Mad she cast as nothing but racial stereotypes? I mean what else would she be cast as? Being a racial stereotype is her entire act!
>>221342563There are only so many roles a fat black woman can convincingly play.
>>221342563>I mean what else would she be cast as?some gorilla monkey
>>221342563Early Life on the SNL writers?
doodoo brown
>>221342563lol it feels like every black on SNL is always there to just be the token minstrel
>>221342563Why did she stereotype herself in every possible way outside of SNL?
>>221342563>david spade says he was repeatedly cast as yuppie asshole>chris farley says he was repeatedly cast as fat retard>will ferrell says he was repeatedly cast as loud dumb guy>jan hooks says she was repeatedly cast as WASPy ladycould you imagine
>>221342857bowen yang actually complained recently they only cast him as the gay asian guy in every sketch lmao dude thats your only shtick you dont do anything else!
>>221342563more like>Gorilla And Comedian Leslie Jones Wants Attention
>>221342921these people cant stop biting the hand that feeds
SNL has a writer's room but the cast is also expected to write or at least pitch ideas too. If you interviews of the cast or read anything about the behind the scenes stuff it's filled with cast who got more air time due to their own character ideas.She just never bothered to play anything but angry black chick. Bulk of her comedy is just angry black chick too
>>221342563who?
>>221342969>chickThere's nothing "chick" abut that woman. Use other terms like>>221342652>>221342685
>>221342563>new York postwhy do chuds fall for boomer rage bait?
Leslie Jones was funny but a terrible stage performer. I assume she wrote some good skits before appearing as a member, but she was also pushed by Chris Rock to be on the show.She WAS cast as racial stereotypes because she had very little range and was only funny when screaming.Patti was the only good character in Ghostbusters 2016
>>221342563imagine those sambo lips on your cock
>>221342921His biggest bit was as a pigmy hippo
>>221343021All fun and games until her monkey brain mistakes it for a banana
>>221342563Why do niggers do nothing but complain?If she was genuinely a good actress and not a big nigger she would have been cast in more movies and shit. She obviously isn't fun to be around.
That abstract statue of MLK and his wife in Boston is ugly as fuck. Can't be bothered to hear what she said tho.
>stop casting me as the loud mouth big black woman says the loud mouth big black woman
>>221343017>only funny when screamingY-yeah, because who doesn't recall fond memories when a loud sassy obese black woman is screaming? Right guys?
>>221342563She’s like the version of that nigger from Star WarsTheir giving Zendaya plenty of roles and she doesn’t act like a ghetto bitchMaybe your just not talented and your ugly did that ever cross your mind Leslie?
>>221342563Ugly loud untalented ghetto bitch mistakes her lack of talent for racism Their giving Zendaya plenty of rolesYour just an ugly manly hood rat and that’s how people perceive you
>>221343098Tis a weird subject matter for someone very notably not faithful to his wife
>>221342563Every modern SNL skit has the white guy as the ignorant racist/Trump supporter. So I don’t see what she’s complaining about.
>>221342563
>>221342563For her part in knowingly promoting corrosive racial stereotypes while happily accepting a paycheck to do so, I call upon God to ensure that this loathsome hypocritical whoredaughter burns in hell for all eternity.Amen.
>>221343017She got hired because Kenan didn't want to play female parts anymore so they needed someone to play fat, loud, ugly, black female parts that he had been putting costumes on for.
Some people are still having a meltdown because they can't understand that entertainment is largely about appearances and so racism is literally required. Because it wouldn't make any sense to cast a fat black woman in any role other than one that was specifically written for a fat black woman. It's not injustice it's just common fucking sense.
This ugly monster couldn't even keep a straight face through most of the sketches she was in and flubbed her lines all the time, and she's complaining that they didn't give her more shit to do?I'm sick of people pretending MadTV wasn't better than SNL
>>221342563and now she's not cast at all
>>221342563See, even when you give them what they want it is never good enough. That disgusting fucking ape should just be thankful she was ever on TV.
>>221342563It's not enough to include them, they need ever increasing status forever.
>>221343674christ, those are some frumpy ugly beastsi know woman comedians are supposed to be fat and ugly, but this is going overboard!
has she tried not looking like a gorilla
>>221344202Cecily was hot before she got fat and walled
why not get artie lange to play a fat negro woman
>>221342563I forgot about that statue that looks like black guys rimming each others assholes.
I feel like I'm not being racist or sexist to point out that Leslie Jones in particular seems to be one of the worst people on earthThat there might in fact exist fat loud black women that are more tolerable than her, specifically
>>221342921I saw one where he played JD Vance.
Somehow, Harambe returned.
>complaining about phoning in the same performance over and over again for easy money and being able to pull the race card if they try to can you
Leslie you were so bad you could only play yourself no matter the part.
>>221342563I am also frustrated by people repeatedly casting Leslie Jones
>>221342563>Is ignant, I'm just axin' why they gotta make me the stereotype erry time make dat make sense
>>221342563I've seen her butthole
>>221344833Did the abyss stare back?
>>221342563Isn't that the bulk of her own comedy?
>>221344833god dammit I had locked that memory away
>>221342637A fat, UGLY, black woman. To be exact.
>>221342563Why did they always cast her as a gorilla?
Why hasn't SNL hired Jake Novak yet?! >Acts>Sings>Like a mix of Andy Samberg and Lin-Manuel Miranda>Jewishhttps://youtu.be/Sy4U5AEU56Y?si=RqdVSxmjsLx4bAXOIt makes zero sense. What the fuck is Lorne Michaels thinking squandering this talent?
>>221342563Well she looks like a racial stereotype, which I expect is why they hired her. Probably should just take the paycheck.
>>221344833I've seen black holes too
>>221344249he does better black people voices and inflections than 90% of actual black people
>>221345863Literally, how has he not killed himself yet?
>>221342563>Be living racial caricature>"Why do people treat me like a racial caricature???"
>>221342563blacks: "Down with colorblindness." "Hollywood needs to center and prioritize our blackness and the racial experiences of Bipoc bodies!" Hollywood: "Ok." blacks: "Noooooo, not like this, aaaaaaggghhhhh – das rayycisss!"
>>221343001>boomer rage baitNow you know how it feels when people read the headlines of the other 90% of mainstream media.
>>221345863he reminds of of an untalented paul latza
>>221342563bitch finna be slaw
why the hell should we all be forced to pretend she doesn't look like a shaved gorilla with a brillo pad on its head?
She is so giant and black and huge and gorilla looking and LOUD with a gigantic mouth and manly stature and zero ability to act. What other rolls could she possibly play.
>>221342563We, as an audience, need to be more accepting of women of color in roles traditionally taken by white men. There is no reason why a period piece has to be bound by racial demographics of the past, for example.
>>221344833Why?
>>221343143>loud mouth big black womanblack women, jews and the rest of The Oppressed™ are uniquely privileged in that they are the only ones who can boldly label any negative depiction in media, whether it's a genuine and common observable fact or not, as a "harmful trope" or "rayciss stereotype." With whites, it's not only acceptable, but encouraged, even rewarded.
>>221342563Because her only "talent" is being loud and obnoxious
>>221342563That's a man.
>>221344849I'm blind now, but it's probably for the best>>221346279I had to get it on
>>221342563Pretty much every black cast member of SNL has said this, even way back with Eddie Murphy.
>>221342563that retard should be happy someone's willing to cast her at all
>>221345853A distinction that needed to be made.
snl still astroturfing on tv i seebaffling that they dont realize snl is for 50 year olds and 10 year olds. its not the 4chan demographic
>>221344584dicks out gentlemen
>>221343169She is sublime. In a word, she is...ZENDAYA
>>221342563SNL is a cult. If you watch the interview where she talks about this, she says that they create a persona for you. That’s what cults do. They destroy you on a personal level, give you a new identity to live with, and then kick you to the curb when they’re done with you like you’re an old toy that you stopped being fun to play with. It’s even replete with its own Marshall Applewhite looking cult leader who none dare contradict. In his book “Combatting Cult Mind Control”, Steve Hassan categorizes cults into four groups: religious, political, psychotherapy/educational, and commercial. SNL is a commercial cult: its members are dependent on it for their financial survival and it exists to make NBC ad revenue. Hassan notes that most cults have five types of members, depending on their commitment to the cult: top leaders, sub leaders, core members, rank and file members, and fringe members. The SNL equivalent to this being writers / cast members, featured players / new writers, extras, and finally crew. The casting process would lead you to believe that only the funniest who audition get cast. However, plenty of very talented and very funny actors and comedians have been turned away. That seems to negate that presupposed qualification. In reality, they hire those who exist at the intersection of being good enough and being desperate for the job. The key factor being are they willing to swear a pledge of fealty to the cult and do as they’re told.
>>221342652THIS!
>>221342563The quintessential sheboon
>>221342563I am embarrassed to say that I’ve seen her butthole.
>>221342563Her naked tits made me very very sad
>>221342563that's a gorilla with makeup and you will not convince me otherwise
>>221342563>Agree to be a part of a show in exchange for playing roles and cash>Play them voluntarily>Do this for five straight years>6 or 7 years after you quit: "Uhhh...dey was RAYCIS!!!..."Why should anyone hire these entitled, fickle libshit mental-children when they're just going to take the paycheck and then immediately stab you in the back with slander as soon as they're done with you?Literally nothing good comes from professionally associating yourself with prog-zombies. Do not employ them. Do not give them opportunities.
>>221343449>When the Prevue Channel says Ghostbusters is on and it's this shit
>>221347662If you pay attention to cults, you notice a behavioral pattern that parallels that of an abusive husband and an abused wife; a narcissist and an empath. The abuser controls their spouse by humiliation and intimidation. This dynamic works because the empath feels that if they are being admonished, it must be because of something they’ve done- otherwise why would they be being punished? When confronted by outside parties, the abused make excuses for their abusers “You don’t know him like I do. It’s my fault- I shouldn’t have made him upset.” And the abuser excuses their abuse by framing it as love “I’m only doing this because I love you. Look what you made me do!” If you find yourself in SNL’s crosshairs and are mocked to an audience of millions and have the good fortune of encountering the writer or cast member responsible, they will reassure you “We only did that because we like you!” Y’know, like a gaslighting narcissist cult member would. Because it’s a cult!
>>221343204>Zendaya>Talented
>>221347662>>221347833I don't think it' a cult. It's just a job and most of the writers, actors, and staff know there's nothing else after you stop working there, so most of them kiss ass and do whatever it takes to secure their position
>>221347896Kenan plz go
Yes, I'm sure if there's one place that is filled to the brim with raving, backwards racists with confederate flag decals all over everything they own, it's the SNL Writers Room of the 2010's.Seriously, isn't it weird how even institutions that leftists have controlled top-to-bottom for decades are somehow STILL apparently rife with "racism"?
>>221343001the article is from the independent, the picture was sourced from the new york post, lefty troon.
Fellas, I'm real dang tired of niggers.
>>221347833So now you might be saying “Okay so there are some parallels to cults. But it’s not as if they make cast members they fire drink a poisoned flavor-aid beverage” and you’re right- they don’t do that. Because the mass death event they are working toward engineering isn’t for them; it’s for everyone. Now, that’s quite the accusation. Allow me to explain how I’ve come to this conclusion. NBC ran The Apprentice from 2004 to 2017, effectively branding Donald Trump as a savvy and competent business man instead of a sketchy con artist that he is. They convinced the lowest common denominator American of his pedigree and raked in millions doing so. In 2015, Donald Trump famously hosted the show as part of his presidential election campaign. Some sketches poked fun at his larger-than-life persona, while others seemed to legitimize him as a candidate. This was, understandably, very upsetting to audience and cast members alike. So why was it allowed to happen? Years later, when asked, Lorne explained his decision to let him host being rooted in the belief that he was not a serious candidate. How convenient! “Oopsie poopsie! I sacrificed the future of the republic at the altar of my show’s ratings! My bad!” And, for what it’s worth, I really wish that I could believe him. But I just can’t. Because I know that SNL receives higher ratings when a Republican is president. That means Mr. Michaels had a vested interest, a financial incentive, in getting Donald Trump elected in the first place. And maybe it’s that simple: business is business. No hard feelings, kid. But let’s extrapolate even further. For fun! Because I don’t think it stops there. This is purely speculation on my part, but I think Lorne Michaels is a member of a shadowy cabal of elites in entertainment and government actively working to eventuate the apocalypse.
>>221347992Thanks grok
>>221347992“And here, according to Trout, was the reason human beings could not reject ideas because they were bad:Ideas on Earth were badges of friendship or enmity.Their content did not matter. Friends agreed with friends, in order to express friendliness. Enemies disagreed with enemies, in order to express enmity.The ideas Earthlings held didn't matter for hundreds of thousands of years, since they couldn't do much about them anyway. Ideas might as well be badges as anything.They even had a saying about the futility of ideas: If wishes were horses, beggars would ride.And then Earthlings discovered tools. Suddenly agreeing with friends could be a form of suicide or worse.But agreements went on, not for the sake of common sense or decency or self-preservation, but for friendliness.Earthlings went on being friendly, when they should have been thinking instead. And even when they built computers to do some thinking for them, they designed them not so much for wisdom as for friendliness. So they were doomed. Homicidal beggars could ride.”-Breakfast of Champions, Kurt Vonnegut, Jr.There’s a lot to unpack from that quote. First of all, it’s an astoundingly accurate prediction of the future made in 1973 rooted in an understanding of human behavior more so than technology. Vonnegut was touching on the superficiality of personal politics; how purported personal beliefs were more a method of securing in-group status than anything else. How information technology would inevitably be co-opted to facilitate this conspicuous behavior of asserting one’s position and shaming opponents if only to ingratiate themselves with others who agree with them. He couldn’t know what form it would take but, to us in the present, it seems blatantly reflected in social media.
>>221348060Eat my entire asshole, bitch. I’m a human being with critical thinking skills and something to say
>>221348102bot
>>221346991wow how did this bitch dodge all the face fat, I've seen way skinnier women with way fatter faces
>>221348083The performance of expressing outrage isn’t done to effect change but to signal that you are correct; “I still consume the same as everyone else but forget about that for a moment to recognize me as one of the good ones.” If you spend enough time on these platforms, you start to recognize the pattern. Being correct is a hot commodity. Being incorrect means it’s your turn to be ritually sacrificed so others can assert how correct they are in comparison to you. What does any of this have to do with SNL? Well, it’s a show that has survived by adapting to the times in which it inhabits. It’s as much a taste-maker as it is a taste-taster. It’s show runner and head writers pay attention to what is in fashion in the comedy world and tries to cater to that. It isn’t widely known, but Johnny Knoxville had an offer from Lorne Michaels to air Jackass as shorts on SNL before he ultimately decided to air it as an MTV show. They saw the oncoming trend and tried to scoop it before it took on a life of its own. When SNL hired The Lonely Island to produce “Digital Shorts” that was as much about acquiring talent that reflected the current era of internet comedy and absorbing it into their brand as it was about promoting them and giving them an opportunity. When The Lonely Island left, they signed Good Neighbor comedy to fill in the gap. So what is the current form of comedy and how has that informed the casting? Parasocial relationships. The new path to stardom for young comedians is starting a podcast, creating an audience that is made to feel that they are your friends (when they absolutely are not), and then going on tour with shows that are less like stand up comedy and more like extended meet & greets. Of the new recruits at SNL, maybe one or two are actually funny. That’s not why most of them were hired. They were hired because they’re likable. The terms have been conflated but, I assure you, there’s a difference.
>>221348185thanks grok
>>221348185>They were hired because they’re likable.Can we get literally one example?
>>221348060i dont grok is gonna pump out that conspiracy silver
>>221348256a lot of people like that clown girl
>>221348185There’s an exchange I have with people when discussing comedians now and then that goes like this: “I saw X comedian last week.” “Oh, were they funny?”“Yeah, I liked them.”Yeah, that’s not what I asked. But they have come to mean the same thing to people. When that’s the world in which you find yourself in, you don’t hire someone who is hilarious but divisive; you hire someone who is innocuous and advertiser-friendly. Because they don’t make comedy movies anymore- they make funny advertisements. The foreign box office hates American humor and streaming services ate the revenue that used to come from the home video market. Internet comedy exists as a means for young comedians to create a following and secure brand deals. Saying anything that displeases the hive mind has become a life-ending anathema. Modern young people have become so consumed with a need for in-group acceptance that they never stop to consider which group it is they are vying for acceptance from or why. They just feel it in their gut that it’s necessary for survival. To not be accepted by as many people as possible could mean leading a suboptimal life. The second part of this excerpt from Vonnegut calls to mind the fact that 70% of U.S. teens use A.I. chat bots for companionship. SNL has nothing to do with that. It’s not as if they allowed a tech billionaire who owns a social media platform and an AI chat bot to host their show and launder his image. Oh wait. They did.
>>221344484Ok so he can play white gays too
>>221342563Only sketch she was good in was the Weezer sketch and anyone could have played that.
>>221344484Hm, in German, couches are gendered female, so he might not be gay
>literal gorilla bigger complains about being typecast as a gorilla nigger
>>221348310thanks grok
>>221348310Ladies and gentlemen, Playboy Manbaby!https://youtu.be/rOvqskYFvxk?is=fE0uDU3OI9wG-NTe
>>221348178She didn't. Look at her jawline. It's constantly moving in weird ways because the filter is working overtime.
i liked artie lang as "that's my black mama" or whatever on MAD TV
>>221342563>Mad she cast as nothing but racial stereotypes?The fuck is wrong with that?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yAJnpaFRrlw
>>221348408Is that really the best you got? Anyone who's a nonbeliever is A.I.? How's that boot leather taste? Good?
>>221342563That's for hiring nogs, some never learn
>>221348428If I had to define the content of SNL’s writing, I would describe it as urbanite yuppie consumerist centrist agitprop. It asserts what the correct political take is for any given moment. Until a new moment arrives and then they amend it. It has no convictions and no gods except money. It follows in the grand opportunist tradition of ersatz protest that really boils down to saying whatever you need to in order to profit the most. Pandering to an ever diminishing demographic while trying to not piss off any corporation that buys ad time. They are defenders of the status quo. In his 2016 documentary “Hypernormalisation”, Adam Curtis argues that politicians, financiers, and technocrats have failed to manage a complex world, retreating instead into a simplified, fake version of reality to maintain the status quo. By promoting this "hypernormal" illusion, elites avoid genuine change, sedating society and preserving corporate power despite crumbling systems. There’s a moment in it where Curtis touches on the media produced during the end of the Soviet Union. It was clear to the average citizen that their society was collapsing but their politicians and media figures couldn’t just come out and say that, much less claim that things were good. With no other recourse, the only option they had was to defend the status quo or say nothing. During the August 1991 Soviet coup d'état attempt, state-controlled television replaced regular programming with a continuous loop of Tchaikovsky’sSwan Lakeballet. In December of 2024 when Luigi Mangione (allegedly) assassinated UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson, it put a spotlight on the reality of the American healthcare system and how, regardless of personal politics, many Americans have accrued insurmountable debt or even died being denied healthcare.
>>221348541SNL responded with a Nancy Grace sketch in which Sarah Sherman as Grace chastises people on the internet who turned Mangione into a sex symbol. The deflection from one man actually taking action to challenge the system in a way that resonated with average people who are needlessly made to suffer being “You only like him because he’s attractive”. When reality contradicts the panglossian narrative pushed by the corporate elites, SNL steps in with hyperreality to rein in the unwashed masses. We all know society is failing but faced with accepting that or believing a lie, we are conditioned to choose the lie. The image that this show trades on is one of being the irreverent truth-teller; the truth is that being a professional entertainer in this world is less like being Harrison Bergeron and more like being a hospice nurse of a dying empire, carefully administering palliative care and delaying the inevitable.
>>221347992>sacrificed the future of the republicThe was the Hart-Celler Act.
>>221348541>(allegedly)Don't do that. Don't be reddit on purpose. It's gay af.
>>221347930>Fellas, I'm real dang tired of niggers.Would you say that you're fatigued?
>>221348589In “The Image: A Guide to Pseudo-Events in America”, Daniel J Boorstin wrote: “Shakespeare, in the familiar lines, divided great men into three classes: those born great, those who achieved greatness, and those who had greatness thrust upon them. It never occurred to him to mention those who hired public relations experts and press secretaries to make themselves look great.”There’s a moment in an episode of Rick & Morty that seems unremarkable to most but I think about a lot. The protagonists hear a beacon device go off. The two have been called to join a team of heroes known as The Vindicators. Morty is overjoyed while Rick is unimpressed.Morty:Rick, the Vindicators only call when the universe itself is at stake! They're the first line of defense against evil! They're the guardians of the unguarded!Rick:They're the writers of their own press releases, Morty!It’s quick and gets lost in the mix of a rapid fire back and forth dispute. Not the stuff of memes- it’s no Pickle Rick. The entire episode calls into question who we present / accept as heroes and why. Boorstin wrote that for centuries before the invention of graphic media, heroes were chosen as if by providence. War was merciless and indiscriminate in choosing its casualties so to survive one must mean that a survivor was chosen by God. The dawn of the age of information meant that those who held the reins of the information disseminating machines could decide who was great. When they would convey “This person we selected to be the face of our network or brand is the best”, the audience wouldn’t cynically reply “Why? Because you said so?” They took them at their word. And what did that person do for the privilege of being a face professionally? Were they the most talented? Sometimes, sure. Sometimes they were the most beautiful. Sometimes it was because they knew the right people. Sometimes it was because they did something for a studio head or a director.
>>221347913>with confederate flag decals all over everything they ownWait, is that bad?
>>221348739I read every comment but yours in this post.
>>221348739The audition process for movies and television worked as a smokescreen to cover abuses of power. “We auditioned thousands of actors and objectively picked the best candidate.” Is a convenient narrative when the reality is the opposite. Yes, you auditioned thousands but you had made your decision before the process had even begun. So, knowing that calls into question the authenticity of hiring at SNL. We’re told they see tens of thousands of young hopefuls every year and only select the best of the best. In recent years, 4 of the new additions just happened to be related to people who were writers for the show or executives at the network. What are the odds?! What a co-ink-ee-dink! On the subject of nepo-babies, you may think I hate them for having taken an opportunity away from someone more deserving of it. That I hate them because they took a short cut and cheated themselves out of the ability to be a good writer because good writing comes from life experience and if you have none then everything you make is derivative of other comedians’ work. Au contraire! I don’t hate them. I pity them! Forgive the nepo-babies, for they know not what they were born unto! Would you hate a baby born in Plato’s cave who grew up to get a job making shadow puppets? Would you hate a child who was made to drink poison in Jonestown? I wouldn’t. Nepotism aside, where does that leave those woefully without the right connections? “Oh so not having industry connections must be a signifier of undeniable talent!”, you protest. Not so fast there, chief. That certainly may have seemed to be the case in the pre-internet video era. But the assertion collapses when you realize just how many people are talented in this specific field. The basis of the argument is that talent is rare. The reality of the situation is that’s just not true. Talent isn’t rare- opportunities in traditional media venues (television, movies) are.
>>221348739You young people think space is like 'Saturday Night Live.' You see it every day, so you dream of being in it, but *it* dreams of removing all the air from your body and making you float around it for eternity as a flash-mummified corpse. This is also what space wants..
>>221348310>Were they funny?>Yeah (they were funny), I liked themThey answered the question
>>221342563and yet she had no problem with being paid.Quit the fucking show and make a point, dont take a bunch of money and whine that you had a bad time.
>>221348793So what do they look for in prospective talent? I can only speculate, but I think the main attribute they look for is desperation; a willingness to comply with any and all demands. Someone who will swear an oath of fealty to the cult leader- uh, I mean show runner. Because look what happens to the people who contradict or betray him. They’re persona non grata. Bill Murray got to reprise his seat at the Weekend Update desk for the 50th anniversary. Chevy Chase was told to take a seat in the audience. There is another aspect that I think factors into casting in this day and age. Let’s momentarily turn our attention away from SNL and to Hollywood. Years ago, film actor Anthony Mackie gave an interview on the changing landscape of the entertainment industry. I’m paraphrasing, but he said in the 1980’s and 90’s, the movie star sold the film. Audiences would say “Let’s go see a Schwarzeneggar movie or a Stallone movie.” Now the brand is the draw. They say “Let’s go see an Iron Man or a Star Wars.” This move away from original stories to recognizable intellectual property benefited the studio system two fold. Obviously, adapting a brand with “pre-awareness” means advertising doesn’t need to work as hard to get butts in seats. But, additionally, it meant actors had less bargaining power. Chris Rock quipped when he hosted the Oscars “Clint Eastwood is a movie star. Tobey Maguire is not a movie star. Spider-Man is a movie star!” If the actor playing Peter Parker became unreasonable or uncooperative, recasting the role was less of an issue. And when that’s the system in place, studios don’t decide to hire the best actor or actress possible- they hire the one who is good enough but not so great that they have leverage. They don’t look for inimitable talent- they look for interchangeable talent. I feel like I might piss people off here so let me clarify: I’m not saying these people are bad at acting...
>>221348903I’m saying they are somewhere between average and good. A light 7 out of 10. They get hired to be the leads in these massive franchise films, the films make hundreds of millions of dollars, but the actors were never what attracted audiences. When these young unknowns lead small budget movies in between franchise installments, it’s purely symbolic: they are there to prop up the idea that they are movie stars. But when you compare the box office results, their non-franchise films simply do not compare. Because they aren’t movie stars in the old sense of the word. I’m not naming names because to do so would feel mean. But I don’t have to because you probably know who I’m talking about anyway. Okay, enough about how Hollywood is a crumbling pillar of culture- back to how SNL is a crumbling pillar of culture! What does this aside have to do with SNL anyway? Well, people have often described SNL as a “Launch Pad” for talent. What they mean by that is that cast members could parlay their tenure on the show into starring roles in comedy movies and sitcoms. And that was very true for a time. But no longer. Adam Sandler, Mike Meyers, Chris Farley, and Chris Rock would emerge from the show into leading men in Hollywood. Kind of the last to make that happen was Will Ferrel. By the time Andy Samberg left the show, Hollywood was backing out of making comedies for theatrical release. And I love Samberg and the Lonely Island! I’m not saying they weren’t good enough- I’m saying the market changed! What happened? Avatar happened. The MCU happened. The game shifted from spending 20 million on the production of a movie that could make 100 million and into spending 200 or 300 million to make a billion. The majority of that revenue comes from the foreign box office. And, unfortunately, comedy is very culturally subjective. When Guardians of the Galaxy came out, Americans loved it and Chinese people hated it.
>>221348967Hollywood doesn’t really make comedies anymore. The ones they do make usually go straight to streaming. That means SNL is a Launch Pad alright- a Launch Pad to nothing. “Oh but Bowen Yang is in movies!” He sure is. Was he the reason why people went to see Wicked? When the system was full of opportunities for comedians to act in movies and tv, the casting directors had an incentive to hire talent that was undeniable. Because if they didn’t scoop that talent, someone else would. Now? They have an incentive to find talent who would be nothing without the show. And it shows! Cast members used to leave gracefully to bigger and better things. Now, they hold on for dear life. Kenan Thompson has been there for nearly half of the show’s 50-year run. Colin Jost for two fifths. Mikey Day has been there for 13 years. I sympathize with them. They trained their entire lives to get on SNL and now there’s nowhere to go from there.
>>221342563No more career now grifting for fox biting the hand that fed her
>>221342563whats the giant turd looking thing on the left? and the right?
That doesn't make any sense because the cast writes their own skits. She WROTE those sketches
>>221348797Did you just reference fucking Rick and Morty?
>>221342700kam getting the snl bit fit saying nigger every other word while shane got fired for an old video of him making his eyes slanted is so fucking dumbi bet lorne hates himself for not bringing him on when he’s the biggest comedian in the world now
>>221343584that's actually plausible
>>221342563How is it even possible that she isn't a dyke?
>>221349012“Not long ago, I saw Billy Graham join with Shecky Green, Red Buttons, Dionne Warwick, Milton Berle and other theologians in a tribute to George Burns, who was celebrating himself for surviving eighty years in show business. The Reverend Graham exchanged one-liners with Burns about making preparations for Eternity. Although the Bible makes no mention of it, the Reverend Graham assured the audience that God loves those who make people laugh. It was an honest mistake. He merely mistook NBC for God.”-Neil Postman in “Amusing Ourselves to Death”What is comedy? It isn’t joy or happiness or contentment. If it were, you wouldn’t see professional comedians become alcoholics and drug addicts. When I was in high school, I was shocked to learn that my English teacher’s definition of irony was simply “contrast”. I think that’s our first clue. What does it take to provoke this nervous response called laughter? Evolutionary psychologists have speculated that laughter is a kind of survival mechanism against logical contradiction. The brain can conceive of meaning from abstraction “This drawn symbol means that object”, “This sound I make with my throat and mouth means that animal”. That is to say, making sense of the world. The brain can also conceive of things that do not make sense. When confronted with non-sense, the natural response is to laugh. Why? Because the alternative would be to explode. If not literally, then figuratively. If I hadn’t included that previous sentence, you would have found my irrational conclusion to a rational premise funny. Because of the contrast. It operates like a pressure release valve on a gasket or pressurized air chamber. All of the best comedians understand this: you build and build to a punchline which then deflates the problem you presented the audience. If you want to learn how to become a comedian, you shouldn’t watch any movies about comedians; you should watch The Prestige.
>>221349070Yeah I gues I did. I'm just cool like that.
>>221349303The structure of a magic trick (The Pledge, The Turn, The Prestige) is virtually the same as that of a joke. Except you can streamline a joke to two steps: set up & punchline. In recent years, a third step has emerged as “The Tag” or “The Callback” both of which are really just forms of reiterating the punchline. Set up: you lead the audience down a road in their mind. Punchline: you reveal an endpoint which betrays the expectations you misled the audience to have. The best punchlines reveal something which simultaneously does and does not make sense. Contradiction. “My dog has no nose” “How does he smell?”“Awful!”-The Funniest Joke in the World (or at least the best the Nazis could come up with in response to it), Monty Python’s Flying CircusThis past Summer of 2025, the Saudi Arabian government held a comedy festival in its capital city of Riyadh. I, like many others, was disappointed in the comedians who agreed to perform. But why? The surface reasons were salient. This was a government that had killed an American journalist, had countless human rights abuses including indentured servitude of foreign workers (slavery), and they had funded the 9/11 hijackers. There’s an idea in comedy, popularized (if not created) by George Carlin, that you should only ever punch up. This is similar to the idea “Art should comfort the disturbed and disturb the comfortable.” If the subject of your joke is being ridiculed for something outside of their control (a handicap, a deformity, a disadvantage) then that’s just bullying. But if you use comedy to ridicule the powerful, then that’s justified. This idea has been conflated with actually fighting the power. In reality, it’s just teasing it. In any case, many of these professional comedians had established a brand as being pro freedom of speech. Yet here they were, gleefully accepting a job that required them to self-censor at the request of the Saudi royal family.
>>221349417Some of them didn’t even need the money and they still took the money. There were some who tried to apologize by donating the money they had received to charity. Some turned down the offer to perform so maybe there’s still hope. One person inadvertently did speak truth to power. Tim Dillon, in trying to write off his perceived transgression with a joke, displeased the event organizers to the point where they retracted his invitation to perform. All of this to say, I think I observed the hidden soft power of comedy in that moment. Dillon did not attempt to pretend that he or his employers were better than they were. He did the opposite. I’m paraphrasing (you can find the clip yourself) but he basically admitted that he would be happy to perform in any country with human rights violations so long as the money was right. I watched him joke about this as someone who was upset with him and his ilk, and I laughed. He’s funny! But here’s the danger. He deflated my opposition. I knew consciously that what he was claiming was wrong but, emotionally, I didn’t care. And this is the idea that has plagued me ever since coming to its conclusion: when the biggest comedy show on television opens every show with a scathing takedown of a corrupt president, is that speaking truth to power or is it manufacturing consent? Is that comforting the disturbed or placating them to the point of permitting his corruption? If you never interrogated this show’s relationship with the world, you might have just assumed that its writers or cast members are somehow brave; the proverbial child who exclaims that the emperor has no clothes on. What I’m asking you to consider is that the child is on the emperor’s payroll. Any risk you perceive is all smoke and mirrors. Part of the show. Controlled opposition that plays right into the hand of the person they appear to be challenging.
>>221349456“Expert textpert, choking smokersDon’t you think the joker laughs at you?”-“I Am the Walrus”, John LennonAm I suggesting that the president of the United States pays NBC or Lorne Michaels to mock him? No. Not directly anyway. I’m suggesting that they have a mutually beneficial relationship. Not a parasitic relationship which eventually ends with the parasite killing its host. A symbiotic relationship like that of a remora and a shark. SNL gets better viewership when a Republican is president. More viewers means more ad revenue & more “legitimate” claims at cultural relevance. What does the sitting Republican president get out of this arrangement? A liberal / left-leaning voter base that is pacified by SNL’s mockery of him and a conservative / right-leaning voter base that is galvanized by the indignation of watching smug, college-educated, blue-city-dwelling elites disrespecting him and anyone who supported him.
>>221349504On October 3rd, 1992, Tim Robbins hosted Saturday Night Live with musical guest Sinead O'Connor. After a performance of Bob Marley's "War" O'Connor held up a picture of Pope John Paul Il and tore it to pieces, saying” Fight the real enemy" in protest of abuse of children by priests in the Catholic Church and the systemic coverup within it. SNL is a show which trades on the image of being counter cultural, of being "punk rock", of speaking truth to power. Yet here was a woman putting her career on the line embodying all of those things and how did they treat her for it? They lampooned her. They portrayed her as a lunatic. As if to say "disregard anything this crazy bitch has to say”. Years later, she would be vindicated as reports of rampant sex abuse of minors and the shuffling of offending priests would become public knowledge. Pope John Paul II himself would issue an apology in 2001. No one at SNL ever apologized to Sinead O'Connor. Because while they present themselves as anti-establishment for clout, that image does not hold up to scrutiny in the slightest. The reality is they are the propaganda wing for the establishment. They let powerful politicians and billionaires use their platform to launder their image and attack anyone who dares challenge the status quo. And that's called elitism. And that is the opposite of punk rock. Recently, Lorne Michaels said in a statement that he had hoped to have O’Connor perform at the 50th anniversary. First of all, talk about too little too late! Second, how fucking convenient for him to say that now that she’s dead! All of this points to a larger pattern of behavior for the show: as if as a matter of policy, they show no mercy and they never apologize. If I had to guess why, I’d wager because to do so would set a bad precedent. Suddenly, everyone that they mock would expect an apology. To do so would contradict their faux-edgy brand of comedy.
>>221342563She was a goddamned gorilla linebacker; what roles did she expect to play? Nothing is ever enough for these people.
>>221349303>>221349417>>221349456>>221349504>>221349564Why's this thread getting botted
>>221349564Similarly, when Michaels called Taylor Swift and let her know the show would be parodying her “Bad Blood” video, Swift declined appearing in it and asked for the segment to be cut entirely. Michaels denied her request and quipped “Taylor, I do not negotiate with terrorists.” It was played off in internet articles as a cute moment. But I think it’s very telling that he chose to invoke the policy of a government which creates terrorists and then refuses to negotiate with them. And, not for nothing, normally I would side with a show runner in his position but… Taylor was right! That sketch should have been pulled! The sketch featured Tina Fey and Amy Poehler singing a song that sort of sounds like Bad Blood I guess and the lyrics are about how their entourage consists of nannies, Amy Schumer and a gynecologist. I understand that the joke here is to contrast Swift’s celebrity entourage from her music video with very mundane ordinary people but it doesn’t work because no one besides well-to-do Manhattanite mothers could possibly relate to their humblebrag of a joke. You know who doesn’t have personal assistants and live-in nannies? Most American mothers. And I’m saying this as someone who loves most of what Tina Fey and Amy Poehler have produced. Hey, you know what’s really “punk rock”? Being a controlled opposition propaganda asset for the CIA! Another anecdote which I think is relevant is a quote from Michaels in 2016 in which he said “We have our biases, we have our people we like better than others, but you can’t be Samantha Bee.” Really? Why not? Would that alienate potential advertisers or audiences? Or would it step on the toes of the intelligence agencies who you (most likely) take your marching orders from? Now, in fairness, I don’t have any concrete evidence that they take instructions from the CIA. But I do have rational inferences that anyone paying attention could come to!
>>221349594Because they're a weird fucked up cult and I'm telling everyone
>>221342563Girl you're a big unattractive black woman there's not much else for you.
>>221349604Shane Gillis is widely speculated to be connected to the intelligence agency. During his previous appearance hosting SNL, he performed a sketch which advertised cocaine as if it were a prescription drug. Hilarious! In the trailer for the documentary on Lorne Michaels, titled “LORNE”, Colin Jost jokes “I think he’s in the CIA” Haha, imagine! As if that could be true! How preposterous! What would the CIA want with a media disseminating apparatus like SNL?! They don’t try to influence populations through media! *cough* Operation Mockingbird *cough* As I have already established, the soft power of comedy is to deflate legitimate grievances by making them seem absurd. “Haha! Only a fool would think Lorne Michaels is connected to the CIA! You’re not a fool, are you?!”
>>221346890>I had to get it onok waingro
>>221349604>>221349632>>221349661Meds now
>>221349827Ladies and Gentlemen, once again, Playboy Manbaby!https://youtu.be/YoVQlyUuqEg?is=y5VaWQMOZtoaUgQm
>>221342563I have seen her asshole.
>>221342857How come no one was repeatedly cast as a jewish stereotype?
>>221350004Ahem!
>>221342563>Hiring a black lady to play a black ladyRAYCIS
>>221342563the only thing funny this nigger ever did was freak out over being trolled on twitter
>>221342563I always thought it was heard SNL hired a 50 year butt ugly 6’5 Patrick Ewing in a wig lookin black bitch into the cast what kind of weird DEI hire was that?
>>221342563Her whole shtick is "loudmouth insufferable cunt sheboon". What, did she expect to get calls about being the lead actress in romcoms? She typecast herself.
>>221350357Thought it was weird*I think Chris rock guilted Lorne into hiring her saying she been doing comedy for decades but nobody would hire her saying “this lady too funny to be stuck working at AT&T instead of doing comedy” what was Rock thinking? You’d think he’d have better taste or do black comedians just act like any comedian is black is funny
>>221342563Black people are the most self-loathing group on the planet, they bitch and moan that they're not included anywhere, but when included, don't like that they're a black character.
>>221349052They don't write every sketch they appear in, especially if they're a diversity hire, and Leslie's writing was mostly just standup bits on Weekend Update.>Tina Fey: Also, if Leslie Jones suddenly appears at the end of a sketch acting vaguely horny and angry at everyone, it means the writers couldn’t think of an ending.https://youtu.be/RHbXLcFYmzI?t=206
Its like a 50 year old fat white guy complaining he never gets cast as the hero that gets to fuck Margot Robbie in a movie.Skin color has nothing to do with it.
>>221342563to be fair to her and to play devil's advocate, being born with that kind of body as a woman but also be straight must suck. At least if she was gay she could probably find some hole to play with and be the bull dyke. But she wants a man, and I genuinely cannot think of even a broad type of man that would ever be sexually interested in her. God can be cruel.
>>221348428pretty cool song thanks, feels like playing Tony Hawk again.
>>221351104You know she got porn leaks right?
>>221351104When the fappening happened her nudes leaked and there was some white guy fucking her. And yes her body is just as bad as you would imagine. Whatever anon ruined that thread with those pictures deserves jail time for making me see those.
>>221351104>God can be cruel.god was not cruel to her. she was able to get famous as an unfunny australian aboriginal-looking nigger. her lack of self-awareness is profound. like imagine looking like her and thinking 'i gon be famous'. she somehow did it though and now she's still complaining. loud angry fat black woman was only ever going to be her only job.
>>221351279>And yes her body is just as bad as you would imagine.Some of the worst nudes I've seen. Makes you want Hope Solo
>>221342951I disagree. If one looks at Leslie Jones and expect her not to be a loud, retarded cunt, as did the executives in charge of SNL, then that's on them. This should shock nobody. My only relief from this is that at least she'll probably be further blacklisted.
>>221351104You srsly underestimate how men will stick their dick in anything.
>>221342563Weird that she's being bitchy now. She was actually one of the more fun members
>>221342786would
There's 172 posts itt and which is higher than snl's viewership.
>>221342563Her leaks were incredibly hard to jerk off to.
>>221352115>>221352115Every post represents 10,000 lurkers.
>>221342563>a retarded fugly sheboon was cast as better than she really isDAS RAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYSIS
>>221352106She was the only thing I liked about that shitty fucking Ghostbusters she was in. She can be legit funny as fuck if she gets the right script, her timing and delivery is great. Shame it gets wasted so much.
The biggest tv show in comedy is a death cult and the only reason comedians give them a pass is because they all dream of one day being on it. If that’s you, disavow yourself of that fantasy. Statistically speaking, you won’t be. Countless others thought the same thing. It’s not even the opportunity it used to be. Their alumni used to go on to be household names. Now they go on to do what they were doing before they were on the show (stand up, improv, etc) with a slightly larger audience. Their big pay off is starring in a commercial. If you got into comedy to become a corporate whore, there are easier paths to get there. They are actually pure evil. They’re a death cult corralling humanity to the end of civilization.
>>221348488only a retard would type out all that shit on a thread about harambe and expect anyone to read it. Therefore you're either an AI (which is generous) or to stupid to have an opinion worth reading
>>221352311Also she was one of the few female cast members who actually laughed. Every other girl right now is so tense they're unwatchable, especially that pale nepobaby cant even remember her fucking name
>dem white ass crackas finna suck my dick talmbout I'm LOUD talmbout FRIED CHICKEN talmbout WAFFLE HOUSE talmbout WERLSTAR and sheeeit. Damn I'm finna crash out over this muffukking GRAPE SODA DRANK talmbout WATERMELON bitch azz WATERMELON fr I've had it up to heeeeea with these lil ass white ass bustah ass cracker lacker SUCK MY TITS
>>221352622Gone to soon. Rip In Peace
>>221352664Jane Wickline, that's the cunt. Goddamn she's untalented
Man, what a hilarious character! It’s almost as if it was based on a real person! But who could it be?
>>221352894I dunno! Who can say?! Maybe it has something to do with this!
>>221350004What is Michael Lorne's real surname again? I forget.
>>221353091Lorne Michael I mean.
>>221353102It’s Long Michael
>>221342563she could do lots of cash with a Norbit remake
>>221352832i kinda like her in a shes so bad shes good kind of way, she always looks miserable all the time and sounds like shes about to cry because doesnt want to be there
>>221342563shes gotta be the all time ugliest person to ever become famous
>>221342563shes no Ellen Cleghorne!
>>221348589>one man actually taking action to challenge the system in a way that resonated with average peopleIt didn't. It "resonated" with Redditor psychopaths.
>>221353252All the stars are here!
>>221353361Nice job replying to a bot
>>221353252Probably one of the worse photos of her, she was cute. I don't think anyone would hesitate very long to pick Ellen over Leslie to fuck.
>>221342563I support her. Not because I believe her, even though modern liberals, Democrats and leftists are genuinely racist. I just want SNL to get cancelled, or, at the very least, be forced into a humiliation ritual.
>>221344249Don’t make me break my foot off in your ass!
>>221353429https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tESjwXZL8Vkshe was way funnier than Leslie Jones at doing the parody of the over the top sterotype black woman helped that she was a way better actor than Joneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3N6zqBP2Twi tried to find the Ricki Lake skit were she played every sterotypical black lady in the audience asking questions but she'd have a different wig on every time of course JewTube dont got it
I don't understand people like this. Just be a glad you got a sweet gig like that in the first place and then use it as leverage to get more work in the industry. You basically won the jackpot.
>>221353429https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tESjwXZL8Vkshe was way funnier than Leslie Jones at doing the parody of the over the top sterotype black woman helped that she was a way better actor than Joneshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3N6zqBP2Twi tried to find the Ricki Lake skit (with fuckin Jay Mohr as Ricki lmao) were she played every stereotypical black lady in the audience asking questions but she'd have a different wig on every time of course JewTube dont got it
>>221353466>>221353472lol damn i didnt mean to post that twice
>>221353472https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1vlI21K7wzMi liked her as the NBC page who always annoyed the hosts backstage and then threated to "cut them" when they brushed her off
>>221342563bust my crust
>>221350004Lovitz and Norah Dunn had that covered
>>221342786Stereotypes are just observable traits.There is nothing about her that doesn't scream ghetto welfare hog. The fuck did she think she was going to be cast as? A medieval European princess?
>>221351104>I genuinely cannot think of even a broad type of man that would ever be sexually interested in her. nigga, if there's a hole, there'll be a man who wants to stick his dick in it
>>221342563but she is a racist stereotype
>>221342563Who the fuck even watches SNL? Like is it played in retirement homes where the people have no control over the TV and the average age is 75?
>>221342563Did she ever contribute any sketch material?
>>221344771Goddamn that’s bad. Might be the worst fuckup I’ve ever seen on live tv
>>221344771>THE LOVELY NIA
