Grace Randolph has heard from reputable sources that if Supergirl and Man of Tomorrow don't do well, #GunnIsDunn, and not just at Warner Bros.
Well shit I could have predicted that.
well he needs to lock it in man what the fuckinstead of making Batman and Wonder Woman he's making weird ass stoner movies about comic characters you've never seen beforenot everything can be Guardians of the Galaxy
they're going to off him? like in the mafia?!
>>221284117>A female has an opinion on the internetHow can we make this stop?
>>221284231Wonder Woman is boring. Batman was rebooted for the 20th time like yesterday.
>>221284117>Grace Randolph has heard from reputable sources that if Supergirl and Man of Tomorrow don't do well, #GunnIsDunn, and not just at Warner Bros.God willing.
>>221284117He didn't direct Supergirl.
>>221284563He's in charge of the studio that made it.
>>221284563>>221284825He's the goddamn CEO, and the creative director, and he hired a hot actress that never wrote a project before in her life to write the movie, ie he wrote this movie for her.
It's all coming together.
>>221285097Return of the snyde
>>221284117I don’t get why James Gunn’s demanded Supergirl should get a movie.
>>221284563He’s the one in charge of the DCU and the one who approved it.Goddamn you Indians are so fucking retarded. No wonder you eat cow shit.
>>221285097Snydaars Vs. Gunndians Whoever wins, we lose.
>>221285684>I don’t get why James Gunn’s demanded Supergirl should get a movie.Because Gadot may have had a contract to return for WW3. It's the Cavill situation again.
>>221284117Probably just Supergirl because Gunn promised WB execs and the press that Superman was going to bring good will to the brand and Supergirl was going to make more than Superman.
Supergirl was made because a movie featuring her was already in the contracts for release after The Flash, originally intended to showcase The Flash’s version of the character. The same goes for Superman, which came about because a Man of Steel 2 was already in the contracts. This situation is similar for projects like Peacemaker Season 2, the Jimmy Olsen series, and others.
>>221284117As if superman superflopping last year wasn't enough of a tell his days were numbered
>>221286441See >>221286310Gunnfags were still in denial that Superman was going to "fix" the DC brand and next year Supergirl was going to break records. That wasn't true
Milly Alcock killed DC hahahaa!
1. Grace is frequently full of shit, particularly with DC news2. A replacement needs to be evident before he's really gone, they might announce he's "stepping down" or retiring but he could linger on for years like Kathleen Kennedy has3. Hasn't he been paid 30M+ a year since he's had the gig so will still be rolling in cash no matter what happens?
>>221286594DC oficially died when Gunn got the keys
I hate James Gunn so good riddance
>>221284117Nobody was asking for a fucking Supergirl movie. This is on Gunn.
>>221284117So what, Clayface doesn't matter?
>>221286594Honestly yeah, she should have kept her mouth shut
>>221286687You're silly
>>221284117>not just at Warner Bros.What does "not just at WB" mean? Are they gonna kill him or what?
>>221288293it means he'll never eat lunch in this town again
>>221284117I heard from reputable sources that Grace Randolph will take it up the ass for coke
>>221286614He just failed to revive what Snyder killed
>>221284117>Grace RandolphStopped caring. Everyone knows she and Gunn have beef.
>>221288345Nobody will. Hollywood is dying. You faggots are desperately hoping Warner under Ellison doesn't succeed because you know you'll never get hired again. In reality it doesn't matter what happens, you're out of a job within 5 years.
The mind of a person from the subcontinent is a fascinating thing. They have created out of Snyder a mythical leader, slumbering somewhere waiting to return like an arthurian figure. The once and future director of capeslop. Hard times are upon them and the DCU is ruled by hostile uncaring forces, but Snyder will return triumphant and set things right once again. The only thing that can rouse him is worship and adulation by his most loyal fans, the indians.
>>221290363You know it's actually Zack Snyder himself right? He's been shitposting here all the way back to at least 2008. And it's not like he's got anything else to do with his time.
>>221284117>Grace Randolph has heard from reputable sources that if Supergirl and Man of Tomorrow don't do well, #GunnIsDunn,Yeah no shit. If the two movies after Iron Man bombed the MCU would have been cancelled too. if 2/3rds of your franchise fails, your franchise is gonna fail. >and not just at Warner Bros.this is just dumb. dude has multiple 800+ million dollar movies and seems to have good relations with everyones he's worked with. Dude made pedo jokes and even Disney took him back.
>>221284453>Wonder Woman is boringNot if you cast a sexy bitch with her ass hanging out of the skirt.
>>221286352>Supergirl was made because a movie featuring her was already in the contracts for release after The Flash, originally intended to showcase The Flash’s version of the character. The same goes for Superman, which came about because a Man of Steel 2 was already in the contractsContracts for who? They recast and rebooted everyone and it's their own IP. Who was this contractual obligation to?
>>221284117
>>221284117When*
>>221290471No that's still boring. 2 hours of ass shots with no fucking is the worst porn imaginable.
>>221290498shareholders maybe
>>221284117>grace randolphAre you serious?
i would totally raw dog grace randolph, shes THICC
>>221284117Wasn't Gunn justifying cancel culture and then complained when it happened to him with the pedo jokes?
Grace Randolph.....HNNNNNNNGGGGG......
THE HIPS <3
yes mommy, sign my sign, i mean my comics UwU
i want her to squeeze my head with those THIGHS!!!!
>>221284117Well first of all Grace Randolph has no idea of what the fuck she is talking about, Paramount will reboot no matter what happen with Superman 2, they'll put in charge Michael Bay most likely, it should be Bruce Timm.
>>221291780
>>221291780I exhaled air through my nose at this.
>>221291000No. lol.
>>221290498Possibly the estate for who created the characters. Certain IPs require creator credit.
>>221293955Warner owns DC lock stock and barrel.
Indians and /tv/ bantz, Gunn will be fired after man of tomorrow simply because ellison is a close personal friend of the orange man and gunn is not a trump supporter. simple as. gunn’s firing will be part of ellison’s slaughter of wb management as they turn cnn into another fox news
>>221294331Zack shut the fuck up. The only way you're going to influence this film's box office is if you take a gun to the cinema opening weekend.
>>221294468gunn will be fired because of ellison and trump and some unseen omnipresent american culture war. synder has nothing to do with it.
>>221294557Yeah and maybe that will happen if you find some way to grab a headline with your suicide like Heath Ledger. Everyone loves Heath Ledger.
>>221294600this has nothing to do with synder. he is irrelevant and may as well not exist. synder is well known for donating to democratic house members and is personally an artsy fartsy liberal who met many other liberal artsy fartsy socialists at photography school and through his artistically famous mother. he is not who ellison will replace gunn with. in all likelihood, they will replace gunn with whedon; a canceled white man with a history of harassment toward women.
>>221294765If this has nothing to do with you then why do you keep posting about it? All I'm saying is that the media will DEFINTELY publish your suicide note.
>>221294765>he is not who ellison will replace gunn with. in all likelihood, they will replace gunn with whedon; a canceled white man with a history of harassment toward women.I'm sorry to say, but the Ellis and the Trump administration are all in on Zack Snyder.
>>221294794I am posting about gunn being fired by ellison and my first post in this thread explicitly did not mention synder. (You) are clearly retarded and cannot read the english language. the antithesis of gunn is not synder, but getting fired by media corporations for hating trump. It has happened before, it will happen again
>>221294765
>>221294806synder has frequently donated to democratic house members. he is more politically invested than most people, let alone film directors. synder currently has no contract or project with paramount and is currently editing the last photograph; an independent production with no distributor
>>221294834are you seriously posting a joke jpg like it’s serious and real or is this just fun bantz?
>>221294863Snyder is palling up with the Saudis, Dane White, Trump people, and the Ellisons.
>>221294880That's the beauty of it, you'll never know.
>>221294886just because cosmicbooknews says so, doesn’t make it true. this is a man who had an adopted trans vietnamese daughter. his career was being an artsy fartsy photographer and film director. his mother is a highly regarded and famous feminist artist. for people obsessed with brining up synder, (You) guys don’t know alot about him
>>221294921Trump helped finance BvS, dude.
>>221294940I miss those.
>>221284117>If multiple movies bomb he's out.
>>221294963
>>221294940Why are Indians so obsessed with this movie?
>>221294806>>221294822>>221294834Taylor Sheridan will be in charge of DC next year after The Batman part 2.
>>221294984BvS felt like a religious, out-of-body experience, a true road-to-Damascus moment.
>>221294940I still can't watch this movieTried to watch it on my old tv and it was to dark and couldn't see shitBought a new 4k tv and tried again and still looks like shit
>>221294940um, no he didn’t. do you mean how mnuichin helped finance ratner’s production company? that’s a weird take in the culture war
>>221294940
>>221286352>the Jimmy Olsen seriesWhy the fuck would anyone want to see that? What the fuck is Warner Bros thinking
>>221294921>his mother is a highly regarded and famous feminist artistThat explains Snyder's hyper-masculine creative output. I hereby want to thank his mother.
>>221295020>Bought a new 4k tv and tried again and still looks like shitWay to out yourself as a faggot, but i respect your life choices despite not agreeing with it.
>>221284117Just shelve DC at this point, how many guys have tried their hand at this? It's just never gonna happen
>>221295037synder loves his mom and is the most direct influence on his interest in photography and later getting him accepted into photography school and later got him his first job directing a music video
>>221295009
How can Zack Snyder be considered a liberal if he regards Mussolini as a personal hero?
>>221295061Based. What a gift to male entertainment that turned out to be. 300, Watchmen, every teenage boy's fantasy in Sucker Punch, Man of Steel. Beautiful.
>>221295117because liberalism is to liberate and posses the rights of freedom and equality without oppression. trying to fire people for mean tweets about trump is the opposite of freedom
Zack Snyder’s films, along with the himself, introduced me to both Orthodox Christianity, gym culture, and White Nationalism, so I’ll always be thankful to him for that.
>>221295036>Why the fuck would anyone want to see that?it had a comic back in the 60s or something, they are doing a Gorilla Grodd tv show too and that's even worse.
>>221295232The Gorilla Grodd show IS the Jimmy Olsen show. They're wasting a Flash villain on Gunn's self insert.
I sincerely want Gunn to go back to doing smaller scale shit like Slither and Super. he peaked there
>>221295117
>>221295043Somehow I felt like watching superman and batman go full fascist wasn't for me
>>221295121Right on, brother. I still dream about WB one day releasing the rapecut of Sucker Punch.
>>221295057To make 2 movies 2 tv shows and 2 animated tv shows a year and a big crossover every 3 is not that hard, idk how nobody knows how to do it there when they have a fuckton of characters that have been arround 90 years.
>>221295292>>221295215>>221295117ten years on and i am still surprised and amused chuds on the internet think the artsy fartsy photography guy who gave millions of dollars to democrats and a movie about feminist empowerment against sexual abuse is anything at all like you
>>221295309>go full fascistIf anything, BvS already leaned far enough into a fascist tone, and Zack Snyder's Justice League still fell short of the true vision, since it was the product of studio compromise. The original script was intended to draw inspiration from horror films and the Evangelion anime.Even though the movie was a moody and somber superhero team-up, it still felt too generic in many ways. I’ll always regret what could have been, we were so close to greatness.
>>221295336You’re only looking at Sucker Punch through a feminist lens, but there’s another side to the film: its exploration of the MK Ultra CIA project and its impact on the American public. It touches on how teenage boys and especially girls were often targeted, allowing predatory older jews to exploit their innocence.
>>221295364synder had three dc films and creative input on two others. like krypton, synder had his chance to make the movie you so imagine
>>221295407and because you personally think there’s a tenous association jews, randomly, you also think synder is exactly like a chud? all whilst synder donating his profits from said film to chuck fucking shumer? Israel’s second biggest supporter?
>>221295424He couldn’t, because the WB execs were constantly breathing down his neck and micromanaging everything he did. He ended up making a pact with the cast to film more than necessary, away from the watchful producers, hoping he could slip in some of his original vision for the DVD release. Ultimately the only reason we got the Snydercut. But even before that, the WB execs had thrown a fit over his original script, calling it too dark and weird.
>>221295485it’s almost like making a dc film means working with the studio financing the film and that’s part of the job of being a good director and getting five chances to make your envagelion facist film, apparently, is plenty
>>221295481Show proof.
>>221295516The problem was that the studio was packed with uninspired hacks chasing pointless trends, blocking the path to true greatness.
>>221295520during an zoom interview in 2021 for army of the dead, synder explicitly stated he donates to new york demoratic representatives. In googling for this interview, I found this >I vote Democrat! I’m a true lover of individual rights. I’ve always been a super-strong advocate of women’s rights and a woman’s right to choose, and I’ve always been surrounded by powerful women. And, of course, I’m a huge advocate for the rights of all ethnicities and every walk of life. I would say I’m a pretty liberal guy. I want to make sure everyone’s heard and everyone feels included. I don’t have a rightwing political agenda. People see what they want to see. For me, that was not certainly the point.do you know who I could believe is a chud? spielberg. if someone told me he hates niggers and fags, I’d believe it. same with george lucas. but synder? the artsy fartsy fag obsessed with joseph campbell and canon lens mounts? that’s who you think is a chud? why? because he lifts weights?
>>221295665That was just him running defense because the interviewer was implying him and his movie were fascist.
>>221295663So many cool things robbed.
>>221295364As lifetime DC fan I simple couldn't stand the snyderverse, it was like frank miller with no class nor style
>>221295685and him sending money from his personal banks account to democratic politicians is also defense?
>>221295665We're not turning on Zack Snyder, dude
>>221295815I was never on his fucking sideStop pretending superheroes are a paramilitary force
>>221295815you were never “on” synder. (You) just like him because he was the 2010’s contrarian’s choice against the mainstream mcu.you guys don’t even like his dc movies. you like what his movies COULDVE been if it weren’t for [REASONS]. it is entirely hypothetical
>>221295761As a lifelong DC fan, it was everything I could have hoped for. It blended John Byrne’s Superman with Frank Miller’s and Grant Morrison’s Batman, combined with the greatest concepts from JLA, Seven Soldiers of Victory, Final Crisis, and even non-canon gems like Alex Ross’ Peace on Earth. It truly captured the best of what DC produced in the late ’80s, ’90s, and early 2000s, one of the finest eras in the company’s history. It was all these characters and stories I had consumed and adored finally being taken seriously, with the gravitas their source demanded.But no, the so called "fans," if they were ever really fans, with their terrible taste, demanded the same corporate junk that offered nothing insightful or interesting, just brainless action comedies filled with cringeworthy quips and gags. People who unironically thought Geoff Johns’ comics were actually good and would probably eat up any ridiculous crossover event.And now even they’re feeling buyer’s remorse, that the superhero genre has reduced to the same stale stuff over and over again.
>>221295867>As a lifelong DC fan, it was everything I could have hoped for.You are not a fan
>>221295884I’m more of a fan than you’ll ever be. I can talk about DC’s publishing history, its comics, and various runs all day long. I doubt you’ve read anything beyond the evergreen stories that every casual fan knows.
>>221295867Dude if your favorite movies are black hawk down and batman v superman I won't stop laughing
>>221295927a real fan would know superman came first in both reality and the dc universe. THEN came batman. it is why batman wears a cape, has an emblem, has a belt, a secret identity, and wears his underwear on the outside. superman inspires bruce to wear the uniform and occupation of a superhero both in fiction and in the real world. having a frank miller end of his career old batman with a young start of his career superman is the most primordial and dysfunctional tenet of synder’s dc storytelling and any real fan of dc would inarguably yield to this most basic truth about these characters>name ONE dc story, any one, that has a young Clark AND old Bruce
>>221295761It was better than Frank Miller because it wasn’t total Bronze Age edginess. It flirted with the self-serious ideas while still maintaining trad form. That being said I could go without the knightmare stuff.
>Guardians of the Galaxy guy makes a bunch more GotG and it all flops>his "career" is doneGuy's a clown and a one-trick pony. I was done with all his movies after the first Guardians and it was shit btw.
>>221295854I genuinely like every single one of his movies since Dawn of the Dead except for his netflix stuff, that was disappointing. Man of Steel was amazing. This obsession you guys have with claiming noone actually likes those DC movies is insane. I get you need to do it to push your comic purist take through though.
>>221296019Frank Miller had something Snyder never had, it was rough and stylish like a chicago gangster with the long overcoat and the hat, Snyder is the security guard who uses a ski mask on a wallmart
>>221296118What is that even supposed to mean
>>221296128Just think about itThe security guard with the mask at wallmart
>>221284117James Gunn is shaping up to be Walter Hamada 2.0. Why is it so hard to get clear cut good looking solo films for A-list characters that are deserving. Reeves already made the easiest layup with The Batman. Also just stop with the TV shows.
>>221296244This a secret among DC fans but supergirl is nowhere near A-list,powergirl is, supergirl is B-list at best
>>221296423Superman, Batman, WW, Green Lantern, Flash are the only ones that can be considered A-list. And even then only Batman is a guaranteed surefire hit.
>>221296507Am using the ranking system with s tier on it, flash simply ain't s-tier, I should know I collected flash comics as a kid and it was always below superman, batman or Lobo comics
>>221284117>if his movies keep underperforming or bombing he will be firedNO WAY STAND BACK I GOT A SCOOP HERE SOURCES TELL ME! A PERSON FAMILIAR WITH THIS MATTER ON THE INSIDE LEAKED THE TRUTH!!! If you do badly,You get firedYOU HEARD IT HERE FIRST FOLKS LIKE SUB AND RETWEET
>>221295997Imagine unironically typing this while completely ignoring the most influential era of DC Comics.Zack Snyder's entire DCEU isn't based on the primordial 1930s-1950s dynamic. It is a direct, almost 1:1 thematic adaptation of the post-Crisis 1986 reboot era. John Byrne's "Man of Steel" and Frank Miller's "Year One" completely decoupled Batman's origin from being "inspired" by Superman. In this version, Batman was already a fearsome urban legend in Gotham for years, completely separate from whatever Superman was doing in Metropolis, and by the time Superman appeared, Batman had already taken on Robin. Superman did not inspire the bat ears or the cape in the modern canon that actually mattered for the last 40 years. In this version it was the Justice Society heroes that served as inspirational foundations for everyone else, including Superman.BvS is literally the exact same character arc Grant Morrison wrote for his seminal Batman run. Morrison took the paranoid, brutal, Frank Miller-inspired Batman of the late 80s/90s and used it as the starting point for Bruce's psychological "rehabilitation" starting with Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth. Snyder does exactly this. His Bruce is broken, fallen, and paranoid, and he needs Superman's ultimate sacrifice to rehabilitate him back into the hero he was meant to be.Furthermore, the entire overarching plot Snyder was building towards is straight out of Morrison's "JLA: Rock of Ages" and "Final Crisis."The Knightmare timeline? An Earth conquered by Darkseid, the Anti-Life Equation breaking heroes, a corrupted Superman? That is pure Rock of Ages/Final Crisis cosmic dread.You're demanding a 1:1 comic book database match where Clark is exactly 25 and Bruce is exactly 45, but you're entirely missing the point of what an Elseworlds mythos is. It's a mythological remix of the dark, post-Crisis era where gods fall and are reborn. Go actually read a Morrison comic.
>>221296507>Superman, Batman, WW, Green Lantern, Flash are the only ones that can be considered A-list.I don't think Green Lantern or Flash are above Titans nowadays, maybe not even above Catwoman, Batgirl or Red Hood.
>>221296685Movie producers being out of touch with current comics is to cliche for meSupergirl was almost there at the right time, the character is growing in popularity but it started from the bare bottom
It’s time to admit anyone could have made a hit with GotG and Gunn simply got the luck of the draw. Capeshit was an unstoppable cultural zeitgeist and he had the 2 of the most toyetic characters Marvel has ever made to work withPeacemaker Season 2 was fucking awful>Watches part of Man in the High Castle>Thinks he gets it when he clearly doesnt>Shows off his awful taste in music and pretends his wife isn’t bogged as all hell
>>221296649>Zack sneeder(visual director) knows more about capeshit than capeshitters kekBased Knowledge-bomb poster.The manchilds have no response to this post since it was not covered in their "10 things about capeshit" YouTube videos
>>221290274It's been 10 years but shills still seethe
>>221284117Show us your ass, Grace.
>>221284498>Gunn burnt his last shot on Superman but vagina instead of giving us a proper Authority movie first.Life's unfair.
>>221296649excuse me sir, your BASED post is pushing site limits.
>>221296649>completely evades the point you can’t say those films invoke the grandeur of this specific comic arcs whilst also ignoring there is no specific comic arc that invokes the most foundational aspect of Synder’s dc storytelling ie young Clark (man of steel) and old Bruce (syndercut arc of old Bruce being healed by Superman’s virtue) I don’t need to prove anything. the die is cast. synder is fired and his dc earth lost to the void of crisis. this most primal flaw is the death kneel
>>221297411>Peacemaker s1le evil white supremacists>Creature Commandosle evil white nazis>Supermanle evil white country picking on the poor brown country>Peacemaker s2le evil white nazi WORLDI fucking hate James Gunn.
>cosmic book news
>>221284252God I hope so. I hope they do it in a extremely cartoonish way too. It would be fitting
>>221285097We know he was planning on doing Countdown To Final Crisis before getting booted
>>221284117Who's Grace Randolph?
>>221298630You are completely ignoring an entire decade of DC comics just to maintain this "primal flaw" delusion. The literal age gap is a superficial detail, but the actual character arc of a jaded, hyper-paranoid Bruce being pulled back from the brink by Superman's sacrifice and Wonder Woman's shared trauma is the defining DC storyline of the 2000s.Read Identity Crisis. Bruce is betrayed and mind-wiped by his own teammates. His trust is completely shattered.Read Tower of Babel and The OMAC Project. His trauma response is building a mass-surveillance satellite (Brother Eye) that goes rogue and actively hunts down metahumans, friends and foes alike. That is objectively worse, more fascist, and far more destructive than anything Batfleck did in BvS.Read Infinite Crisis and 52. How is Bruce's extreme, violent paranoia resolved? He is rehabilitated by the noble, tragic sacrifice of Earth-2 Superman (who, in an ironic twist to your age complaint, is the older, veteran Kal-L showing the way).Factor in Wonder Woman, who goes through the exact same arc of crossing the line by snapping Maxwell Lord's neck, leading to her stopping from putting a bullet in a version Lex Luthor, who was the schemer behind everything. The Trinity then takes a sabbatical year off to rebuild their humanity.The "Snydercut arc" of a broken, paranoid Batman being healed by a Kryptonian's virtue is a direct thematic adaptation of the Identity Crisis to Infinite Crisis era. Snyder just condensed a sprawling, multi-year comic timeline into a cinematic trilogy. You can celebrate him being fired all you want, but don't pretend the foundational lore isn't right there on the page.
>>221300884You know their problem?They expect batman to fight petty crime to be considered a street level superhero, when in jla comics, because detective comics batman is still solving murders and beating up thugs in alleys, that much hasn't changed, the whole omac project was him becoming an international force above countries and laws, this is the result of unnattended asspullery like identity crisis
>>221295336To be fair, every single Journalist and 99% of Hollywood people has spent every waking moment trying to convince everyone that Zack Snyder is a Sexist Nazi KKK Republican Toxic-Male Rapist.The only one who didn’t was Dan Harmon with Rick & Morty funny enough.
>>221301028>Things that never happenedlol Sneeder is the biggest media whore in the business. He just couldn't make movies that the audience actually liked.
>>221284117What’s with the current uptick in GracePosting ? It has to be one simpJust knock it off okay ?
>>221301110It's Zack Snyder losing his fucking mind. He's been here for two days trying to get supergirl to bomb.
>>221300884Previous page.>>221301011That whole trend kicked off with Grant Morrison, who chose to elevate DC’s heroes into godlike figures capable of anything when he launched the JLA series. He made direct comparisons, casting Superman as Zeus, Batman as Hades, and so on. That’s when Batman started pulling off outrageous feats thanks to his so-called prep-time, earning the nickname “Batgod.” This eventually led to Mark Waid’s Tower of Babel storyline, and things just spiraled from there.
And to add to this, even the most bizarrely specific, heavily scrutinized Snyderisms are ripped straight from the highest-pedigree Post-Crisis graphic novels.Take the Kryptonite spear in BvS. The haters love to mock it as edgy nonsense. But look at the actual visual and mythological archetype Snyder is playing with: Bruce projecting his own inner demons onto Superman, hunting his "shadow self" through this, and trying to slay him with a literal spear like he's Archangel Michael or St. George fighting the Dragon.Where have we seen that exact, highly specific mythological framework before?Grant Morrison's "Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth"During the climax, Batman literally tears a spear out of the hands of a statue of Archangel Michael to impale Killer Croc.If you read the script notes and commentary in the back of the anniversary trade paperback, Morrison explicitly spells the entire thing out.He details how it's a direct Jungian metaphor of Batman confronting his own repressed shadow self, consciously invoking the St. Michael and the Dragon mythos.Snyder literally just took Morrison's esoteric, Jungian "Archangel Batman spears his shadow-demon" symbolism and elevated it to a cosmic scale with Superman playing the role of the perceived threat.
>>221301074Anon, everyone was comparing BvS as the Trump of movies full of toxic masculinity.The only reason the media stopped going after Snyder is because JOKER happened and the media were trying to incite Incels to start mass shooting across America at theaters (which is ironic since more people died at The Forever Purge)
>>221301221>nonono see if you see on page 5 of issue 426 it says you have to like my wokeshitOMG ZACK NOBODY CARESYou lost.
>>221284117Man of Tomorrow will be fine.Normalfags like Superman.Making a Supergirl movie was just a retarded idea, especially one where Supergirl is an annoying drunk Girlboss.James Gunn NEEDS to stop adapting shit from Tom King. I know Tom King is his favorite comic book writer but he sucks ass.
>>221284117>and not just at Warner BrosWhat? Are they gonna shoot him?
>>221301127Zack Snyder's first major hit was directing a James Gunn script. Dumb indians just need to graft their console culture war onto everything because they lack the higher brain function to see anything besides simple binary choices.
>>221301262Oh rot. The only thing the wokies cared about was wonder woman having a thigh jiggle. It was the fans that were shitting on it, mostly because >MAARRRRRTHAAAAAAAAAAA NOOOOOOO MARRTHAAAAAAAAAANot to mention Jesse Eisenberg as "Lex Luthor"Cast Nicholas Holt, shave his head, make him a genius but give him a gigantic ego that can't tolerate superman. It was that easy and Snyder couldn't even do that. But the access media never pointed the obvious out even for a second.
>>221301221Here are the script notes for the comic, where Grant Morrison goes into detail about imagery and symbolism.>>221301267No, you lost, you casual fanboy.
>>221301336No I'm telling you it is Zack Snyder personally sperging out on 4chan because he actually thinks he can get his job back. That >>221301221 was posted by former hollywood director Zack Snyder, director of Man of Steel. He paid a bunch of indians to shill for the Snydercut once, but it's not like he keeps them on staff.
>>221301354Here's the page Morrison's describing.
>>221301354What did I lose Zack?
>>221301354God I don't wanna read his perfidious thoughts I was happy with the way he draws the punches
>>221284117>if a guy keeps fucking up at his job, he's going to be firedWhat an incredible piece of insider information. No one could have predicted this.
>>221301350>Cast Nicholas Holt, shave his head, make him a genius but give him a gigantic ego that can't tolerate superman. It was that easy and Snyder couldn't even do that.He was terrible as Lex Luthor, constantly crying and literally spelling out his entire character, motivations, and goals to the audience. It felt like a movie made for complete morons.
>>221301467>I watched Superman expecting avant garde film noirThat sounds like something Zack Snyder would do. Remember that time you tried to make Superman into a mopey edgelord? Also that time you cast an israeli who could only speak enough english to have very unpopular political opinions? How about that time you cast a mentally ill pedophile to play the flash because he reminded you of bazinga guy and you didn't know everyone hated that show?
>>221301538Can you stop sperging plz
And since we're already using Morrison's Arkham Asylum to completely filter the tourists, let's talk about the single most universally memed, misunderstood moment in BvS: Bruce's mother issues and the "Martha" scene.Normies love to boil the entire climax down to "did we just become best friends because our moms have the same name?", completely missing the psychological framing Snyder built the entire movie around.Look right back at Grant Morrison's Arkham Asylum.The entire graphic novel is a massive psychoanalytic dive into Batman's unresolved parental trauma.Morrison explicitly designed the Asylum in the book to represent a terrifying, devouring mother-figure, and a dark, psychological womb that Batman has to descend into.The parallel narrative of the book's founder, Amadeus Arkham, is entirely about a man going hopelessly insane due to the repressed trauma of his mother (culminating in him literally wearing her wedding dress).Batman's physical journey through the madhouse is mirrored by a psychological gauntlet forcing him to confront that exact same repressed mother-wound, complete with recurring, haunting imagery of the pearls.Snyder didn't just invent a Batman who is psychologically paralyzed by his mother's death to force a plot contrivance. He adapted the deeply esoteric, psychoanalytical Batman that Morrison solidified in the Post-Crisis canon. You can meme the execution of the scene all you want for Twitter likes, but the foundational psychology of Bruce Wayne being a man entirely driven, and ultimately broken, by his mother's trauma is ripped straight from the greatest Batman graphic novel of the 1980s.
>>221301583I can, but why would I? Trolling you in these threads is the most entertainment you've produced for me since 300. The one and only good movie you actually made.
>>221301584>words words wordsYou lost Zack. You can't argue people into liking your movies ten years after they came out just because James Gunn is making things people actually like.
>>221295336Okay poojeet
>>221301074Never happened? It's still happening to this day. You people are so fucking dishonest
I’m surprised people didn’t give Gunn flack for renaming Lexcorp to Luthorcorp
>>221301656You’re not arguing with me, but with Grant Morrison. Don’t you love him? Didn’t your favorite director, James Gunn, keep using All-Star Superman as promotional material repeatedly, even though the movie was nothing like that comic?
>>221298967It’s clear he watched Man in the High Castle and aped it for season 2, but I swear he only watched the pilot and must have had a friend tell him how it ends cuz it seems like everything PKD talks about flew right over his head as he was thinking what other surgeries his bitch wife can get to look more like a fucking robot.
>>221295485>stop, my invincible friend
>>221301735Nobody who claims to be a Superman superfan actually knows much about the comics. They’re clueless about half the characters and concepts from Superman’s world. Even in the movie, Krypto isn’t Superman’s dog, and I’ve never seen anyone complain about it.
>>221301696>It's still happening to this day in this very thread I posted about how Grace Randolf is trying to take down my replacement and restore my career. Hey Zack remember that time you changed the ending of Watchmen and made permanent enemies of the die hard comic book fans you're now trying to appeal to for you job back?
>>221301808Superman fans are typically retards too stupid to know everyone in the room is smarter than them
>>221301808I have never actually spoken to a single person who claims to be a "Superman superfan". Superman is cool and all, but he's no one's favorite except for a handful of Jews who don't pay for movies.
>>221284117lol no, he's a pedophile, he will always have a job in hellmouth
>>221301867source?
>>221284117Is he the new Kathleen Kennedy?>this time he’s done!!! This time for sure!!!10+ years pass and he retires>SEE!?!
>>221301854I knew a guy a few years younger than me from when I played Magic that told me his favorite character was Superman He was fun to talk with about comics even if we had different tastes. Miss that little autistic guy.
>>221301141Am ok with Batman winning all the time due to batwankery, I don't consider him a mary sue nor it disrupts my disbelief, it's a comic the hero wins at the end, every time you try to reinvent the wheel end up with poor sales and bad stories, I mean really bad stories about bad things happening to good people
>>221301818The ending change wasn't even Snyder's idea. It was the screenwriter, David Hayter, yes, the guy who voiced Solid Snake.Hayter realized that introducing a giant, genetically engineered psychic alien squid at the 11th hour of a 2.5-hour movie, without the massive supplementary backmatter world-building of the comic, would completely derail the climax.Framing Dr. Manhattan instead was the objectively correct choice for a cinematic adaptation. It streamlined the narrative and tied the geopolitical climax perfectly to the god-like character we had been following the entire movie.But you want to know the truly ironic bit about you "die-hard comic book fan"?When WB/DC finally dropped the recent animated Watchmen two-parter, the supposed holy grail, "true to the source" adaptation made specifically to placate purists like you? The people involved ended up changing several aspects of the comic. And what did they do? They basically copied what Snyder had already done in his live-action movie because his translation actually worked for a screen medium.And the absolute best part? Not a single one of you "mega fans" complained about the animated movies doing it. You all sat there and clapped like trained seals. Because at the end of the day, you people don't actually understand the structural mechanics of pacing or adaptation, you can only spot the most superficial differences, and you just blindly regurgitate 15-year-old internet talking points.
>>221301918Imagine using Nu Wars to grade how successful your franchise is>Yeah, that shit crashed and burned, but Di$ney made a lot of money at the start
>>221301818>Hey ZackWhat an honor. I wish
>>221301943>It wasn't my faultIt's never your fault is it Zack? And yet nobody else has managed to get themself into your situtation quite like you. Hey Zack remember that time you told everyone you were an auteur director because you didn't know what the word meant?
>>221301985Nobody would be honoured to be called Zack Snyder.
>>221301818I don’t remember anyone really giving a shit about the ending. Most complaints I see from comic purists are about Rorschach’s portrayal.
>>221302208I remember people lining up to explain to me exactly why liking watchmen was wrong and gay because they fucked up the ending which completely changed the whole meaning of the story.
>>221302358The same people praised the HBO TV show. That was when i stopped going to /co/, by the way. I couldn't handle sharing the same board with people that not only praised the TV show as an adaptation done right, but had fucking... generals about the show.
Grace Randolph could spit in my mouth, and it'd be the highlight of my day.
>>221302421Dafug are you even talking about, nobody watched that show. They put a chick in it and made her black and gay. And that's all anyone knows about it. I really hope Ellison and Bezos succeed in ending woke.
>>221302477They really had daily generals about that show, actively discussed characters and plot points, and praised as a bold adaptation that lived up to the original comic. They even ran defense for black Dr. Manhattan. I'm not joking.
>>221302499I don't believe you. That sounds like another Zack Snyder fever dream. Right up there with you getting your job back.
While the arrested-adolescent fanboys and the compliant media clerics cheerlead James Gunn’s cynical, snark-infested descent into corporate kitsch, they willfully ignore the towering cinematic achievement of Zack Snyder’s DC trilogy.Snyder offered a brawny, melancholic inquiry into the American mythos. A bravura pop-opera that dared to treat the superhero with the spiritual gravity of Fritz Lang or John Ford. Batman v Superman and Zack Snyder's Justice League are not merely comic book films, they are profound, kinetic meditations on post-9/11 grief, institutional failure, and the crushing burden of divinity in a secular age. Snyder paints with the muscular anguish of a classical auteur, demanding that we engage with the geopolitical and spiritual consequences of gods walking among men.Contrast this robust, auteurist vision with Gunn’s emergent DCU, which is already proving to be a vulgar exercise in sitcom-level juvenilia. Gunn reduces the majesty of the pantheon to a series of glib, self-satisfied smirks, substituting genuine awe for the cheap, solipsistic irony of the Marvel assembly line. His approach to these titans, as evidenced by the neon-soaked, derivative trivialization seen in his latest marketing, is a tragic concession to the lowest common denominator. He mistakes pop-music needle-drops for narrative depth and adolescent irreverence for wit.Snyder challenged the audience’s moral complacency and visual literacy, Gunn merely flatters their cultural infantilism. The chattering class may despise Snyder for refusing to make his heroes deliver quips while the world burns, but cinema history will vindicate his operatic grandeur. Gunn's disposable pop-culture pastiche is destined to be forgotten by the very consumers who currently champion its disposable mediocrity.
I unironically believe Gal ruined the DCEU and if Zack cast a busty beauty with a proper accent from the start things would’ve gone completely different
>>221302795It certainly didn't help. She couldn't even speak english in interviews and had to have her questions scripted for her so she could practice her responses. But Ezra Miller is the gold standard for retarded casting decisions. The whole justification for it was Sheldon from TBBT, a show this is only watched by baby boomers with nerdy kids, and hated with a PASSION by the core audience of comic book films. AND that was coming right after the Chuck Lorre - Charlie Sheen falling out which tainted all Chuck Lorre shows including TBBT. And that's without getting to the fact that he was a fucking nutjob and a pervert.
>>221302895People think he was casted for Perks of Being a Wallflower (that’s what he was known for anyway) but upon listening to an interview with David Hayman (Harry Potter producer) and that he casted Daniel Radcliffe because Daniel had a “haunted” aspect to him that recalibrated my perspective of Ezra’s casting to his role in We Need to Talk About Kevin. Barry Allen is haunted individual because of his mother, and like Daniel I think Ezra also had that haunted aspect which helped his favor. While someone like Lucas Till would’ve been a safer choice I could see Ezra Miller working out. But you need to like really try to get it to work and unfortunately the DCEU fizzled out after JL so we never got a proper execution for him. The Flash movie came way too late and got raped along the way. Also the one thing Snyder did right (Jeffrey Dean Morgan as Thomas Wayne) never got utilized.Gal is just a plain bad actress. She’s cute in some shots but Hollywood isn’t lacking in both cute and competent actresses. Snyder didn’t spend enough time looking.
