Does soup count as a meal?
>>221336342Meal is sitting down with another person to eat food. What if this guy never decided to actually purchase anything more than soup. Jerry is just supposed to sit down with him every week and purchase him soup indefinitely?
>>221336342Meal just means going out together in this case.
Nobody’s having soup as a complete meal unless they’re really struggling. You have to pad it out with other things like bread because it’s not filling enough to be a meal. There’s a reason it’s generally served as a starter
>>221336342 Yes
>>221336342No it fucking doesnt, fucking cheapskate.
>>221336360I think it's implied Bania was going to pay for the soup. Jerry's not mad about paying for the soup, he's mad Bania is wasting his time and baited him to having a meal with him and then switching it once he's there so that the meal doesn't count and he still owes him a meal.
>>221336381depends what's in it, you can make chicken soup with potatoes in it and it's basically the same as a chicken meal
>>221336415I don't think that's the case but even assuming it is that still potentially ropes Jerry into infinite sit downs with this guy while he eats soup. If a meal isn't sitting down with another person while they consume food what exactly are they doing? Does he think Jerry would be there out of anything other than a sense of obligation?
>>221336381The soups used as starters are intentionally made to not be overly filling since they are starters. There's nothing preventing people putting more stuff into soup and this is normally done, hence the expression "hearty soup". Only rich people who's only experience with soup is the french restaurant tradition of having it as a starter find soup to be an appetizer and not a meal.
>>221336439Like I said, you have to pad it out with other things to make it substantial
I would drown the fucker in that soup if he kept insisting it's not a meal.
>>221336639If I have a can of soup at home I know I’m gonna be hungry later. Like I said, you have to pad it out. There’s a reason it tends to be paired with a sandwich and things like that
>>221336678That's not other things that's part of the soup.
>>221336342No. I want to eat, not drink. The drinkable stuff is already in the glass
>>221336693>can of soupDo americans really
>>221336701The scenario you’re describing involves putting extra things into soup because the soup is not going to be substantial enough otherwise, it’s a recipe based around padding, which clearly doesn’t impact the scenario in the original post
Depends on what you consider soup. What's a soup? What's a stew? Is chili soup?
>>221336342Only in a labor camp.
>>221336739Don’t act like that’s just some American thing. Having a can of soup is an infamously cheap lazy thing to fall back on. People aren’t making soup from scratch every time they consume it
>>221336773No which is why they have their own names
>>221336342>Does soup count as a meal?Yes. However. It's not food. Soup is a drink.It's literally called food and drink.
>>221336360>Meal is sitting down with another person to eat food.There is a line though. If you sit down to have a piece of toast, you wouldn't call that a meal. There has to be enough food to allow follow through on the act of sitting down to eat a meal. If there's too little food then it would be just a snack. >>221336381This also depends on the soup. A bowl of hearty soup with a good amount of meat and starches/veggies, or noodle soup like ramen or pho, would certainly leave you full and are nutritionally complete. So soup CAN be a complete meal.There are 2 question here1. At what nutritional density does mere soup become a meal? 2. What soup did Bania have? We don't actually know. He might have been eating a bisque or something else that doesn't even require chewing.
>>221336693They sell it with no/little filling so you can put your own filling into it if you want retard.
>>221336739They don't have soup cans in your third world african shithole?
>>221336814But what's the difference? Is it liquid to solid ratio?
>>221336828I never said you couldn’t, you fucking imbecile. Point is you have to do that because soup on its own is not substantial
>>221336823There’s a reason people say they’re having ramen though, the fact is it’s noodle based and therefore more filling. Nobody who’s having ramen says they had soup, they’ll say they had ramen. It’s a type of soup certainly, but there’s an obvious difference there reflected in the name
>>221336342They booked a restaurant, it was a meal. Even if he only had a coffee or a glass of wine, it would still be a meal.
>>221336823But in the context of the episode. You owe someone a meal. You get together. They only order a toast. They can't get mad at you for wanting to consider that a meal. It's your fault for only ordering toast. In that context the toast is the meal.
>>221336852Soup is substantial. It depends what you put into it. You seem to think that stock=soup like a fucking mouth-breathing retard. Drinking pure stock isn't soup.
>>221336818Drinks aren’t generally considered food.No doubt some fuckwit will now start asking about occasions where they blend their meal into a liquid form…
>>221336852>>221336639 Pic related is soup and it's most commonly served by itself as a lunch of dinner. Your point only applies to some soups. >>221336899Regardless, Ramen is a soup. Therefore soup can be a meal.
>>221336913You keep having to change what I’m saying in order to have an argument. I said nothing of the sort
>>221336899It's called ramen because it's from another language. Are you saying that proper soup is only stuff called "soup" in the English language? Is that your argument?
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>>221336796Isn't that just base for a soup? Do people just drink that and think they are eating soup?
>>221336920Ramen of course was such a popular option in the Seinfeld era and therefore relevant. Ramen is a type of soup and more filling than most soup because it’s based around loads of stuff being in it, hence people referring to it by its specific name. Soup generally is not a meal on its own though
>>221336823No one is stopping him from eating anything. Jerry even says to him to order anything he likes. Jerry's time is ultimately what he has traded for and he's just trying to take more of that. If next time they were going to have a meal he ordered a more substantial meal and Jerry immediately threw the money down on the table then left do you think Bania would be satisfied?
>>221336934You're saying soup isn't substantial because eating a can of soup will leave you hungry later unless you pad it out with something but you're not eating soup if you're just eating the contents of the can, you're just drinking pure stock.
Why didn't Jerry just tell Bania to touch grass? It's not like he was family or something, like Leo.
>>221336899I had a friend like fifteen years ago call Ramen a soup. He made a big deal out of pointing out that the Top Ramen package has "soup" written on it when I told him no one thinks of Ramen as soup. It was so outlandish it stuck with me all these years.
>>221336956No, that’s a can of tomato soup which is its own thing. It would be served in a bowl and consumed via a spoon. Americans are infamously fond of serving them with a grilled cheese
>>221336973Nobody is talking about stock aside from you
>>221336988People are strange. There’s always gonna be that one guy calling his burger or hotdog a sandwich so someone will call him out on it and he can argue that he’s technically right even though people generally don’t describe them as such
The meal is the event. If you say you'll shout someone dinner and you both schedule a time and place, but then they only want a drink because they already ate - that is the still the meal.
>>221336951I’m a native speaker unlike many of the people on this board who try to argue technicalities based around their own lack of cultural understanding
>>221337017You're talking about stock, you just don't realize it since you're an idiot who thinks soup is the liquid part alone and nothing else (stock).
Soups that are meals are called something different. A stew is a meal, it’s technically a soup but no one calls it that. Ramen is a meal, it’s technically a soup but no one calls it that. Curry is a meal, it’s technically a soup but no one calls it that.If it’s just a soup, then it’s no meal. There is a reason it’s always soup and X(bread, salad, ect)
>>221337068Oh, so you just can't read then. Gotcha.
>>221337059Yeah, as much as everyone is bickering about definitions, that’s obviously the argument in the episode. To Jerry it was about it as an event, not about what was consumed. This has turned into a sad modern version of the type of pedantic disagreement at the heart of the show. Things mean different things to different people, tension ensues
>>221336342With lots of bread maybe. Personally I'd consider soup to be part of a good meal.
A lot of Banias desperately trying to drag out the attention they’re receiving
>>221337098Curry isn’t a soup. It’s a meal often but not always involving sauce.
>>221337098>If it’s just a soup, then it’s no meal. There is a reason it’s always soup and X(bread, salad, ect)Agreed
>>221337098A stew is a stew, not soup. What about it makes it technically a soup?
>>221337084Again, didn’t say or imply that. But good luck with your autism assessment. You’ve got this in the bag (just to clarify, there’s no literal bag)
>>221336342depends on the soup, there's some great soups
>>221336639>t.
>>221337194He thinks it’s soup because it’s a little bit runny. Or he’s playing dumb for additional attention. Could be either
>>221336920ramen is a soup with added noodles, which makes it a meal
>>221336988Is that what ruined the friendship?
What about Campbell's Chunky soup? That has enough meat/vegetables/etc to be considered a meal.
>>221337197I accept your concession.
>>221336762nta but the extra things are not extra they are literally the soup, or do you think soup just means water and everything in it is "extra"?
>>221336968>Ramen of course was such a popular option in the Seinfeld era and therefore relevantRamen is only one example of a hearty soup that could be a meal. Looks like I got you spinning your wheels with just this one example though so that's good >>221337242The noodles come in the soup.>>221336972>>221336905I don't disagree Bania was trying to trick Jerry and was wrong for that. But his logic is sound. Soup might not count as a meal even if you're sitting down to eat at a restaurant. It all depends on the soup he had.
>>221337278Pointing out your mistake is not a concession
soup rhymes with poop
>>221337669It is when your posts are just "I didn't say that" but you never clarify what you actually said. Come join us in this soupy debate instead of deflecting.
Soup is a meal unless you're a fat fuck
>>221336342A soup is not a meal, but having set the appointment to have a meal and then choosing to "not have a meal" by eating soup is disrespectful to the other person's time, and therefore Banana is in the wrong and Jeri get ipad.
>>221337194>>221337214>a liquid food especially with a meat, fish, or vegetable stock as a base and often containing pieces of solid foodIt is quite literally the definition you stupid niggers. You sound like the kind of retards who do not know a square is technically a rectangle. All stews are soups, not all soups are stews
>>221338108But stews are usually not very liquid. For example using a spoon to eat soup is pretty much required, but stews can (usually) be eaten with forks. There's obviously a gray area between these two but we aren't discussing that. We are discussing the claim you make that all stews are soups, which they aren't. Your dictionary definition doesn't specify how much liquid is required so it doesn't actually say that stews are soups. It just says soups are liquid. These two things aren't the same. Actually your definition sucks ass because according to it some gravies and sauces are soups, as they are often made with stock, and they can sometimes even contain solid food too.
>>221338451Correct dipshit, they are. Soups is the same tier of description as parallelogram. It encompasses almost everything with liquid nutrients and then other words further define and refine soups into more granular categories. Just because you do not actually know that and use a broad descriptive word incorrectly as a narrow descriptive word does not mean you get to shit on the floor and demand we use your personal special snowflake definition. Squares are rectangles. You disagreeing just means you are wrong
its not a drink. typically a soup is an entree before the main course. yes, it's light eating, but if you meet someone for a dinner date, you dont eat before. he was clearly being scummy in order to hang with jerry more or get more food out of it. he used the excuse of a 'gift' suit, but gifts dont come with conditions.now, we all know this, thats what makes it funny. there is plenty of these retards out there, curb goes even further with these type of social situations with varying effect.
>>221336415>I think it's implied Bania was going to pay for the soupno it isn't, it's explicitly shown to be the opposite
>>221336381if a soup is a stew, then it's a meal
>>221336342No soup for you!
>>221338727>soup is a general term for ALL liquid food>source:trust me broFuck off nigger.
>>221338810>too fucking stupid to follow the reply chain and read the posted definition of the wordYah, I think I am correct in my assessment of you.
>>221338847The definition you posted doesn't state that all liquid food is soup retard. It merely says that soup is a liquid food. Is gravy soup, yes or no? It's made with beef stock and flour. This makes it liquid and with nutrients. This makes it soup according to your retarded interpretation of a dictionary definition that you're reading wrong.
>>221336342>niggers in this thread don't know about chanko nabe...
>>221336342>person A: you owe me [thing]>person B: okay. We will meet on [date] so I can provide [thing]>date arrives, persons meet>person A: I have changed my mind. I will consume [other thing] and you still owe me [thing]. We will meet again so you can provide me with [thing]>person B: I do not enjoy your company
Ramen is a meal. Actual ramen. Ciappino is a meal. Chowder in a bread bowl is a meal. Everything else is debatable.
>>221339160if I ejaculate my sperms on a bread is that mealasking for totally no homo friend
>>221336342Soup is not a meal. A stew and possibly chowder is a meal
>>221338773Stew isn’t soup, the clue is it has a different name
>>221337780Read the words I wrote. That’s what I said.
>>221336342A big, hearty soup can stand in for a meal, like a large bowl of phō with plenty of meat and rice noodles. a small bowl or cup of something that's mostly broth isn't and cannot be a meal
Is a hearty stew a meal?
