Is that some sort of meme format? I've seen the exact same sentence for the Linkin Park music video.
>>221264227Technology? No. Technique? Yes. The people who designed Shrek are not the ones making Shrek 5. What you are describing is a competency crisis.
>>221264227>reddit screencap of a twitter screencapBurn this board down please
>>221264227
>>221264272>Is that some sort of meme format?
>>221264272its mocking the moon landing excuse for how there hasnt been any succesful followup missions because it was obviously all a scam done on a soundstage
>>221264272>I've seen the exact same sentence for the Linkin Park music videoDoesn't make sense. They've always sucked.
>>221264331No there really has been a loss of knowledge
>nostalgiafags are redditorsChecks out. Brainrotted by overconsumption of member berries that they've created a completely false past reality.
>>221264371i had to buy that book for my animation 101 elective in college in 2011. i always thought that passage was extremely ironic theres no such thing as "lost knowledge" in the internet age. theres only profit chasing and lost effort
>>221264331There were 5 successful followup missions you drooling retard
>>221264427There's something depressingly amusing about mid life crisis Millennials writing out these seething nihilistic posts about how knowledge is being lost and they don't even realise that it reflects poorly on them. That they are the ones failing to pass on the knowledge. That society is going to shit under their watch.
>>221264427>completely false past realityis this how you cope?
>>221264476It is all Gen X's fault
>>221264471sure there was
>>221264471Imagine believing this.
>implying Shrek had good animation to begin with and wasn't a YouTube poop in cinema form, shoving in as many contemporary slop memes as it could >>221264509You're welcome to show me the complaints about picrel's animation. What did they do different?
>>221264444there is definitely lost knowledge in this age like any other. though not related to all that lack of teacher nonsense. I just know this from going to school for anthropology. there are hundreds of books and documents detailing for example native american archaeology and culture in the area I live in, including certain details that I've never seen online such as the existence of chinese pig iron in pacific coastal sites(likely from flotsam) and other details that are actually kind of important when it comes to history and anthropology but that shit is not getting put online and is only what 0.000001% of the information out there on paper that isn't. and even if it is put online it's not guaranteed to last digitally by any means whatsoever. we already have lost media. lost knowledge absolutely can and does exist today.but yeah people can just learn from a book how to draw people while imagining a skeleton and muscles inside them and people do.
>>221264476It's a boomer world, we're just living in it
Shrek 1 is a good looking movie
We still have Shreksaphone, so, i'm good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pxw-5qfJ1dk&list=RDpxw-5qfJ1dk&start_radio=1
>bespoke in-house tooling gets replaced with COTS slop>no soulShocking.
Didn't they say the same thing when that KOTH reboot came out?
>>221264697KOTH was worse because they also lost the technology of being funny.
>>221264227>"My father works on Nintendo"
>>221264597Lmao it aged like shit shut the fuck up
>>221264227lmao his dad was diabolical for that answer
>>221264444I get where you’re coming from, but I still see how it’s possible for techniques to be lost. It hit me while I was watching an episode of “How It’s Made.” I think it was one where they were making boat hulls. Of course, they were using all this nice equipment, but I found myself thinking, “That guy’s not really a craftsman. He’s an assembly line worker who only knows one specific way to do what he’s doing.” There we thousands of years worth of carpenters and shipwrights that did what that guy was doing, only they had nothing but their hands and simple tools. Now obviously that doesn’t make their way superior necessarily, but it does serve as an example of technology and techniques that have become lost, or at the very least not something one might reasonably expect to find on the internet. And even if you could find it, odds are the craftsman in question isn’t going to bother to lay out every aspect of what he’s doing.
>>221264227Gloria ate it all.
>>221264738This also looks like an unfunny piece of shit
>>221264476The guy probably just hate white people
>>221264476Nobody is to blame. Responsibility is just too diffuse in modern society. The idea that something can be pinned on as vague and abstract a thing as a generation is just retarded. The problem is systemic not individual or personalized.
>>221264303No.
Translation: We fired all the white and asian guys that were doing this to reach DEI goals. I promise you if you set autistic white and asian guys on the job they'd figure it out in less than a week.
but there's a making of Shrek somewhere, i've seen it, it was like some 3D mapping or rotoscope mixture, are they retarded?
>>221264893Fuck man, can't believe DEI killed Shrek 5. White culture is being fucking genocided.
>>221264933I clearly meant that white and asian nerds would be able to figure out how to recreate the animation technology that made classic dreamworks, but please be a total dipshit
>>221264227Any other examples where technology was lost over time?
Sorry but there are too many crack babies and third worlders if we're pretending Dreamworks was ever good.
>>221264444>theres no such thing as "lost knowledge" in the internet age.you couldn't be more fucking wrong lmao. websites go down all the time without notice. most of the "old" internet is dead and gone. news articles are lost all the time, they're probably the most notorious for disappearing. if you care about this stuff, donate to archive.org NOW. they're doing one of the greatest services to humanity and they almost got taken down by greedy faggot companies upset they had copyrighted material they forgot about and they didn't get their cut>>221264476??? nigga losing shit is just something civilizations do. pretty much all the plays and shit from ancient greece are gone. we only have a shocking few of them.
I would like to know how modern DreamWorks would animate a Shark Tale sequel
>>221264952Anon the OP is an actual meme but ofc you fell for it hook line and sinker and started screeching about /pol/ buzzwords
>>221264985uh guys
>>221265015Holy shit. That one is a little too sus.
>>221264476>That they are the ones failing to pass on the knowledgeMore like they never had the knowledge passed on to them, can't teach what you don't know
>>221264227AI will do it.
Antz and Shrek 1 are kino. I'm sure Tusker also would've been kino, if it wasn't cancelled
>>221265046This. The animators are the problem. Fire them all and completely replace them with AI
>>221264859Goddamm these 14 seconds alone have much more sovl than any slop that came during these past 20 years
>>221264476>are the ones failing to pass on the knowledge*failing to pick up the knowledge
Madagascar 1 is a good film
90s and 2000s 3D animated films would have typically been made by a lot of traditionally trained 2D artists/animators struggling to get the relatively clunky 3D animation software to accurately capture their 2D skills. Nowadays I would imagine that the majority of professional 3D animators can use the software very efficiently, but have very underdeveloped 2D drawing training/skills. That's not to say that 3D animators are inherently inferior, I just think there's an added level of creativity and understanding that's fostered when an artist has had the experience of creating the illusion of characters and objects existing (and moving) in a 3D space on a blank canvas.
>>221264303>>221264858
>>221265393HOLY SHIT
>>221265423>>221265393
>>221265015Yeah most of Hollywood is pedophiles, where you been at?
>>221264476I am pretty sure the Shrek crew were mostly boomers and Gen X
>>221264749>le agedNobody used to talk like even a decade ago. People watch Casablanca or Goodfellas or Chinatown to enjoy a story. Movies were treated like snapshots of a time forgotten or time capsules. Presentism and that modernist lens robs people of partaking in a good movie simply because it is old or "aged LE BAD".
>>221265393here, NOW it is funny
>>221265015
>>221265781>mostlythe oldest millennials wood of still ben in college aged when Shrek comed out and wood of ben in high school when it was been making
>>221264272I've seen it mostly on /v/
>>221265015based nooticer
>>221264972mirrors in video games, it just cannot be done anymorehttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/737390797/#737390797or game optimization, that secret was lost with the ancientshttps://arch.b4k.dev/v/thread/740513408/#740513408
>>221265823needs an unregistered hypercam in the top
>>221264749how 'bout i rape you?
>>221264227kinos about forgotten technology?
>>221265008Fall for what? It is obviously true if you hire for race instead of talent, the quality of the product will drop.
>>221264476you retarded nigger, millennials were children and teenagers when shrek came out
>>221265015Gas the kikes.
>>221264227if this is what we've come to, then maybe we should stop making movies.https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Pov0MKuyJfg&ra=m
>>221264227And people jeer on the 40k blurb about futuristic technology they can no longer create nor properly maintain.
>>221264331Wasn't it strange how after the moon landings, pedowood releases a bunch of movies showing moon landings being filmed in a studio? It's like they are mocking us.Even Austin powers had one.
>>221264227What's wrong with the new Shrek?
>>221264227I'm pretty sure they said the exact same thing when people were talking about the animation in the new King of the Hill season
>>221266646Buy an ad.
>>221267059Just nostalgiafagging. These people really want you to believe early Shrek was the pinnacle of animation.
>>221264476>>221264227>>221266592Shrek came out in 2001. Milennials are those born between 1981 and 1996. When Shrek was first released, the milennials were between the ages of 5 and 20 years old.With Shrek 5 coming out in 2027, milennials will be between the ages of 31 and 46.
>>221264838low iq doomers hate to hear that. they need a villain for their stories
>>221264371I actually own that book. The first pages are a great read, and the rest is hyper technical (and very useful for animators).It's like a perfect book but if you expect to read history and fun tidbits like this one, they're only in the first 10 pages or so. Everything else is techniques
>>221264471next you'll say that jet fuel can melt steel beams
>>221268769>and the rest is hyper technical (and very useful for animators).>Everything else is techniquesisnt that the fucking point? it wasnt written for reddit updoots
>>221268854yes now read the next line of my post
>>221264227The Father in law's name? Adolf Hitler
>>221264227This board is nothing but fake news now.
>>221268934I read this in Norm Macdonald's voice
>>221264331Moon landing deniers are anti-white.
>>221264272We still have Morrowind
>>221265050What was that about even?
Shrek is drek
Reminder the first Shrek movie had a scene parodying The Matrix.
The original Shrek movies look like diarrhea. Always did.
>>221264577>that shit is not getting put online and is only what 0.000001% of the information out there on paper that isn'tThis, and even when it's actually online it's behind a paywall, and the info that's accesible to regular people is just grossly oversimplified or outdated, often written by a journo or something, but that's what ends up getting repeated ad nauseam by midwits.
>>221264227>We have lost the Shreknology...Technically yesUnfortunately all these chucklefucks use Unreal Engine now
>>221264227should say "jeets make it now thats why its shit"
>>221269230I guess Source Filmmaker never took off.
>>221269290Shrek is anti-hindu so jeets don't work on it at all.
>>221264227is no one going to comment on the obvious ESL twitter post?
>>221265937>mirrors in video games, it just cannot be done anymoreonly if your engine is shit, io has had functioning mirrors in their games for yearshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E_WC03Wm7OA
>>221267059This Cocomelon-adjacent, soulless artstyle is catering to kids and low IQ people. Everything looks smooth and clean, and Shrek looks younger than he did in the first film.
>>221266557not my shrek
>>221264444That is simply not true in the slightest, many things will never get uploaded by the people in the know, for instance almost no one who operates a cargo ship now would be able to accurately navigate without their gps.When it comes to animation a lot of the original techniques from the golden age were lost, they tried their best to piece it together from some of the older non dementia ridden animators, but it wasn't everything.In jazz because of a craze for the ukelele in the 1920's sheet music stopped adding the bass clef, this eventually led to the people learning them playing the wrong chords, and now most jazz standard barely resemble the original pieces of music. Even when I worked as a framer so much of what the older generation knew was simply lost, or knowledge that only a select few had.No matter what information will always be lost by new people thinking the old way was stupid
>>221264564>You're welcome to show me the complaints about picrel's animation1. The jittery "intentional low fps" style is really fucking annoying.2. There's like 50 extreme closeups of characters doing an ebic facial expression, it happens constantly
>>221264476Yeah bruh zoomers be tryin ta make bussin shrek sequels but the evil millennials won't pass on the knowledge bruh: skull
>Shrek was made with Pacific Data Images' (PDI) proprietary 3D animation system, not a single commercial software package >The original PDI studio in Palo Alto was shut down after the merger with Dreamworks, and the old technology was phased out Its the fault of the money men and managers. Shrek is treated like property, not Art. Just like the dinosaurs in JP move and look more fake in the sequels.There is so much 90s code that is esoteric, and will be lost knowledge. There’s so many competent animators that have been fired over the years. 00s movies look so bad because they were trying to save money.
>>221264476Can't we all just come together and blame it all on the next generation of kids?
>>221264371Holy shit is this the scottish nigga? He came to my university pretty cool guy but this literally sums up the world, every kid around me in the uni couldnt draw and all were bring ideas and things from stuff they'd seen in the past 10-15 years, they weren't researching older generational cartoons or old animation styles it was all pixar shitand yes i did do animation, was a total mess and would never recommnd it to anyone creative just do your own shit, youll get further
>>221264371So it all comes down to people heavily leaning on technology, without first knowing the bare bones.Sounds like all other aspects of art and tech?
>>221264331GOOD MROENING SARS!
>>221264952>classic DreamWorkslol zoomers are legitimately retarded
>>221270554>Shrek is treated like property, not ArtOh noooo fuck bros why aren't we showing Shrek in the Louvre???
>>221264227Shrek is a beautiful Jewish-American story about trying to fit in with goyim. This design is actually closer to the original illustrations. Dont forget to thank us for creating American culture!
>>221270881esl
>>221264597Even as a kid I knew the animation in Shrek was low quality even for the time. Not defending the new movie btw.
>>221272311>Bro i-it was always bad, i-i swearthe only thing more pathetic than this is thinking we believe you lol
>>221264564> muh slop-mo "action" scenes to save on cost.This movie was awful to physically look at.
>>221267140lmao they didn't have mocap for Shrek's walking animation?
>>221272372It is an ugly movie with ugly, stiff characters. It only works because Shrek himself is supposed to be ugly.
The only thing missing is quality drugs. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CLnADKgurvc
>>221268994Blocks your pathhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9_bPFmVVlFk
As someone who's never seen Shrek and doesn't watch animation anymore (except the occasional 90s anime for nostalgia)... can someone explain what the fuck is happening? What is the difference here?
>>221264227Posting Richard Williams again because he saw what was happening and was horrified by it.
>>221264227>We... we lost the technology
>>221272558Many people perceive the new animation style way worse than the usual. It also reminds them of AI generated stuff. The thing I notice most is all the light reflection they added, they all seem pretty high, also.
>>221264272Yup, I've seen it used as an excuse when people defend 3D CG animation over hand-drawn 2D animation.
>>221272647Yes but can someone explain what's different?Light reflection is probably something that can be turned up or down in the rendering engine, so it can't just be that.
>1: Andrew Adamson, Vicky Jenson>2: Andrew Adamson, Conrad Vernon, Kelly Asbury>3: Chris Miller, Raman Hui>4: Mike Mitchell>5: Conrad Vernon, Walt Dohrn, Brad AblesonWhy does only Shrek 1 have a woman director?
>>221264303Just burn yourself you fucking moron.
You aren't a true Shrek fan if you haven't watched Antz
Bump
>>221264476>muh generation war
>>221273936Made for Moto Moto.
>>221264331>because it was obviously all a scam done on a soundstageevery moon landing conspiracy has been debunked a hundred times over.USA won, get over it igor
>>221264227What's the difference in the style?
>Antz>The Prince of Egypt>The Road to El Dorado>Chicken Run>Joseph: King of Dreams>ShrekShrek is the sixth animation movie by DreamWorks. It was made by the same division behind Antz, which had to face a lot of new challenges on Shrek (human skin, clothes, hair, lava, mud, milk, etc)
>>221273955
>"That's great. Well, gotta go. My show's on">(retreats to his shell and the Benny Hill theme is instantly heard)
Shrek is easily the best of the first six CGI movies by DreamWorks
>>221274624Both Madagascar and SharkTale looked better.
>>221265809Yes anon some things do not stand the test of time. Surely you are aware of the dark age of animation right? Right? Where are all of those timeless classics? Oh right they were shit, aged horribly and were left to die. You fucking moron.
>>221274624That's an extremely low bar
Shark Tale might have the greatest logo joke at the start of an animation movie
>>221264227The same people making these shittier things will tell you that AI is bad because it robs real artists of work.The sooner Hollywood burns and a competent AI takes over the better. Nepotism has destroyed the arts.
>>221264476The romans made pillars, to work loads underwater, that self repaired cracks when they were damaged.We DO NOT know how the mortar was done.Those pillars still exist, the knowledge is lost.Or rather, it was common knowlege back then and every mason knew how to do it because it's a common job on public display, I have no doubt that some jews under free research money cracked the thing in 2026, patent it, and that's why nobody uses it.
>>221264227>>221264371Feels like more and more knowledge is forgotten as time progresses.
>>221276797It's fake you idiot. That "we literally don't know how" line has been used for many stories.
Sharktalefag has entered the chat
>>221276878It does happen thoughAfter the treaties on nuclear weapons where the number of warheads was capped, we stopped building new ones. Now that the old warheads are reaching the end of their life, we need to replace them, and have to re-learn how to build them from scratch. The last generation that figured it all out wrote down a lot, obviously, but it was so classified and a lot got lost for administrative reasons. And even then, most details and techniques were still in peoples heads, and then they all retired and died off. It doesn't take that big of a time gap or knowledge to go away.
>>221264303>>221265393>>221265652>>221265710hahaha classic
>>221264471yeah bro epstein killed himself too lol
>>221264513Gen X was the last pre-participation trophy and feelings must be protected at all costs generation so no, that's not the case at all. They might be apathetic but they're technically competent.
>>221264371>the kids mobbed me to learn anything they could, indicating the repeated premise of kids not wanting to learn was patently false>luckily I was able to escape teaching them anything and have the opportunity to just bitch about it to my rich friendsThis guy is a fucking faggot and the exact cause of everything he’s complaining about, what the fuck
>>221273168Kino
>>221272067NTA but wouldn't that be the point?
>"A Shark Tale exclusive"
I got one for you guys:Between 1969 and 2003, 2.5 million people "allegedly" traveled from New York to London in under three hoursNow everybody knows that's bullshit, since that flight takes at least eight hours these daysMy question is, how'd they pull off such a hoax? And to what end? Just to psyop us?My theories:>they simply drugged the people as they boarded, making them think time went faster>the Atlantic Ocean used to be smaller back then and it was stretched>all 2.5 million of the fags who claim they were on the "airplane" were actually Mossad agents/CGI
>>221264859was that one night voiced by the guy that also voiced Fallout's The Master?
>>221277495We can't have supersonic consumer hair travel because of climate change hysteria. No one can go there without being attacked by the woke climatescolds.
>>221269866This post makes me sad anon, because you're right about all of these. Important knowledge gets lost all the time. You mentioning carpenters is especially on the nose, because all of that speciality tradesmen knowledge is dying by the day with those old boomers and silent generation men. It's an indictment of what we value as a society, and what we value now is fucking garbage.
>>221264331>>221268994>>221270881Kek this site is a comedy gold mine
>>221264272Like anon said, it's an old riff on the moon landing. We haven't gone back because we've "lost the technology."
>>221272526I became a drunk because of Dumbo.
>>221264312What tech heresy is this? That clearly a necron in a robe.
>>221265823>>221264227i got you on the next step
thoughts on Shrek's kids?
>>221278279smoking is haram
>>221278279Why ia nature's tranny smoking a cig?
>>221273168That bug war scene gave me PTSD as a kid kek
>>221278235Lmao. Now save it as a gif.
>>221264303My father in law is a shitposter. So I asked him why didn't they keep the old posting style of 4channel dot org. I will never forget his answer......"We can't, we don't know how to do it."
>>221264227its looks better though
>>221264331Or maybe there was a massive national industry subsidized 100% by the US government to build giant fuck off rockets to get to the moon, and once that was done several times the space race was won and public attention went to the next big thing and there was no justification to keep the bespoke plants created to build giant fuck off rockets to get people to the moon had no reason to keep making those engines. As for why NASA didn't do MORE with manned exploration, its a simple as a double-tap of boondoggles. Go look at the actual development of the space shuttle, its a comedy of governmental incompetence where a bunch of different agencies and departments got involved making demands so they could ALSO use it. It resulted in obscene feature creep, compromise, and the end result being a piece of shit that didn't do anything anyone wanted. The original plan for the space shuttle program is that they would be created in a production line. Eventually the government got tired of burning money an we wound up with five prototypes (enterprise never went into space, but was just tested in atmosphere) that had to be torn down and rebuilt after every launch. After that was the space station Freedom, which was another case of a government project over running its budget and scope, constantly delayed, and so much cost had been sunk that eventually its bastardized compromise the ISS was put into service. Since so much money had been spent on the Shuttle AND the ISS NASA was forced to center all manned space exploration around them to justify the funding to keep them limping along. I wish I could find it but Zubrin gave a great interview about how nasa was basically hamstrung by those. When he was going to do the mars mission in the 00's, he figured out how to do it in two shots, but NASA insisted the ISS be central to the mission which means you had to make three trips to get the same payloads because braking at the ISS is a waste of fuel doesn't make any sense.
>>221276296A quick google search says that we don't use it even though it's been cracked because it takes years to fully cure, you can't put rebar in it, and so it takes too long and it's weaker than modern stuff. So it's great and long lasting underwater but not something you can use to build a skyscraper with.
>>221277554>consumer hair travellel I just read something in the news the other day about another break through in making a commercial airliner that can "softly" break the sound barrier. The real problem with going hyper sonic is its really disruptive and there are only a few places where a pilot is allowed to do it. I remember being a kid in the carolinas there was a fighter pilot who was fucking around, or thought he was in the wrong place, and there was this massive sonic boom over the entire town while we were at school. And with international data being basically instantaneous and not bottlenecked to a handfull of transoceanic copper cables there isn't the same demand to get to europe or asia that fast. Especially when first class international travel on classier airlines is nicer than my dumpy little apartment.
>>221264972Wait. Wait. We know that the Krauts has MUCH more efficient crematoriums back in the 1930s and 1940s and they were preserved as historical sites. The Italians are just being lazy. You'd think a country famous for pizza would have better oven technology.
>>221278591>Or maybe there was a massive national industry subsidized 100% by the US governmentim not reading all this fed copeyou write essays about budgets to distract from the literal tv director of the whole showthe guy who did the "impossible" cinematic tracking shot of the module blasting off the moon while supposedly dealing with a 3 second blind radio delay perfectly keeping it in frame was the comms guy ed fendellif you read the houston oral history transcripts he literally referred to himself as the "super jew" and his nickname with the crew was GOLDFINGERthey flew him to germany to give him a secret golden hand award for his tracking shot on a kubrick soundstage and you guys are still crying about space station payloads lmaofiltered by a tv producer named goldfinger. embarassinghttps://www.nasa.gov/wp-content/uploads/2025/07/brooksmf-3-25-00.pdf
This was CGI from 2006.
>>221264331>thinks the "moon landing" was something that actually aired on TV and wasn't a mass hallucination event are you retarded?
>>221266557looks like one of those mr beast photoshoped faces
>>221264227modern animators from Cal Arts, etc are trained monkeys and don't have unique styles.
>Victoria JensonThey were the first CGI movies to have a woman among the directors
>>221280559Shrek had two directors. Shark Tale had three
The animation is fine, it's clearly modern tech with an aged up Shrek model. I don't see why people are soi-ing out over that.The real problem will always be the humour. The first Shrek is the closest to a timeless story following the fairy tale format but then the series nosedives immediately into referenceslop. Shrek 2 was hailed as a GOAT for about 10 years, don't go back to watch it now because about every single joke in that movie is some 2000's "current thing".The new Shrek will be the same but is fucked because the "current thing" jokes will be like 2 years out of date. When Donkey says 67, it wont land the way the writers think.
>"It was an improvement over Shrek 1"That's like saying Super Mario Sunshine was an improvement over Super Mario 64
>>221264331Where's the scam??
