn't have them today
>>221241165I was just thinking today I should watch this, theatrical or directors cut?
