I’m very late but this is kino. Just finished ep 8 of the return and this might be my favorite show now. I’d never watched anything Lynch has done before but now I’m going to watch it all.
I hope you aren't watching it on your phone.
>>221252625Nope. Just posting on my phone. I got the blu ray set. In fact the set has a bonus 4K disc for the pilot and episode 8 of the Return but it took a shit for some reason so I had to watch on the blu ray
>>221252599k
>>221252599Congrata. The Return is kino.
>>221252823Just was hoping for some discussion. What are your thoughts on it
>>221252599On episode 11 and not enjoying it as much as the first two seasons so far. It's still exceptionally good TV but lacks a lot of what I loved about the original. I miss the warm glow and filmic grain. I miss seeing a Hollywood director's take on 4:3 framing, with Lynch being an absolute master of composition owing to his talent as a painter. I miss how surrealism imbued every scene. The original run was quite unique in that he had to appease TV executives and so had to sneak the avant-garde in through the back door of a more digestible serial drama format. The result is you get ordinary scenes and mundane interactions inducing dread and panic by being constantly off-kilter, a shot lingers slightly too long with nothing happening, a musical cue is marginally off beat, a character's reaction is slightly too animated or too subdued for what they're reacting to. Has you feeling like you're just imagining it because you're just watching an ordinary shot of a dude eating some cake or walking a dog. The Return leans more into the explicitly surreal like the black lodge scenes of the original, and the show as a whole is actually more comfortable to digest when it wears its surrealism on its sleave like this.It's that discomfort that I miss. Whenever we get mundane scenes made surreal in S3, it doesn't feel as subtle. It feels like Lynch paying homage to himself, like he isn't trying to hide it anymore but rather knows what he's doing and wants you in on it, you don't get that piercing tension for reasons you can't quite put your finger on. And I'm sure it's not deliberate, but rather a result of Lynch making what he would have wanted to make given full creative control back in the 90s.
>>221253287All that said, one of the changes I do enjoy is the Cooper/Dougie arc. I loved Cooper in the original but I did start to get tired of him being so flawlessly perfect. He's charming, witty, kind, generous, virtuous, competent. Even his flaws are virtues - he relies too heavily on gut instinct for instance, at the expensive of careful judgment - but what does that matter when his intuition is literally always correct? I like Dougie being the elephant in the room that makes the other characters retarded. It's like he only exists when he's on screen, because he couldn't conceivably have any life or interactions between scenes without somebody noticing that something is seriously wrong. I like Lynch taking a juvenile trope like that and exploring the limits of it.
not canon
>>221252599The twin peaks for memes are black coffee and cherry pie, but S3 was the best easily. It's just what 18 eps of lynch doing whatever he wanted, it's goated
>>221253287I agree to warmth of seasons 1/2. But I do like just how dark it has gotten in Return. I’m still hopeful for a happy ending for Cooper even if that seemingly flies in the face of what Lynch is trying to do, I’m selfishly optimistic. But in any case, this will have a lasting effect on me, like I won’t see anything as captivating for a long time.
>>221253287Also agree with the way he made mundane things so ominous in the original series. I still don’t know how I can feel so unsettled by a fucking fan in a stairway
You didn't actually experience The Return, as the zeitgeist has changed since it originally aired, drastically altering the viewing experience. Sorry kid.
>>221252599Good for you. You got a lot of cool Lynch stuff to watch. Lost Highway will always be my personal favorite.
>>221252599Start with Blue Velvet, it's kino as heck.
