how exactly is there a current flowing through a battery that's not connected to anything?
Its not, that's the point dumbass
Infetterance
>>221271855how could that possibly be the point?
>>221271873He's not actually allergic to electricity
>>221271929yea and there is no electricity running through a disconnected battery. chuck should know that. he even explains it with connected circuitry and the inverse square law.
>>221271857I don't think that's a real word.
>>221271825>>221271873>>221271956there's is no electricity running through a shut-off appliance because the electricity is coming from somewhere else. A battery contains a current, even if it doesn't run. Chuck believes that's how his illness works so it's relevant
>>221271956>chuck should know that.But he acted like he didn't. Also he is a lawyer not an electrician
>>221272016>A battery contains a currentNope you should go back to high school to learn how electricity works.
>>221271825Interlinked, Chuck was a replicant.
>>221272032okay retard you know what I meant. Keep pretending to be stupid
>>221272052If anyone is pretending to be stupid is clearly you, I'm just trying to educate your uncultured swine ass
>>221272080you lost the argument so you changed the topic to to physics. Take your meds + chill out
>>221271980it's a perfectly cromulent word
>>221272147Topic has not changed you're just making shit up because you felt you loss an online argument nobody gives a shit about
>>221271956many people loudly yell their partial knowledge to hide the fact that it's partial knowledge
>>221272178You want a reasonable excuse?A battery contains electric charge which has an unlimited range of effect (even though it is subject to the inverse square rule).Chuck is a lawyer and is unlikely to know the difference.
>>221272230>unlimited range of effect
>>221271956Because Chuck is wrong and doesn’t know it, no matter how much he claims to have sources and scientific knowledge, and that’s the point
>>221272276i find it hard to believe that this is the writers intention when it would be much less confusing and more reasonable to plant something on chuck that simply has a current running through it.
>>221272250Hmmm...?Yes, an electric charge induces a force on other electric charges regardless of the distance between them, though it might take time for the other charge to be subjected to the force due to light speed delay, and the magnitude of the force will be inversely proportional to the square of the distance.
>>221272298and legitimize his reflexive throwing of the battery like it's hot?
>>221272578nothing would have been legitimized. he didn't feel a thing for one hour and fourty three minutes and suddenly his illness kicks in not even when he touches it but only once he realized what it is
How could you spergs possibly argue back and forth this much over such a simple moment. Autistic freaks
>>221272626/thread
The mind is a very powerful thing and it can certainly make you believe you're physically ill even when all actual evidence points to the contrary. If you're delusional enough to believe you're ill, then you will be ill
>>221272626it reflects on the intelligence and skill of the writers. you seem low iq.>>221272659don't you fucking /thread my thread asshole
>>221271873Another example of the hundreds of found on this board of "too dumb for kino". Kino is presented to them and they literally don't get it because they're too stupid so they think it's bad.
>>221272298Chuck's illness was already proved to be purely mental the first time he gets hospitalized. When his doctor secretly turns on the hospital bed without Chuck noticing to show Jimmy.It literally doesn't matter how a battery works, because Chuck still thinks he's allergic to it either way, when he isn't.Pay attention next time. The show gave you everything you needed
>>221272699how can you miss the point so hard? you have to be trolling
>>221272725Perhaps you should pay attention when watching a show instead of browsing tiktok. Or maybe you would have had an easier time paying attention of Subway Surfers was above it and GTA was below it?
>>221272768i knew it. here is your (You)
>there are actually fucking retards on this board who think Chuck was allergic to electricity
it's a goofy ass rechargeable cell battery from well in to the era of enshittification and probably is discharging electricity at all times to power some internal """""""""""""""""""""""""features""""""""""""""""""""""""""" like constantly tracking how much charge it's losing so the company can keep track of how much shittier their batteries are than normal batteries.
>>221272725>how can you miss the point of me denying the point of this detail?Your point is that it doesn’t make sense, and you’re asked for an explanation. Which is to say, you weren’t making a point, you were asking us to help you to one
>>221272834>gets mad at a finicky question and decided to stab at like five different eras, products and institutions in his frustrationLmao
>>221272860I don't know who you think I am or why you're having a melty about a simple observation
>>221272839my point actually is that the writers made a mistake in this scene
>>221272869Nah just the standalone post is funny because this stupid question provoked you to lash out at like everything nearby it. That’s funny.
>>221272887Listen this whole thing where we pretend the world is aways in error if we don’t at first have an understanding of it, is precisely what makes some of us so stupid. I mean we go decades missing a basic point, ignoring a subtext, mocking a willful anomaly, and laughing about it as if it was just some retarded fuck-up. But a lot of the times, we’re just fighting and protesting the real answer when it’s already been given to you. It happens and can be avoided. There are larger answers here beyond ‘the writers dont know what a battery is and therefore the scene is broken’
>>221271825Internal resistance, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internal_resistance
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>>221271956Yup. Yet he claimed even having batteries in his house can cause pain
This was truly when Jimmy became Saul. Scamming his own brother and ruining his career
>>221272230>contains electric chargeNo it contains chemicals and metals. Oxidization of metal releases energy, oxidization is basically burning.
>>221272162Cromulent is an actual word now. It's even in dictionary plugins.
you know originally the writers had planned to make it a CPU but the executives feared that the audience wouldn't get it, so they had to make it a battery insteadthat's why this has caused so much confusion over the years
>>221273005With his last mooched nickel Jimmy sneaked off to the battery and fucked the law. Of all the cheap lousy tricks, Jimmy to turn the law on your own brother. Another…We had a good thing here Jimmy, good for another, maybe, fifty thousand years and you, you cheap little rat, called the law so now we all have to pay. How you ever got to that battery beats the shit out of me. We had you covered, pegged out, cooled, knocked out, blued, greened, the lot. Where is Mike? Who let this little bastard get to that battery? Of all the cheap tricks Jimmy, of all the lousy grassy rat tricks; with your last mooched nickel; Slippin Jimmy called the law. So now we all have to pay. Smart little bastard standing there with his pockets inside out. Very funny, Jimmy, very funny. Sooner or later some mark we thought we had cooled or some little rat like Jimmy sneaks off and calls the heat on all of us. Now, Jimmy - you know why we never liked you? You and Huell, what was wrong with both of you from the jump? Wrong bastards, wrong copper loving bastards. Wise up the marks - Jimmy the rat has done it again. But how, how, how? Where was everybody when he sneaked out that battery?
>>221273082A CPU? You think the point is that it should be as big an electronic as possible, to show he is most crazy? The battery isn’t what turns the court, in fact its when when Chuck’s defense says ‘even if my client was crazy’ that causes Chuck go go off and reveal his open desire to sabotage Jimmy in his tirade. Chuck isn’t even under scrutiny until he starts yelling and accidentally confesses a motive to frame Jimmy. Prior to that, the court’s only concern was if this was falsely submitted evidence or extra-legal trickery on Jimmy’s part. You hadn’t noticed that, though
And to make it even clearer, Jimmy’s plan was not to show the court Chuck wasn’t actually affected by a battery, Jimmy’s plan was to force Chuck to defend that he is not crazy, and fail, to a court that had already accepted prior Chuck was mentally ill
>>221271956a battery has 'internal resistance' which is used to explain why battery has a use by date because it is constantly discharging very slowlyhowever its more likely that he doesn't like the electromagnetic field and as we all know a magnetic field is created by VARYING electric field/(current) so even if the battery was in something it might not necessarily hurt him in this manner (maybe he is affected by something else however).Mains electricity being AC has an electromagnetic field even when 'no' current is flowing (there is still capacitive coupling etc etc)>>221272699hospital is full of electrical and electronic equipment. chuck probably can feel electric all around him and is suffering, there is nothing to say that switching the bed on and off locally would be noticeable to him in all the noise surrounding.
>>221273206I'm pretty sure the plan was to make him have a schizo melty about his obvious mental illness and make it obvious to the court that everything he does is simply because he hates his own brother (for no reason deeper than the fact that Jimmy is more likeable, whatever excuses he may give)
>>221273025>Lithium ion battery.>Ion
>>221273254Yes, which Jimmy provokes by forcing Chuck to display symptoms of his mental illness that his defense would have to identify as such
>>221273252Well the thing is, Chuck just needed a reason to isolate himself and explain his total discomfort in public and being accessed by phone, and he made up the whole electric allergy because of that, specifically by denying abundant scientific evidence no such thing exists. So Chuck can believe or deny anything he wants, because its his delusion in the first place. All he has to do is say battery scientists are hacks or they dont know about his new discovery of the secret evil battery field
>>221273252>there is nothing to say that switching the bed on and off locally would be noticeable to him in all the noise surrounding.Except in that very scene, he reacts to the devices, including the bed, in the room being switched off, it suddenly "cures" him the moment he can't visually identify any electrical devices on.
>>221271825No such thing as electromagnetic allergy and 5g, we still dont know how magnets work
>>221273295Him being a raging asshole with a giant yet incredibly fragile ego and deep seated resentment against his brother has nothing to do with his delusional panic disorder at a surface level - everyone knew about the latter and quietly accepted it as BS that they would have to put up with, the former was what Jimmy needed him to crack and show.
>>221272178the topic was plot and narrative. You switched to physics the moment you noticed you were losing and you'd have to resort to non-sequitur tangents to save your izzat
>>221273448Because he has a mental illness of association of existential anxiety either electricity. He convinced himself it was electronics that make him panic, not social/reality contact, so now when he sees electronics he gets the panic once belonging to public anxiety
>>221272032i put my tongue on a battery in elementary school fuckwad, it has a current
>>221273464His delusional panic disorder evolved from within an asshole who hates Jimmy. He was an asshole Jimmy-hater before, and he got crazier and worse and one of his delusional mental illnesses developed fixated on Jimmy
>>221272626not either of them but where do you think you are?I once got into an argument about the metallurgic contents of a candlestick in 1815
>>221273257Same thing. The oxidized metal has the potential to release energy through transfer of ions but it's just a solid stable metal in a chemical soup. There's no "range of effect" until current flows through a wire.
>>221273509Exactly my point. He's desperate for control, so the moment the hospital is seen to acquiesce to his demand for all devices to be switched off, he's fine, but if anyone subverts him without him noticing it, by doing something like switching on a bed out of his visual field, or hiding a battery in his pocket it doesn't affect him one bit. But when he discovers the trickery, that he was in fact not in total control, his mind throws a fit. The very essence of his made up disorder is the demand that everyone inconveniences themselves to placate him. When they treat him with anything other than worship and admiration, he lashes out or falls apart.
>>221273025>>221273630This doesn't matter for Chuck's psychosis even if he does understand electricity. Chuck reacts instinctively out of habit.
This thread is about a scene in Better Call Saul — Jimmy slips a battery into Chuck's pocket to test his claimed "electricity allergy."OP is technically correct on the physics:- A battery not connected to a circuit has no current flowing through it. A battery only has a potential difference (voltage). Current requires a closed circuit.- A disconnected battery also doesn't emit significant electromagnetic radiation.But OP is drawing the wrong conclusion from the scene:That's actually the whole point of the plot. Chuck claims he can "feel" electricity, but he didn't notice the battery in his pocket at all for about 1 hour 43 minutes. He only reacted after being told it was there — proving his condition is psychosomatic, not real.The scene is actually scientifically accurate: a disconnected battery emits no meaningful EMF, so Chuck couldn't feel anything. What he "felt" was just the suggestion once he knew it was there.Verdict: OP is right about the physics (no current = no EMF), but misunderstands the scene's purpose. Anon at >>221271855 nailed it: "Its not, that's the point dumbass."
written properly the scene would go like this:>*pulls battery out of pocket*>*surprised pikachu face*>jimmy there is no current running through a disconnected battery, of course i would not feel it>*jimmy loses, no chicanery*
Relevant use case for this story dilemma - Am I a delusional asshole for taking my doctor seriously but still treating it as ‘you work for me’? I find it helps me to be actually honest with doctors if I sort of treat myself as a soldier working his engine hard taking it into the shop for severe damage. ‘Yep my machine been drinking that much for over ten years, what’s the damage?’
>>221273662Holy shit OP btfo
I know I’m not smarter than you. You had disadvantages. You’re insane
>>221273662hello sarr many electricies used in making this post
>>221273829>tfw have to wear aluminum foil in my anti-electricty bunker or else the tiny jeets will shit on me through the electrons
Actually that’s a good idea. Electricity becoming a corrupt force because indian shit particles are bonding to the electrons through telecommunications abuse
>>221273876new movie by m night shyamalan
>>221273630current is the movement of charges, a charged particle induces a force on other particles with an electric charge regardless of movement.A disconnected battery still has a voltage which is an electric charge imbalance.
but in real court, the aspect of electromagnetic ptsd would clearly be acknowledge, so even an idea of an electric device can trigger a real feel of pain in the person, real, fake, connected or disconnected.
>>221274000That’s what the defense was correctly pushing for ‘even if my client was crazy…’, and he would have been right and Jimmy would have lost that argument. But Chuck was quickly offended by that defense and confessed his desire/motive to disbar Jimmy by any means necessary during his rant. It wasn’t just the out or even the battery showing the illness wasn’t physical - Chuck confessed to the court he always wanted Jimmy out of law since the beginning by any means necessary, making Chuck’s claim of forgery against Jimmy look like something Chuck drummed up just to get Jimmy disbarred
>>221273921>A disconnected battery still has a voltageSo does a potato. At what point does the potential for future current have an "unlimited range of effect" and through what means since it's not affecting the electromagnetic field?
>>221274123It wasnt just the outburst*
>>221274132There's an electrostatic field.Man, I'm kinda tired of this, just read up on the subject.Your lack of understanding regarding electric charges is very telling.
>>221274235>>221274132This entire argument is a retarded distraction
I wish this series hadn't become cartelslop by the end, Lalo was so fucking cringe and Gus was nowhere near as cool as he was in BB
>>221274310and you're nowhere near as smart or cultured as you were in 2011
>>221274407What’s gotten into you
>>221274407Somebody's mad lmao
>>221274235>Spouts a bunch of bullshit with poor elaboration>Called out on it>Man I'm tired, go read upLmao
>>221274407Owned those fags. Look at how angry they are.
>>221273170I think anon was talking about what happened with the Matrix and is just trolling
CHICANERY
>>221271825an electric charge generate electric field even if stationary
Op sucks battery powered dildos.I don't even know how somebody so retarded could even find BCS to watch in the first place.
>>221277468Anon, do you think a battery is just a container full of electricity? The battery is practically inert if there aren't leads connected to each end to create a circuit there is nothing that brings electrons across the metals in the battery that creates the electricity. You can get an EM detector and its not going to pick up a charged battery that is just sitting there.
>>221272626This.
>>221277612you don't even understand my post. what does that make you?
