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>Oh... Hello!
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>replacing a BIPOC with a yt

This is literally white colonialism
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>>221331444
>>221331758
Show is dead anyway
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>>221331444
dr reddit.. no...
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>>221331444
>even in their last ditch attempt to save the show they still couldn't help themselves
I'm glad its dead
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>imposed her face on his body
kek
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>>221331444
I don't watch Doctor Who but I saw this clip and rewatched it a bunch. It's just cringey as hell. I'm mesmerized by it.
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I never liked doctor who in the first place. I'm glad its dead.
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>>221331758
that's chelsea handler, guy
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only one way to save this show, wipe out everything after Capaldi
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Even Grant Morrison hated the female doctor and the gay black doctor.
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>>221333249
Is that Cristina Ricci?
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>>221333268
no, I don't think it is
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>>221331444
I thought this just happened because there has been a lot of threads about this, but i looked it up and it was aired 1 year ago. so what has happened since then?
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>>221333905
a cancelled special and then nothing
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>>221333905
Disney bailed, so they lost funding. They lied about there being a Christmas special and the showrunner packed up and left. So basically now the show is dead until the BBC gets some sucker to come in and foot the bill and think up a new direction for them. I wouldn't be surprised if the show goes dormant for 15 years again
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>>221334202
>I wouldn't be surprised if the show goes dormant for 15 years again
I wouldn't be surprised if it's completely dead now forever.
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I've hated everyone I ever met that liked this show
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-VvQMnxqQo
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>>221333249
>replace stunt casting of most overrated companion actress as the doctor with the second most overrated companion actress
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>>221334704
yes, because Jenna is cuter and isn't bogged like Billie
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>>221333905
Canceled special, the show is dead for good.
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Women should not play the Doctor. He is intrinsically a male character.
Until the show is willing to face this fact, it'll never be fixed.
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>>221335105
an fictional alien should not be limited by silly conceptions, chud
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>>221331444
>Same character
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>>221335105
>Women should not play the Doctor. He is intrinsically a male character.
>Until the show is willing to face this fact, it'll never be fixed.
This lol

It's obviously a simple formula:
>doctor is an attractive older white man
>companion is an attractive young woman
This lets women self-insert as the companion being whisked away on exciting travel adventures with her sugar daddy, and lets men self-insert as the hyper-competent man who saves the day and has a cute younger gf

>doctor is a woman
Ruins the setup.

>doctor is a zesty buck
Ruins the setup.

>companion is a girlboss
Ruins the setup.
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>>221335186
gay
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>>221335139
So why did RTD have such an issue with white women playing the Rani?
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>>221335207
well, Rani is a hindi word
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>>221335203
>gay
Yes, that's why the franchise crashed so hard.
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>>221335230
imagine watching that
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>>221335255
Even Disney’s imagination wasn’t that big.
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>>221331444
ay yo homie who dat white bitch
hook a brotha up
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>>221335186
Doctor Who was always female. His first incarnation was a BICOP girl refugeed from another universe
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>>221335176
Fuck they did all these poor guys so fucking dirty.
As an aside, I can't believe they didn't bring Pertwee's son in to play his Doctor in an episode fifteen years ago when the show was still alright.
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>>221335316
>Doctor Who was always female. His first incarnation was a BICOP girl refugeed from another universe
Why did chuds refuse to support the canon? Is it because they're all incels?
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>>221335328
the show should move on within parameter
stop trying to get back to faux good old times
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>>221335230
Yeah I bet everyone on set filming this back in the '60s were thinking all the gays and negroes were gonna love this shit.
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>>221335375
but you love RTD that literally made a generation of gay fans
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more decaying franchises should just pull the plug on everything and end with "ok, see ya!"
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>>221335338
No it’s because it re writing history and disrespecting William Hartnell. It was also only changed to get brownie points from the lgbtq, overall it’s not a popular canon.
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>>221335408
wasn't he a proven bigot? so deseved?
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>>221335351
When you've got a celebrated actor whose physically identical father played a time traveler in a show that's still around and very popular, it's simply begging for someone to write a script taking advantage of it. It's called fun, anon, and it would have been entertaining for an episode or two.
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>>221335509
move on, faggot
it was supposed to be different faces
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>>221335426
Do you have any proof or are you just saying shit.
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>>221335426
No quite the opposite actually, he was called a Bigot after he was dead, and there’s accounts of him being friendly and personal two Jewish actors came to his defense and a black actor he worked with was blind sided by the accusation and said he didn’t seem racist to him at all.
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>>221335328
He said he didn't want to just play a version of his dad. Apparently he was supposed to be in Series 9 (probably Hell Bent) but they couldn't get schedules to line up
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show was always gay as fuck, i had a gf who got me to watch it with her and it was excruciating, you are basically on par with twilight or modern star trek fans.. why do you people even give a shit anymore, the showrunners, when they have any, clearly despise you with every fiber of their being.
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>>221336016
nobody that was born in the 19th century was a diversity lover
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>>221336371
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>>221336371
Perhaps people will say the same thing about you in 2 centuries.
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>>221336428
pendulum goes both ways over history
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>>221331444
What the fuck were they thinking!
This show is beyond saving:
>The Doctor was originally a little girl from another dimension
>Time Lords are humans that stole xir regeneration magic
>They can bi-regenerate now so there are twice as many
>They can choose what face and skin colour to have
>They can choose to be gay or straight
>They can regenerate at will
>The TARDIS was duplicated
>There’s a “fugitive” Doctor in the mix
>UNIT has a massive tower in the middle of London
>Some demon dog was riding on the TARDIS for 50yrs
>Davros now has legs
>The TARDIS has a wheelchair ramp
>NOW the Doctor looks just like Rose Tyler
No one is going to want to touch this shit with a ten foot pole.
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>>221331977
shows how out of touch they are that they think this is what fans want.
as opposed to just any regular style Doctor.
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>>221335139
He was an old man in a box *before* he was an alien.
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>>221335375
the doctor who general is nothing but tranny bongs thoughever
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>>221335400
they're not fans. They're just gays, squatting in the ruins of a franchise they never really cared for.
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>>221337510
/who/ is still around?
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>>221337181
At this point there needs to be a complete and total refresh. Wait ten years then bring the show back as “Doctor Who: Regeneration”. Brand new continuity and leadership. Nobody from the Chibnall or RTD2 eras can ever touch another script.
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>>221331444
DIOS MIO!
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>>221337478
It's hatred, not being out of touch. The entire pitch and appeal of Dr Who is seeing an exaggerated British aristocratic man solve supernatural problems via his wits and charisma. Any deviation from that is genuine hatred of the audience.
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Why are people acting like it's doomsday unless it gets picked up soon, as if Billie Piper's cameo puts some kind of timer on the show being revived or it'll need a complete canon reset? Piper could die from a drug overdose before this gets continued and it wouldn't mean shit. You could just ignore or, show the new actor as the Doctor show up with a throwaway line about how it "took me a while to choose a face" or something.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCJTGiUxdzY
Apparently Grant Morrison has ideas. Thoughts?

Having read some of the Invisibles recently, I actually feel like the early chapters with Dane and Tom strike pretty much the perfect tone. I wasn't that wild about it once the actual Invisibles become more prominent characters though.
I actually only really liked Fanny and Boy, out of the whole gang
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>>221333249
I fucking love Jenna.
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>>221334846
She's cuter but the character was annoying.

And a coal burner.
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She could've saved the show.
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>>221340122
Which local community college is this an ad for?
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>>221334700
Not watching anything with a thumbnail like that.
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>>221340153
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>>221340391
>RTD takes over the show again
>it reverts to this bullshit
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>>221339930
>And a coal burner.
Literally all nuwho white woman companions are bar Amy
Hell even Martha and Bill were shagging whites so it goes both ways
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>>221334657
DW had fans when it went on hiatus the first time. And yes, it was never officially cancelled. But there aren't anybody to that amount anymore and it's a different world now so it might be fucked for good.
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>>221338163
Doctor Who's hook was that you didn't need to be James Kirk to deal with alien threats. You could outwit your opponent instead of punching them. That appealed to nerdy boys who wanted to be the Doctor. As well as girls who wanted a suave alien to wisk them away from their boring lives. The formula worked for 50 years.
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i don't trust most people talking about what dr who's formula should be since they're mostly referring to nuwho
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>>221339857
based
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>>221339930
>and a coal burner
please don't summon jennacuck
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>>221340391
>Hello. I'm the Doctor. I've just farted and destroyed a sun.
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>>221340473
I respectfully disagree. I think the whole "he uses his mind, not guns!" thing gets greatly exaggerated, by a certain kind of fan who wants to do the whole tedious "we're more intelligent than Americans. We're all basically Stephen Fry!" routine.
There's also a comedy in comparing the Doctor to Captain Kirk, because Captain Kirk himself is a relatively sharp guy. So what if he carries a phaser on his belt, instead of crafting makeshift explosives out of chemicals he found in the bad guy's lab? That just means he came prepared.

The core appeal of Doctor Who is simply journeying, and the fantasy of having all of the Doctor's fun toys and abilities to play with.
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>>221340834
>instead of crafting makeshift explosives out of chemicals he found in the bad guy's lab
The famous episode where Kirk fights the lizardman is resolved by Kirk MacGuyvering an impromptu mortar tube
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>>221335375
m8 the bbc has always been peak poz

go look up some of the founders' quotes
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>>221340834
From memory, the Third Doctor was handy with a gun too.
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>>221340391
Like a Nostalgia Critic bit.
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>>221340898
classic Doctors were constantly using guns, or physically fighting enemies, just standing back and watching them explode violently or what have you.
The idea that the Doctor simply doesn't use violence is a very new seriesy idea, and even then it doesn't really hold up to scrutiny. David Tennant sword fighting with a guy and dropping him to his death off of a space ship doesn't count for some reason?
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>>221340391
I had a genuine sinking feeling the second I saw this shit.
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>>221341177
You were right to.
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>>221341038
It dosen’t count because everyone liked it so they can’t disown it.
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>>221339857
>Jenna Coleman is so prett...
Yikes
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>>221342024
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>>221341038
Its only when he uses guns, the Doctor has no problem murdering people in any incarnation but for some reason sanctimonious retards like 10 and 12 get on a soapbox about guns and the military when they've committed genocide on trillions of species in the past.
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>>221331444
this would've been good for an episode if they used AI to make her the same age that she was when she met the Dr.
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>>221342267
it's just midwittery in the writing when you get down to it. It's people misunderstanding the Doctor's whole relationship with the Brigadier as some kind of finger-wagging disapproval of guns and the military.
All the third Doctor ever advocated is that you should try to talk to the aliens before you start shooting at them.
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>>221331444
>cancelled
Goodbye
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>>221331444
Did the doctor regenerate into his ex? AGP skinwalker representation ? Finally!
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>>221339857
Birdgirls are the best, yes
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>>221342306
Too old
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>>221342612
This. The Doctor is a pragmatist, not a pacifist. Or at least that's how he was in classic.
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>>221331444
>>221334202
>>221338343
Who do I mail my spec script to? I'll turn the ship around.
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>>221331444
>black hole sun won't you come
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>>221331444
the final ever image from a doctor who production.
its a meaningless ass pull to cover the fact that they have nothing to move forward with.
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I still can't believe that Britain's quirky TV show for toddlers on the same level as Barney and Friends somehow developed a cult audience of 30 year old retards in the United States.
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>>221344097
oh look, another fuckwit that cant grasp the concept of family entertainment.
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>>221344192
>You don't understand dude the blues clues lore is actually really deep and has layers so that everyone can enjoy it, it's not JUST a kids show
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>>221341383
that shot in Midnight (?) always bothers me. is it just a green wall, or did they forget to add something to a greenscreen?
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>>221344269
I think they legit forgot whatever cgi effect
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>>221343576
NTA, he makes some great points. e.g. yeah, the point of the story should be the journey. i'm so sick of epic speeches and 'smart is the new sexy!' geek chic nonsense. you can't just TELL me something is clever or amazing, that's not how it works.

HOWEVER, i'd call Three a pacifist. the guy does have moral fisticuffs with the Brigadier, he outright says shit like
>Violence never solves anything.

but he's on Team UNIT, they're still the goodies, he's just the pacifistic one. NuWho's morals are all over the place that i don't understand where he'd stand on anything. one moment, life is just 'a trick of matter' and 'everything dies'. the next, using magic to delete an imaginary robot thoughtform from the timestream two days early is objectively MURDER.
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>>221344232
actual retard
have fun with your infantile media comprehension
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>>221340391
>>221341383
First RTD era not only had some pretty bad effects (which is normal for Doctor Who) but also some... questionable cinematography.
Under Moffat the production values definitely improved tenfold.
Then under Chibnall he got rid of all the good people and hired a bunch of amateurs.
Then the second RTD era came and the show looked like goofy shit again.
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>>221344410
>First RTD era not only had some pretty bad effects (which is normal for Doctor Who) but also some... questionable cinematography.

i don't give a shit about the 'quality' of the production design, it's only in recent years that the line between TV and film has blurred (basically disappeared).

but the actual CHOICES are weird. e.g. teal lights everywhere. something about it gives me an actual headache.
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>>221344232
DW was literally never a kids' show in the sense of Blues Clues. *Maybe* TNMT, but more accurately something like Buck Rogers.
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>>221344638
Coloured lighting is spacy and futuristic innit? That was basically the entire visual design language of the first RTD era. When in doubt, throw a few more blue LEDs on it.
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>>221344410
I thought he was trying to ape Xena and Hercules, which were already dated by 2005. The soft focus lenses making everything look like a vaseline smear. And he refused to shoot on film to save money. Meaning the first four seasons of NuWho are stuck in 480p hell.
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>>221340462
Perhaps
I won't be watching a 2040 reboot though
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>>221331444
I bet these freaks started clapping after filming this
>I think we just saved Doctor Who
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>>221344097
Yeah the biggest dw fans are in the UK.
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>>221344775
luv me garish colours
luv me flashing lights
ate early NuWho's look
simple as.

it's like if Farscape was a 90s CBBC show.
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>>221331444
So completely disconnected from their audience... why did they do it? Or more importantly, how did they do it? Doctor Who is, was, a cow that could literally be milked forever unless you do, well, exactly what they did. Write stuff so awful that everyone would just leave. I mean, not every IP can literally tackle every single genre and be anything. You can´t ruin it unless you purposely and actively try to, in fact, even trying it would be quite difficult. We could collectively write a season between the lot of us and sure it wouldn´t make sense but it wouldn´t be as bad as what we got either.
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>>221331444
New trivago commercial?
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>>221345057
there ARE audiodramas and novels, plenty of them are solid. so i don't think anybody has any clue how they fucked this one up.

it's like taking a solid, open-ended formula like Murder, She Wrote and deciding
>hmm these murder cases need more robots.
when your solid, open-ended formula is already infinite in scope.

even if you look at the overly-PC stuff as a kind of tax, or ignore it outright, what's left is (simply) really bad stories/writing.
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Big Finish became unpalatable slop the minute they were allowed to use NuWho material
Now it's just all box sets and companion spinoff #589235 and multi-Doctor stories when it's not even a fucking anniversary
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>>221345057
RTD truly thought that people wanted these stories. These people live in bubbles where everyone they talk to shares their political views. They forget that normal people exist who are opposed to constant LGBTQ+ messaging in all-ages programming. One of the tranny actors is on record saying "For every closed-minded fan we lose for being too "woke", we're going to bring in three or four new ones!"
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>>221336090
still waiting for someone to contradict anything i said
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>>221346431
i don't even get how they'd enjoy this, it's so alien to me.

the new Rose actress (?) was on the NuNuConfidential they put out. RTD and her were discussing the scene where the bullies on bikes heckin' deadname her. and RTD says the 'real' kids on bikes might be watching.

that's weird enough (it's fiction mate, you write it for a living), but He-Rose's response was even weirder. all this stuff about she 'feels seen'. remember when actors HATED people probing into their personal lives? their goal was to NOT have the tabloids' eyes on them (and understandably so.)

i don't feel angry, i feel sad. it's like the new anorexia.
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>>221331444
Pipe 'er? I barely know 'er!
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>>221346451
fuck offerino
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>>221331444

Every time I see this photo I think it’s Jodi Arias
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>>221347492
so im right on all points? thanks
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What is so hard to understand? Doctor Who is mainly a show for nerdy fat chicks. They want a nerdy looking guy to fawn over. Its not rocket science. Just do not put a fag or a girl doctor and youre golden. Simple as.
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>>221347789
Fuck off nuwho fag
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>>221347800
Im sorry you like a show made for girls, but thats that
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>>221331444
oh... bye bye!
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>>221347789
>nerdy fat chicks.
thats who showed me it. still i love slampigs



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