Worse than the biggest commercial bomb in history of Hollywood is impressive, albeit with the smaller budget. Bravo, Gunn!
>you know what audiences like? stupid drunk whores who don't even show their bodiesDo they though?
Snyderbros are faggots
>>221258399I don't trust any news that doesn't come from cosmicbook.news, thank you very much.
>>221258399>no black people>shillbots hate it
>>221258441The movie is written by a woman and it's made for women in the male-dominated genre.
>>221258515>made for womenwomen don't watch capeshit
Meanwhile Spider-Man. Before Penske media shills will start excuses about superhero fatigue.
>>221258399Good morning sir.
>>221258515It's made for comic book fans by comic book fans. So not you.
BRING BACK MY HOBO DADDY
>>221258558>best presales in five yearsOh, it's that bad is it? Five years ago was covid.
>>221258562>>221258562>It's made for comic book fans by comic book fans.Just like the Marvels.
>>221258599No Way Home got $1.9 billion in 2021.
>>221258399Listen bud I could give a fuck how much money it makes or whatever, I'll be there watching it opening night because I want Milly to wrap her legs around my neck and let me eat her pussy like a feedbag while I go about my day. Since that's never gonna happen I'll just have to enjoy her films.
>What a way for James Gunn to squash all the momentum built up by “Superman,” which debuted to $125M last summer, and had a budget only slightly higher than “Supergirl.” Gunn assured us that “Superman” cost only a little over $200M, while “Supergirl” reportedly carries a $175M budget. That means the breakeven point for the Craig Gillespie-directed DCU film would likely be around $435M worldwide.>What surprises me most is that a studio actually believed not only that a “Supergirl” movie warranted a $175M budget, but also that it could somehow turn a profit. In what world is Supergirl worth that kind of budget?
>>221258562She will never fuck you.
>>221258715No one will ever fuck you :^)
>>221258731>:^)Nice for you to leave the troon hieroglyph for "I'm totally not mad, sisters, I swear I'm not fuming", so that we know I've rattled you.
>>221258639Which would be the "presales 5 years ago" in question. >>221258624Ooh Jewbots are big mad now.
>>221258762>kvetchingWhat happened to the bots tho?
>>221258399
>>221258762:o)
>>221258762u mad? :^D
>>221258399Hollywood is dying and I am so here for it.
The movie was shot in the UK with 30% government tax credit, so we will know the budget when Forbes will publish it.
>>221258798Woke is dying. This movie kills it. That's why they're trying to bury it.
>>221258599In five years, not five years ago. Come on now
>>221258798this, I just want to watch woke hollywood burn.
>>221258851Nigger the headline is hollywood doublespeak for >Spiderman Brand New Day presales have not surpassed the Spiderman No way home presales but we're spinning it positively anyway. Babbies first time reading the trades or something?
>>221258888Supergirl has an all white cast.
>>221258704superkike never had legitimate momentum
>>221258911I'm more angry at women than I am blacks because no one will have sex with me
>>221258399Will Our /Lois/ make a cameo at least?
>>221258537And Hollywood will never learn this lesson
>>221258562Its not. Nothing is ever made for fans. Its made for what they think is the largest possible target auidience. Turns out no one likes supergirl when you have a monkey as the main actor.
>>221258925Poor little gurpreet.
>>221258911> Supergirl has an all white cast.In what world is Jason Momoa considered white you retard?
>>221258562Trump’s friend Ellison bought WB but don’t stop sucking Ellison’s cock.
>>221258911Milly is queer though.
>>221258925>I'm new hereNobody is angry at blacks you fucking retard. We're angry the Jews won't stop inserting them into shit they don't belong. So unless you wanted Hunter Shaefer to play supergirl, this movie kinda needs a girl in it. >>221258969This one is. Because Gunn knows where the actual money is. The question is can he convince the money to come back after a decade of being traumatized by Marvel.
>>221259003Agreed. Anybody who would hire Jason Momoa to be in their movie is a faggot.
>>221258399Shouldn't Wonder Woman be their first superheroine movie? No one's gonna watch Supergirl
>>221258537Yes they do. Single women don't. Probably because when a woman gets into genre, they find a fella pretty fast.
>>221259044I'm angry at everyone because no one will have sex with me.
>Supergirl” reportedly carries a $175M budget. That means the breakeven point for the Craig Gillespie-directed DCU film would likely be around $435M worldwide.what? wasn't the usual breakeven number double the budget? how did they calculate $435 million
>>221259003Earth. >>221259020Okay. >>221259029So? "Stop putting niggers in literally everything" was the demand. They've acquiesced. Finally.
>>221259044>This one isIf it was, they wouldn't be adapting a story written by Tom King, one of the worst DC writers in existence.
>>221259069Then troon out and let boomers rail you behind their wives back.
>>221258911You're forgetting about the little filipino girl that Supergirl is taking care of the entire movie.
>>221259083>They've acquiesced. Finally.In the scene released where they showed Lobo, a bunch of black people were not taking Lobo seriously.
>>221258399>Written by>Ana Nogueirahow the fuck does this happen
>>221259097It's literally the lore accurate version of supergirl, a complete turnaround from CW wokeslop, and setting up the cannon Braniac as the BBEG for the end of phase 1. AND IT HAS AN ALL WHITE CAST!
>watching capeshitIs for faggy manchildren but I can see the appeal>watchin capeshit made for womenNow this is pure retardation.
>>221259126she's apparently writing Wonder Woman and Teen Titans too
>>221259134>It's literally the lore accurate version of supergirlIt isn't.The CW show was waaay more accurate.
>>221259109Are phillipinos niggers now? No! What we mean by an all-white cast is STOP PUTTING NIGGERS IN LITERALLY EVERYTHINGAnd they have.>>221259120>a bunch of [uncredited] black people were not taking Lobo seriously.I can imagine what comes next and it's kino.
>>2212590762.5 times its budget is the Hollywood rule of the thumb.
>>221259156>nooooooooo give me back my girlbossFuck you retard. >>221259152>being this desperateGross.
>>221259180This IS girlboss nonsese.
>>221259076It's variable but for big budget films it does end up being pretty close to 2.5x. International takes more than 50% in many markets, so films that do better internationally have lower profit margins and need to turn higher than 2x. Then you add marketing on top of that and that's why you usually get to around 2.5x.
>>221259188No you fucking retard it literally is the exact opposite of that. Stop pretending you you're one of us. You're bad at it.
>>221259207No, it isn't.Stop pretending to be a comic reader and DC fan. I doubt you could list three DC comic book writer that worked on Supergirl before the 2000s
>>221259126>Ana NogueiraShe's fucking the right ((())) executives. Literally almost no writing credits to writer on a $175 million budget film.
>>221258803You think it'll be more or less than Zegler's Snow White's 336 million budget?
>>221259236>No UYou don't know what a girlboss isYou don't know what an all-white cast meansYou don't know what woke meansYou actually think CW supergirl has any fans at all How many times do you need to be outed as a tourist here?ALL WHITE FUCKING CASTNOT A GIRLBOSSI'M IN.
>>221259274I see, you couldn't list them, mr shill.
>>221259284I see you're too retarded to know that nobody cares. This isn't /co/. You L O S T
>>221259126It's the same way with Alex Kurtzman. He literally went from graduating from film school to becoming a writer and then a year later executive producer on Hercules and Xena. Which then got him Alias, then MI3, Transformers, Star Trek.Nobody can explain how this happened because he literally spent zero time paying any Hollywood dues.
>>221259313>>221259247>Lets just keep namedropping woketards in the hopes nobody will notice the all-white cast. You're REALLY fucking afraid of this aren't you?
>>221259247I think the gross budget with the UK tax credit will be at least $220 million.
>$175m budget That's around a $440m break even point, and it's gonna open to a third of what superman made
Markipilier's self funded movie Iron Lung was a Top 20 domestic box office movie and finally got kicked off the list this weekend. That's the state of movies right now. It was also a massive success for him. He personally cleared $20 million in profits.
>>221259180>Gross.Cunt or faglmaoing at u
>>221259134>lore accurate version of supergirlMaybe that makes greybearded YouTubers suddenly pretend the woke feminist culture war shit isn't actually there but no such luck here, shill
The suits at Warner looked at the box office of The Suicide Squad and said "we should give our billion dollar franchises to the Troma guy"
Meanwhile, they ain't got no money for the people that did Obsession.
>>221259413But they got paid in full.
>>221259413Maybe she should've asked for more money. Seems like it's her problem. They paid her and she was ok with the payment she got at the time.
>>221259455It was a low budget film. She couldn't have asked for more money.
>>221259376The cannon was established LONG before Sana Amanat took over at Marvel Comics (the origin of get woke go broke). Like it's actually fucking funny to me now that you're last desperate hope to defend wokism is to call the first comic book movie in 20 years with an all-white cast "woke". And you're rooting for it to fail, that's the hitlarious cherry on top of all of this. This could actually change the hollywood cultural landscape to actually end wokeshit, which has been KILLING hollywood since 2015, but you know that there is no job waiting for you personally in the age of Ellison and Bezos. All you have to do is just not put a nigger in one thing and you can't do it.
Ellison is probably going to clean house once the Warner Brothers deal goes through. He's going to take DC back to its roots of self-contained movies. No more shared universes that require homework from the audience.
>>221259539Yeah I don't think you've got the first fucking clue what Ellison is going to do. See the thing about Ellison and Bezos is they like money and don't care about you.
>>221258399b-but saars... we did the needful! we fight for gun!
>>221259648>nonono browns thono niggers tho
>>221258399>175M$ budget>435M$ breakeven point??
and we're back to the bots.
>>221258562it's made for film twitter by former CIA operatives
>>221259711>this sounds like something 4chan would sayThe thing about training your bots on old 4chan posts is I wrote them.
>>221259563>BezosHe bankrolled woke and pozzed Rings of Power and the Boys, retard.
>>221259479I dont give a fuck about canon and woke = race is outdated shit. I'm not even racist. I do fucking hate with a passion the feminization of male entertainment and the feminist culture warriors that make it happen like with Supergirl here. A superhero movie written by a (wo)man for women? Get the fuck outta here
>>221259821Don't forget Wheel of Time! That was woker than any of those.
>>221259563>they like moneyprobably has a LOT of notes pending for the Gunnverse then
>>221259821>>221259866And the fired the dumb bitch responsible. Not golden parachute after another 10 years of failure like Kathleen Kennedy, fucking FIRED. Now Amazon is making teen dramas with an all white cast. >>221259850>I'm not even racist.Neither am I, but you're not the audience. Tell me about Master and Commander.
>>221259313>Nobody can explain how this happenedThat's right goy
>>221258399am i supposed to read all that?
>>221259413dumbass. The appropriate and lawyer approved response to foid nonsense like that is to ignore it.
>>221259887Doesn't matter. The gunnverse are tracking with Marvel phase 1 numbers, which is actually fucking crazy given how traumatized and disillusioned with hollywood that audience is. Bezos and Ellison are smart enough to understand that the target audience here is trepidatious. The question is can Gunn convince them back in anyway, and it looks like the answer is a tepid yes. Once everyone figures out that Supergirl isn't a girlboss and has an all-white cast, as lead-in to Clayface the audience will be building instead of shrinking like Star Wars and Marvel. This kills the mouse.
>>221259683You have to double your budget just to cover marketing and theater fees. Profit is 2.5x budget.
>>221259897>And the fired the dumb bitch responsibleWho was responsible?
>>221258399so how come women dont show up for these kinds of movies like they did for the devil wears prada and wicked
>>221259469Okay, who cares? A professional would take the cachet of being art director on a smash hit indie film and build a career out of it instead of airing dirty laundry in the media.
>>221260021I don't remember the dumb bitches name and I don't care enough to look it up.
>>221260043So basically that never happened.
>>221258798They committed a slow suicide starting in 2012. They'd have to purge (not fire, but actually round up and execute in public forum) their leftist trash to regain their former popularity.
>>221260024Who cares?Also Devil Wears Prada 2 is a fucking joke. The romcom died 15 years ago because twitter, and twitter is even more retarded now. The foidslop audience have moved on to hallmark and netflix dramas, things that the hollywood retards that programmed you haven't been keeping up with and don't know how to write (protip - all white casts). Meanwhile boylove anime/manga alone outsells ALL OF HOLLYWOOD COMBINED and hollywood can't figure out how to do gay vampires in 2026.
>>221260024Power fantasies are totally different for women. They crave status over strength. Men self insert as a superhero. Women self-insert as the girl everyone either loves or is afraid of.
>>221259975The audience is actually shrinking more than they expected.
>>221259975damn that's some good stuff you're on huh
>>221260076>I've got no idea what the fuck I'm talking aboutThe woking of hollywood began in 2015 (current year) after Precious swept the oscars in 2014 which made Sharon Stone very mad for some reason, then in 2015 not a single black person was nominated for an award which made John Oliver very mad for some reason. So the oscars brought in the DEI rules, and immediately made themselves irrelevant.
>>221260109>>221260121>copeIt doesn't matter what you say. You were always too retarded to understand why you were destined to fail. But it's only now that hollywood has a chance of actually surviving the decade that the true depth of your retardation shows.
SAAAAR THIS PROVES WHITE PEOPLE SHOULD NOT BE IN MOVIES!!! MAKE THEM ALL BROWN AND BLACK SAAAR
>>221260087>how to do gay vampires in 2026.Which is weird because classics like The Lost Boys and Interview with a Vampire are loaded with faggot subtext. it's like they've lobotomized themselves.
Doesn't matter, James Gunn can just say journalists don't know shit and the movie is sucessful and keep his job
>>221259126Did you miss the last decade of DEI pushes? When you have quotas to hit and a very shallow talent pool, that means you occasionally give big bets to people with no experience.
>>221260165I know! It's absolutely fucking insane how full retard they went with interview with a vampire. While boylove is going from strength to strength globally they make an Anne Rice adaptation about niggers in loisiana in the 19th century because they were too afraid to put any LGBTQ themes in it. DEI is literally the enemy of genuine culture.
>>221260259I don't think there's a bet at all. I don't know for sure, but I'm going to guess that whoever the fuck that is was paid to sit quietly in a corner while James and his boys wrote the script and then put her name on it at the end. They did the same thing with the TV show Blacked. The actual black writers go so sick of only being allowed to shit on white people that they left, so they just hired a black woman to sit in a room while the very white actual writers did the wokeshit and then put her name on it at the end. I ALWAYS thought it was weird that Gunn kept Superman (something that doesn't really suit his style) but gave away Supergirl and Lobo (two characters that absolutely suit his style). And what I think actually happened is he didn't.
>>221260155>a chance of actually surviving the decadeThe global fault line in these entertainment properties across tv, film, gaming, etc is gender not race so no there will be no future for Superheroes, Star Wars, Terminator, Star Trek, Halo, Transformers and so on as long as that's not properly addressed.
>>221259897>Now Amazon is making teen dramas with an all white cast.The male lead of that series is half-jeet.
I hate capeshit but i might go see it because the girl is kinda cute
>>221260127Oh please. The oscars have always been irrelevant. The studios literally hold "for your consideration" parties, where the gift bags alone are open bribes for academy judges. Those parties have been around since the 1970s.DEI got its real start through Gamergate in 2014, but the social rumblings began a couple years prior.
>>221258399Why didn't they simply cast an extremely hot woman as the lead role instead of this weird looking fetal alcohol syndrome faced lass?
>>221260341>I'm new hereName three movies with an all white OR all male cast. >>221260350Is he a nigger? No?Then it's an all white cast. >>221260366Once upon a time you could actually value how much "Academy Award Winner" on a DVD cover would add to it's total revenue. That number is now zero.
>>221259413>Meanwhile, they ain't got no money for the people that did Obsession.kekif only it were a TV show, you could say "mo money fo dem programs"
>>221260245well, he'd be right. Journalists don't know shit. That's low hanging fruit.
>>221259134Tom King supergirl isn't lore accurate
>>221259166>>221259109She's only a quarter Filipino, she's mostly British White.
>>221260448After this movie his version will be considered the definitive version by normies. And their version is all that matters since they're the majority.
>>221260448Your mother's black boyfriend isn't lore accurate. >>221260458It's not that important what her ancestry.com results are. The point is she's not fucking black.
>>221260481Nobody is watching this movie.
>>221260091Kpop demon hunters and Sailor Moon represent the peak female power fantasy. If you want to make an action movie that appeals to women, that's the formula to follow.
>>221258399It's down! Now tracking at 39 million haha OH no no no
>>221260481Probably not considering no one is going to watch it.
>>221260497I am. >>221260500That's not what female power fantasy means. A Handmaid's Tale is the quintessential female power fantasy.
>>221260497It'll probably do really well on streaming unfortunately. And WB was one of the first to really hop onto the streaming train so they won't care as much if it flops in the box office if it does great on streaming.
>>221260513I am. And they're all going to pirate it. There's no boycott here, they're just scared to invest because of Marvel trauma.
>>221260520>A Handmaid's Tale is the quintessential female power fantasy.That's a female gooner sex fantasy. Sailor Moon is pure power fantasy as is Kpop Demon Hunters, and Disney princess movies.
>>221260417You know you can have female lead action movies for guys right? That's what Jolie's Tomb Raider, Underworld or Milla's Resident Evil movies were. Budgeted properly and you can make a LOT of money even. Just seems like you're out of your depth here.
>>221260417>That number is now zero.it always takes considerably more time for reality to hit the normies. Would have hit sooner if the Academy hadn't let the LOTR trilogy sweep in 2004. That absolutely had to be a low year in bribes offered.
>>221260522This won't do great at streaming either.
>>221260547No, you're retarded. The female power fantasy has three key elements. 1. The main character has something special about her that she did not earn (fertility)2. The main character is the center of a love triangle between at least two very different men (the subjects)3. The main character makes no decisions which affect the plot (self-objectification). Margaret Attwood looked at the trend towards the female power fantasy in YA fiction and was appalled by it, so she wrote a parody of it explaining and exageratting it's tropes, the parody went full Poe's Law and the book wound up become loved for the exact reasons Attwood believed the female power fantasy should be hated. You on the other hand are a man trying to explain that the things you like are actually the things that women like. Sailor Moon was originally intended to be enjoyed by tween girls, but wound up massively popular with teen boys for somewhat obvious reasons eventually launching the Moe genre.
>>221260556I don't know why you're telling me. Girlboss doesn't mean "has a girl in it"It means a girl version of a male character that is automatically better than the male version of that character without any of the struggles the male character had to go through. See: CW supergirl, the M-she-U, Disney star wars. This version of supergirl is not superman with a vagina. It's the actual cannon supergirl who railed against the idea she should be anything like superman.
>>221260008Brutal. Very happy to see Hollywood suffer.
>>221260694I'm not
>>221260626Girls like sailor moon more than boys do you dweeb.
>>221260669The fact you keep circling back to the "canon" illustrates why all these male-leaning franchises are commercially dead and only the hardcore male fans remain. It genuinely doesn't seem to register how these movies and shows don't resonate with casual male audiences because you can't see past the sanctity of the canon. It is the be all end all. Nothing else matters. Not even the fact Supergirl is a movie written by a woman for other women.
>>221260815>something males actually believeIt's okay that you like the cute girls that do the cute things nonny.
>>221260836>the hardcore male fans remain.THE ONLY ONES ACTUALLY FUCKING NEEDEDGET THAT THROUGH YOUR DUMB FUCKING SKULLNerds are worth TENS OF BILLIONS OF DOLLARS ANNUALLY. The question isn't are they going to get entertained, they absolutely are. The are dozens of megacorps around the world that exclusively focus on that market. The question is do you want a slice?
>>221260669This movie isn't accurate to canon at all.
>>221260995Supergirl to brainiacBraniac to powergirlPowergirl to crisis on two earths. Not only is this the only way to do supergirl, but this is the only time to introduce supergirl if you want to do the big sellers without going through fucking smallville again.
>>221261088>Not only is this the only way to do supergirl, but this is the only time to introduce supergirl if you want to do the big sellers without going through fucking smallville again.The movie plot, characterization, visuals, choreography, VFX, and marketing is all wrong.
>>221258445>>221258490i can confirm, seeing two men kissing is like watching a corpse in advanced state of decompostion full of maggots.Thanks for the reminder that only a mentally ill man would like to see that.
>>221258399Red Letter Media BTFO!!!No one cares about Woke Goyslop!
>>221261135Your face is all wrong, I'm still going to watch this movie. As will everyone else, what the box office is measuring is whether or not they're willing to pay for it sight unseen. Provided it's what it's supposed to be, which it look like it is, they'll pay for the next one.
As an actual comic reader who used to be a big fan of DC before the nonsensical New 52 reboot, this film feels entirely disconnected from her rich publication history, delivering a cynical pastiche that is fundamentally non-canonical to the true spirit of the comics. The other anon that has been shilling for the movie non-stop has no idea what he is talking about.To understand better one must look at Kara’s legacy. Since her 1959 debut by Otto Binder and Al Plastino, Supergirl has been defined by her compassion and the unique tragedy of actually remembering Krypton's destruction, a burden her cousin Kal-El never carried. The gold standard of modern Supergirl writing belongs to Sterling Gates. Alongside artist Jamal Igle, Gates’s late-2000s run perfectly balanced her trauma with unyielding heroism, establishing her as an optimistic, fiercely independent icon. Similarly, Peter David’s complex 1990s saga respected the mantle's core tenet: hope born from profound loss.The 2025 film actively ignores this foundational history, choosing instead to adapt Tom King’s 2021 miniseries, Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow. King holds a notably poor reputation among many die-hard comic fans. His penchant for deconstructing classic heroes into depressed, traumatized shells of themselves, seen in his divisive Batman run and the heavily criticized Heroes in Crisis, often alienates long-time readers. His vision of Supergirl is a hardened, cynical cosmic wanderer driven more by rage and alcohol than traditional Kryptonian ideals.Yet, the ultimate tragedy of the film is that it fails to replicate even the few redeeming qualities of King’s comic. Woman of Tomorrow succeeded almost entirely due to artist Bilquis Evely, whose breathtaking, surrealist landscapes gave the book a magnificent, Moebius-inspired "space fantasy" identity. The movie, however, strips away Evely’s psychedelic world-building in favor of generic, muddy CGI wastelands.
>>221261251Thanks chatGPT. Didn't ask tho.
>>221261170This. Mike THE NOT GAYS Stoklasa is seething over Gen X libtardism bombing. Hopefully he kills himself.
>>221261268It doesn't stop this movie from alienating everyone. It abandons the beloved, compassionate canon established by foundational writers, while simultaneously failing to capture the visual of King’s gritty miniseries. By rejecting her true comic history and mishandling its chosen source material, the DCU created a Supergirl that feels entirely foreign to the page. No amount of shilling will erase that.
>>221258443Why would they try and depict the dumb trench coat on the cup instead of just doing her cape anyway?
>>221261251>Heroes in CrisisToo white and too much tits for Gunn and woke Hollywood.
To be fair, a cyclical and frustrating trend has plagued Supergirl: writers attempting to "fix" a character who isn't broken. Driven by a misguided need to differentiate Kara Zor-El from her cousin, modern writers repeatedly reconstruct her as an enraged, rebellious, and distinctly "alien" foil to Superman. Yet, history proves these gritty reinventions always fail, inevitably requiring course corrections from later writers to restore her true legacy.This modern pattern of angst began in earnest with Jeph Loeb’s 2004 reintroduction, which presented a volatile, confused, and dangerously rebellious Kara. The trend reached its most literal extreme during the New 52 era, where her characterization was so heavily steeped in anger and isolation that she actually became a Red Lantern. Most recently, Tom King’s Supergirl: Woman of Tomorrow reimagined her once again, this time as a hardened, cynical, and emotionally calloused wanderer.The fundamental flaw in all these runs is the sacrifice of Kara’s greatest traits: her feminity, compassion and her heroism. The true tragedy of Supergirl is that, unlike Clark, she actually remembers Krypton. She lost her home, her family, and her childhood. Responding to that unimaginable grief with hope for a better tomorrow is what makes her heroic. When writers strip away that warmth to make her an "edgy" contrast to Superman, they rob her of her emotional depth, reducing her to a one-dimensional trope of adolescent rage or jaded trauma.Consequently, the market always rejects this version of Supergirl. These cynical runs inevitably alienate the fanbase, leading to cancellations and editorial pivots. DC is then forced to bring in new creative teams to "correct" the character, painstakingly restoring the optimistic, compassionate hero readers actually want. Kara Zor-El is at her best when allowed to be a beacon of hope. She does not need to be Kal-El’s dark reflection to shine. Anyone saying so is a hack or a shill.
Here is the only way to do a DC universe reboot.Batman FilmSuperman FilmJustice League FilmMAYBE Wonder Woman FilmBatman Film 2Justice League Film 2MAYBE Flash FilmSuperman Film 2Justice League Film 3
>>221261292>it's not a frame for frame adaptation of a comic book I claim to hate>This is bad somehowIt's not alienating anyone. It's capturing the core of the character and placing her within the confines of the cinematic universe that is still in the very early stages of being built. If you want to talk about a woman of tomorrow adaptation, go watch the disgusting animated movie of it and see exactly why nobody was asking for that. >>221261289>Youtube channel nobody on 4chan actually watchesIf you wanted to discuss drinker or nerdrotic you might have a better time being believable. Nerdrotic will have his usual clowntake because he can't distinguish between "not-democrat" and "hardcore trumptard" but Drinker et. al. have been notably silent on the supposed "controversy" surrounding the "marketing" of this. You've lost control of the culture retard. Respond to the market or fail.
>>221261425You know nothing about the character core. The best Supergirl stories succeed not by deconstructing Kara Zor-El, but by deeply understanding the emotional core of her heroism. Writers like Sterling Gates delivered the definitive modern blueprint by realizing that Kara's trauma, the fact that she vividly remembers the death of Krypton, should naturally cultivate profound empathy, not endless, unlikable angst.Unlike Jeph Loeb, who introduced a volatile and frequently untrustworthy teenager, or the New 52 teams who reduced her grief to a literal Red Lantern rage-fest, a writer like Gates allowed Kara to hurt without making her toxic. Good Supergirl runs understand that her independence from Superman shouldn't be defined by rebellion, aggression, or cynicism. Instead, it is found in her active choice to embrace humanity.While Tom King’s Woman of Tomorrow stripped Kara of her warmth to turn her into a jaded, alcohol-drinking cosmic wanderer, superior writers anchored her in real relationships. Runs that actually work show Kara building a life on Earth, forming meaningful bonds with characters like Lana Lang or other teenaged heroes like the Teen Titans, and choosing to protect her new home out of genuine love rather than cold obligation.What Loeb, King, and the New 52 creators got fundamentally wrong was confusing "alienation" with depth. They assumed that to make Supergirl compelling, she had to be a dark, aggressive foil to Clark. Same mistake this movie is now making.
>>221260849>nonnyand with that you revealed everything about yourself that needed to be
>>221258399>worse than the MarvelsI was watching a camrip of it, and halfway through a gambling ad started playing and I didn't even notice it was an ad until a Dota 2 character walked in. That's how insanely badly made that movie was.
They didn't see the Supergirl CW numbers? No one gives a fuck about Kara.
>>221261499Nigger if you're going to keep Ai generating at me then please limit to 500 characters. I disagree with everything you're telling chatGPT to say, and I disagree with you even getting a fucking opinion, since that opinion is literally just "make her a girlboss" which nobody, not even, actually wants to see. Supergirl needs to be traumatized by brainiac in order to introduce brainiac as the BBEG of phase 1. Supergirl is acting like a traumatized teenager who got sent to a planet where people deal with their problems with sex, drugs and rock n roll. Fucking perfect. No notes needed. So take your Ai and go fuck yourself.
>>221261521I wasn't hiding it. >>221261553Did nobody like the wokeslop girlboss version of supergirl?Weird how nobody has been pointing that out for the last ten years.
>>221261567Not him but...As soon as Paramount completes their purchase phase 1 will end. There won't be time for Brainiac
>>221261567>Supergirl needs to be traumatized by brainiac in order to introduce brainiac as the BBEG of phase 1.Gunn's Brainiac will fucking suck, just like Superman sucked, and Supergill will suck.
>>221258399>8Hire an ugly dyke who runs her dumb fucking mouth, sure worked out for Snow White and the Little Mermaid!!!FACT!!!
BRAAAAP
>>221261589>I have no idea what's actually going on in hollywood but this was a headline I heard about on facebook>>221261651If you say so retard. >>221261677What did she say exactly?
>>221258968What lesson will they learn?>not enough bipocs>superheroes are "out">audiences hate women (true)
>>221261723You know this has an all-white cast right?
>>221261423I got a better one>Batman>World's Finest>Justice League>Batman 2>Teen Titans>Justice League 2>Batman 3>Titans>Justice League 3
>>221261718New leadership naturally changes directions, especially when things are failing.
>>221261741Momoa is Polynesian.
>>221261718>What did she say exactly?Talking shit about everyone pointing out how fucking ugly she is and has a face like a bulldogs ass!!!FACT!!!
>>221261769You think Teen Titans would sell better than a Superman movie?
>>221261821Yes, if you had a big Batman cameo in it.
>>221261773Yeah the new leadership concerned here being Larry Ellison who has made his anti-woke pro-money stance clear. Which is why hollywood is shitting themselves at the thought that a supergirl movie with an ALL WHITE CAST that targets specifically the CORE AUDIENCE might actually displace the MCU and hasten the demise of the only studios that the shitforbrains who programmed you can get jobs at. >>221261783>Momoa is not a niggerLike i said, all white cast.
>>221261844So what if you put Batman in the Superman movie?
>>221261814didn't happen. What she actually said was stepping into a superhero role meant everyone was going to comment on her gender and looks (which you're doing right now) and that she had made peace with that.
>>221261858Dude...Supergirl has already failed. 45-55m opening
>>221258968>And Hollywood will never learn this lessonYou don't understand, entertainment now isn't made to make money and, you know, ENTERTAIN PEOPLE, it's to take things that white straight males care about/look forward to and shove identity politics into them so that SJW's (Jews, Women, Blacks, Gays, Trannies, Beta Male Simps) can call white straight males Incels and Chuds because they're narcisistic sociopaths with the minds of children and act accordingly!Isn't this obvious by now that this is their true agenda or have you had your head up your fucking culo over the last 10+years?!?FACT!!!
>>221260417>Is he a nigger?>No?>Then it's an all white cast.You have to be very very brown to think White means "not a nigger" and nothing else.
>>221261859>So what if you put Batman in the Superman movie?That's World's Finest.
>>221260535>y-you're all going to watch it secretly!Nah I'm just going to continue not watching capeshit because I'm not a subhuman. You sound really mad that your flick is getting laughed at lol
>>221261339Because one disgusting vile nasty jew when they were developing it went>wouldn't it be funny if we sold the goyim a foreskin cup, hahaIts that simple
>>221261887Is onto us
>>221261907Normal people won't know that though. Need to call it like Superman and Batman: World's Finest
>>221261882dooooooooooood it's matching marvel phase 1 numbers which it has no earthly right to do. The box office is only measuring the people who are planning to PAY for this, everyone is going to watch, it's just most of the audience is going to pirate it because they don't trust hollywood. This movie is about buying that trust back. >>221261887>entertainment now isn't made to make moneyIt is if you're Larry Ellison of Jeff Bezos. >>221261888You have to be a retarded tourist to not understand the context of the demand for all-white casts.
>>221261923>Nah I'm just going to continue not watching capeshit because I'm not a subhuman.Then maybe don't hang around in capeshit threads expecting to have your opinion taken seriously?
>>221258399So this movie's woke because Hollywood Jews made Supergirl a chick or something, right?
>>221258399Should have cast Sydney Sweeney instead of that sour faced fucking cunt and could have done 500 mill easy, and maybe more, if its was good!That faggot Gunn is responsible for this and could redeem himself by hiring her as Powergirl but you sure as fuck know that ain't going to happen because it'll upset Cat Ranchers like in the attached pic!While I would have rather had an R-rated Lobo solo movie!!!FACT!!!
>>221261954Corporations want a quick fix, not a long 10 year road to rebuilding
>>221261875>didn't happen.>What she actually said was stepping into a superhero role meant everyone was going to comment on her gender and looks (which you're doing right now) and that she had made peace with that.You're a liar, you know it, I know it and so does everyone else here, furthermore.....https://jumpshare.com/share/07QF8XQwqHQxzP6Wg0r0!!!FACT!!!
>>221262023Actress playing Supergirl was miscast. Also historically the character is better off as part of an ensemble cast in a Superman movie.
She's kinda like Zegler and can't shut up when she's destroying her career.
>>221261954>>entertainment now isn't made to make money>It is if you're Larry Ellison of Jeff Bezos.Neither need money and allowed identity politics to be pushed into shit like Rings Of Power!!!FACT!!!
>>221262067Better tell Larry Ellison that, because it seems like he forgot to put your dumb ass in charge of Warner. >>221262086Nope. You got conned into thinking this was more Disney wokeshit but disneybots who are shitting themselves at the thought that superhero movies that target the core audience and don't have niggers in them might hasten the death of the mouse who actually did all the shit you're complaining about.
>>221258399They should make the movies people obviously want to watch from these properties. She-Hulk should have been some fetish shit and a goofy parody of comics like the comics were. Supergirl should be a cute blonde young woman who lands on Earth and finds her cousin is a superhero and tries it as a role herself. This shit was already written and produced decades ago, just do the goddamn source material and make what people want from this shit. Goddammit.
>>221262131>Fox newsGood grief can you please go be a /pol/boomer somewhere else?>>221262140Jeff Bezos fired the bitch and everyone responsible for fucking up ROPe. Now amazon makes teen dramas with all white casts.
>>221261949>Need to call it like Superman and Batman: World's FinestExcuse you?
>>221262170>Supergirl should be a girlboss and she-hulk should make my dick hardFuck off. You're not the people who watch this stuff anyway.
>>221262147>Nope. You got conned into thinking this was more Disney wokeshit but disneybots who are shitting themselves at the thought that superhero movies that target the core audience and don't have niggers in them might hasten the death of the mouse who actually did all the shit you're complaining about.I just see a clear pattern while the extremely low box office projections proves it and that its failure can't be blamed on Incels and Chuds and wont accept that no one wants this fucking trash!!!FACT!!!
>>221262175>Jeff BezosFuck him for hiring producers who canceled the Stargate revival because might like it a bit too much.
>>221262175>Jeff Bezos fired the bitch and everyone responsible for fucking up ROPe.>Now amazon makes teen dramas with all white casts.He still stood aside and allowed it to happen!!!FACT!!!
>>221262193Reading comprehension is not your strong suit.
The main problem of the new movie lies not just in its departure from comic canon, but in its profound misunderstanding of what makes a character compelling. Based on the marketing, teasers, and the creative team's own descriptions, this new iteration of Supergirl has been stripped of her emotional depth and replaced with an obnoxious, cynical caricature of a "messy party girl."This tonal misfire was starkly apparent in her introduction at the conclusion of 2025's Superman. Instead of arriving as a tragic survivor, she crash-lands on Earth as a reckless drunk coming to collect her wayward dog, Krypto, and calling Superman a bitch. The promotional material for her solo film doubles down on this abrasive persona. Teasers proudly showcase Kara spending her birthday drinking and dancing alone on alien planets with red suns, specifically so she can get drunk and avoid her powers. The creative team has explicitly described her as an "attitudinal" antihero.This is a disservice to Supergirl's legacy. By framing her traumatic past as an excuse for reckless, jaded behavior, the film conflates obnoxiousness with complexity. Furthermore, the marketing highlights an unnecessarily adversarial dynamic with Superman. Trailers show Superman attempting to offer stern guidance, only to be met with disrespect from a cousin who fundamentally lacks his moral compass. Presenting Kara as a sneering, rebellious foil to Clark’s earnestness doesn't make her seem cool or modern. It just makes her seem petulant.
>>221262221>with all white castsNot any more.
>>221258399Going directly to Supergirl for the second movie was a stupid idea. Should have been Wonder Woman, or Hal Jordan. The new universe isn't ready for tertiary characters.
>>221262208Nigger it's targetting the core audience and they're the only ones who need to be made happy by this. Everything else is just the media lying to you for money. >>221262213I have no idea what you're talking about but it sounds like another couple of wokies got their marching orders before they were allowed to "update" another franchise for "modern audiences". >>221262221No he didn't. He literally stepped in to punish those responsible and replace them with someone who hasn't set fire to a billion dollar investement because they wanted to "fix" something that wasn't broken. No fucking unions at Amazon.
Wait, this is out already?
>>221262225No I understood you, you're just stupid. >>221262234Ooop, chatGPT is back. >>221262245Wonder woman stand alones are boring for a start. She is literally stuck permanently in mary sue mode and there's no way out of it. The only time she's interesting is when she's in ensemble with Batman and Superman because she's the girl of the group. Supergirl has to be introduced NOW, because1. Brainiac is the BBEG of phase 1 and supergirl needs to arrive on earth before braniac2. It sets up the story we actually want to see which is crisis on two earths which will introduce powergirl.
>>221260008>You have to double your budget just to cover marketing and theater fees. Profit is 2.5x budget.source: my ass
>>221262262>sounds like another couple of wokies got their marching orders before they were allowed to "update" another franchise for "modern audiences".The producers wanted to update it for new audiences.
>>221262175You first, troon.
>>221262147>Super important incompetent man didn't put a random anon in charge of movies>Instead he put a generic Hollywood wokie in chargeBig surprise
>>221262234The tone of the movie is comedy, fights, and cool, not dramatic and wholesome. At least that is what it looks from the trailers. It's basically another Guardians of the Galaxy type of movie.
The Flash is widely regarded as a cinematic failure, plagued by terrible CGI, a convoluted multiverse plot, and behind-the-scenes controversies. However, the film’s bombing had absolutely nothing to do with Sasha Calle or her portrayal of Supergirl. In fact, her performance remains one of the sole redeeming qualities of that entire era of DC films. When compared to the marketing for the upcoming Supergirl movie, it becomes painfully clear that Calle’s version, despite being a radical departure from the comics, possesses a depth of characterization that the new DCU iteration fundamentally lacks.Calle’s Supergirl was entirely distinct from traditional comic lore. She was a captive of the Russian government, deprived of sunlight, emaciated, and deeply traumatized. Yet, even in this grim, alternate-reality take, the core of Superman's family endured. Once freed, her initial rage and distrust of humanity were entirely justified by decades of torture. More importantly, when the chips were down, she still chose to fight General Zod to protect a world that had shown her nothing but cruelty. Her sacrifice was deeply heroic, anchored by a somber, emotional performance that treated Kara’s pain with profound respect.Contrast this with what we’ve seen from the marketing for Milly Alcock’s upcoming Supergirl. Where Calle’s Supergirl was a tragic, hardened survivor who still found the strength to be a savior, the new DCU Supergirl comes off as a petulant rebel running from her grief with a bad attitude.Sasha Calle proved that you can drastically alter Supergirl's backstory while still retaining the gravitas and underlying nobility required for the role. The new film, meanwhile, by trading genuine emotional weight for a superficial "bad girl" vibe, inadvertently reminds us just how good we had it, even in a bad movie like The Flash.
>>221262305Called it. Didn't even have to look it up. Based Bezos policing the wokies. >>221262320>more boomershittake your meds and go to bed grandpa.
This movie will be a gold mine for the Drinker in years to come.
>>221262334And then fired her when she fucked it up. Something Bob Iger at Disney should have done with Kathleen Kennedy tens years ago.
>>221262367Notably silent in the last week or two tho. Masters of the Universe shook them a bit I think.
>>221258399>presales>tracking>crystal ballsill wait to see what the domestic and international gross is. anything else is sophistry.
>>221262397Actually the real numbers that matter are going to be the final gross of Clayface. The question is, after 10 years of being punished for liking things, can Gunn get the audience to trust again. All white cast with no fanfare. That's a man who knows what he's doing.
>>221262353
Why is Batman 2 taking so long?
>>221262503>basedbooru.comngmi
>>221262531Matt Reeves is being a bitch. Battinson was shit anyway.
>>221262565Everything should be scrapped and a new creative team put in place for a full reboot.
>>221262625Everything has been scrapped except batman. Because The Batman did have box office success at a time when not much else was. But it's not like the Battinson is iconic or anything. And he definitely was no designed with eventually becoming a founding member of the justice league in mind.
>>221260879>THE ONLY ONES ACTUALLY FUCKING NEEDEDWhen you've had enough circlejerking over the canon and pretending feminist culture warriors aren't running the whole show let us know. I won't hold my breath
>>221262665>Everything has been scrapped except batman.I was talking about the DCU as well.
>>221262668Okay, nobody cares about the opinion of a disneybot anyway. >>221262681It's not even two movies in and you want to reboot it already?
Good I hope they fire James Gunn.
>>221262724Why?
>>221262724They're not going to fire him for contractual reasons, he's going to "commit suicide".
>>221262784SUPERCAT
Imagine how they felt when Demon Slayer beat them.
>>221262699>It's not even two movies in and you want to reboot it already?Yes. It's not just two movies in. You have to include the DCEU as well because of the Flash movie. It's a half assed reboot by Gunn. Technically and until Gunn changes his mind again, Wonder Woman and Aquaman is still Gadot and Momoa in the DCU.
>>221258695Talking with ur mouth full? NGMI
>>221262842I expect much the same as Disney felt when you chased the entire audience all the way to Japan. >>221262844>You have to include the DCEU as well because of the Flash movieNo I don't. There's no fucking way that jewish enbie pedophile is keeping Flash. And we've already seen that non-binary superperson is not supergirl. Sneederverse is dead. I piss on it's grave.
>>221262844Momoa is Lobo now and while it's true that Gunn promised WW3 with Gadot, that was only to shill out the investors because he changed his mind later
krypton sucks, only jews like the immigrant angle
>>221262844Why reboot? Just recast and treat prior events in broad strokes. Black Adam and Superman both had similar worlds.
>>221262546Shame about the shape of the tip of his cock
The Marvels' overseas box office was slightly stronger than the domestic box officeIf Superman is any indication, Supergirl will have weaker overseas box office than domestic box office, specially with the world cup on
>>221262966Or just don't do that and let the DCU stand on it's own without the stench of sneeder even close to it. >>221262903Good, nobody wants to see the ESL Jew in anything ever.
>>221262872>>221262903It is a multiverse. Gunn is allowed to recast roles. Momoa is the only one who could realistically return as Aquaman. Lobo character is full of makeup.
>>221262193According to the tracking numbers, nobody watches this stuffMaybe if Supergirl were a beautiful, charming young woman who struggles to live up to her cousins example and neither a girlboss nor a drunken ugly whore, people would
>>221263005Why the fuck would you want Momoa to play Aquaman again?It was a horrible cast to begin with and those movies were dogshit.
>>221262990>DCU stand on it's ownNever will as it will always be tied to the DCEU.
>>221263005A trending video shows Momoa frustrated that fans only bring Aquaman pictures for him to sign, with little attention given to his new role as Lobo.
>>221263028>I don't watch this stuff but maybe if you listen to a bunch of my retarded demands I still won't watch this stuffThat's what I said.
>>221263035>It was a horrible cast to begin with and those movies were dogshit.Better than anything produced for the soon to scrapped DCU, except for the second movie that Gunn interfered with.
>>221263036Hi Zack, you know this is a disneybot thread right?
>>221263046>A trending video shows Momoa frustrated that fans only bring Aquaman pictures for him to signAnd probably some for Stargate as well. He will always be tied to Atlantis.
>>221263061Zack, you're tripping. Superman was 10,000 times better than Aquaman. I can pick a random episode of Peacemaker and it's better than Aquaman.
>>221263053Like I said, nobody watches this stuff.Maybe they should try making something someone might watch.
>>221263068>>221263079Hi James. Maybe just realize you are just out of your depth in your role and should step aside.
>>221262546who is she?
>>221263079This, right HERE, was better than Aquaman?
>>221263153I'm not James moron.I'm the Anon that destroyed your career. >>221263162Natalie Mars back when she posted on /b/>>221263099Nerds watch this stuff. And they pay for it too, more than enough to cover it's cost.Which begs the question of why you think you get a vote?
>>221263182Yes. And it's not close. And he didn't even kill anyone.
>>221262193>she-hulk should make my dick hardAbsolutely. 100%>You're not the people who watch this stuff anywayNobody is. You waging your gay and lame culture war on social media against the MCU or Star Wars isn't "watching the show" dumb foid. Fuck off
>>221263199This shit? HERE?
>>221263202Nerds are.You know, the people your bosses have been deliberately antagonizing for the last 10 years even tho they paid your salary and are the entire reason you're here at all? The "toxic fans" or whatever you're calling us this week who didn't show up to Mandarine and Gumball or whatever the fuck you managed to shart out this year? And ironically you're still here to shit on them while they're literally paying someone else to do the job you should have done.
>>221262760Because he admitted he didn't want to make the Superman movie and he can't do anything else but Guardians of the Galaxy. He's a one trick pony, and that one trick is trash.
>>221263211I already said yes. I don't have any webms of Aquaman because I can't remember a single thing about it except that it was shit.
>>221263248That doesn't answer the question at all.
>>221258558spiderman is by far the biggest superhero in the world though
>>221263389And isn't doing as well as he should be if you can read between the lines of the access media doublespeak.
>>221263035Are you kidding? He was great as Aquaman. Plus the movie made over 1 billion dollars, its the most relevant the character EVER was.
>>221263438>You know who should play this 5'10 blond haired blue eyed clean shaven fishman? >JASON MOMOA!I'm so glad your career is dead.
>>221263263>That doesn't answer the question at all.Because it's not in your best interests accept that answer.
>>221263555>Because I'm only trained to post things that get updoots on redditOHHHHHHH I see.
