>>221341034Wonder Woman and only the 1st one worked because Chris Pine carried the fuck out of that movie on his back
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>matt walsh
>>221341131has anyone genned s3 alex and s1 haley kissing yet
>>221341034im impressed he got through that entire xweet without doing an ad read
>>221341034There's a number of successful ones but they're all fully and solely aimed at a male audience and budgeted appropriately. It's not the audience Hollywood wants.
>>221341034>no market for femoid superheroesyes real men should only want to see men in their underpants making funny jokes and beating up CGI monsters
The west still hasn't learned how to write female superheroes that actually appeal to females.
There is just don't make her an unlikable dyke who hates men. Not hard at all.
Women want ROMANCE and DRAMA. Not ACTION and ADVENTURE.
>>221342372ok but who would romance supergirl?
>>221342435>ok but who would romance supergirl?Batgirl, duh.
>>221342279This. All you have to do is make a girl superhero do stupid girl shit when she's not being a superhero. It's really not that hard. Even women are tired of the "girlboss" trope. Being a stupid bimbo is back in style.
>>221341034the first Captain Marvel and Wonder Woman did huge box office numbers
>>221341034>There's no market for femoid superheroes?Nope.
>>221341076It worked because it stuck to a mascoid substructure. Femoid substructure is something like doing everything wrong but still winning through incompetence and spite.
>>221341034he's right but he shouldn't say it.
>>221341034Kill Bill?
>>221342435
>>221341131If he was born in Scotland he'd be Matt Scut
>>221342646Wouldn't have been a blip on the radar without tarantula's prior hits
>>221342646that was basically anime in movie form, there were plenty of hot bitches and good actors to carry the movie
I have Wonder Woman (TV show) and Stargirl, don't need anything else
>>221342090There's been two successful female-led capeshit movies this last decade. Captain Marvel benefitted from a then growing MCU and the (false) marketing angle of it being a core piece of Endgame. Wonderwoman was a catharsis release for all the feminists who demanded female capeshit movies. The sequels to both were flops because the success of the first wasn't driven by genuine interest.I always like to point out that Captain Marvel outgrossed every solo Batman and Spiderman movie to that point (unadjusted). There isn't a single person on this planet who believes Captain Marvel is more well known than either of two.
>>221342789Black Widow wasn't a total flop for a covid release
women are holes that shouldn't even existmen are better at being women than women
>>221342435>ok but who would romance supergirl?
>>221341034>femoidYou sound like a child on the playground whos scared of cooties. Your generation is fucking cooked.
>>221341034Matt Walsh really needs to stay in his lane. guess political podcasting is drying up
>>221341034Why is the ginger guy from UCB seething about Supergirl?
>>221341034Matt Walsh wanted to be a comedian and failed. I wish rightwingers could actually be artists so they wouldn't have to do shit like this with their lives.
>>221342279because they are still trying to appeal to former tumblerina millennials as they started doing heavily since 2015Since they are basically the only female internet demographic that writes (other femoids prefer videos and pics on normie social media), studios pretend they are somehow their "female demographics" they want so muchIt was bad that they catered to them back then, but it's beyond cringe now that tumblerinas are firmly middle-aged. Middle-aged femoid weirdo spinsters have always been targets of ridicule by society over history, it's time to start ridiculing their views on popular media
>>221341076And even the first Wonder Woman is overrated as fuck. It's an okay movie that was hyped to the heavens only because it wasn't a huge pile of dogshit. Gal Gadot is a fucking horrible actress and the battle with Ares is lackluster.
>>221342937>Leave m'lady alone!
>>221341034Women only see capeshit with their boyfriends so they can drag those same boyfriends to their musicals. You will never find a group of single women seeing a superhero movie together. No matter who the superhero is. And that goes for Star Wars, video game movies, etc.
>>221342937Women fuck serial killers, child rapists, dogs and browns/blacks. Who gives a shit what they think? I mean this for real. Their political views only involve sex (abortion, birth control, promiscuity etc) and replacement immigration. When left to their own devices they’re retarded.I love women but I don’t give two shits about their thoughts because I’ve rarely been impressed or surprised by what they say. And working with women is never enjoyable in the long run especially when they start pecking at each other like chickens.
>>221341034He’s not wrong. This just a repeat of pic related which came out exact time last year
>>221342464Sailor Moon is just YA shit which does sell with women. Hunger Games for example
>>221341076It worked because Wonder Woman is actually a woman in the movie. She falls in love (with a guy!), she likes babies, she has emotions. Compare that to Captain Marvel who's a sexless, loveless, stoic "badass" that nobody can relate to or like. Supergirl is similar but more like a drunk, depressed mess. Which again is not something a lot of people want to see.
>>221342435When you write girl romance shit, you need some spark. Guy romance is easy, because give them a good looking slut, and you pretty fine. Girl need fire and water, ice and hot, people that disagree + the guy has to be hot and not too hot that its unrealistic but realistic enough that female audience is aware they have zero chance. tl:Dr bbc
>>221341076>Chris PineThis. Second WW film with Pinne was basically Kirk in Star Trek 4.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OcC1f1jqCPI
>>221343533also, people forget that Wonder Woman is literally the only woman in that movie that matters, and she plays the part of the "nurturing mother" to a bunch of menBack then it felt like a fever dream reading so many people considering it a "feminist movie"
>>221341076and because it's basically a romance movie disguised as a war movie.
>>221342435Easy.>>221342936Now, listen here you...
You're laughing. A female cop killed a rabbi outside PornHub and you're laughing.
>>221342435>ok but who would romance supergirl?Traditionally it's Jimmy Olsen.
>>221343587he was barely awake in the movie and still mogged everyone else
>>221341034Matt Walsh is stupid AF
>>221341144It's on my list of things to do but I'm focusing on other pairings now
>>221343533There's a scene in Wonder Woman where she sees a baby for the first time and she's so happy she looks like she's about to cry. When Captain Marvel came out, someone made a fake clip that went viral of her seeing a baby and punching it in the face.
>>221342936Cringe.>>221343616The correct answer. Everyone knows Jason > Dick.
>>221342435Batman is the optimal choice for gains.>A cheerful, innocent girl falls for a wealthy, serious man with a sad past who keeps his emotions locked away.>The girl sets out to save him from that abyss of darkness by showing him there is more to the world.>She succeeds, and both find happiness (though obviously, she is the one who gains the most from the relationship).
>>221343658Lmao
>>221341034>studio is willing to lose millions to panderThis is profound levels of bullshit. If making pro white movies can sell tickets, they would be making 5 hitler movies a year and paint him as a not so bad guy. Get real.>shes 105 poundsAlso she has superpowers, retard
>>221343958>Also she has superpowers, retardso does everyone else in the movie, they're all aliens and they don't explode into chunks of red jello when she hits them, meaning they are stronger than anything on earth
>>221341034>Nobody wants to see some 105 pound girl boss action heroIf only Hollywood had a 160 girl boss who could actually believably beat the shit out of an average man
>>221343988Ok? So? She is still motherfuxking Kriptonian.If any of the random goons were a real treat to her, they would be supervillains.Supergirl can destroy the solar system.
>>221344062>Supergirl can destroy the solar system.no, she can get bitch slapped by a giant lizard just like her (stronger) cousin did
>>221342570This. I'd say there is a very small niche, but it's not something that can be expanded on or exploited like they envisioned.
>>221342646>Kill Bill?Nope. Didn't even make $75 mil domestic and was ranked #38 for the year.
>>221343476based anon
>>221343500>This just a repeat of pic related which came out exact time last yearWhich NOfuckinBODY ever asked for...
Easy>cast hot blonde chick>she does hot blonde chick stuff>oh look, there's a hot alien that looks like a white dude who disagrees with her>she's a narcissistic bitch, he's a warm, caring but also aloof manIT WRITES ITSELF, YOU BARELY NEED A SCRIPT
>>221344422All the 12-year-olds who the movie was made for had to sneak in.
>>221342789Captain Marvel is an anomaly. Any movie could have been placed where it was with the false importance it was given to the movie people actually cared about and done gangbusters. If they were smarter, Marvel could actually have another hero that people care about. Instead they went with a shitty girl oss movie no one likes.
>>221343950Wait....what?
>>221343958>This is profound levels of bullshit.Sure, rabbi. Sure.
>>221344536Yeah, but you forgot that WB allowed a soulless pedophile hack to be in charge of their movies
>>221344010>160 girl boss>beat the shit out of an average manChoose ONE. Pussy.
>>221344556>>221344422>>221342646The two parts combined make over $330M (cost to $350M if you include the combined re-release) on a $60M total budget.Over $600M adjusting for inflation.People will see female action movies if they're done right and not marketed as feminist-slop
Female superheroes can be cool if the movie they're in at least looks appealing. Most of them don't.A lot of boys like the Powerpuff Girls cartoon, because it was fun, had cool action scenes, memorable villains, and the Girls were likable characters.
>>221344224>it's not something that can be expanded on or exploited like they envisioned.Men AND women want to see manly men doing manly things in action, sci-fi, war films. They want to see the beautiful maiden that inspires and drives the manly man to heights he never could have reached without her inspiration. Fucking NOBODY wants to watch girlboss slop. It looks dumb as fuck to both men AND women because we've grown up around each other and know exactly how much stronger, faster, and downright tougher men are compared to women.Hollywood used to understand their audience, and they would cast accordingly, and make sure the writing reflected the genre so the audience got exactly what they wanted, and what they expected to get. Today they deliberately insult the audience and try to force bullshit characters and stories down their throat, but the audience is wise to them now.
>>221344556
>>221342435Lobo's dick is literally the only one Kara's vagina couldn't turn into paste
>>221343500Checked and perfect example. We've been tired of this shit for a long ass time.
>>221342789that's just capeshit specifically though not female action generally like walsh also mentions
>>221344786>People will see female action movies if they're done rightNo. They won't. Because they're fucking stupid. They are a minority niche film for a small market. Made with a small budget, and they can make money, but they don't appeal to the mass audience.>two parts made over $330milThat's worldwide. They tanked domestically. Vol 1 earned $70 mil domestic, and Vol 2 couldn't even earn that taking in only $66 mil. Reported budget of $110 mil for both, add another $55 mil for marketing, and that means total estimated costs of $165 mil, meaning they needed at least $330 mil worldwide just to break even, which they barely did thanks to the foreign market.Only Tarantino fans and beta simps watched the Kill Bill girl boss slop films. It was rejected by the audience at large. As are most girlboss slop films.
>>221344684lmao you sound like one of those guys who sees a UFC champ 50 pounds below you and thinks that you would easily kick their ass.Prime Gina would choke you out, then rape you with a strap-on, then make you suck her sweaty toes
>>221345112>ummm ACTUALLY tickets are only real if they're sold in the USA!Cope all you want but your empire is dying
>>221341034Make a Stellar Blade movie with the mc as hot, kind, feminine, soft spoken, and humble as Eve, and you'll attract men and boys in droves.
>>221341034>There's no market for femoid superheroes??
>>221345112>That's worldwide. They tanked domestically. Nobody cares, money is money. >Reported budget of $110 mil for both, lol what? No, the combined budget was $60 mil ($30M each). Even if it earned $0 internationally (since for some reason you claim only domestic money counts) it still did well.BTW, since you don't count any of the international box office you should also exclude the international budget (since a lot of it was filmed in Asia and had Asian actors). So the domestic budget is like $30M total against $136M domestic box office. Breddy gud.
>>221345116You obviously didn’t see the Rousey-Carano fight that lasted exactly 15 seconds. Gina sucks at wrestling and is a mediocre striker at best. A15 year old boy with basic striking skills would destroy her
>>221345195alita was a cyborg not a superhero
Female led superhero movies make about as much sense as male led romcoms.
>>221342372>>221342435
>>221342733If he was born in Britain, he'd be Matt Brat
>>221345116She was always a fraud
>>221345195Not a super hero, not a man hating girl boss.
>>221345251>A15 year old boy with basic striking skills would destroy herhot
>>221345296The “fight” was such a joke and was either rigged or Carano’s team sucks. How the fuck did they not prep for an immediate takedown and arm bar. Literally Rousey’s only move
>>221345251>You obviously didn't see the 44-year-old woman who hadn't competed in over 15 yearsYou're obviously a Zoomer who doesn't actually watch sports. I guess Mike Tyson is trash too then
LETS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>221345371You think that fight was legit? Hahaha!
>>221344646Canada is a very silly place
>>221345391You think Carano actually have a shit about her fight beyond an easy paycheck?
>>221344972>female actionIs shit. Only beta simps watch that trash, but they don't represent a large enough audience to make them worth producing.
>>221345410KEK! I don't know if this is some reference to any actual scene from the show, but just the fact that Meadow was a woke progressive type who would be embarrassed by this while Tony would definitely rub it in is enough
>>221343500There's a separation in that Ballerina is a spinoff trying to coast on the popular original format (John Wick). Supergirl has a similar problem, she's her own character, but exists in relation to Superman. Doubly so in the movie world, anyone who doesn't read comics or watch cartoons has no point of reference other than a side character to the actually popular character.>>221341076Which makes Wonder Woman an interesting exception, since she has name recognition and a mythology of her own.>>221345195Another good example. Alita IS the star, not a side project, not some derivative to a popular franchise. People don't have a problem with Ripley, they watched Xena. Jean Grey and Mystique were basically co-leads in the X-Men movies (even if they turn increasingly cringe with writing they made money and lots of them). Wandavision was extremely popular. The question of why the movies don't work is imo primarily about the material not being good enough, rather than the concept of a woman led movie or show itself.
>>221345419Obviously not. Doesn’t discount the fact she isn’t a wrestler and never was. She’s a mediocre striker. Stop acting like she’s Amanda Nunes
>>221345116You sound like one of those "guys" that didn't wrestle in high school or train BJJ in the Army afterwards. Just because you're a pussy doesn't mean that the "average" man is, let alone a trained man.
>>221345371Every pro fighter this faggot "performed" with could have utterly murdered him if that suddenly became the paycheck condition. Even the old retired ones. Mike could have killed him and his faggot brother simultaneously.
>>221345140Cope all you want, but facts are facts.
>>221343500That is John Wick wearing out its welcome. Keanu didn’t want to do another one and the studios thought the audience would follow the franchise away from its titular protagonist. Not a good example, tbqhwyfamalama
>>221341034I'm going to download and watch it for Millie, but I didn't pay for Slopperman so never planned on paying for Sloppergirl either.That said, they make a movie about a cool female character like X-23 (miss me with that chink), Blink, Spider-Woman, Witchblade - I'd fucking lap that shit up. They just keep picking the shittiest female characters to make movies about. Who wants to see fucking Ms. Marvel or Black Widow?
>>221345166>you'll attract men and boys in droves.No. They won't. You disgusting simp pussies represent an exceptionally small segment of the population. Normal men and boys, alike, think girlboss slop is dumb as fuck and ignore it, if not mock it outright.
>>221345231>combined budget was $60 milBy the numbers lists both films at $55 mil per. Could be wrong, though. Budgets numbers are always fucky.>should also exclude the international budgetNow THAT is some serious cope.
>>221345467This. AJ went off script and shattered the faggot’s jaw haha
>>221345195This movie wasn't successful. That's why despite James Cameron backing it there's been no sequel.
>>221345251>A15 year old boy with basic striking skills would destroy herA trained 14 year old boy would wreck the shit out any female "professional" fighter in their respective sport.
>>221345514>He's too young to remember the good, successful female led action movies from before the feminists took overYou need to be 48 to post here.
>>221345643>good, successful female led action movies from before the feminists took overName 5.
>>221345643>48 years old>still simping for bitches like a 13 year oldPathetic.
>>221341034HEROES AMONG US
>>221345692>Kill Bill>Alien>Aliens>Terminator>Terminator II
>>221341076You mean David Thewlis
>>221345721God these people are mentally ill
>>221345692AliensTerminator 2BarbarellaRed SonjaResident EvilUnderworld I spit on your graveHellraiserNightmare on Elm StreetSilence of the LambsThe DescentWonder WomanI now eagerly await your planetary orbital, tectonic plate shifting, interstellar traveling goal post movement.>>221345707I accept your concession.
>>221345721"Undocumented" makes it sound like these people live off the grid or misplaced their immigration paperwork rather than it not existing at all.
>>221345829Almost all of those are Final Girls which a horror trope.
>>221345692In addition to the ones already mentioned by others, it would be a crime not to include Tomb Raider
>>221345855>I now eagerly await your planetary orbital, tectonic plate shifting, interstellar traveling goal post movement.I'm not even that guy, I'm just saying
>>221345829Oh and the two McG Charlie's Angels movies.>>221345855I graciously accept your concession.
WB will now #RestoreTheSnyderverse
>>221345497>Who wants to see fucking Ms. Marvel or Black Widow?Plenty of people wanted to see a Black Widow movie, but they kept kicking the can, waited until ScarJo was old and busted and HER CHARACTER CANONICALLY DIED to do a prequel. This should have been out with the Captain America movies, and been their more spy focused/black ops side of the story.
>>221341131He's a fag, no less. We all know the lawsuit.
>>221343033Many such cases, without it there'd be no Austin comedy scene.
>>221345855>erm technically a few were not action moviesWeak.
i would've watched this movie if the monkey would've shut her mouth about palestineshitsucks to suck
>>221345451>Which makes Wonder Woman an interesting exception, since she has name recognition and a mythology of her own.yeah but that has always been the case, regardless of the movie
>>221341034I just don't understand why anyone cares enough to have an opinion on the matter in the first place. It's a movie. If you wanna see it, go see it. Why does everything have to be a made up cultural issue?
>>221345982Sorry you were triggered, Jew. America doesn't want to pay for your war anymore.
>>221343533>>221343805>le baby!jesus christ what forced bullshit
>>221346037>Sorry you were triggeredI'm not. I saved money by not watching that shit. Take your politics elsewhere
>>221341131>>221345908Prove him wrong
I remember in Matt Walsh’s documentary, he goes to Africa or something and says that is what America should be like because of their gender roles.
>>221346014Impossible to say who benefits from disaffected men constantly getting angry at women and minorities. I've never heard of Matt Walsh before so I don't know what his day job is, and I'm too lazy and stupid to google it.
>>221343533remember that they made a point about Supergirl not having romance and how brave that ispretty much every male superhero movie has this shit for the ladies
>>221342435Superboy
>>221345893>>221345829Oh, the Hunger GamesKill BillDivergent (sort of)
>>221345902/Agree. Black widow played by scarjoe was pretty well liked by both sides. If they did it right (lol yeah they never do) It would have been just another decent marvel flick
>>221346245Where's his dick?
>>221341034Sounds like a skill issue.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QGsevnbItdU
>>221341034critics don't like it? shit it must be great then
>>221346382isn't this a sing-along cartoon for little girls? like frozen?
Al female action movies are either horror final girls, ridiculous cartoon level like Kill Bill or Underworld or the females were not Mary Sues. Sarah Connor was not a Mary Sue. She started off weak, toughened up but did not defeat T1000 all by herself. Same with Ripley and Katnis. Katnis wasn’t beating up guys. She had one skill, a bow which doesn’t require physical strength
>>221345451>Which makes Wonder Woman an interesting exception, since she has name recognition and a mythology of her ownNo, retard. It's because it's a tragic romance. You poindexters always overthrow the reason when it's all just so simple.
>>221346379He looks Asian.
> Push Carol as MCU female lead. Audiences don't warm to her.> Wanda unexpectedlyvecomes hugely popular.> Marvel turns her into an irredeemable lame one dimensional villain and kills her off.Marvel has no lead female in Doomsday or Secret Wars, which are both going to be sausage fests.
>>221346410apparently the villain is some Epstein guy and they it
>>221346483*they hate it
apologize to Wokegirl
>>221341034It will get a billie, chuds and incels BTFO.
it wouldn't be so bad if they weren't so averse to origin movies
>>221342789Marvel doesn't have any iconic female heroines.All the most famous superheroines are DC.
>>221346483>>221346495zamn
>>221346543>it wouldn't be so bad if they weren't so averse to origin moviesThat wouldn't have made Supergirl not flop, bro. Be serious.
It was written by a woman for women in the male-dominated genre. It’s the box office bomb and has the “worst script”. Women in the work place.
>>221346548>Marvel doesn't have any iconic female heroines.
>>221346548I would have said She-Hulk, if they didnt butcher her to hell and back in that shit ass tv series.
>>221346676You didn’t need to prove his point even more.
>>221346523This shit isn't even making $300m you dumb shill
>>221346676nobody knows who storm is except 30+ year old comic book readers
>>221346523That's the lowest effort pepe box office meter I have ever seen. About right for this shitty film.
there's a market but they have to be full on titty pictures to get the market interestedthis applies to female and gay audiences as well. There's a reason there is this nostalgia for Lynda Carter Wonder Woman, Elektra , Catwoman, etcJames Bond movies used to do well because it was a guy men wanted to be and women wanted to be withSupergirl should have been a character women want to be and men want to be with, but she isn't
>>221346937>Supergirl should have been a character women want to be and men want to be withBingo.
>>221341034Why would you introduce Supergirl this soon into your DC universe anyways? She feels like a phase 2 type of character We just had a sups movie why have a "sups but female" movie this soon?
>>221341034This movie is getting no marketing
>>221341076WW in the movie actually enjoyed helping and saving regular people. Something you never see in any post-2010 "strong woman" slop
>>221341034Should have made her cute
>>221345277What's the age of consent on krypton?
>>221341131But what is a woman though?
>>221346966This. Age of B list character drawing audiences is over post covid and steaming era. Only A listers sell. Spider Man, Batman, etc. Rushing a Supergirl movie was stupid. Now going to kill themomentum Superman was building. Man of Tomorrow is in trouble and it just started filming
>>221341034No one wants to see girlboss.Here's the version of this movie that works just based on what I understand of the plot:>Supergirl has lost her planet, doesn't know what to do, feels alone, can't relate to Clark because he's an Earthling basically>but Krypto makes her feel better about herself and like she has a friend>krypto gets stolen/kidnapped/whatever>Supergirl has to get him back, audience understands because everyone loves their pets>Supergirl is kind of shit at using her powers because she never has before and is scared, not knowing how much she can do or handle>meet Lobo who is a no fucks given space bounty hunter and secretly there's a bounty on her as well as a kryptonian and he's looking to collect both her AND Krypto for the bounty so if he follows her he'll get both>goes to capture her just talking to her first, but she wins his heart telling him about her lost planet because he's the last of his kind too with no friends and understands wanting to save Krypto>Lobo acts as the muscle while Supergirl acts as the heart, she softens his edge a bit getting him not to just outright kill people he doesn't have to, he teaches her how to toughen up in a cruel universe and use her powers when necessary and not to be afraid>end of act 2 revelation that Lobo was just using her at first to get the bounty on her and she runs away from him, feeling betrayed because the one person she came to think of as a friend started out looking to hunt her>Lobo feels bad about it and in the final act shows up to save her and Krypto against bad guyIt's so simple. This is boilerplate three act odd couple arc writing. Instead they once again have their female lead who's strong and infallible who don't need saving and is just as ass kicking competent as the guys from the start, so she's got no where to go in character development.
>>221345721These fucking Karens are all over here in MN. Uppity white bitches who are single or have fat, red faced, alcoholic husbands who are so henpecked they think one weekend a year of "hunting" in a cabin is freedom. I fucking hate this state.
>>221345730>>Kill BillI don't agree that that's a good film series.>>Alien>>AliensNeither of these were "girlboss" films. What made Ripley such a compelling character was the fact that she WASN'T a "girlboss". To the credit of the writers, Ripley always kept her femininity, was a reluctant leader, and did what she did out of necessity in Alien, and out of a maternal instinct in Aliens. Great character, but not a "girlboss".>>Terminator>>Terminator IISarah Connors in Terminator was along for the ride with Reese, and T-2 she was Arnolds' sidekick, and she too, like Ripley, was acting as a result of a strong maternal instinct. It's that maternal instinct and femininity that endeared her to the audience.I agree with you 100% that both Ripley and Sarah Connors were excellent female characters, but I don't agree that characters like Cpt Marvel, or the chicks from the Charlies Angels reboot, or hardly any other modern female characters come close to them. Today the "girlboss" has her femininity stripped away and is little more than a woman trying to wear a mansuit, and the audience just doesn't relate to that.
>>221341034RIP Milly Alcock (April 11, 2000-sometime this year) She will KILL herself. God willing she does it soon.
>>221345829>BarbarellaThought it was trash.>Red SonjaToo cheesy. At least we had Arnie.>Resident Evil>Underworld Didn't watch due to lack of interest.>I spit on your graveSaw that way back in the day but can't remember anything about it, so it didn't make an impact.>HellraiserDidn't watch.>Nightmare on Elm StreetNo "girlboss" in that film imo.>Silence of the LambsGood flick, but Agent Starling wasn't a "girlboss". She never lost her femininity and was vulnerable. The audience related to her exactly because she was feminine and vulnerable, and yet prevailed.>The Descent>Wonder WomanDidn't watch either of them.I addressed the alien/terminator films in another post.
>>221347059>kill the momentum Superman was buildingWhat momentum? It was considered a disappointment which is why it went to streaming early.
>>221345856>Tomb RaiderDidn't watch that one. I tend not to watch female lead films.
Had they made Supergirl colourful like the comic it is based on, it would likely do well. It would have caught people's attention.Instead they made it poorly lit and full dull browns and greys.
>>221347183>Had they made Supergirl colourful like the comic it is based on, it would likely do wellWrong, dork.
>>221344010>160 lbs>Gina in that photoAnon she was 200 lbs back then
>>221341076Yes, and by actually having her be somewhat feminine, being in love with a man, caring for life, this supergirl movie isn’t much different than the Captain Marvel movie where she’s acting pist off, like she doesn’t wanna be there, hates men, and only made a billion because of Avengers
>>221345465You sound like an internet toughguy who is both a sad pathetic loser AND fictionally illiterate (btw Gina would still bootyblast you)
>>221343500Ballerina failed mostly because it had a similar budget as Jon wick four and thought that it being a spin off of Jon fucking wick would put people in seats. If it was sensibly budgeted it would’ve made its money back enough to justify a sequel that had a bigger budget
>>221341076>Chris Pine carried the fuck out of that movie on his backdid most of Gal Gadot's exposition/dialogue for her
>>221344676People dislike super? That was his best movie by far
>>221345562>you have to exclude revenue from other countries because money only exists in America >REEEEE YOU CAN'T JUST EXCLUDE MONEY SPENT IN OTHER COUNTRIES!!!lol>Ne Zha 2 was a flop because it cost $80 million but made almost nothing [in the US]lmao>>221345481Correct. And here are the facts: >>221344786Seething won't change the facts.
>>221343375>Gal Gadot is a fucking horrible actress and the battle with Ares is lackluster.They had a really cool premise of Ares becoming an abstract concept of unstoppable war but instead collapsed him into a standard capeshit villain that shoots laser beams instead of making a point (literally the Lord of War film did Ares better than this and there was no cartoon metaphysics in that film).there was the bones of a good script, scrapped in the 3rd Act.
>>221345277kek
>>221347194>Anon she was 200 lbs back thenOf fat, sure, but she fought around 140 pounds.
>>221347581You sound like a pussy who is both a sad pathetic loser AND a self loathing beta male.
>>221347162You’re an idiot
>>221347684>Seething won't change the facts.So why are still seething?
>>221346614Reminder that this is based on a story written by a literally CIA agent
>>221342372Nah, WW84 was a failure. Women want to be the center of attention in a group mostly. This is why Suicide Squad 1 was loved by women.They also want a hot romance, but being sexy and desirable is their power fantasy.
>>221341034Isn't Matt Walsh the Israel guy?
>>221341034Chuds get their opinions from gay zionists now
>>221341034>There's no market for femoid superheroes??That may be, but they never stop trying.How bad was the fucking Batgirl movie that it's the only one they refused to release. THe thought haunts me. They've released and promoted and defended so much irredeemable garbage or just under whelming nothings of a movie. What was in this that made them say "NOPE, this is a step too far"?
>>221347773I am not seething because the facts agree with me which is why you haven't refuted them. In fact your entire argument is nothing but somehow claiming that money doesn't exist outside the US. Do you have a source for this claim? Because I travel a lot and every country I have traveled to, things cost money so I do not know why you are claiming that money outside the US doesn't exist. Even stranger that you claim money spent outside the US counts but money earned outside the US doesn't. I don't think any studio would be disappointed by Ne Zha 2, but you think it was one of the biggest flops of all time because you are a coping brainlet
>>221341034It's not even about women being small. Wolverine is small. It's about the fact that women are not likeable. Movies with female leads do worse in general.
>>221341034Superman and white women are india's two favorite things, so it'll do well over there.
>>221342936>>221343616either of these would be kino, a love triangle would 100% get the female audience on board too
>>221347877had nothing to do with quality, the story hinged entirely on Michael Keaton being Batman and that was scrapped by Gunn
>>221347803>WW84 was a failure.not that muchit was released during the pandemicthe blu-ray/dvd sales were goodeven that shit would have made around 600m in normal times
>>221347877>David Zaslav is an honest man, he would never lie to us about the quality of a movie
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With male superheroes there are alot of great, interesting stories to draw from, but with superheroines there is very little in DC's case, and literally none at all in Marvel's case (Marvel, in its 60 odd years, has not produced even one decent story about any of their women).Marvel ruined Scarlet Witch just as she was becoming popular by imitating the retarded Bendis-penned stories from the comics.
> Noel Coward famously argued that if a writer has a philosophy or political message, they must be "a good enough craftsman to do it with so much spice of entertainment in it that the public get the message without being aware of it".Alas most modern writers subscribe to the Garth Marenghi attitude of "subtext is for cowards."
>chuds hate a blonde girl blue eyed aryan girl now What happened
>>221346614I don't understand why execs are fine with injecting women into male dominated hobbies and thinking they will just fit in. It can work sometimes. Various anime like Ranma, Demon Slayer, FMA, etc that were written by women end up very popular with men. But the running theme is that these works, despite being written by women, are written in a way that doesn't lecture men for liking things that they like and being how they naturally are.But whatever the west has been trying with this female injection shit hasn't been working.
maybe they should make something based on original female heros made by female creators?this is like japs making goku-girl instead of sailor moon
>>221346979Don't they heavily imply she will get with the black guy in this show? Lol
>>221350164It's because they unironically think that the male audience is captive to the IP or brand and will support it regardless. The idea that fans of something might stop becoming fans of it if it gets turned into something that panders to a completely different demographic (or outright insults them while doing so) is completely foreign to them.
>>221342372My girlfriend really liked the couples in the early MCU films. She loved seeing Tony and Pepper, and Cap and Peggy. Like most people, she lost interest in the MCU after Endgame, but for her, the lack of couples is one of the reasons why. I didn’t even notice this until she pointed it out to me, but the new heroes almost never have any love interests. Even characters who used to have them got separated from their partners, like Doctor Strange and Star-Lord.She's actually looking forward to the new Spider-Man, not because of Grey Hulk or Jean Grey, but because she wants to see if Peter and MJ will get back together. I’m not sure if Marvel is just incompetent and no one in focus groups pointed this out to them, or if they’re just so deep in woke ideology that they refuse to give women what they actually want.
>>221350242If you are pissing your pants about fucking supergirl you are not actually a fan of comics, superheroes or indeed western civilization.
>>221341034What the fuck is going on? Is this garbage so irredemable that even the most pozzed media outlets and reviewers are breaking ranks?>>221341131>woman reaction imageYou are a tranny. kys.
>>221341084Why did they make it skin-colored?Would the proper brown have looked like shit?
>>221341034Stop adapting Tom King’s slop.
>>221342523People showed up for captain marvel because it came out during the peak of marvel hype but was one of the films that started to degrade that hype with how shitty it was.
>>221341131Prove him wrong tranny.
>>221350945>literally cannot stop mentioning trannies
>>221342523Captain Marvel came out in-between Infinity War and Endgame and everyone thought that it would be only relevant because of the after credits scene in Infinity War
>>221345448https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6-OmjwkMNMY
>>221347788as much as i dislike king, the problem is that they gave supergirl to someone with no experience beyond a short movie and two plays, and then gave her teen titans and wonder woman before they got any feedback on supergirl.the dcu batman movie is going to be shit for the same reason, they've hired the woman who wrote birds of prey and flash for it, after she fucked off to write the next fast and furious, got replaced and came crawling back to gunn and safran
>>221341034Supergirl is just kinda boring. Wonder Woman already has the girlboss thing going with a hint of BDSM to it, meanwhile Power Girl has the sex and humor appeal so Supergirl can't do that either. Her being an alcoholic failure who redeems herself at the end would have worked but it would then upset women and upped the age-rating much higher because of booze.
>>221341034We need to keep bullying her in tandem to the box office tanking her career so she commits suicide. We can do this!
>>221341034There is no market for things not made for men by men period
>>221341131You have to go back.
>>221350454>but because she wants to see if Peter and MJ will get back together.If there are any brains left in Sony, they would stretch that out by introducing Felicia Hardy and Gwen Stacy. Black Cat would inject some much more mature fun.
>>221341034blowhard
>>221341034The only people who were ever interested in female superheroes were men.If you make a movie that goes out of its way to be antagonistic towards the only people that give a shit about your product why would you act surprised then they don't turn up?This is like McDonald's saying that fat people are worthless faggots who should be fed into a woodchipper.
>>221351451It's funny because now you know that he's a pedophile, the way he seems engaged as he watches Caulkin's character walk away has more context.
>>221351243>Supergirl is just kinda boring. Wonder Woman already has the girlboss thing going with a hint of BDSM to it, meanwhile Power Girl has the sex and humor appeal so Supergirl can't do that either.Their best bet would be to look at the best part of the 1984s film which was Helen Slater herself. She did a virtuous wide-eyed innocent-but-not-stupid character who was quite charming and endearing.But obviously that's absolutely anathema to the current Hollywood mindset, so, well, here we are.
Nah they're more perfect than superman so it's kinda boring
