GOOD GOD ALMIGHTYTHEY'VE KILLED HIM
i was a little kid during the attitude era. nothing will ever be that cool again.
BAW GOD
>>221275273This was the greatest moment in the history of wrestling
>>221275340i knew a few fans of wrestling, they were all fat or spics or both.this has always been the domain of the scum of america. fat poor retards. ironic that a lot of wrestlers are smarter than their fans.
why are /pol/tards such roodypoo candy-asses?
>>221277355>I'm not a /pol/ poster because I self censor when saying nigger and faggot for approval of my racist /pol/ friends online
>>221277416lmao you obnoxious faggots aren't my friends.
>>221277552Who am I? Maybe I'm the person who's approval you were looking for.
>>221277573It doesn't matter what your name is
>>221277355they're the easiest marks in the business
YOU SEE /TV/...IN THIS BUSINESS...
>>221275273how the fuck did he walk that off?
HH BROTHER
>>221275273How the hell is Mick Foley still alive and not quadraspazzed on a lifeglug?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MVRiPCgVuto&t=1151Benoit does a few kayfabe headbutts and goes crazy, Mick takes 10+ chairshots unprotected and he's just fine.
>>221278135nothing in life is certain. there's only spectrums and ranges. does a life of pro wrestling significantly increase your chances of developing CTE? absolutely, but it's not a guarantee. and then if you do get it, does it manifest itself the same exact way in everyone? absolutely not. also benoit was juicing hard. i don't think mick ever did. also i think mick has had severe short term memory problems or something for awhile
>>221275273Been a long time, like 20 years, since I've watched any wrestling, used to really WCW and WWF when I was a kid. Is there anything happening in modern pro wrestling that's remotely this interesting or badass?
Pro-wrestling is something that has peaked, it will never be better than it was in the 2000s.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y4JoVecKu9I&t=1071They would never find people willing to put their bodies through this much torment again, they wouldn't legally be allowed to do it, and really I suppose we shouldn't want them to do it.
>>221275273Is ufc better than wrestling?
>>221278265They had a good thing going 2022-2025ish but then Triple Nose fumbled.The recent highlight was the El Grande Americano saga, partially because a bunch of shit happened that made it organic.
>>221278294their WM2000 match, TLC 1, and this one are fucking legendary.
>>221278462Hmmm okay.I just remembered, maybe I should check out Japanese wrestling. I come across random clips online sometimes and it seems fun and enjoyable.
>>221278013Reminder that hulk Hogan is hispanic.
>>221275273I miss old school wrestling. It's gay now. It's said to death, but once Rock and Austin left, it was never the same.It's a miracle Mick is even alive, let alone can even walk. He should at least be in a freaking coma. God bless him
>>221278490Fucking sad to see the state of their bodies today. They move so slowly, they're clearly in so much pain.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRymHlUoWUQ&t=1173Because of the WWE's scummy anti-union policies they probably never got paid what they deserved.
>>221277354how is that ironic? thats expected, they're rich actors
>>221277552everyone but you are my friends on here
>>221275340The Attitude Era was unbridled kino.Even the divas were better. Yeah they couldn't wrestle, but they looked hot. Vince gave the people what they wanted. Now there's like 6,000,000 more of them, 95% are ugly as fuck, they're all covered up, and they still can't wrestle.Other things fucked it too. TLC and HiaC were cool matches you rarely seen. Then it was just like "bro stick them on raw lol" and it took the novelty away. Obviously the internet and openly breaking character in public didn't help. It's weird how many wrestlers I used to like as a kid then they started doing podcasts and things and I see how most of them are complete pricks.
>>221275273Watching this live was a high I’ve been chasing for almost 30 years now
>>221277416newfag spotted
>>221278803>Even the divas were better. Yeah they couldn't wrestle, but they looked hot. Vince gave the people what they wanted. Now there's like 6,000,000 more of them, 95% are ugly as fuck, they're all covered up, and they still can't wrestle.You might like Joshi wrestling.Japanese women, and they're still hot. Still can't wrestle though.
>>221278858I shall be checking this out. I hope they're half nude.
>>221278803>I see how most of them are complete pricks.like who? most of the wrestlers i've seen do youtube videos seem pretty happy and stuff to relive the glory days. even people like bischoff, someone that anyone who wasn't in hogan's inner circle have said was a clueless retard that ran wcw into the ground, are still good storytellers
>>221279043They're saying it's the least fake wrestling has ever been.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6cclM7I6U8
>Hi, Lloyd.>Hi, Harry.>How was your day?>Not bad. Fell off the jetway again.
>Have a bad day>Put on a Hardy Boys vs E&C vs Dudleyz match>Have a good dayMan, I miss it.
they always paywalled the good stuff
Hot take: Russo’s retardkino with WCW 2000 & TNA from 2002 - early 2011 is more entertaining than a chunk of WWF’s attitude era.
>>221275273Watching this match live when I was 11 was one of the greatest moments in my young life.I thought I watched someone I loved die twice, I was screaming and jumping around like a maniac.
>>221279451Their theme from then was so much better than their later ones.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-McLe-hyj1g&t=121
for me it's the dudley boyz power bombing the granny
>>221275340>substitute teacher tries to introduce themselves>pic related
>>221279451>>221279553Meant to also link the E&C theme.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcT7hS-Cd2wYou are lost. You are scared. You know what I allow you to know.
>>221279582I remember being like 14 and firing a DX "SUCK IT" at my fit English teacher and she hit me with an immediate "suck what?" and made me explain the sign and comment to take the wind out of my sails.
>>221279676Lmao, how did you explain it?
>>221279579
>>221279697I sheepishly told her it was from wrestling and she asked me what I thought they were referring to when they said "suck IT" and what the "IT" was and I had to say 'dick' and she asked if I was telling her to suck my dick and I got all stuttering and backpedalled aggressively. She let me off with a warning and told me to be cognisant that I'm not sexually harassing people in future kek
>>221275273Greatest entrance in wrestling history. The limo, the cigars, VooDoo Child blasting, and prime Chicago Bulls Dynasty Era Dennis Rodman. It doesn't get any better than this.We are never seeing anything like this again.
>>221279764https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WWqCn3x1xuA
>>221279742The fact that you still remember this two decades later showed the power of a good teacher.You should contact her and tell her what an impact she made on your life. Then tell her you've only got two words for her.
>>221278135Foley is just 110% about wrestling and I think there was some divine intervention for that to be his purpose and make it out on the other end without murdering his family or being agonizingly crippled after his tenure. The Japanese extreme matches he did are pure unfiltered kino.
>>221279799>Then tell her you've only got two words for her.kek. I unironically did see her later in life and told her she was a great teacher.
>>221279764Greatest entrance in history will always be https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5mxCv-4dF0
>>221275273That looks extremely painful
>>221279826>The Japanese extreme matches he did are pure unfiltered kino.Are any on youtube?
>>221275340In my country we didn't know anything about wrestling, Hogan was some weird famous guy that we had never actually seen wrestle because it didn't air on TV. Then Fox decided to start airing WWF weekly, which was this exact era, but they would never air things such as Summer Slam, so it was like watching a soap opera with gaps in the story. You didn't know who won what until it was suddenly brought up in the weekly episodes.
>>221277416>being this newFuck off, roodypoo candyassgot
>>221279856This was a Mania entrance, the nWo had Dennis Rodman, Michael Buffer, and 20,000in attendance for a NITRO. I miss the Attitude Era
>>221279862sneed
>>221279799Made me start laughing while trying to be quiet bc the baby is sleeping. Well done. Fuck. DX was pure kino, better than the hulkster, stone cold, and rock combined. And fucking now obviously. Both the Shawn Michaels, Triple H and Chyna original DX (shoutout to Rick Rude) and the x-pac, new age outlaws version.
>>221279978If I ever go anywhere and see a black t-shirt with "staff" crudely written on in chalk I'm doing a 360 and getting out of there.
>>221279972wwf had plenty of celebs. they had arnold on a smackdown. tyson on raw to set up his storyline that culminated at WM. pamela anderson was somewhere in there too.
>>221279915https://youtu.be/TFI3gG_POCkYe, there's a good few more from when he went as cactus jack but this is the best known.
>>221280063Always thought barbed wire ring rope matches were shit.They sound cool on paper, but they destroy all momentum in a match. Half of the match is them rolling around on the mat tangled up.
>>221275273>not only did he get thrown at least two stories down, he climbed back up the fucking cell and got slammed through it down to the ring and kept on for another 10 minutesMick was a genuine 1 of 1 and even though i very loosely care about wrestling after attitude I'll never not be astonished by him
>>221275273This unironically killed the business. Nothing will ever top this bump.
>>221279978That reminds me of the one where the dude does some kind of danger flip from the turnbuckle in a school gymnasium in front of a crowd with like 8 people in it and almost paralyzes himself
>>221280043Tyson was disgraced by that point. Arnold was in WWF during End of Days, way beyond his prime. Pam An would be the only one, I guess. Cause she was on Baywatch til '01.Dennis Rodman was literally in MJ's Bulls, IN HIS PRIME. There's even a story of him missing practice during the fucking NBA Finals to attend Nitro with the nWo. This story even made it to the MJ doc, The Last Dance.The reason WWE never talks about it is because it wasn't them that did it. Their competition outdid them, and they know it. Vince must have been PISSED. He loves that type of shit.Nothing like this will ever happen again. It's literally insane.I'm not saying Arnold, Mike, weren't cool, but it was nowhere near hanging out with Prime Dennis Rodman literally playing for another NBA 3-Peat with the GOAT of basketball during the freaking Playoffs. Never happening again.
>>221278013
>>221280159>I'll never not be astonished by himpeople remember his iconic bumps but i will always be mesmerised by how even he got to be a prime time performer. like relatively speaking, he's the exception from all of the big stars from that era in that he doesn't look like a superstar. someone else could probably express it better than me but i would assume at some point his wrestling career was on a knife edge because he didn't look like he was it but still somehow rose to the top. his guile for the job and his creativity made him the 1 of 1i still periodically watch the rock this is your life bit. the three faces of foley will forever by my favourite gimmick
>>221279954Joey Styles:>Do not throw chairs into the ring!>Please do not throw chairs in the ring!>STOP WITH THE FUCKING CHAIRS!Some asshole in the crowd:>Get some more chairs!
>>221280359I watched some documentary-esque thing with Mick Foley on it and he talks about all of that. How he wasn't the 6'7 muscle man who Vince thinks is hot and how it was a real struggle for him to be accepted. I think even he mentioned he found it a bit amazing he went as far as he did given the way he looked.
>>221280422it's either a happy accident or a stroke of genius. maybe a mix of both. mick's booking was just lightning in a bottle like the perfect foil for the stars, he elevated everyone he worked with but then also became a fan favourite. i guess it's slightly sad to think about he had to put his body on the line to get to that point but at the same time, that's also why everyone loved him
>>221277355I started posting here during those word filters
>>221279799You got me good lol
>>221275273how did they fake this? it looks pretty real.
>>221280228Never heard of stop, drop, and roll. No fire extinguisher! No wet blanket or petroleum on their skin. Just a bunch of halfwits.
>>221280854its just a camera trick. they werent more than 2 or 3 feet off of the ground.
Recently met him at a con, very cool dude, and hilarious. He sigd' my original copy of stranglemania as Catus sac :)
>>221278265Nope.WWE went woke before the majority of TV and cinema did.
>>221275273i prefer the Yokozuna era.
>>221281930The fuck are you talking about? Vince's wife is literally the secretary of education.
>>221275273Didn't they all get screwed over for healthcare or something?Anyway, someone post the one where the amateur breaks both his knees.
Gotta genuine question for the true fans of wrestling. Doesn't it seem a little gay to you? Like are you truly a fan of this and are still 100% straight as an arrow?Not trying to be a dick. I'm a gay guy and just can't wrap my head around this. It's tough to empathize because there are no good women's sports; i.e. "I watch women's volleyball because I genuinely love the sport". The male equivalent is always better and more entertaining, not just because it's men. You know what I'm saying?
>>221275273>Bret Hart swings his dick around like he’s the best thing to ever happen to the business when his most memorable moment was throwing a hissy fit for not winning a fake fight>meanwhile Mick Foley
>>221275273JR's commentary made everything feel better.Imagine how soulless this would feel with a modern npc commentator nonchalantly saying "oh my" over thishttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FDbWm4RPp10
>>221282374And? Vince is a fucking degenerate.
>>221282555It's the opposite. Wrestling fans are desensitized to the image of male flesh. We don't even notice the guys rolling around in their underwear. It's like how men used to shower together in a locker room and no one cared.
I grew up in a snobbish left-wing household, and was basically shamed into not watching wrestling as a kid. Damn shame, cause this shit was awesome.
>>221282555I don't like the greased up muscular wrestlers who wear a speedo because of how gay it feels.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uXo9_imnHoE&t=112
>>221282662*eye roll*
>>221278135Being fat and not a steroid junkie like most wrestlers probably helped his body a lot with taking all that physical abuse
>>221278294>it will never be better than it was in the 2000s.I was better in the late 90s and 80s than the 2000s, retard.
Mick put his body through hell in this match, but the Shawn Michaels/Undertaker Hell in the Cell match was much better.
>>221278135Literal retard strength
I will post a webm or three maybe, but all old stuff. Here's two of the Nitro Girls recently.
>>221282714I dunno. Part of the appeal to asses are the glutes. That's basically jello, the precursor to Kansas-tier flatness.
>>221279407Ugly disgusting kike
My collection of people other than Stone Cold doing the Stunner.
>>221282618WWE has always had a very left wing bias though. Look at every storyline JBL has ever been in>rich wallstreet racist is the heel>working class minority is the face
>>221282851what about when triple h said that booker t could never be a champion because he's black and then he beat booker t so he could never be a champion
>>221282892HHH just made himself the winner of every match. Really fucking sucked.Literally slept his way to the top.
>WWE coming to my little country :)>Search for it just to see how much the tickets are>Brings up a list of wrestling events in my area>Peruse them>I know that face...>It's Scotty 2 Hotty wrestling in a parking lot or somewhereThere's something extra sad about old wrestlers who aren't in the WWE anymore but are still wrestling.
>>221282945Scotty's based. He's really nice in person.
>>221282968I missed him being there by about two weeks because the listing was a past event. He looked like he was having a blast in the advertising stuff so I was at least pleased about that.I always liked Scotty and felt he was unfairly shit on. The Worm is still based.
>>221282975
>>221283020There's a great video going around lately of him wrestling his son and it's interspliced with a video of him wrestling his son when his son was like 8 years old and they're running the same routine.
>>221283037Sounds neat I'm going to see if I can find it.
>>221282555>guy who immediately thinks about gays when he sees wrestling tells others that they're the gay onesliteral textbook projection lmao
>>221283132https://www.reddit.com/r/Wrasslin/comments/1u2086b/scotty_too_hotty_wrestling_his_son_through_the/
>>221275340>Smackdown>Raw>No MercyI'm talking about the games, of course. Wrestling went to shit when they changed the name from WWF to WWE.
>>221283248I guess. Though projection typically involves deflection of the accusation. Or like I'm calling you gay because I don't want people to suspect I am. But I said I am. And I didn't tell others they're the gay ones, I asked about it.AND. It is pretty fucking gay, dude. Try describing wrestling to someone who's never seen it.>men grapple with each other>men without shirts or pants grab and throw each other around>men wearing speedos and grease tackle and hold their opponent
>>221278013>>221280355
>>221278432Is Monday Night Football better than The Sopranos?
>>221278432I know the wrestling fight is fake, but the characters are entertaining and they will gives us a spectacle.The UFC fighters are mostly unlikable nobodies and worst case one knocks the other out in 10 seconds.
>>221283354Anon, I have a ballbusting fetish. Whenever I watch a movie with a scene where a woman hits a guy in the balls I find it sexually arousing. Like this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NiMXp34p6M&t=285Now obviously these scenes aren't supposed to be sexually arousing, that isn't the intention of the scriptwriter, the director, or the actors, but nonetheless I find it sexually arousing because I have that fetish.That is the same way you feel about wrestling. YOU find it sexually arousing because that is YOUR sexual orientation. Heterosexual people do NOT find it sexually arousing because that is NOT their sexual orientation.
>>221282756>Based man dedicated to his craft.>Feels no pain.>Autistic.Fucking knew it, what a legend.All the best humans are autistic.
>>221283909Give any other examples.Hardmode: no chess players.
>>221282578>>meanwhile Mick FoleyMick threw his body around like a crazy man. This isn't even Mick's best match. Not even close. It was just a le epic spotfest for the ECW Philly retards.
>>221283955>nooooo you can't have exciting memorable moments it has to be 30 minutes of the same old shit every match
>>221283955i don't care if he's better in-ring, mick has way more exciting matches than wet fart. and he got under-utilized because he wasn't a roided out freak that vince wanted to fuck
>>221283949Rodney Mullen.Case closed.Over and OUT!
>>221283988>>nooooo you can't have exciting memorable moments it has to be 30 minutes of the same old shit every matchOr you can have great spots and a great match. Mick's Hell in the Cell vs HHH was better than the Undertaker HitC
>>221284183>i don't care if he's better in-ring, mick has way more exciting matches than wet fart.Ok retard>Bret has #1 Wrestlemania match of all time>Bret has #1 Summerslam match of all timeMick is great, but he was mostly just a guy who took a lot of punishment.
>>221284255>Bret having #1 anythingBret is literally the most boring ass wrestler of all time. If it weren’t for Montreal the only thing people would remember Bret for is being Owen’s brother.
>>221278135>How the hell is Mick Foley still alive and not quadraspazzed on a lifeglug? It's partly due Mick Foley's normal wrestling style. Excluding OP's video, Mick foley often just involves getting smacked and punched and kicked. He does not jump off ropes, or do high flying maneuvers where he spins his body in the air (like Rey Mysterio) or land on his head.The OP PICTURE is extremely rare. It's one of only two times in his career he did something so crazy and it really messed him up. It nearly did kill him. His wife and children threatened him to never do that again. So Mick never did high flying moves like that again.
>>221284255>>Bret has #1 Wrestlemania match of all time>>Bret has #1 Summerslam match of all timewrong and false. he drew dimes only a handful of times and had more dud main events. shaun is the real reason the wwf didn't collapse in the mid 90s (him being a faggoty primadonna asshole notwithstanding)
>>221284347>Bret is literally the most boring ass wrestler of all time. If it weren’t for Montreal the only thing people would remember Bret for is being Owen’s brother.His WM13 match against Austin is widely regarded as not just the great mania match but one of the best of all time. You sound like a zoomer retard that only likes huge spots and flippy shit.Go watch some Raw clips from 1997 with Hart Foundation Bret. Some of the best heel work you will ever see and he is mostly responsible for the Atittutde Era.
>>221284377>wrong and false.Clearly you're a zoomer WM13 match with Austin is #1. And his Summerslam watch vs Bulldog is #1.>he drew dimes only a handful of times and had more dud main events. Name a few of these duds.>shaun is the real reason the wwf didn't collapse in the mid 90s Are you fucking retarded? When Shawn became champ ratings and house shows went down. Vince had to beg Bret to come back and he put the title back on Bret.
>>221278013I don't really care about him hating blacks but Hogan backstabbing his coworkers constantly is while he'll always be a piece of shit to me even if he is undeniably one of the greatest.
My favorite diva right now is JCW's Ring Rat! Her ass is so fat.
>>221279784Every single young man in that audience is now a woke-loving feminist
>>221278613>Because of the WWE's scummy anti-union policies they probably never got paid what they deserved.That's just how it is. If they were unionized the product would suffer tremendously from a fan perspective and nobody would watch. The only way you get the excitement of the golden eras of wrestling and mma is through cut throat scumbag promotional practices. If the WWF had unionized or the modern WWE or AEW or the UFC or one of the dozen belt holding boxing promotions fan attention would shift away from them toward promotions that aren't unionized and can actually put on exciting shows at a high cadence. If the state regulates and mandates unionization the entire above board sport would die and what fan interest there is would end up trending toward underground promotions like was the norm back when MMA was straight up banned all over the US.
>>221284538>If they were unionized the product would suffer tremendously from a fan perspective and nobody would watch.I agree, but the product for the last 15 years has suffered tremendously from a fan perspective and barely anyone watches.
>>221284556Yeah you're right there, but if I went into my issues there I'd slam into the character limit real fast. I don't know what the fuck these wrestling promoters are trying to do at this point.
>>221284596All wrestling has become>flippy shit>spot fest>no ring psychology>kicking out of finishers multiple times on Raw>heavily scripted promos so the wrestlers can't create and advance their characters>40+ year old guys at the top of the card (WWF used to make fun of WCW for doing this)>ads all over the place, even on tables and ladders>too many commercials>waaaaaaay too many title beltsWWE Vault on youtube is so fucking entertaining and it shows matches from the "down" period of the early to mid 90s.
>>221279742lmao she ETHERED your ass
>>221284538>If they were unionized the product would suffer tremendously from a fan perspective and nobody would watch.How do you figure?>If the state regulates and mandates unionization the entire above board sport would dieThe whole point of unionization is standing united against the employer. If everyone was required to be unionized companies would have no choice but to play ball or go out of business (and if they go out of business fuck em, their greedy Jewish asses didn't have a viable sustaining model to begin with). That wouldn't preclude any of the scummy promotional tactics from happening, it just means that as wrestlers ping pong back and forth between promotions that they know they're financially covered if they suffer a serious injury that keeps them out of action for a long time.
>>221284712>How do you figure?Because wrestling is different from sports or Hollywood entertainment. The best product the fan can get in the ring is when wrestlers are cut throat and try to outdo each other. And the higher up on the card you are, the more money you make and the more merch you sell. If they unionized and everyone got a minimum of $500k a year (which is actually what happens in WWE right now and they don't even have a union) there would be no drive to get better and earn that money. The wrestling business is at it's core a traveling carney show and the guy that brings in the crowds gets paid the most. The product got worse once everyone starting getting paid more for not having to excel.
I run my own A.I. slop wrestling federation.
>>221284693I'm not familiar with the new slang, on a scale of pwned to btfo'd how bad is that?
Maryse
>>221284671What's wrong with flippy shit?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8kAFDbXfnM&t=187
>>221284712>How do you figure?Because physically destructive combat and combat adjacent entertainment products show the pattern again and again and again. Poor underpaid fighters/performers put it all on the line for their win bonuses, but at a certain point when their earnings get high enough they lose that hunger and stop putting on exciting shows either by fighting more conservatively (see: boring) to protect their belt/record, or to protect their health by fighting way less frequently or only signing contracts to fight weak competition. The dynamic isn't 100% 1:1 to wrestling because of the more central interest in plotlines handed down from the top for the record don't for a second thing that the UFC and boxing promotions aren't monkeying around to try to build narratives either, they're just putting their thumb on the scale in little ways from time to time instead of dictating winners and losers explicitly but before the product went to shit there was a significant element in wrestlers lobbying for their place in the storyline and as >>221284780 mentions the bigger the spectacle you create and the bigger your name becomes as a fan draw, the more you get paid and the more likely you are to be the guy in the script who ends up with the belt. When everyone can afford bmws just for getting signed it becomes almost impossible as the promoter to incentivize the exciting emergent developments in matches that put asses in seats.>The whole point of unionization is standing united against the employer. If everyone was required to be unionized companies would have no choice...Yeah if the state was all knowing and all powerful and all entertainment had to go through state authorization, but it isn't and it doesn't. Wrestling is in competition with all other forms of entertainment, including illegal underground shows. If you can't compete with the fun factor nobody's going to buy your product even if you're the only legal game in town.
>>221284780>The best product the fan can get in the ring is when wrestlers are cut throat and try to outdo each other. And the higher up on the card you are, the more money you make and the more merch you sell.Again having a union doesn't preclude any of that from happening. There's no ceiling on what one could earn. It's not like the minimum would be the same across the country, there's obviously COL differences all over the country. >wrestling is different from sports or Hollywood entertainment.Not that different. They're still all paid wildly different amounts there based on talent, experience, who's funding a thing, etc.As I see it a wrestling union is less about guaranteed minimums and more about things like healthcare (which is what Jesse Ventura was most concerned about when he tried to unionize but that kike Hogan ratted him out to Vince). There's already countless stories of Vince fucking over wrestlers in that regard.
>>221283949Depends on what Best means to you. Besides that, Elon Musk comes to mind. He's ahead of most people on several metrics while being undeniably autistic.
>>221285111totally not gay, nope!
>>221285203Musk hasn't really done anything in his own right, he was born into immense wealth, none of his decisions could really be catagorized as wise.
>>221285118>Again having a union doesn't preclude any of that from happeningYes it does. WWE has had what could be considered a "union" for the past 15 years (high base pay, payment for drug treatment and other shit, etc) and the product has never been worse.>Not that different. They're still all paid wildly different amounts there based on talent, experience, who's funding a thing, etc.You're clearly not a wrestling fan and didn't counter a single argument I made about how the old carny system of "whoever brings in the crowds gets paid the most".>As I see it a wrestling union is less about guaranteed minimums and more about things like healthcare (which is what Jesse Ventura was most concerned about when he tried to unionize but that kike Hogan ratted him out to Vince).You don't need a union to get healthcare, so Ventura should have just fought for healthcare. Unions are mostly about higher pay and collective bargaining. That wouldn't work in wrestling and the current poor product and lack of stars shows that. Stone Cold Steve Austin because Stone Cold because wanted to make more money. If he was making $700k as Stunning Steve Austin he probably wouldn't have cared.
>>221285291>he was born into immense wealthI always love this cope. It's up there with "I could do that but I don't want to". It's best when it comes from people who turned a $20k student loan into a $150k debt.>none of his decisions could really be catagorized as wiseMan I wish I could make unwise decisions that make me a trillionaire.Retard.
>>221278432BKFC mogs both those semen slurping leagues
>>221278565The Ruthless Aggression era was alright. Not as good as the Attitude era, but still a lot better than what it is now.
>>221280317>Tyson was disgraced by that pointlol no he wasn't.
>>221285549Holy fucking shit anon, his family literally owned several diamond mines. What more do you want? This is up there with Trump's "small loan of a million dollars" quote.After a certain degree of inherited wealth it's literally impossible to fail. Well, unless you're a sexual deviant and your family use you as a sacrificial lamb to improve their image like Prince Andrew.
for me its the cream of the crop
I re-watched the Magnum T.A. vs. Tully Blanchard Steel Cage/I Quit match from Starrcade '85 and it's still the greatest cage match of all time.
>>221284846>new slangit's like a decade old
>>221285111>"the marks are in the ring now" - Jim Cornette
>>221286004Best Sid impression I've ever seen.
can you describe to an outside why wrestling became so popular with Americans? fake wrestling in general scripted with drama? whats the appeal. Does it come from the old west were the circus would come to town and have these fake acts or something?I find it fascinating , that watching roided up men in speedos giving cheesy speeches would gain that much traction.
>>221286004Jesus Christ, looks like a dog shit ragdoll game with retarded physics. Who the fuck jumps with locked knees?
>>221286059>can you describe to an outside why wrestling became so popular with Americans?It's popular all over the world.
>>221286059It became popular with Mexicans and Japanese as well, tardo.And it has been popular with all three nations long before "roided up men in speedos giving cheesy speeches" showed up.
>>221286085That ref looks to be regretting the life choices that led him to this moment.
post the best finisher. too late. just did.only way it could be more brutal is if you could find a safe-ish way to do a running buckle-bomb style burning hammer where you just run full tilt and dump him into the bottom turnbuckle
>>221284378I’ll grant you the Austin match was great but that’s because of Austin and the Crimson Mask and him passing out at the end, Austin made that match memorable. I literally can not even remember the Summerslam match you’re talking about. >you sound like a zoomerI wore an nWo shirt like every day at school and was forced to explain what the “suck it” dx hand thing meant to a teacher. The flippy shit’s for faggots
>>221286085kancho as a finisher is simultaneously based and cringe
>when an illegal child smiles at me in the grocery store
>>221286113>I’ll grant you the Austin match was great but that’s because of Austin and the Crimson Mask and him passing out at the end, Austin made that match memorable.You are so fucking retarded. Based on that logic Austin would have had more memorable matches like that.>I literally can not even remember the Summerslam match you’re talking about. Bret vs Davey as Summerslam at Wembley. You are a zoomer that has no idea what you are talking about.>I wore an nWo shirt like every day at school and was forced to explain what the “suck it” dx hand thing meant to a teacher. All this and you don't know about Bret vs Davey at Wembley? Stop lying.
>>221286112Best finishers are those that can come out of nowhere like sweet chin music or RKO.
>>221286084>>221286084ok I'm gonna ask chatgpt
>>221286182>Austin would have had more memorable matches like thatAustin was the biggest thing in the fucking world are you high?>all this and you don’t know Bret vs DaveyTbf I checked out a lot during Bret hart stuff because he was FUCKING BORING AS FUCK
>>221286205Professional wrestling became popular in America because it sits in a sweet spot between sports and theater. People enjoy competition, but they also enjoy stories. Wrestling gives them both: heroes, villains, betrayals, revenge, and dramatic showdowns, all wrapped in an athletic performance. Most fans aren't watching to see who is genuinely the better fighter—they're watching a live action drama where the conflict is settled physically instead of through dialogue.The roots do partly trace back to traveling carnivals, circuses, and Wild West shows of the 19th century. Promoters discovered that real wrestling was often slow and boring, while staged wrestling with colorful characters and dramatic storylines drew bigger crowds. Television then supercharged it, because wrestling was easy to understand and visually exciting. A viewer could immediately recognize the good guy, the bad guy, and the stakes. In a sense, wrestling is less "fake fighting" and more a form of folk theater—part soap opera, part action movie, part circus spectacle. The roided-up men in speedos and cheesy speeches look ridiculous from the outside, but they're really playing exaggerated comic-book characters, and millions of people find that entertaining.I knew it.
>>221286231>Austin was the biggest thing in the fucking world are you high?Again, his MATCHES never reached the WM13 level again (part of that was due to his neck injury, but he didn't have matches like that before his injury....actually I take that back his Surivor Series 96 match with Bret was great too).>Tbf I checked out a lot during Bret hart stuff because he was FUCKING BORING AS FUCKSure thing, retard. What a lying zoomer you are.
>>221283627based cuteska molesting joshis
>>221285874First it's a small emerald mine, then it's the biggest emerald mine in south africa, then it's the biggest emerald mine in all of africa and employed slave labor well into the end of the 20th century, now it's diamond mines? Are you for real lmao?
>>221283949Issac Newton
>>221285720Paul Heyman's mic skills are basically the only thing that never got ruined in terms of quality from then to now
>>221285907on balance, off balance, doesn't matter
>>221286327>it was a mere emerald mineah, my apologies, i didn't know he grew up below the poverty lineAnon, why are you dickriding trillionaires so hard? I get you want to LARP as a temporarily embarassed millionaire and sooner or later the free market™ will realize your potential and you'll be released from the wagie cage forever, but in the meantime what do YOU get out of simping for people who wouldn't piss on you if you were on fire?
>>221286438>all this seething because he got caught bullshittingKWAB
>>221286538I drank the kool aid on the size of his inherited wealth, I'll freely admit that. But the underlying point, that he did inherit vast wealth, is sound.Now answer my question. Why do you like the taste of Musk's dickcheese?
>>221286567Hey at least you'll partially admit when you're wrong. That's the first step to recovery. The second is weaning yourself off all this dicksucking fantasy that seems to dominate your thoughts.
>>221286601Still avoiding the question, sad!
>>221280855That guy is a legit Hollywood stunt guy
Haven't watched RAW since college is it true there's a wrestling company that's full of trannies and has tranny fans called AEW
>>221279764>>221279856>>221279972The greatest entrance in history was Stone Cold entering the ring to help Mankind win the title. I've never seen a single instance of a crowd getting that into it ever again. Maybe during Rock vs. Hogan maybe.
2016 raw vs SmackDown draft was the real end of wwe
>>221280089Going too extreme cuts the fun.Its like Jackass. The best stunts are the ones that look painful but aren't. Nailing your nuts to a 2x4 probably hurts like a mother fucker, but it doesn't look cool.
>>221287095>2016 raw vs SmackDown draft was the real end of wweZoomer opinion. It ended when WCW was bought by WWE. There were a few good matches and moments in the few years afterward, but those were just fumes from the glory years.
>>221284201>>221285203>>221286341When I was a kid these people were just called cunts.
>>221285220The sad thing is that you don't know why you project your own homosexuality onto everything you see.You're looking to validate your own degenerate behaviour by projecting it onto everyone else. You know what you do is broken and wrong so you think that everyone must secretly be broken and wrong because in your eyes that would make what you do somehow less deviant.I have never met a homosexual who wasn't like this.
Ms. Hancock
>>221284898dayum just like McMahon likes them. Only thing that would improve this is her taking BBC
>>221282975Business status: exposed.
>>221288196settle down eugene
>>221275273did he dead?
ANON WITH THE FLYING THREAD BUMP ALL THE WAY FROM PAGE 7
>>221275273the first Hell in a Cell with HBK was better
>>221286719>has tranny fans called AEWWWE fans boo'd Hulk Hogan and constantly complain about the company being MAGA
>>221278265>Is there anything happening in modern pro wrestling that's remotely this interesting or badass?Given that in the Royal Rumble the women wrestlers had to cover up from head to toe, I doubt you've missed much, you tagged out at the right time.Seriously, head to toe. They could have done it in a sexy way, like thin lycra you might see the outline of an erect nipple through, no bras, wobbly tits, and looking like it was painted on over their arses (because Yankee-doodle-dandies are their core audience after-all and they "love dem asses"), but no.
>>221275340never watched it as a kid cuz my parents wouldnt pay for it, but watching at my friends house was always fun and comfy af
>>221290804hahahahha https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kU_Vnl2x3y0tbf im surprised they let them show their faces
