Does he even have shit for me to beg to eat?

>>221368980
does is superfluous

>>221369001
no but he does have a nice blue dick for you to suck
seriously though imagine being silk spectre and actually fucking and sucking this blue monster everyday

Recently finished the comic, is the movie worth watching at all?

>>221369165
Yeah. Avoid the series.

Ligma

>>221369165
just watch the cartoon instead
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDDHHrt6l4w

>>221368980
>and yet here you are, talking to me

>>221368980
I reach for the remote, just as he did.
Reminder: Adrian was entirely right and is the hero of the story.

>>221368980
You don't have to respond to something like that. A naked homeless man having a rant about existence is just background noise nothing more.

>>221369183
>can see the future
>doesn't know who steve jobs is
applebros?

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>>221368980
>>221369250
>why are you talking to me?
to warn you of my next actions.
>why warn me? is that compassion?
you were kind to me before.
>is showing empathy not uniquely human?


beats the manhattan jew every time

>>221369370
if empathy is uniquely human than why do dolphins sometimes rescue drowning humans?

>>221369281
>Reminder: Adrian was entirely right and is the hero of the story.
The troubles in the movie were caused by Adrian. There was never going to be a nuclear war, the only reason people thought there were was from Manhattan being unable to see past a certain point in time, but this was because of Veidt sending tachyons through time. You also know he was wrong, as in real life there was no nuclear war, and the Soviet Union collapses. On top of this, after causing all the destruction in the most prime real estates all round the world, who gets all the rebuilding contracts? If you think he was the good guy, you fell for his trick.

>>221369393
why do they also sometimes rape them to death?
really makes ya think

>>221369413
next you will tell us that God doesn't save kids with cancer

>>221368980
why didn't ozy zap himself and reform with his 500 IQ to become dr manhattan 2?

>>221369393
how the fuck is a dolphin going to save the scenario in the OP's image??

>>221368980
>Yeah, whatever fag.

>>221369436
who are you quoting?
dolphins rape humans. thats factual.

>>221369566
Tits or gtfo dolfag.

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>>221369613
meds

>>221368980
I'd smile and suggest that I should probably start taking the fight seriously while proceeding to inform him that I've only been using 1% of my power.

>>221368980
Don't care. Still won.

It was a pretty dumb plan. He had no reason to assume Manhattan couldn't come back from that shit. The dude deconstructs and reconstructs himself all the time just to teleport around. The big brain move was to manipulate him into just leaving earth which he kind of did but why he bothered with the disintegration plan on top of that is anyone's guess.

>>221368980
I burp and fart loudly and then laugh about it

>>221369370
>Manhatten killed Rorschach for threatening to tell the truth
>but not Ozymandias for actually doing the act
I feel like this is a plot hole for every character who knew. They would absolutely kill the guy on general principle.

If you're so smart, how come this lowly civil servant just caught you?

>>221370735
It arguably could have worked if you consider that the same event is what created Dr. Manhattan. If anything could do it, that would be it.

>>221369474
they could cause a flood then swoop in in a big pack and get ozy out of there

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>>221370784
>>but not Ozymandias for actually doing the act
Dr M knew about R's journal and wanted to Ozy gay boi witness his own failure.

>>221370864
If that was true, he wouldn't have killed Rorschach in the first place.

>>221369401
>real life
Mathattan himself upsets the balance of power. Stop posting this braindead take.

>>221369165
no. Avoid it, watch series instead

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>>221370878
Well, Walter asked him to do it.

>>221368980
>"I do not threaten you, but you seem very invested in this little hill of termites"

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>>221370937
>no. Avoid it, watch series instead
lol

>>221370957
People always suggest Veidt failed and his plan won't work. This page is actually why I argue it will work for, decades at least. Cause if within weeks or months it was going to wear off, why kill Rorschach? Dr.Manhattan believed in it enough for the life time of his friends to kill this man over it. Now. "nothing ends" as the peace of WWII still had consequences and changes 40 years later. That's why I think for a good 40 years, till Ozy is in his 80's or 90's or died, the peace lasts, but Dr.Manhattan will far out live that. Worth it for the 40 years perhaps. Another generation will have to pick up the pieces.

>>221369165
Yes, because of it's ending. It's miles better than the comic.
In the movie, all efforts from Ozy is to make it seem like Manhattan nuked all cities, there's no alien shit.
It actually makes a lot more sense for everyone.

>>221370919
We know from real life that the soviet union collapsed. The nukes didn't disappear with them. The US was the only superpower for at least 2 decades, and still no nukes were launched, despite those being the only equalizer for post soviet Russia. Dr. Manhattan accelerates the rise of the US, which we know was not a path to nuclear war.

That said, the characters in the story don't know this. They can only react to what is happening. Ozymandias reacted by using Manhattan's powers to bomb various cities and unite the world. So from that perspective, Manhattan existing is what lead to the quantum holocaust happening. Just not directly. It is ultimately the fault of Ozymandias. He could have done nothing and nothing would have happened.

>>221370957
I always wonder why him doing that to people left behind a bunch of blood and shit. Like why doesn't he just disintegrate them completely?

>>221370997
Does the comic not include the part at the end where the journal makes it to the reporters?

>>221370997
By your own logic no, it will not work for more than 2 weeks.
IF YOU THINK, that Manhattan believes killing Rorscharch is worth it because his sole word pose a threat to the plan, then the plan is feeble as fuck.
If the plan can be toppled by one man then the plan is already on the edge.
And the ending shows Rorscharch words getting out doing the investigative work 90% up to the truth.

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>>221370997
> why kill Rorschach?

It wasn't the right time to reveal the truth. R probably also knew that but he also knew his autism prevented him to wait. That' s why he damanded an execution. He just couldn't live in a lie.

>>221371046
it makes it to a burger eating incompetent person, not exactly a capable reporter.
>>221371052
Rorschach is exactly the one man that could lead down the path to the truth getting out. It certainly would take more scrutiny than a couple weeks. Rorachach arguably actually believed in the plan which is why he plead for his death, though it could be argued he was too stupid to just keep his mouth shut. Then though it means Dr.Manhattan believed in it as well. It gives Nite Owl 2 a happy ending, till another tell all book comes out and someone comes to beat him to death when he is an old man. It very much is a story about generational cycles.

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>>221371036
>I always wonder why him doing that to people left behind a bunch of blood and shit. Like why doesn't he just disintegrate them completely?

This is so tiresome. No wonder Dr M left.

I killed your wife and best friend with cancer, you couldn't protect the ones closest to you
how am I not a thread, idiot?

>>221369165
I tried not that long ago. Pure garbage.

>Bubastes 2.0, gettim!

>>221369165
The movie is mediocre. It has some kino momennts, though.
https://youtu.be/FaK0m9Itr8s?t=116

>>221368980
>at least I'm not a libtard soiboy beta cuck

up and atom

>>221371292
up and AT THEM

>>221370997
It's wild that you have to explain this. It's like spoonfeeding it to little toddlers with no reading comprehension. "But he said nothing ever ends! That means Veidt failed!" Is something that would make me stop and stare at the person questioning if they were an actual moron or making some lame joke.

>>221369165
Yes. The directors cut is the best version. Theatrical is too short. Long one is too long.

>>221371150
>Rorschach is exactly the one man that could lead down the path to the truth getting out
His word did get out why do you insist on memoryholing the ending as if it never happened

>>221371150
>it makes it to a burger eating incompetent person, not exactly a capable reporter.
why make the last panels of the entire comic the guy reaching for rorschach's journal if it was a meaningless event that lead to nothing? don't be silly.

>>221370735
> why he bothered with the disintegration plan on top of that is anyone's guess.
He wanted to buy time so he could show Dr M the political reaction to Big Squid and then start bargaining

>>221368980
But he got trolled hard by the world smartest man so he's wrong

>>221371407
>the idiot who finds the journal will know what do with it
>>221371313
People really are stupid. Veidt is named after Ramses II. Who reigned for some 70 years and still did enough for Egypt to be prosperous for another 300 years till the Greeks and Romans rose to power. The literal nature is embarrassing. So many people get an idea of what they want the ending to be and ignore character agency and purpose. People want Veidt to be a villain that is defeated, but the stronger point is that his power has limits. Despite all he can do, he cannot shape a world he doesn't live in. A statue can out last a man, but not guide a people.

>>221370957
Why do comicfags complain about the movie? Other than muh squid, it's literally a panel by panel adaptation.

>>221370784
> They would absolutely kill the guy on general principle.
Yeah Ozys argument is about not revealing what he has already done for a change at peace but there is no good argument for leaving him alive and free. Killing him and teleporting him back to his NYC office helps the coverup if anything

>>221371470
How quickly do you think the information in the journal was spread and how easily did people believe it?

>>221368980
>How is it you can see the future but were so easily fooled by some faggot playing dress up

>>221371470
Not him but the reason from a literary perspective is to leave the ending slightly open to reader interpretation and leave the reader thinking whether the general public will believe the peak human charming Ozy story presented to them via mainstream media or the story presented to them via a ragged and fringe cheap publisher. It lets the Ozy vs Rosch themes and perspectives gel in your thoughts and self reflect on what you think.
If Moore's intention was to give a definite it success or doesn't he wouldn't have ended on him reaching for the journal and just jumped to a page of the newspaper publishing it and people's reaction reading it.

>>221371539
>>221371520
I love how at the same time you believe Rorschach's lunatic words are worthy of taking down the master plan, but at the same time not believing the only paper that Rorschach vouched for, readed, and ultimately trusted his words to is not worthy.
I love how your brain twists like testicular torsion to accomodate both facts.

>>221368980
I'd interrupt him in the middle of his monologing to say I don't care. Fuck he'd be so mad.

>>221371591
>Can you say that again? I wasn't listening
It's another form of the same path

>>221371046
You'd still need to prove that stuff.
You're probably safe until another Rorschach or more likely Manhattan like character comes around.
>>221371407
>>221371470
It's not silly or meaningless, but it's only a start. Truth will live on in some form until it reaches the right people.

>>221371543
That's the best part, he doesn't get fooled at all. It's explicitly stated during the conversation with rorshach that he chooses to let it happen, even killing rorshach to make sure it does because he knows he will stop it.

>>221370997
The problem with this logic is your assuming Dr Manhattan relenting to Veidt's plan is proof of it's efficacy.
But it's not proof because Manhattan is a retard.
He's genuinely fucking stupid. He fails to predict numerous things. His ending of traveling the stars could have been the result of valid insight, but it's really just a furthering of his previous time on Mars where he was simply overwhelmed, upset, confused and frustrated with other people that he couldn't control or understand, so he just ran away. So his quest to make life is actually him trying to recreate people except this time in a form that he can control and understand.
He really lacked understanding of how people worked, his predictions were obviously deficient and not simply a process of "seeing the future".
In the confrontation with Veidt, Manhattan demonstrates his abilities most by 'not dying' and 'growing big'. That's what he's good at: physical things, like exterminating gooks. But he is not a thinker.
Shit, he can't even predict his own behaviour.

Keeping in mind that Veidt, an ant with a God-complex, managed to trick Manhattan so completely, the ending of Watchmen is supposed to be taken at face value: Manhattan, like Veidt, is not a god (superhero). He's just a stupid human.

I wonder what it'd be like, being a super-genius termite with 1000 IQ. Could you influence the world of men?

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>>221371525
>Why do comicfags complain about the movie? Other than muh squid, it's literally a panel by panel adaptation.

Where is the raging dyke in the movie, pleb? The feel of dread on NY street? And Dr M instead of a monster? Huge stupidity worthy of a shabbos goy zack.

>>221371619
>Can see the future
>Was clearly fooled
>"I was only pretending to be retarded"

>>221371608
>but it's only a start.
My point is that is not a start. It's 90% Rorschach's path. It literally ends with "I'm going to antartica to confirm all this I'm saying", his journal is all the pieces, already put together, and the only thing that remains is looking at the final image to see what you get.
AND it's about the most important man in the country
Imagine a journal dropping hints about Elon Musk being an alien, with 90% of the breadcrums there
It will get posted and it will get noted
But it's ok if you think it will not, your testicular torsion brain may not allow you to extrapolate simple, realistic and entirely plausible courses of action

>>221371622
>Manhattan, like Veidt, is not a god
Fo do you really need to get to the end of the comic to formulate that take

>>221371525
>rorschach fighting a karate explosion after jumping from moloch's window
>rorschach simply vanishing from blake's window while a cop is staring directly at him
>characters who were never in the series
>dialog which was never in the series
This is to say nothing of the fact that changing the villain undermines Veidt's plot entirely and makes it nonsensical. It is a remarkably bad film.

>>221371576
Two things can be true at once and you struggling with that elicits none of the love you seem to be feeling over my comments.

Nite Owl 2 and Silk Spectre 2 go into hiding after the events. Rorschach is such a person capable of finding them, but cannot do so if dead. Witnesses carry significantly more weight than written word. Which by the way, is the entire reason The Comedian is killed. The end of the story who Rorschach has trusted is shown to have changed. He is fully rejected his peers and even nearly by his own admission doesn't trust himself to keep the secret he potentially actually agrees with, because he is such an objectivist the truth will be prioritized to him over his opinions.

The person at the news paper is quite clearly shown to not be trust worthy, but for some reason you think he is. The conspiracy of the truth will live on, but to what degree the world believes it? They saw aliens and mass death, and that is going to come off as more concrete than a journal. Most of the world will buy Veidts lie. That's what I am saying, but you really don't get that.

>>221371653
If he was fooled then why did he kill Rorschach? The entire argument between them was about Manhatten doing nothing and Rorschach going to expose the plan and stop it from happening.

>>221371712
>Kill Rorschach
>But leave his journal
>That exposes the plan

>>221371525
People are unable to accept improvements in media because it's seen as unearned entitlement
I'm split about it
On one hand I like the concept of the media being like it is, with it's flaws, it doesn't need to be perfect and it's kinda an insult to the author that you use his work 95% of the way, and change a bad thing he did and improve it and call it "your version". That wouldn't fly in anything, not only in art. You are worse than youtube leeches at that point, you are not building upon the art, you are taking art that is mostly perfect, adjusting a loose screw and calling it perfect and I hate people that do that.
On the other hand if I don't know the author I get to enjoy a 100% better piece

>>221369165
Alan Moore is a hack and the adaptations are better than the comics 100% of the time.

>>221371567
People are fully ignoring the last page's content outside of the delivery of the journal. The entire point of that last page is this Editor man mocks the fat guy for thinking Ronald Reagan has a chance in politics. It's denial of a truth the audience knows. We all know Reagan became president in our timeline. That's the attitude of the world, a rejection of the future. The journal will likely be treated the same way, it contains the truth and it's inevitable it will reach people, but it will face rejection along the way. How long that takes is certainly open to debate.

>>221371286
kek

>>221371686
What I don't get is why you make shit up.
>Nite Owl 2 and Silk Spectre 2 go into hiding after the events. Rorschach is such a person capable of finding them, but cannot do so if dead.
You are making shit up. This doesn't exist, it's only in your mind, it's not on the comic nor in the movie. It's in your mind.
Nowhere near the comic nor the movie shows Rorschach taking Owl or SS as "proof" or something like you imply.
Both literally show Rorschach walking alone away from them, like his word is enough.
It is implied that his word is enough with this.
>is quite clearly shown to not be trust worthy, but for some reason you think he is
RORSCHARCH HIMSELF thought the paper was worthy. Not the individual person, but the paper as a whole (which includes the staff) and the proclivity to give voice to conspiracies or shit Rorschach deemed important.
That is the crux of my argument. Both things I'm stating are supported by both the comic and the movie. You, are making shit up.
Well maybe I'm also making shit up, but I think I have more claims to be correct than you, which are fully making shit up with shit not backed up

>>221371767
>We all know Reagan became president in our timeline, therefore it will become president in that timeline, and they are rejecting that future I made up for them
??

>>221371767
>Ronald Reagan
It's Robert Redford. Robert Redford was an actor who was famous for several movie thrillers about a normal guy stumbling upon a secret conspiracy he unravels

>story has an invincible omnipotent hero who would actually make all other heroes obsolete and would have the power to eradicate all crime instantly
>instead he does nothing and the world carries on as normal
So basically Watchmen is just a boring pretentious version of One-Punch Man?

>>221371813
>you are making shit up. This doesn't exist, it's only in your mind, it's not on the comic nor in the movie
lol, ok dude. No Blonde hair ending in watchmen, got it.
Are we back to Rorschach isn't good at anything too?
>RORSCHARCH HIMSELF thought the paper was worthy.
and he thought his friends were too, he was shown to be wrong. Why is his relationship with this newspaper better than his friends?

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>>221371821
>lines have no meaning and media and should be ignored.

>>221368980
The scale of events does not objectively determine their value. I don't give a shit how big or small the events you witnessed were.

Watchmen is the logical endpoint of authors and editorials trying to "humanize" characters and shoehorn them into contemporary politics as much as they can to be "more sociopolitically aware". At some point, the fictional concepts clash so hard with the realism that it either defeats the point of any actual substance in the commentary or is so shallow it just serves only as a vague window dressing for the heroes to carry the plot to points they can play superheroes. Anime is the latter, Big 2 comics are the former, especially X-Men. Fuck I hate X-Men's political commentary.

>>221371844
>Why is his relationship with this newspaper better than his friends?
Because both the scene of the journal and Manhattan's claim that nothing ever ends, both are tipped on the scale on the side of the plan not working.
Both men that could stop the plan, Manhattan and Rorschach, are out of the picture, but the comic doesn't stop there, with Manhattan leaving and Rorschach just dying and that's it.
It goes ooooout of it's way, to show that both men that could stop the plan, their actions are still in place.
Manhattan can change it's mind, and Rorschach journal with 90% of the puzzle is out and found.
This are not extrapolation this is explicitly shown. You just like to not think about it or memoryhole it or discount it as "ah don't worry about that, it's going nowhere!"
But it is there deliberately

>>221371914
Manhattan is assessing his own intellectual value to compared to Ozy's, who is just a normal flesh and blood being despite his vast intellect. It is objectively true that Manhattan is inherently more intellectually valuable simply due to the nature of his newfound being being able to perceive and manipulate time and matter.

>>221371822
No, anon, that's a retarded invention of the tv series. The comic ends with a reference to Reagan's presidential run

>>221371627
A termite with 1000 IQ is meaningless because it can only ever work under its limitations as a termite.

>>221371914
>determine their value
But he's determining his own value anon, not the value of the events
He is not saying the events were valuable, as a matter of fact, he is even saying the event may as well never occurred
But he is saying that, even then, is was able to see them

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>>221371972
Holy kek this retard hasn't even read Watchman
Argument over people. This retard is basing all his theories and ideas off wiki posts or reddit ideas

>>221371998
If the termite with 1000 IQ is a termite queen her limitation as termite is now controlling a billion termites
I don't have 1000 IQ but if I retard like me can come up with the plan of making a million termites bite all the cables of the nuclear silos to disable them I would guess a 1000 IQ termite can come up with that as well
>Do what I say or I disable all your nuclear weapons and give your enemies the edge
is pretty compelling

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>>221369131
>Mutt's law


Ameripigs need to be ip banned

>>221369165
Yes. It's one of the better comic book adaptations despite the cut out parts and changes. Many people don't like it because Watchmen has massive reverence tied to it.

>>221372030
Termites are not a hivemind. Termite queens are also killed and eaten if a colony senses food insecurity or if the queen has aged past its prime birthing years. Objectively assess what the most possible thing you can do inside a termite body, expending most of your energy chewing up wood and cellulose. You can't write too because your main prehensile limb are your pincers. What do you even choose to write? How will the other termites feel about that?

>>221371972
>>221372016
>anon lecturing about the correct way to interpret the comic and claiming to understand the comic better than others has never read the comic
A tale as old as time

Is Manhattan the ultimate KWAB?
Imagine being a literal God and getting cucked by a human

>>221372082
It's very fine that you are able to think like a 0 IQ termite, but that's kinda not the discussion here

>>221368980
I had SEX with your dad

>>221372124
Manhattan exists in being cucked and not cucked simultaneously.

Manhatten realizes humans are worth saving because a stuck up, self centered, homewrecking, cheating slut was birthed out of a joker raping a whore

> world’s smartest man leaves list of people he gave cancer to lying around even though all targets have had it successfully induced and list serves no purpose
BRAVO MOORE

>>221369165
Watch the 2 part animation instead

>>221373858
Well, he knew that no one would guess his top secret unbreakable password that is so tough he needed to leave hints in books within eye sight around his computer so he can remember it

>>221373858
He knows they will find out eventually but by then the war will have been avoided and both sides realize there is shit out there waiting to kill us
It’s like 9/11 but for the world

>>221371016
The comic wasn't real life.

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>>221369242
>lives rent-free in my head since I first saw it

>>221374005
>da jews
ok bro

>>221373958
No, he wants complete secrecy of plans before and after he squids out. The cancer list being there for the Comedian to find is stupid and inexcusable

>>221369131
what happens when manhattan cums? the semen?

>>221368980
nice cock bro

>>221368980
"And yet here you are, wasting your words on me."

>>221368980
You're a spectator, not a god, Doctor.

>>221374714
Who says he even cums?

>>221374631
No he clearly intends on it being slowly leaked.
In his mind by the time the world finds out he thinks unity will happen and they’ll view him as a savior
There’s lots of little stuff and threads he lets stay loose
He didn’t kill sally or owl man either

He knows eventually it will all come out and they’ll either unify to kill him or unify to worship him

Dc did doomsday clock which actually was pretty good and altered dc all together. It’s Alan moores kind of dream
The Omni, meta, multi prime and polarity universes

Doomsday clock and absolute Batman

>>221374947
Silk Spectre would be ragging on him all the time if he didn't. She was insatiable with lust and demanded his full attention during love making. She'd be screaming and throwing a tantrum if he could never climax and cum all over and in her filling her until she's overflowing with glowing blue semen

>>221369165
its good dont listen to these retards

>>221375064
Don't women prefer it when men just don't cum?

>>221375054
> No he clearly intends on it being slowly leaked.
In his mind by the time the world finds out he thinks unity will happen and they’ll view him as a savior
No evidence of this whatsoever in the text. He does plan to take a big role in new world but not for anyone to have suspicions about him killing three million people

>>221375083
No, they get pissed off. Like it's an insult or your fault for not cumming. It's certainly not their fault for just laying there doing the bare minimum. And if it keeps going on too long they get annoyed and say cum already.

>>221375083
I had a bitch bring up me not nutting once months later when we broke up. Bitches keep a list in their head of shit and check it twice daily.

>>221374607
shalom.

>>221369131
... and still not being satisfied

>>221374607
dont you have some babies to rape and foreskins to eat?

>>221369165
Yes, unironically.

>>221370957
So sad that Rorschach died of ligma.

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>>221374607
Noice cameo, bro.

Did Alan Moore suffer from NDS (Nixon Derangement Syndrome)?

>>221374714
>what happens when manhattan cums?
She sees an event so tiny and so fast that it could hardly be said to have occurred at all

>>221368980
But would a man want termites in his sock? No? Then that is what I will be for you.

>>221369165
The movie is what would happen if you let a high school freshman who’s an emo and fan of Linkin Park direct an adaption. Take that as you will

>>221371003
>It actually makes a lot more sense for everyone
It’s the complete opposite. Ignoring how the movie ending completely buttfucks the whole point of the book and the themes and all that gay shit it logistically doesn’t make any sense because if tensions were that high between the US and Soviets and a US asset blew up the Kremlin the Soviets would’ve unloaded all their nukes. Wouldn’t have mattered New York got Manhattan’s, New York isn’t Washington DC and the country could still run fine without New York. Soviets would’ve assumed it was an American ploy to destroy the USSR which means the whole world gets nuked.

>>221374607
>>da jews
many are saying this

>>221369131
Thanks rabbi

>>221368980
Blue man group please magically make my PP bigger

>>221375503
Who’s Rorschach?

>>221368980
if he's so cool and sunwalking, whats he doing hanging out on earth?

>>221369242
I really, really hate the movie for a lot of reasons but for some reason the thing I hate most about the movie is the fact they’re literally called “the Watchmen”. I know it’s autism but still grinds my gears

>>221368980
>can travel through time
>can build structures out of atoms with a thought
>able to travel huge distances in an instant
>outsmarted by some timey-wimey particles
This is the Superman problem, just because they're immensely powerful in almost all areas it doesn't mean they're immensely smart.

>>221376615
He can't time-travel, he just sees every event of his past and future self at the same time, unable to change any of it.

>>221368980
> i wouldn't say anything I would listen , which was what nobody did
What else can you do?

>>221369165
No. Watch the series instead

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>>221370735
The plan was never about "stopping" him.
It was about fogging up his prescience AND taking him off the board long enough for the squid to get teleported into new york.

>>221376615
Anon he always had a blind spot around the plan.
He doesn't notice the pieces coming together because he's detached and doesn't care about humanity.
He has always known that at a point in the future he goes from being tired of humanity, then it all goes to static, and then it picks up with him fucking off into the universe with a renewed sense of purpose.
He assumes humanity just destroys itself.
All of the self discovery about the miracle of life happens during the static period.

>>221371822
The spoiler isn't the reason.
In the watchers world Regan was never president because Nixon never got thrown out of office.
They use Robert Redford because he has the same initials (RR), and is a more contemporary actor running for office so it makes the joke about "LOL an actor as president! Now THAT is wacky!"
Even when the comic was made MOST PEOPLE had forgotten Reagan was a forgettable movie star in the 40's and 50's.

>>221368980
Then why did you fall for the cancer plot?

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>>221371949
>Manhattan can change it's mind, and Rorschach journal with 90% of the puzzle is out and found.
>ESL
>"ah don't worry about that, it's going nowhere!"
literally never said that. You can't understand a comic, shouldn't expect you to understand me.

>>221376651
>unable to change any of it
Does he know that for certain? Like if he saw a world where he does not interfere in the nam did he see it becoming US territory? It feels like it’s just a cope he tells himself to cope with being a lethargic retard who doesn’t want to actually do anything. The Comedian for all his faults was right about him being able to do shit but choosing not to.

>>221375518
>It's absurd robert redford would run for president
>this journal will be taken seriously

>>221369165
No just reread the comic

>>221369165
No, it isn't. Or perhaps just once to get it out of your system. Some scenes are well built, casting is good overall, but other than that, the movie is almost opposite to the comic, they are more like actual heroes and a lot of the subtext is missing, which is precisely what made the comic so great.

After the movie came out the Watchmen fanbase was never ever the same, it's unrecognizable. I also wouldn't even bother with the series, the sequel comics or whatever else.

>>221368980
>I will suck your cock and eat your shit