Was it actually mid, in hindsight?
It was mid but charming. Supergirl is mid but with no charm.
perhaps you're not familiar with the comics because in this version it was a whole different version
>>221382795It's a confirmed flop.
>>221382795It was shit, not even mid
Best Superman movie, most realistic Clark Kent. Biggest titted Lois. Jimmy Olsen is actually white.
>>221382795That pic reminds me of Spoony flying
Perfectly fine and safe Superman movie. Not really memorable though
>>221382795no it's worse because the subversion of Superman into Metrosexual man is hidden better in a somewhat passable movie
>>221382795I’ve been perusing r/boxoffice for the past few days and it’s like the site just snapped out of psychosis. Everybody’s shit talking Gunn and the DCU. It’s also very evident now just how astroturfed Superman was.
>defended it like an autist for weeks/months>dismissed all criticisms>"uh ... actually maybe it was bad"kill yourself
>>221383130Superman and Supergirl are two different movies. Its possible to like the one and not the other
Probably the best actually superman movie of the past twenty years
>>221382795He was really whiny and became a background character in his own movie.
>>221382795He just doesn't look like Superman
>>221383634No, that's supergirl
>>221383654who should have they cast instead?
>>221383547They were both garbage lmao
>>221383694I don't know but he doesn't have the chiselled masculinity and proud presence of Reeve, Cavill, or that guy from Superman Returns. He seems kind of limp and ineffectual.
>>221382795mid would imply it is middle of road and average. it was dogshit. legitimately worse than man of steel. while mos was shit story and had some of dumbest shit imaginable, it was at least well filmed and directed. some great shots that gunn literally steals 1 for 1. both bad films, but gunn has no redeemable aspects in comparison.
>>221383130supergirl is based on one of the shittiest comics ever written and it still decided to change basic parts of the story to make it incomprehensible on film. the dog gets poisoned and is easily cured. in the comic supergirl knows this, but goes along with the ugly fat asian to keep her safe and protect her. the curing of the dog is merely a pretense for protecting the girl on her revenge mission and hopefully leading her away from acting out of purely revenge motivations, which is another major change - they show how to break a cycle of hate in the comic and redeem the villain. they help rehabilitate him and do not outright kill him to resolve the conflict. the girl doesnt forgive him even after his time in prison and his change of heart/quest to help others and redeem himself at the end, but she doesnt killh im either. in movie supergirl just murders him at end to wrap it up and compeltely defeats the entire purpose of the story and themes.
>>221383736superman has always been a nerdy boyscout dudedid you miss the whole point of clark kent?
It was okay I guess. Honestly my main complaint with the movie is that the stakes felt way too high. Like if it was just Lex orchestrating the not-Israel/not-palestine war to defame Superman it would have been alright but the pocket dimension end-of-the-world shit was over the top in a bad way. Just fucking execute him at that point anyone that can do something like that isn't worth dealing with.
>>221383788the comic was mostly popular because the art was amazing that would look awesome in a movie if they did it rightit would have actually cost a fortune to recreate it properly, maybe that's where they hit a wall with itit's sort of a rushed filler movie i feel like they gave up on it half way and moved on
>>221382795I liked the general message of kindness being punk rock because it's true, but yes, the movie was mid.You need a combination of strongest sides of the OG Superman movie, MoS's action and grandeur and this Superman's optimism and some of the humor and you'd end up with a pretty solid movie.
>>221383810He's literally Superman. He's the aesthetically ideal male who inspires with his mere presence. This guy does not look like the ideal male nor does he inspire anyone with his presence.
>>221383867it would have been much better if it was just clark, lois and lex without the other bit parts for the most part >>221383873he's never been that, he inspires people because he does good things not being a weird gay thing
>>221382795>Was it actually mid, in hindsight?Actually, all Superman movies are mid in hindsight, except maybe this one from 1941, where he fights robots and rescues Lois from a volcano.
>>221383899>weird gay thingAh right, you're ugly
>>221383899Agreed.>>221383909Not live action but yeah, there's something about these cartoons that is kino all those years later.I guess it's the power of hand crafted shit, it always looks better than easily made lazy slop.
>>221382795People think a movie has to be a 10/10 best movie ever better than The Godfather and Citizen Kane put together or the biggest piece of shit ever releasedThis is an example of a 6-7/10 movie that's completely serviceable, nothing much else to say. I'm curious if the new DC universe amounts to anything truly great but I'm not holding my breath
>>221383867>kindness being punk rock because it's true
>>221383941It is, in the sense that it's the difficult road to take. It's not hip, especially among young people and neither political side is interested in it either.It also requires a certain level of restraint if not compromise and at the very least manners (all unpopular yucky stuff)
>>221383940a straight to vhs movie/random trash from the 80s and 90s like three ninjas has more value than the slop they put out every other week today. these green screen filmed nepotism scripts with endless edits for test audiences are complete dog shit. the need for propaganda/social engineering further destroys any ability to connect with the films.
>>221382795>midIt was far worse than that.>skip being sent off a dying Krypton>skip growing up with the Kents and learning about his powers>skip meeting Lois and the rest of the Daily Planet>skip finding the Fortress of Solitude>skip becoming Superman>skip Luthor coming to hate Superman>skip getting into a relationship with Lois>skip telling Lois he's SupermanI know that the meme nowadays is that origin stories are lame and repeated too often but fucking hell they squandered so many opportunities for us to get attached to these characters. We jump in to the middle of a story and it's not a very good story to tell. Nobody can even agree on why Lex doesn't like Supes or why the fuck his plan has to be so retardedly convoluted. The characters don't act like real people at all. I'm convinced the only reason people think this was anything other than shit is because anything looks better than Snyder's faggotry.
>>221382795super mid in fact
>>221383992>it's the difficult road to take. It's not hip, especially among young people and neither political side is interested in it either.>It also requires a certain level of restraint if not compromise and at the very least manners (all unpopular yucky stuff)what fucking part in any of that is supposed to be "punk rock"?
>>221383547they are both two different turds, and different shit eaters can like one but not the other
>>221383923reeve was a nerd by 70s standard in his moviereturns supes was a nerd too snyder's endgame was to make superman a villain and make it some darth vader type shit so if that's your ideal you don't get him at all >>221384021we've seen that countless timeshonestly i never want to see an origin story for a superhero in a movie these days, everyone knows those stories
>>221383992Punk was intentionally the opposite of respect, authority, and social conformity. The original punks were wearing swastikas and creating disgustingly offensive looks just to piss people off. You're probably iterating the 'Conservatism is the new punk rock' line from years back but that was also retarded. Punk is intentionally going to give you the middle finger and tell you to fuck off.
>>221384047Punk rock is about going against the grain and what's popular. When it originated society was very different, and while more prudish, people generally behaved much better too, and delinquency was seen as a rebellious thing.Nowadays you'd have an easier time standing out if you're not an asshole, in fact, some people will get suspicious of what snake oil you're trying to sell them by simply being nice.
>>221383130it's not like there's any logic to superkike's supersenses either, they just work however he wants them to do with no downsides
>>221384075Nothing about him being morally upright and squeaky clean means he can't be aesthetically beautiful. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Why do you think they are? And why do you think I like Snyder? What the fuck?
>>221384090No, I get that. But that's more or less the norm nowadays, I'd argue the shit you listed is safe edgy at this point.So a bigger middle finger is actually not doing any of that.
>>221384099it makes less sense for someone to be able to turn off their senses on command
>>221384124No disagreements on acting like an old school punk being cringe and safe today.
>>221382795> James gun doesn’t know what to do with Superman so he puts Superman in jail for the entire movie Fuck off. > in Superman 2 Superman isn’t the main character
>>221384110which aesthetically beautiful man would you have preferred? they actually tried to get elordi but he turned them downi think you're just down on him because he acts like clark kent instead of being some himbo autist
>>221382795Yes it was steaming dogshit. Probably the worst Superman movie ever next to pic related.
>>221382795I still have yet to meet a Superman fan IRL that likes it better than MoS. I feel like all the loved it received was astroturfing or chronically online company war losers with no authentic opinions.
>>221384182Elordi wouldn't be a good fit at all, I'm glad that didn't happen.
>>221384182Not him but I’m not going to blame the actor. He didn’t look like Superman but that was the least of my concerns. The script didn’t give him much to work with. You get the feeling Gunn just told him to ‘act natural’ and that was probably a mistake. Superman isn’t a character you can Jack Nicholson your way through.
>>221384215it was softballed for having a jewish superman finally
>>221384222I think it would work if you reworked the script but I think Corenswet is the better choice overall >>221384236WBD hired James and ordered him to do Superman so I have that in my mind on it all, but I think the bare bones of it was nailed. I don't get the doesnt look like Supes at all either, he's a big squared jaw dude. You don't care about the character and just want Henryman back, who was supposed to turn heel and isn't actually Superman.
>>221382795It's was worse than mid, it was boring. Nobody in the film cared about anything so neither did I.
>>221384075>we've seen that countless timesYeah and it doesn't matter as long as it's done well. It's a fucking Superman movie, the character is almost 90 years old and people still want more shit. If they skipped Supes coming to Earth and growing up with the Kents that would be one thing, but skipping over the formation of Lex's obsession with Supes in a film that centers mostly on Lex's obsession with Supes is absolutely retarded. Treating the Kents as an afterthought in a film where the Kents are meant to renew Superman's sense of purpose is retarded. If they just wanted to tell an isolated Superman story then yeah, you don't need that shit, but you can't just bring in shit that wasn't set up to write yourself out of a corner. The film wants to knock Clark down hard with the reveal of what his Kryptonian family was really like, so they pretend that the Kents barely exist, only to just drag them in so Supes can remember that he actually does have amazingly loving parents and we can resolve that character dilemma neatly in time for the finale. They forgot to plant Chekov's gun in the dresser so instead they just referenced a comic where they did plant the gun in the dresser.
>>221383130>admitting you browse Reddit>posting screenshots from RedditYou are actually just a Redditor who decided to peruse /tv/ for a bit.
>>221384284Not only does he look like Superman but carries himself that way, even IRL.The casting wasn't the issue, other aspects brought the movie down more.Also, Lex was underwhelming despite being better than the previous version.
>>221382795Gunn blunders againDC is finished
>>221384293So do you think they should do a Steamboat Willie movie? The Kents are not an afterthought, the crux of the whole movie is that his loves Pa and Ma so much that he thinks using his powers for anything but good is unthinkable.
>>221384284>one feature in keeping with the characterOk yeah it’s me it’s not you. He looked like a giant dork that didn’t exude any of the masculinity previous on screen Supermans had. He literally came off as softer than Routh and he’s a literal fag. His features are fucking disarming and nerdy. He looks like he’d get the shit kicked out of him in a fight. And before you give me any Clark Kent shit this is Superman we are talking about not Peter Parker.
>>221382795yeahi got so bored i stopped watching near the end
>>221382795In a literal since yes it was middling, putting it exactly on par with ever superman dedicated movie for 20 years going on now.
>>221382795It’s comfy HBO Max content but that’s where the praise ends. It’s also just not what DC is aiming for. People want a worthy theater experience, an epic theater experience. Gunn is a total retard focusing of F tier characters and making cheap comedies on top of that.
>>221384144it’s the same thing, supersenses don’t have to make sense, she experiences the alcohol delirium however she wants same as superman experiences his senses and the passage of time however he wants
>>221382795>mid
>>221382795>Slaughter them all, my invincible sonMaking his parents evil was weird
So we all agree Ana Nogueira did sexual favors for Gunn right? Zero writing credits and out of nowhere lands 3 DC movies
>>221384197>Superman IVThey made more after the third one!?How was it?
>>221383130>r/boxoffice for the past few days and it’s like the site just snapped out of psychosis.what? r/boxoffice is as almost as nuts as /tv/ with their bias and fanboying, im pretty sure half that subreddit is full of you fags.
>>221384431It’s funny Gunn got away with this but he who shall not be named supposedly hates Superman. I can’t think of anything signaling hatred more than making him come from some hyper privileged megalomaniacs.
>>221384477>he who shall not be namedBack to Plebbit
>>221384477lord voldemort?
>>221384488Would you rather I say the name and have my opinion discredited by a false dichotomy? You go back.
>>221384374superman was the prototype superheropeter parker was based on clark kent and reworked to be more personable he absolutely should be peter parker in part
>>221384349>The Kents are not an afterthoughtThen why does it seem like they don't exist for 90% of the movie? Superman has a fucking mental breakdown because his self-identity was entirely dependent on his Kryptonian family.In Guardians 2, Starlord was estranged from Yondu for years. Ego gave him a sense of purpose as well as the familial connection he needed. Yondu coming in at the end and trying to make things right changed the way Starlord thought about himself. Something changed to give Starlord this realization. Gunn tries to do a similar payoff in Superman but there's no fucking reason why Clark would have this character arc when the Kents are consistently shown to be loving and good parents. Nothing changed. He always had a family. The film just says he forgot about that family for some reason and then realizes they're there. It's silly.
>>221384503I would rather you stopped being an autistic troon but here we are
>>221384470Cheaply made trash
>>221382795Superman freed Palestine, so it was kino watching people seethe about it
>>221384527Retard lmao
>>221384505Clark Kent in the comics has long been a gigachad with glasses. There’s a stark difference there. But you know that. Any more disingenuous bullshit you’d like to get off your chest?
This is what you fags wanted. Remember that.
>>221384546To be fair to the board, I’m pretty sure it was just a handful of MCU bred Gunn fags that wanted it. I vividly remember the majority of posts saying Gunn was not equipped for it.
>>221384506Would have liked more Kents instead of Mr T and the other goofballs but ultimately the story is he's a punk rock texas farm boy from space which is an excellent thing. The bones of it are awesome despite the execution. As far as Krypton is concerned, it never made sense why their civilization collapsed so I'm ok with them being like failed Earth empires which is sort of what I got from it. They want to be good colonists like many people from Earth did and they generally failed. I see it like at Europeans trying to take over Africa or South East Asia where it's just shit that would never work.
>>221384546看起来像屎
>>221384546more like reheating a turd
>Gunn's DCEUIt's over. There's no way Man of Tomorrow can make more than Superman, and that already underperformed. Supergirl crashed and burned immediately. No one watched Pissmaker or the other tv shows. The DCEU is finished (again).
>>221382795It was pretty bad. The whole plot was nonsensical, the characters were meh, and the tonal whiplash was bizzare. And Lex was cringe.I don’t get why it is so hard to make a good Superman movie.
>>221383130That is pretty dumb.
>>221382795
>>221384527He freed Ukraine from Russia.
>>221383867>Kindness is the new punk rockis this directly toward the people who laugh at assassination attempts?
>>221382795Yes, the most memorable part wasn't even Superman but Guy and his middle finger constructs.
>>221384431Goku borrowed elements from Superman's backstory so Gunn returned the favor.
>>221383130Superman 2025 became a political topic. If you were against Gunn and Superman, you were a chud. Americans think in binaries despite the bipartisan system is a fraud
It was visually ugly, spent too much time setting up a universe that probably won't even happen now, and the version of Superman they created is boring.
>>221384438She's too old for Gunn
>>221382795Gunn did himself no favors by yapping about how the DCU is all "quality first" and "no greenlight until the screenplay is perfect" for every film. Clayface might be alright, but so far the DCU is just more of the same shit we've seen a hundred times before.
>be Gunn>be an extremely shitty writer and director that only found success being tard wrangled by Feige>somehow your pedo narcissism makes you think you're hot shit after three movies of genocidal CG racoon dropping quips>go to DC>somehow trick the dumb fuck suits to make you head of DC, immediately multiple big budget DC movies flop and are cancelled>The Batman 2 is on hold as Gunn fights to steal the character>finally releases his DC Superman movie (his soiboi army pretended TSS never happened)>despite huge gaslighting by the online soiboi community, the movie becomes a flop with International audiences and far behind MoS not even adjusting for inflation>has to keep shill Peacemaker wherever possible, making Peacemaker more important than the actual man of steel>all upcoming projects are inbound flops and only appealing to a soiboi online forum warrior like Gunn>doesn't even dare to call Man of Tomorrow a Superman sequel>Supergirl is yet another wacky space comedy GoTG rehashBRAVOOOOO
>>221384431>fuck all the humans ClarkGunn is a sex-obsessed degenerate. The therapy after the pedo tweets did fuck all.
>>221382795I liked it. It did a good job of showing the boyscout side of Superman. Interfering with international affairs without thinking, just trying to do the right thing. Prioritizing civilians over fighting. And trying to find a way to get the kaiju out alive because he's so strong it affords him leeway. The squirrel was a bit much though.Luthor was well written. Very true to character unlike Eisenberg. Not the best casting, but it was fine.I liked how it wasn't afraid to lean into comic zaniness. It didn't feel like it was apologizing for being capeshit.Mr. Terrific was a fun straight man character I wasn't too familiar with.Lois and Jimmy Olsen were perfect.Ma and Pa Kent were the most accurate depictions so far, although they overdid it on making them backwater hicks.It wasn't trying to be cinema. It was trying to be a fun superhero flick, and it did a good job at that.It has its flaws though, like the dumb manual control of Ultraman which makes no sense with Superman's speed.
>>221384431It's so weird because the movie seems to be going out of its way to foreshadow that this a forgery by Lex and they'll uncover the "real" message about peace, love, and understanding near the end. And then it just doesn't happen. It's so out of place that it feels like some kind of last minute rewrite.
>>221385058>Just-ice League
>>221385854>And trying to find a way to get the kaiju out alive because he's so strong it affords him leeway.He stood there, watching Mr. Terrific kill the Kaiju. With all his speed, he could have stopped it.
Remember when shills tried to force the 1A meme so they could pretend this movie had cultural impact?
>>221384075>snyder's endgame was to make superman a villain and make it some darth vaderIts called a Story and this is /tv/.You stupid fatfuck schizophrenic shitstain.That's how you make a complete chapter for a multiple movie sagaNow I know why 80's and 90's bullying of nerds movie trope was so popular.The cape-shitting subhuman mouth-breathers deserved it.>honestly "i i i i i i i ii i i" never want to see an origin story ...Is that why PedoMan couldn't beat Man of steel or Supergirl couldn't beat Morbius or Black Adam Now go back and watch your favorite movie "Joker 3 featuring - Gulp Shitto vs Thanos"
>>221382795Worst of all Superman movies and an embarrassing misunderstanding of the character
>>221385919It really is just an okay Superman movie. They tried to make it a little goofy but also a little somber but couldn't find the balance.
>>221385915He wasn't gonna start a fight with the Justice Gang over how to handle this.
The only things I didn't like were Lois Lane's wardrobe and Eve Teschmacher being pretty in the trailer but less attractive in the movie.
>>221385854Superman is an emotional retard despite years of experience. He doesn't act like Supes at all but rather Gunn projecting his insecurities towards criticism.Luthor was written like a bipolar tard; switching from super genius to super retafd depending on what the script wanted. His army of CG apes doing shitposts on Twitter was laughable. Gunn is perpetually online loser. The Lex presented in BvS is a million times more multi-layered, shrewd, evil and unpredictable. Mr Terrific functioned like a secondary GoTG character that exists to fill a function in the script as a glorified deus exWhat was so perfect about Jimmy? He's just a projection of Gunn's skinny-nerdy-white-guy-like that scores hot chicks. And Lois looked like any random single broad in her 40s. You didn't mention how terribly slop the action is, how the villains are true 1D cardboard cutouts, how Justice Gang outshines Superman and how every character somehow indulges in sex-crazed perversion including Clark's real parents.
>>221385956So he’s a pushover and doesn't act on what he preaches?
>>221385966This looks very cheap and low effort. How high was the budget?
>>221385936a bad story is a story of course
>>221386005Some tax cut papers say close to 300m.
>>221386042>>221385936You guys do know that Superman wasn't going to be depicted as a mind controlled enforcer throughout the entire movie, right? It was a time-travel story where the latter half is all about Superman in the present leading the heroes of earth against Darkseid. The mind control stuff was just at the very beginning, for a small scene.
>>221385968More like he knows he's being kinda unrealistic and isn't gonna hold everyone to his standards.Starting a fight over this might result in the Kaiju causing casualties while they squabble, so it's better to just let the Justice Gang kill it and focus on containment and rescue.
>>221386050Why didn't she just turn around?
>>221386042>Its le bad cus other man-childs dont like itDo share your schizophrenic dream about it.Cus nobody has watched it.
>>221386097>More like he knows he's being kinda unrealistic and isn't gonna hold everyone to his standards.So he just lets others handle his problems, even in deadly ways, while he watches, because he's a pushover whose convictions are flimsy and all talk.
>>221382795>Superman throws manchild tantrums multiple times>Krypto isn’t even a Labrador or shepherd & is Gunn’s own dumb mutt, first ever nepo hire animal>The retarded viltrumite ripoff of Superman being sent to Earth to enslave the planet>The super friends all sucked besides hawkgirl’s soft Latina booty, why the fuck is Guy Gardner over 70>shitty mcu humor, isn’t it funny that Jimmy Olsen KEKED Lex Luthor?>Awakening tier cgi fight scenesThe only good parts was hawkgirl wearing tight spandex & not Netanyahu being thrown from the sky
>>221386050Seems like it would have been easier to just turn around than doing a hand stand and then morphing your feet into your hands and your hands into your feet then sprouting a head out of your ass; but what do I know.
>>221386050jesus, what the fuck did i just watch?
>>221386098Because that would look better, and Gunn is all about making things look like shit.
>>221386071so it was the same shitlander shiti want an uncorruptable superman, that's supposed to be his whole deal he's lawful good and an earth bro and it's impossible to change that the whole bit with the absolute universe is that is darkseidf created a universe without superman being autisticly good >>221386116supergirl is a forced filler moviedo you forget it took 9 years for the mcu to get good? you'll be 80 by then or 70 i guess
Why was there so much swearing? I can understand it in a movie like Suicide Squad, but shouldn't a Superman movie be more family friendly? I just constantly got the impression that Gunn didn't understand the character or the tone and was just trying to slot this into his tryhard reddit edgeverse.
>>221386121All fair points but people were so starved for both an acceptable faithful Superman film & a summer blockbuster that wasn’t so obsessed with politics that the film got given a lot of grace. Man of Tomorrow has to tighten the screenplay or it’s getting pummeled this next go round
>>221386161i also watch the drinker my based friendwe need to fight for the state of israel from woke girlbosses
>>221386227Oh did he make that joke? I thought I was being original. Oh well.
>>221386214>i want an uncorruptable superman, that's supposed to be his whole deal
>>221386220But it wasn't a faithful Superman.
>>221386220>that the film got given a lot of graceDid it? People mostly just ignored it.
>>221386220This. You can tell reviewers & people who watched it were biting their tongues. I still liked Mister Terrific & Metamorpho though
>>221386276>Mister TerrificWhy did Superman need a token black friend?>MetamorphoWho acted nothing like Metamorpho.
>>221386276they weighed too much into the superfunds but there's like an ulterior motive to it where clark can have a heart to heart with lois and trust his niggas tp take care of it while he tells her love is punk rockthat added detail is super important
>>221382795It tries way too hard to be wholesome. Snyder Superman was too stoic, Gunn Superman is too faggy.
>>221382953Second most walled Lois after Amy Adams, she looked like a hot 40yo and never showed any skin, BORING.overall i found the movie a solid 6/10 slopfest. MoS was an easy 8.5 and my favourite superman film by a mile.
>>221386238>>221386227Funny how his biggest haters can cite every joke he makes
>>221382795Nah, it's probably the best Superman movie after II, but not exactly like its a high bar because the Snyder movies were such shit.
>>221386220Man of Tomorrow is going to be even shittier & it’ll massacre my nigga brainiac
>>221386098this, even if you're gonna do the cringy body-morph scene, the most efficient movement is to simply whirlwind yourself at the waist and throw the blades out like a disc-thrower. Which im sure looked ridiculous, but this is objectively worse.
>>221386445People lie to shill this with a straight face.
>>221382795Good morning sir.
It made me feel good and positiveI like itIt also made zionists seethe for some reason
>>221382795Superman is just an inherently boring character
>>221386725Manchild
>>221386412Nah, she’s actually a character instead of a blank wall and has big tities and panty shots in that one vid
>>221386764>having fun and being a good person is.. le cringeok shlomo
>>221384470>How was it?NuKINOlear!https://youtu.be/84ElAQazLoQ?si=HjnCGxyGAsYyOwv1
