The guitar, it's a little stockHow do you respond?
>>221347970at least it's on time
>>221347970He's not a good drummer.He really isn't.And their success?You know what? A lot of is based off of me
>>221347970This is so boring on the second rewatch. Musicians are incredibly dull, narcissistic assholes.
>>221347970Same band that made Ride the Lightning btw
Lars Ullrich is the epitome of a mediocre musician being carried by a great band.Also Metallica is so overrated it's not even funny.
You should've been in Cliff's bunk.
>>221348000Trips of Trvke
>>221348082He was pretty good at developing a song in his prime
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>>221348082He’s the reason that you even know what Metallica is. There’s a reason he has the highest net worth out of all the members
>>221348082Metallica is the Bruce Lee of Heavy Metal. How good they are is irrelevant. They're the reason millions of people got into the genre and it's not close.Master of Puppets. This probably helped inspire so many metal bands to start.Enter Sandman. This probably caused so many guitarists to start playingFight Fire With Fire. Brutality in 1984.For Whom The Bell Tolls. Bass revolutionizedFade To Black. Who said Metal couldn't be sad?Creeping Death. Widely argued to be among the pioneers of the BreakdownOne. That Machine Gun riff.Nothing Else Matters. I mean, it's their biggest song, I can't argue with thatBattery. Opened one of the most important metal albums ever.Hit the Lights. Opened the album that kickstarted the Thrash arms raceI agree with the purists on Load/Reload being too long and diluted with filler and didn't like the rebrand or the move away from their metal roots but if the band had merged the best songs from each album into one album and purged the filler you would have Until it Sleeps/King Nothing/Bleeding Me/Fuel/Memory Remains/Unforgiven 2 on the same album which would have made it one of the best rock albums of all time. After this they basically sold out entirely and became a bunch of sober family men and the music suffered for it. Lars went on his napster kike campaign, Newstead got booted, St. Anger was trash. No Leaf Clover, Whiskey in The Jar, Turn The Page were decent tracks but not worth the price of the albums. Calling them overrated isn't fair. Calling them a disappointment might be.
>>221348392Shut up, Lars. Go back to the senior home.
>>221348082They were all mediocre except Kurt and Cliff and frankly Kurt wasn't elite, he just struck gold a few times. They owe their producers a lot of credit.
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>>221348400You know who’s a far superior band that did all of that but effectively? The movie with the gay guy who died of aids. What was it called? REO Speedwagon?
>>221347970Just play on rhythm, drum monkey.>>221348000Kind of true. Kill em all was a great metal album. It turned to prog metal after he left. Then it turned to butt rock when cliff died. It's been a steady decline in quality.
>>221348082Lars in his prime was a perfectly decent drummer that fit the Metallica sound perfectly. He was also legitimately great at composing songs (but admittedly completely retarded at mixing them) and he was directly responsible for like 5 of their best songs. Metallica is kino and I'm tired of pretending their not. They still put on great shows and record new music and actually try. Most bands just phone it in these days.
>>221348489Give me one example of Metallica sounding "prog". Just one. I'll wait.
>>221348491Their not what? Finish the sentence.
>>221348082Saw this the other day. I thought it was a pretty good comparison for how things have gone. https://youtube.com/shorts/8UDVGUYrE_E>>221348412Who the fuck is kurt?
>>2213479702nd most influential drummer after Ringo Star.
>>221348528I meant to say 'they're' but I'm phone posting while taking a poop and didn't double check my grammar
>>221348521Ride the lightning through and justice were all progressive. But since you asked, how about the very first song on their second album, you dumb fuck.
>>221348558Ahh, happens to me as well. Sometimes pushing makes me lose my train of thought and I just don’t reply.
>>221348521>Give me one example of Metallica sounding "prog"Holy shit, you're fucking stupid. https://youtu.be/3vSH9pMzHm0
>>221348000based and checked
>>221348572>>221348695Literally nothing prog about either of those two songs and you need your brain checked and a clout on the ear
I like these :)
>>221348715>Bolt ThrowerBased
>>221348521to live is to die
>>221348712You're wrong, you stupid faggot. It's certainly not straight metal so what would you call it, genre autist? There is a clear distinction between kill em all and all their other albums. Megadeth kept the same trajectory as kill em all so obviously dave was the creative force behind that album. I just can't believe any stupid retard would say call of ktulu wasn't progressive.
>>221348740Another good one. I'm not even complaining. I like their instrumentals. It's just that they're certainly progressive no matter what that retard's narrowly defined definition of progressive might be.
>>221348759It's not progressive it's MELODIC YOU FUCKING RETARD
>>221348805Adding melodies to metal is indeed progressing the genre, you smoothbrain fuck. Those are not metal songs. The difference between the pure metal of kill em all and the next three albums should be clear to anyone with working ears and a functioning brain. They progressed the genre of metal by adding those melodies. Dumb fucking retard.
>>221348832Kill em All was THRASH metal, all of their other good albums are simply metal. You are retarded.
>>221348884Wrong. They sound nothing like pantera or slayer or older metal like judas priest or iron maiden. You're a genre autist and you fucking disgust me. No one would listen to their instrumentals and think, "wow, now this is metal!" Your definitions are gay just like you.
>>221347970I would sue Napster
>>221348000Dave Mustaine was the better guitar player, and you can't convince me otherwise.
>>221347970you're saying this shit so you can get your point across about doing a drum beatit doesn't hold any water
>>221348084>>221348107
>>221349088This is absolutely true. Went and saw him live last year and it was the best sounding concert I've ever been to, guitar-wise. The dude has serious chops.
>>221348000I like Megadeth more than Metallica but this is bullshit and Dave has his head up his ass.
>>221349160Dave's sound was the foundation of the albums that made the band famous. He's inarguably one of the top 5 metal guitarists of all time and some people would have him number one.
>>221349224Dave the first two, cliff the next 2. It's ironic his name was cliff because that's what their creativity fell off when he died.
>>221348695>its prog because it has a long slow intro??? are you 11 years old or just very little exposure to music, perhaps?
>>221348715jesus christ metal album covers are so garish
>>221349334If you played that song to anyone dry, they would never peg it as metal. It's clearly progressive. Genre autists are such faggots.
>>221348832thats not what the "progressive" in progressive rock/metal means you fucking idiot. you really thought you had something here didn't you? so arrogant too even when you dont know what terms mean
>>221349357Progressive literally means progressing the genre bu adding outside influences. There are clear classical, among other, influences on their 2-4 albums. You aren't the genre arbiter. I'll call it whatever the fuck I want. You're a fucking fag.
Metallica fucking sucks.
>>221348521>Just oneone
>>221348489its all dad rock, it just depends on when (you) first started listening to them thats "the best"
>>221349088Dave is way better than Kirk but his leads fucking suck. He has one guitar solo that he has been playing since 1982. Riffs, writing, playing while singing it's not even close but Kirk was so much better in Metallica
>>221349515I like kill em all the most despite coming out 5 years before I was born. They weren't dad rock until the black album.
>>221349526I don't think so. Kirk solos don't have soul. They sound good but there's something superficial about them. Dave solos always feel like they're taking you on a journey and I appreciate that.
>>221349319For all the credit that James/Lars get for writing the songs, Dave/Cliff/Jason were the ones who really created the sound, and they're the ones who vetoed a lot of the stupid shit. Lars becoming the primary songwriter in the mid 90s fucking KILLED their sound. His favorite band was Deep Purple for totalkikedeath's sake.
>>221349526Correct. Dave's solos were terrible. One of the best riff writers of all time though.
>>221349538>when (you) first started listeningso....kill em all was when you first started listening, and in (you)r opinion, it wasnt dad rockspoilers: its dad rock. you just listened to...kill them all, first.
>>221350588The black album was the first album I ever bought. Guess again, einstein.
>>221350671>it was the first time i started listening to themyes thats literally my point
>>221350707Are you retarded? I said the black album was my introduction to the band.
>>221350819oh my bad, i dont listen to dad rock so i didnt know the difference
It's cool to hate Lars and totally justified. That doesn't make him wrong in this instance. It was stock.
After listening to Infectious Grooves, it's clear that Rob is under utilized as a bassist.
>>221350897His talent is completely wasted in Metallica, but he's getting paid
>>221347970I feel like I'm going crazy because nobody seems to know what I'm taking about but WHY did they change their guitar tone in the 90s to something twangier and decided to never changed it back?If you listen to something like Seattle 1989, their guitars sound fucking HUGE and extremely distorted. Pure metal. But then compare it to how their guitars sound today at any live show and it's just so odd sounding, like the guitars sound like they belong to some diet-hard rock band instead of metal and I hate how it sounds on the thrashy songs.
>>221348521The timing on Master of Puppets' verse riff is one of the prog-est things they've done.
>>221348000So you've only written 3 good songs in your entire life?
>>221351519i mean thats 3 more then you, so sure
>>221347970Is pic related accurate?
>>221348082he's as much their marketer/promoter as he is their drummer. the band has benefitted from him not being afraid to be an asshole to get what he wants.
>>221353065replace megadeth with testament
kek @ the prog bait nigga
Pepper was the best part about this movie.
>>221348082They're the backstreet boys of metal, thats about it. Started genuine, but turned very Corporate, very fast.
>>221348521Eye Of The Beholder is pretty prog. Lots of different time signatures with the riffs and the beat.Which is why Lars won't play it live because it's too complicated for him.
>>221350897Rob honestly doesn't fit stylistically with the band but at the same time he's like Kirk where he lacks a big ego which is perfect since Lars and James have enough of that already.
>>221347970>MY LIFE STYLE>DETERMINES MY DEATH STYLEthen peel out of the parking lot on my chopped hog (no helmet btw)
>>221347970have you seen james's little routine when he plays live these days, he goes to his little cuck corner, puffs on a cigar and drinks some apple juice before he's ready to go again don't do drugs kids funny doco though
>>221348000Dave would be much more respected if he just shut his damn mouth. Amazing guitarist, underrated songwriter, but he's got a bigger ego than Lars and James combined.
>>221353682Well yeah, Lars and James stole the idea of having a big ego from Dave, they would never have that without me
>>221348082Completely falseWatch any behind the scenes videos, he's producing a lot of the songs, he's not writing the riffs or lyrics but he's telling the others what sounds good, how to play it etc
>>221348400St Anger is a banger and I'm tired of pretending its not.>inb4 no snares. Lars is quite basic on the drums
>>221348082>Also Metallica is so overrated it's not even funny.Babby's first hot take.
>>221354297>hes the idea manwow
>>221348082Metallica is a good but not great band carried by Lars being an insanely good business man. Even when they were first starting out in the early 80s they were the clear most popular metal band in the bay area and that wasn't because they were the best, it was because Lars was circulating demo tapes all over the place. They already had a huge underground following before Kill Em All even came out. Lars kept at it too, he was the one who picked Bob Rock and pushed for Enter Sandman to be the lead single for the black album. He's the biggest reason why they're as big as they are and it's not due to his talent on the drums, it's his talent in making deals.
>>221354392He's literally the brains behind making Metallica a global juggernaut of branding/merchandise. He 10x'd everyone's paychecks with his savvy
>>221354693Great.. He's the Donald Trump of metal.
>>221347970I'd smash the guitar over his head then do this:>>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7NEqkOeVFtA
>>221348572It only sounds progressive because of the glut of shit thrash metal
>>221354693>>221354710Lars being no pushover definitely helped them stand out among the sea of dumbshits that was the metal scene
>>221354297He actually wrote a lot of the riffs
Unironically the best metallica album btw
>>221356133forgot pic dammit
>>221347970I can't stand james, kirk, and lars.>>221348000I can't stand dave either but he's right.
>>221349319>Dave the first two, cliff the next 2>enter bob rock>enter james and kirk moping for 30 years
>>221356133>>221356152kek>>221354710>>221354693translation: James and Kirk are spineless and brainless fools who let Lars control everything even though he's completely talentless other than his tenacity and obnoxiousness.
>>221354308my tik style determines my tok style
>>221347970never heard a metallica song all they way through in my life but i fucking love this doc, it's one of the funniest things i've ever seen
>>221353065Anthrax fucking suck, I'll never understand why they kept getting lumped together with the other three
>>221357303>never heard a metallica song all they way through in my lifethat's impossible unless you're deaf
>>221353177replace metallica with Testamentreplace megadeth with Exodusreplace anthrax with Forbiddenreplace slayer with SlayerToss in Morbid Saint, Coroner, Pestilence.
Metallica are the mopiest whiniest dudes ever other than Robert Trujillo who seems like a cool dude. If I could be in a band with any of those guitar players it would be Gary Holt and Alex Scholnik the coolest of dudes I've met both.
>>221357548>>221353177Testament is the most soulless "big" thrash band. Everything they did feels calculated and BORING. Dark Angel all the way.
>>221357768I liek both. Gene is the man.
>>221357243>kekNigga I wasn't kidding. I genuinely thought listening to it was an interesting experience. Maybe it's just because I like schizo music.I also listened to it because I loved the Lulu silent film (Pandora's Box) so I went into it with a completely different mindset than a Metralica fan or even a Lou Reed fan would. It works very well as a companion piece to that movie
>>221348082No, go listen to their first records, he doesn't even qualify as mediocre.
>>221348000Lars is a trust fund kid, his dad was an all-star tennis player
>>221355199Except Lars never let Metallica go bankrupt multiple times
>>221348546He’s talking about Kurt Cobain, he was in Metallica before he started Nirvana
>>221349088Every musician in the world agrees with you.
>>221357915Why is the can unopened
>>221348491>>221354297Lars has always been more of a music fan than a musician. He was a roadie for NWOBHM bands and mostly thanks to his rich dad had a huge record collection. So he developed a music fans ear for what sounds good and what does not. In later years I think he kinda disappeared up his own arse though with his big ego.
>>221348000dave is a jew
coming from a barely competent drummer that's a complimentwhat do you mean you're going to edit me out of the show?
posting this before reading the thread but:I saw Metallica perform live, and watching Lars hyped me up. He typically looks like he's enjoying what he's doing, which can be infectious and matter more than technicality. Almost every song he'd finish the finally beat and immediately stand up, fist-pump the air, and I could see him mouthing "FUCK YEAH!!"^that version of Lars is a cool dude
>>221358473He unironically is. His mom was jewish.>OY VEY EVERY METALLICA RIFF WAS PROMISED TO ME 3000 YEARS AGO!
They're both right. Both drums and guitars sounded like shit.
>>221348715>bunch of shitty albums from shitty bands that no one cares
>>221357442Because they're literally the ones that pushed the Big 4 thing to begin with and just so happened to put themselves there.
>>221357707Too bad Scholnik's a raging lefty.
>>221357442Among the Living is a great album... one great album is more than most bands manage. But yes, the rest sucks
>>221359186I thought their first album was pretty good.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f0AkbOBAngw
>>221348364lel
>>221357442>I'll never understand why they kept getting lumped together with the other threeAre you a legit moron? They were much more popular and had sold much more albums than fucking Slayer by basically the end of US Thrash Metal in 1991.How it's possible for someone to not understand that simple concept is unbelievable.
>>221349425lmaohttps://youtu.be/ruG-2rj1chA?si=OolNeNPd6RxGj7H8
>>221356152TO BE DRY AND SPERMLESSLIKE A GUUUUUURL
dooood napster
>>221360555NAPSTER BAAAAAD
>"Delete that."
>>221360617luckily this faggot never knew about soulseek
Somewhere Dave Mustaine is still angry, God bless him
>>221360555even the he was a dick he wasn't wrong no musician nowadays makes money by selling music
>>221360687spotify gives plenty.
>>221360733
>>221347970>He felt like he wasn't free enough to do what he needed to do. Since he wasn't getting his creativity out enough in Metallica, he needed to get it out somewhere else. And I totally understand that now. And... my side of that was… I didn't want him to enjoy that more than Metallica. I didn't want anyone to leave Metallica. I didn't want to feel that we weren't enough or something like that. And it was through my… I guess the way I learned how to love things was just to choke them to death, you know? "Don't go anywhere. Don't leave. You have to stay here."
>>221347970I'm glad it's in stock.
>>221347970I'D FOCKING LEAVE THE BAND.
metallica fucking suck and lars is a cunt
>>221348400S&M is a masterpiece.
>>221362007
FRAN TIC TIC TIC TIC TIC TIC TOCK!!!!>pots and pans banging together THIS SEARCH GOES ONTHIS SEARCH GOES ON
>>221357768>>221357548With that said, I will say that Overkill is the only Thrash Metal band that has consistently put out GREAT albums. Overkill > Megadeth > Slayer> Metallical>Exodus >Dark Angel>Anthrax >>>>Testament>Forbidden
>>221348400>Fuel/Memory RemainsThose are two of their worst songs right up there with the entirety of St. Anger.>Newstead got bootedNewsted was as good at playing bass as Lars was at playing drums: pure dogshit. They hired a guy with zero musical talent and creativity, so Cliff's playing wouldn't be overshadowed by someone that could actually play. Watch the bass solo on Binge and Purge. I'm not a fan of that beanigger they got to replace Jason, but at least that faggot can play.>>221358227>sensible_chuckle.xls
>My lifestyle... determines my deathstyle?
>>221347970With the truth, you have been playing the same drum line since 1991
>>221347970Shut up and drum, talentless hack.
>>221347970the good part about him is that he at least was noble enough to try to end with a little dignity with Dyers Eve before proceeding to be the shittiest live drummer in metal
>>221362090>no Pulling Teeth>no Fade to Black>no To Live is to Die>none of the other actually good songs that would've been enhanced with an orchestra>mostly Load/ReLoad shit"No!"
>>221348082this is such a faggot reddditor parroted linelars has always been fucking great, he essentially invented modern metal drumming, not to mention his part in arranging and producing the vast majority of their catalogyou fuckin copycat no nothing dipshit
>this is such a faggot reddditor parroted line lars has always been fucking great, he essentially invented modern metal drumming, not to mention his part in arranging and producing the vast majority of their catalog you fuckin copycat no nothing dipshit
>>221347970"Well your drums sound like fucking trash cans, midget."
why can't it start there on go THAT??
>>221363401>he essentially invented modern metal drummingThat was Philthy Animal Taylor, thoughever.
>>221354205funny post anon
>>221360423
Limp Bizkit is a better lyricist...
>>221347996Lmao
>>221362763A daring, but commendable synthesis.
>>221354308Hetfield was great in St. Anger. Makes me mad that Lars sandbagged what would've really been their best song in years>Fuck it all and fucking no regrets, I hit the lights on these dark sets>Put down your noose, I'll hang myself>St. Anger 'round my neck
>>221348082when i listen to lars ulrich play the drums i hear someone who completely mastered the instrument and is now messing up in the most specific ways that only other drummers could know they are being fucked withmorse code bants if you will
