Just marathoned two episodes of this, what do we think of it?
>>221278956it's cold outside
>>221278956sometimes very funny, sometimes very poor. everything after the OG series is awful
>>221278956high variance in episode quality.My recommendation? Watch everything up until Back to Reality. KINO episode and the quality is still relatively high for everything.
Great show. Audience laughter gets annoying though. And for a non-Brit, so does the intricate British slang. The book Infinity Welcomes Careful Drivers is great too.
>>221279072personally i found the books a bit dark compared to the show
>>221278956Get back to watching it dumbass
It has blacks?I don't watchsimple as
>>221279072>book Infinity Welcomes Careful DriversThe audiobooks are, or were, on YouTube. Chris Barrie does the reading.
>>221279145it was made in a better time, I don't think race is even mentioned once
>>221279231proto-woke
>>221279145I never thought of Cat as black, even as a racist adult I have to be reminded that he's black.What is Lister, anyway? He's darkish and has nappy hair but his mushy little face seems any other bong.
>>221279231There is an episode where we meet a younger Lister who accuses everything of being fascist (I cannot remember if there is also the accusation of things being racist), but it is played as younger Lister being in the wrong and older Lister is embarrassed.
>>221279295>What is Lister, anyway?>the son of a Guyanese father[2] and Irish mother.A Guyanese father is a bit vague given the breakdown of Guyana is39.8% Indian29.2% African19.9% Mixed[a]10.5% Indigenous0.3% European[b]0.2% Chinese
>>221279310Nope, just calling shit crypto fascistThe eighties was so optimistic. They didn't think the far future would notice race. Back to the future also came out in that decade.I wish I could have experienced it. A time before mass immigration but with most modern conveniences.
>>221278956Depends which two episodesS1 - A pilot season for some operaS2-6 - The good shitS7-8 - The downtrendS10-12 - Not bad, skip lemons and samsara
>>221279293You realise the mere act of having a darkie on the screen is not politically charged, right? Would you brand the very fabric of reality as woke?
>>221278956Series 1-6 are kino then co-creator Rob Grant left and it goes to shit.
>>221279458Demons and Angels and Back to Reality
>>221279338Okay, so he's kind of a true Heinz 57.I am pretty racist, but casting eise, when it comes to randomized races I'm not very annoyed, he'd look stupid cast as a soldier helping Washington cross the Delaware, but once/if corporations start shooting people into orbit to mine asteroids it's probably gonna be all sorts of weird chimeric mixes, half Chinese half Congoid love children whose dads give 'em a break and put them on a crew, Indian Polack supervisors, kids of lolberts who bought Polynesian wives.
>>221279008>missing Legion>missing Gunmen of the Apocalypse>missing Out of TimeSpeechless
what is it?
>>221278956Funniest fucking show ever up to season VI. Authored by writing duo Rob Grant and Doug Naylor.After that Rob Grant left leaving Doug Naylor to write and what were occasional crude jokes in the original series became unrestrained and fell flat a lot of the time without what later seems to have been Grant's moderation and more cerebral humour.Actor Craig Charles who played Lister was accused of rape, (eventually acquitted), and was using crack in the intervening time. When the series came back with season VII, Chris Barrie, (Rimmer), was moving onto other shit, and the production dynamics had completely changed.>>221279145>>221279231I remember not even really noticing Lister not being White for years after I watched the show. Was too busy laughing to even care. Truly colour-blind moment in TV history where nobody cared afaik. Watching some interview with Danny John-Jules, (who played the Cat), where race is brought up with a some of the typical whining. It was retarded, seemed opportunistically retrospective, and totally out of place, despite being relatively mild by Woke Era standards. Like he had to really try hard to even shoehorn in some kind of racial victim shit at all for a show where the lead was non-White, and had an unforced, non-quota non-White majority main cast. The original cat Frankenstein, the 'mother' of the cat race was a black cat. They got a Black guy to physically act like a (cool) cat. Seemed like the most perfectly normal thing in the world.Just a well-cast talented troupe of funny actor fags, and funny writing. Not sure how much the timing plays into it working so well at the time, but a universe with no aliens, just the last human alive and a bunch of floating smeggin' rocks, fucking around wasting time, was a hilarious contrast to sci-fi at the time, with Star Trek TNG being the hot shit in that era.Without a word of a lie, I'm never physically laughed out loud so fucking hard in my life than watching this show.
>>221279851>Without a word of a lie, I'm never physically laughed out loud so fucking hard in my life than watching this show.I know what you mean, some of the gags are just fucking perfect.>...I couldn't buy it, then?
People who grew up having Woke rainbow horseshit shoved down their throat might get triggered by the early season episode where they go to a parallel universe where there are female versions of themselves and Lister gets pregnant from literally fucking himself.Hardly my favourite episode, even when old TNG does that kind of shit, but that kind of sex role reversal has been a thing in sci-fi and comedy since forever without it being about actual trannyism or literally gay shit, simply because there are a lot of jokes and opportunities for observational humour.Not dissimilar to the episode where Lister and Rimmer swap bodies and the actors get to act like each other's character. Pretty standard shit. Wasn't political or gay-agenda driven at the time.
>>221280149you're mentally ill
>>221280149He doesn't actually get knocked up, that was a joke.
>>221280411Yes he does
>>221280357https://youtu.be/aLM4AQDQY4Q?t=1565>>221280411>faggots can't into speed reading:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hPkYHLlDZIQ>>221280060Biggest laugh I ever had is the punchline after Lister accidentally activates the self-destruct by using the vending machine and they can't shut it off. Perfect build-up. Actually missed the next ten minutes of the show after that I was gut-busting so fucking hard:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpZiNO2CRtwGreat combination of drama, sci-fi shit, elaborate plan, physical comedy, and character gags.
it would be improved a lot if you cut out all the Cat scenes, he's never funny
>>221278956after all the hype, didn't find it translate as well as other crossovers like Are you being served, Bean, Only fools and horses, etc. Big Train would've done better. I can see it's amazing if everything else on TV sucked.
>>221279293This.They also recast the computer to be a woman in season 3 and casted a poof robot.
>>221280542>a poof robotNah, he was just a comedian.
>>221280504Mr. Bean is in Red Dwarf??
the first 6 series were great. no idea why you would watch them if you were born after 1990
>>221280498Yeah but Duane Dibley
>>221280498He's painful in S1-3 but hilarious in the later (pre-7) seasons:>some might say that's a pretty shallow argument>some might say I'm a pretty shallow guy, but a shallow guy with a great ass!
>>221280603Cat grows on you due to Duane and becomes retrospectively funny, it's the weirdest thing
>>221280498The humour of his character heavily relies on you the viewer actually having owned a cat in your life.
I don't find it funny but the story ideas are interesting enough to keep me watching
>>221280765This is mine, that is mine.
>>221281013I distinctly remember being bored/annoyed during the "how am I looking?" gag the first time I saw it, then pissing myself laughing a few years later after having lived with my gf's cat
Hey wait, speaking of Cat, wouldn't hundreds of thousands of generations of cats, proto-hominid cat creatures, hominid cat creatures, up until the events of the show have soaked every inch if Red Dwarf with piss?Like, I've been in a cat lady's house before.Imagine the smell of an entire evolutionary cycle of cat lady house.You could mine the ammonia
>>221281087After a million years, their spraying methods evolved, too.
>>221281137They probably evolved not to do that eventually.Then the scutters would have cleaned it before Dave woke up.
>>221278956Marooned is still one of the greatest episodes in all of television. And the entire thing is pretty much just all dialogue between Lister and Rimmer.
For me it's The Inquisitor>well first I>LIAR
>>221278956Its too bad they never gave the show a real finale
Any fag who thinks the OG show is woke needs to watch 'Psirens'.
Wot a guy....
>>221281382Would be the worst thing for them to do.I know people are obsessed with closure, but we already know Listers destiny is to be a endlessly looping cycle keeping humanity alive, the show jumps between different crews as they encounter things and earth either isn't there, humanity is long dead or its an m-corp hellscape.
>>221278956Series 1 and 2 : funnySeries 3 to 5: mixed bagSeries 6 and 7 : The Star Bug era. I like these seasons more than 3 - 5 overall. I feel like they go back to the comedy of series 1 and 2.Series 8: Back to Red Dwarf . Alright season. Also the end of the original run.Red Dwarf: Back to earth = Three episode story arc. It's alright.Series 10 to 12 : I haven't really watched any of these. I feel series fatigue from this point on.Overall: Great, if you stop at series 9. The rest are there if you want more?
>>221281633>>221281611This retard got dubs twice. Well done
I haven't watched it but why is season 9 hated so much?
>>221281632>m-corpqrd?
>>221279796I’ve never seen one before, no one has…..but I’m guessing it’s a white hole
>>221281788Series 8 ended on a cliffhanger and the show got cancelled."Series 9" was a three part special. It has nothing to do with s8. For context, the entire series is about the futuristic crew returning to Earth and having sci-fi adventures along the way. Well the specials are about the main characters instantly teleporting to 21st century earth. They then engage in extremely meta activities like meeting the actors that play themselves, and killing their own script writer. Overall it's just...cringe. It doesn't fit. It's someone with no ideas left absolutely grasping for laughs but it isn't even particularly funny.
>>221279851I think his scouseness overrides his blackness
>>221282044>tfw the original ending of S8 was first hologram Rimmer, having successfully become Ace, returning to save the crewWe were robbed
>>221282050Calm down, calm down!
>>221282106It's still implied, Rimmer in prison doesnt have the H and yet in S10 he does, because OG Rimmer came back, saved them from the virus and sent living Rimmer off to be the new Ace while he stayed with Lister, so he has the H again.People also sleep on the promised land feature length episode, that talk about Rimmer being the moon to Listers sun and providing moonlight was touching when you grew up with the pair.
>>221282188They were trying to evolve the show to survive and they failed. I don't blame her so much as the scripts, the pipes episode for example was no good. And trying to do a romance subplot with craig charles, i mean whoever came up with that was retarded. never going to work
>>221282263I would like to do a sex with her
>>221282289Enough with the cryptic comments
>>221281633I can't watch a show where the robots and holograms get old and fat
>>221278956Mu favorite
just watched the entire series from start to finish recentlygood shit
>holly why didn't you tell rimmer it's just a garbage pod?>bit of a laugh innit
>>221278956never watched the show but the novelization made by the two co-creators is really funny. picked it up as a kid not knowing about the show. it's like hitchhiker's guide but actually funny.
>>221279851when i reed the book as a kid i didn't realize he was black either. it mentioned his dreads but he was such a not-black character that it never registered.
>>221278956First 8 series are kino, but it drops when that long break happens and they return for whatever that movie length special was.
>>221279506>You realise the mere act of having a darkie on the screen is not politically charged, right? Diversity quotas were the thing before DEI and woke.
>>221278956I haven't watch it, but I hope you all enjoyed Re Warf.
>>221281322I still love the description in Better than Life of Lister trying to dress up the dog food with every other piece of food they have to try and make it more palatable, even painting little decorative flowers on it with the ulcer ointment.
How can you be so obnoxious talking about whether lister is or not black? The actual state of your mental health. Have you not heard of the commonwealth, didn't you realize they talk English at other parts of the world such as Jamaica. It is sad. Double rimmer
>>221288266Wholesome poster
>>221285526A lot of the best episodes revolve around how much of a git Rimmer is.It practly deep dives his entire character.
>>221280149>People who grew up having Woke rainbow horseshit shoved down their throat might get triggered by the early season episode where they go to a parallel universe where there are female versions of themselves and Lister gets pregnant from literally fucking himself.I thought those were hilarious. The women are even worse versions of them.
I never thought it made much sense that there wasn't a female Cat, instead it was a dog
>>221283006>I can't watch a show where the robots and holograms get old and fatThat's how I felt about Star Trek: Piccard and whatever the fuck that last Star Trek TV series was. I thought Red Dwarf did an alright job covering up Kryton's age. The excuse for the aging Hologram was that it ages with Lister to keep his sanity in check. The computer brought back Rimmer originally because Rimmer was the person who Lister had the most contact with on Red Dwarf. The joke was that Rimmer was there to keep Dave's sanity in check . The Red Dwarf could only generate one holographic crew member at any given time. Red Dwarf is one of those series where you could stop at series 8.
>7 million of those words were me telling him to smeg off>the other 7 million were him putting me on report for telling him to smeg off
>>221289714There was sort of a running joke in the writing room about never giving Danny a girl.
I agree that early Red Dwarf is bestBut it's gotta be like, the only long-running show I've ever seen where the very late episodes where everybody is old and fat are better than some of the shittiest middle episodes
>>221281981A WHITE hole?
>>221282188I liked the OG Kochanski, she was cute and seemed more Lister's speed somehow:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H77Z212CyHk
Only found out the low poly robot man was the fella who did scrapheap challenge
>>221285904Yeah, amazing how much it doesn't matter unless some annoying Woke faggot trips over themselves trying to MAKE it matter.There are numerous examples of race, faggot, and even tranny shit in old TV and film that literally nobody gave a single fuck about at the time.Hell, give 'Predestination' (2014) a watch starring Ethan Hawke. That's an adaption of a story written in the fucking 50's by Heinlein. Interesting and almost inevitable sci-fi story that needs to go the tranny angle. Practically impossible to adapt to film, but actually a decent effort.I'm even disappointed they didn't do the tranny shit with Switch in the original Matrix film, (originally planned and cast to be male IRL and female in the Matrix - based on the residual self-image thing). It's sci-fi, so literally nobody would have given a crap at the time because everyone back then knew delusional faggots who believed they were women in men's bodies existed. Doesn't mean you have to agree their shit is real IRL for the purposes of a sci-fi movie.Lister not being White is no big deal because non-Whites exist and one could easily be working as a shiftless space bum on a mining ship. Roddenberry was all about the idea of different races working together in the future, but would you be shocked if you stepped out of a time machine and found the future full of only mongrel brownoid mongrel Goobacks? You know people right now who'd fuck someone of a different race, not to mention quadroons and octoroons. Seems pretty inevitable. More likely that them being all full-blood Ace-of-Spades nig faggot genius scientists in the future or some unlikely Woke delusion like that.
>>221282188Absolutely would do very illegal things to her until she couldn't walk again but wasn't the right person for the show
>>221282198> Rimmer came back, saved them from the virus and sent living Rimmer off to be the new Ace while he stayed with Lister, so he has the H again.But why is he still a neurotic loser? It can't be the same Rimmer because his personality hasn't developed at all
>>221290715Because he was a different kind of ace like the episode says, still a neurotic mess.
>>22128218810/10 would date and wife and protect and provide for. They fucked up big time with the character though, and it wasn't just her either that season had some of the worst episodes generally. It's only tolerable because there are a couple of good ones and that Chloe Annett is in it.
>>221290636Well yeah exactly. Casting a babe was a mistake, doesn't really fit in with the reject loser vibe of the original 4
>>221281633Series 3 and especially 5 are kind of mixed, but 4 is banger after banger.
>It's known as a 'pog', sirs. Allow me to demonstrate.
'sup dewds
>>221291205>your sausages now cover 98% of the earths surface
>>221282188Holy shit, I thought I was a sperg. This motherfucker gives Duane Dibley a run for his money:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mvFH0XWLFQw
>>221291079>Series 3 and especially 5 are kind of mixed, but 4 is banger after banger.Yeah, that is why I say it feels like a mixed bag. series 3 starts off with some strong episodes. But I feel like there were some that I would skip open. Series 5 also has a lot of worthy episodes too. But some I found to be skip worthy. I don;t know why, but once they got to the Star Bug series, I feel like the comedy felt more in line with series 1 and 2. I do like the missing Red Dwarf and the story arc on board the StarBug.
>>221291213>Your sausages, Dave, now cover seven-eights of the Earth's surface. Also, you left $£17.50 in your bank account. Thanks to compound interest, you now own 98% of all the world's wealth. And because you've hoarded it for 3 million years, nobody's got any money except for you and Norweb>"Why Norweb?">You left a light on in the bathroom. I've got a final demand here for £180 billion.
>>221281633>>221291278Starbug series were obviously formulaic, but in the best possible way. Seems like the writers wanted to streamline things a bit so they could work less hard, but everything went better than expected.
Nothing wrong with dog's milk. Full of goodnessFull of vitaminsFull of marrowbone jelly. Lasts longer than any other milk, dog's milk.
>>221291345Why's that?
>>221291345Some very quotable jokes and punchlines to this day. Great writing.
>>221291364No bugger will drink it. of course the advantage of dog's milk is that when it goes off, it tastes exactly the same as when it's fresh.
>>221291338>Starbug series were obviously formulaic, but in the best possible way. Seems like the writers wanted to streamline things a bit so they could work less hard, but everything went better than expected.yeah, that about sums it up. But the smaller location of the Star Bug and the 'scrappier' production really put more emphasis on the actors and their characters. Some of the best comedy moments came out of these two seasons. It has that same tone as the first two seasons, before the budget became much bigger and they went through a lot of set and visual redesigns. Series 3 to 5 are not bad. Some episodes just didn't land well with me, while others did.
Funny story:>be me>be Red Dwarf fag who has seen every episode so many times he can basically recite them>use lines and jokes IRL all the time>join military IRL>no other uber-nerds so nobody else knows or gets any of the references>one day do literally this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DWkvrrxF6WU>CO hears about it>he misses the point and sarcasm like everyone else>appoints me as actual Morale OfficerI shit you not. That kind of sardonic humour totally wasted on meat-headed grunts.
>>221279310yeah this is a good episode/joke. the internet is so angry and takes obvious irony at face value now.you were a teenager, once. you KNEW lads in bands like this. or were one.
I got a photo with them all at a con a couple of years ago. Nice guys. Most popular people at the con despite most of the Lord of the Rings cast being there. You can tell it was Liverpool that’s for sure. They hosted a Q&A panel for about 40 minutes during the day too and that was hilarious. All the stories they were able to tell and how easily they riffed on each other. Chris did impressions of the rest of the cast that had me dying of laughter.
>>221291758>Nice guys.>They hosted a Q&A panel for about 40 minutes during the day too and that was hilarious. All the stories they were able to tell and how easily they riffed on each other. Chris did impressions of the rest of the cast that had me dying of laughter.glad to hear that, anon (and yeah Chris voices them all on the audiobooks, he does a cracking job).i've heard people say Craig Charles is a bit of a diva, and Danny John-Jules punched a binman or something (oh no), but they always come off nice even with how fans can be.i had this video as a kid, it was the first time i'd witnessed a convention. clearly very different to how they are nowadays:https://www.youtube.com/watch?t=1818&v=a0e7Caj74LEi feel so sorry for that kid at 31:43, though. i'm pretty sure that's genuine autism. awkward moment to leave in the video even for 1995.
There were only two channels that I can think of that aired Red Dwarf in Canada. One was a PBS affiliate from Washington State. They would have pledge drives like this: https://youtu.be/LsybFpU-BfsThe other station was YTV Canada. I think? Also the Red Dwarf USA test pilot with the woman who played Daphne Moon from Frasier as Holly: https://youtu.be/8mlnntKi2no
>>221282261Based Rimmer.
>>221282261comedy show etc. but i DID like the storylines/characters, sometimes they were emotional/serious, this moment was always weird.they had zero problem killing people before, characters who'd never show up again. their own evil clones or parallel universe selves, who presumably lived full lives? yeah, kill the lot of 'em.one of those writing pet peeves that happens in TV a lot. it's like if Luke Skywalker suddenly said>KILL a Stormtrooper? but he might have a family!
>>221279796>>221281981>>221290263It's just not the same without being on /f/, having it playing in an endless loop, and the board being slow enough to reply to future posts or your own post.
>>221280411He gives birth to twins who rapidly age, that's who Rimmer saw die in the episode with the future echos.
>>221293949it bothers me to no end they occasionally tinker with 4chan here and there (e.g. the CAPTCHAs) and yet /f/ has been broken for over a year now.i checked /ic/ the other day too, it works SOME of the time. but it breaks more often than not.this is internet HERITAGE i demand it be fixed ;__;
>>221282198that's actually a good solution to the series 8 conundrum.Remind me. Did the rest of the crew evacuate, or did they get nano-deconstructed?
>>221293583Lister is prone to have excessive levels of sympathy for other lifeforms, even when they're droids and computers and stuff. Maybe it's in character. I agree it's a bit of a reach he would pick this moment to be principled about killing a Simulant.