Why are they like this? What makes the attitude? Don't tell me stress. I was an operating room tech hired off the street by the a hospital and the surgery rooms and surgeons were more laid back than cooks I see on tv. At worst the neurosurgeons are very uptight but they don't get sleep. When a trauma case would come in everyone just gets quiet and does their job like robots. When it wasn't an emergency with people who had insides on their outsides we joked about eating bits of old people after hip replacements when I would squeegee chunks of bone off the ceiling.
>>221388239I'm tired of The Bear threads come up with something new
>>221388239A lot of cooks are low lifes, criminals, and junkies. You are comparing very stupid people with terrible emotional and mental regulation to incredibly smart successful people.
>>221388268It was a stealth talk about your job thread for 3rdshifters in the paramedic, firefighting and orderly roles while shitting on cooks
>>221388280My only requirement was that I was willing to shave old man genitals before surgery. Seriously
>>221388239A better question is why cooks/people in the food industry cause so much seethe on /tv/. You're not obligated to like your job.I make a decent living doing office work and I still cherish every moment of free time I get and don't regret my NEET year's whatsoever.Working in a kitchen is a shitty gig overall unless you're really passionate about it and head chefs tend to be uppity elitist cunts too. On paper it shouldn't be super stressful as a profession but real life has shown otherwise.
>>221388306I was talking about the surgeons.
>>221388348I was saying though the techs are often the same sort of scum and villainy you'd find in restaurants. The people the theatre nurses are bossing around at best have a training credit through the hospital after scrubbing floors for a while
>>221388239The bear would have been so much better without the
>>221388239Thank you for your service
>>221388239I don't even like the Bear but the reason he acts that way is because of his family which you'd know and would be obvious if you watched the show instead of complaining about a meme of the show.
now think how fun it would be if you had a single person per operation and your team did 300 of them a night.
>>221388480yeah carm has a BPD mom and a brother who shot himself. I’d be an emotional wreck too.
>>221388239Alcohol/drug abuse. Cooks know their jobs don't matter. Now really he isn't really a cook but he's trying to get a bunch of cooks to act like they give a fuck about their work.
>>221388480And Carmy also didn't even like cooking, he just got into it out of spite/ego + used it as an escape from his problems
>>221388239I really hate this Jew's face
>>221388824I use weed to treat my anxiety maaaanNo nigga, it causes a mood disorder you don't notice while high
>>2213882391) the patient is asleep and nobody is 'waiting' for you. Everyone knows it will take as long as it takes the pressure of 'keeping someone waiting' is visceral even if they're not waiting for anything important 2) Chef job selects for people who aren't the type who see that stress makes things worse, and doesn't get you anywhere and so it's senseless. Chef job selects for people who think running around and yelling at people is efficiency precisely because people's lunches don't fucking matter. 3) as such you need to get worked up to take the task on board, to even bother to make a stupid meaningless sandwitch at all, you need to make fake stakes. The stress is coming from the Chefs. In the operating theatre you don't need to generate stress because the stakes are real and surgeons are people who know stress doesn't improve outcomes
Healthcare people are psychopaths. The job selects for people who aren't bothered by suffering and physical trauma, they also don't care about stress
>>221388306How do you not understand that the composure under pressure that you are crediting to surgeons does not rub off on you for simply being in the room? What a bizarre set of posts. You made a valid point about surgeons who have someone's life in their hands being calmer than chefs, someone said 'chefs are trash' and you said 'But I'm also trash'? As if you started thinking that you were a surgeon and someone's life was in your hands at the time that you were the cleaner at the hospital?? Wat?
>>221388327It’s weird when you’ve had bad experiences in the industry and there is an entire genre of TV that celebrates how deranged chefs can be. I don’t know of any other examples of that. Head chefs are uppity cunts if you’re lucky, some might even be cool. But if you’re unlucky they’re alcoholic drug addicts who abuse everyone around them. Honestly people like Gordon Ramsay would be preferable to some of the people I’ve encountered. I suspect there are probably health issues that come with working in a poorly ventilated kitchen too. I worked with a dude who was relatively normal who became a violent schizo within 6 months and started talking to himself without noticing. The only thing that changed in his life was he started working in a kitchen
>>221388918>they also don't care about stressmost are adrenaline junkies that convert stress to get a rush.
>>221388833he's not jewish thoughbeit
>>221388440Bear was taken
>>221388940Agreed. I hate how TV shows are enabling the shitty behavior. I mean, I get that you can be passionate about your creations, but you can also be a cunt. It's not tough love, it's not passion, it's not about being great. You're just a cunt and that's it. I've met some head chefs who are successful and also nice people. They will raise their voice to keep things going but not in the Gordon Ramsay "fuck you you fucking cunt, where's your passion" kind of way. Frankly I find it absurd how people are romanticizing shitty behavior and defending shit like throwing plates on the wall because the decorative flower was slightly in the wrong angle on the dish.
>>221388239Thought the season looked good at leastt but S5 was so underwhelming. Nothing felt earned and everyone's success and growth felt rushed despite the last 2 seasons leading to this. The Neil and plumber scenes always took me out of it, same with Computer and Cicero scenes always felt out of place. Syd still being written so cringe and the exaggerated facial expressions compared to everyone else's acting always looked odd..
>>221388239If you want real answer it's because of this faggot. He and his PR team are people who invented this image and popularized it. It's funny now to look up his interviews and see a regret in his eyes that he will now be remembered as a cringe psycho retard
>>221388717>when a civie(patient, male, 56yo, 200lb) throws a grenade(right pulmonary artery infarction) 10 minutes before end of shift(05:50)
>>221389178Agreed. It's why I couldn't stand shows like Hell's Kitchen or Masterchef. I know it's done for the show, but throwing plates and food on the ground, cursing and screaming, is subhuman behavior. I don't care if you have 10 star badges from a tyre company, I don't want to see your face again.
>>221389332comparing a kitchen to an ER is more honest. op compared it to a surgery operation.if you'd take ten chefs and told them they'd need to make a dinner for one person two months from now and they'll deeicate an entire shift or a big chunk of it for this one single meal, i assure you it would be calm and quiet procedure.doing service at a busy, higher end restaurant is honestly very stressful and difficult. you have to constantly think on your feet, doing complex handcraft while keeping track of timings and orders all the time and you can't really mess anything up or it might mean the entire evening's service goes to shit (catching the rhythm is hard)i am not in any way comparing a cooks work to a medical professionals, by the way. medicine is obviously a much harder and more taxing profession by far. but talking purely about the abstract nature of the workflow.
>>221389590that's not how cases work though in an OR, the preplanned ones get bumped all day as shit rolls in from the ER and we are scrambling around the Pac room to build the surgery carts with the tools the surgeons prefer as the Ambulance rolls in, often times nagging the guys running the autoclave
>>221389590>think on your feetyou think with your brain, not with your feet
>>221388239All you had to say was youre a civvie, but you decided to type out a whole essay instead
>>221388239Because chefs are valuable members to society.
>>221389217tihs would make sense if you posted an image of gordon ramsey who's 10x more known than mpw.i really doubt mpw had a fucking pr team as a young chef. and he's been like bob ross everytime i watched something from him from the last 15 years.
>>221389590a right pulmonary artery infarction would be ER not a pre-planned surgery
>>221389664>i really doubt mpw had a fucking pr team as a young chef.he was close friends with food writers who came to his restaurant, thats the same as having a pr team, they crafted his bad boy image, see pic>from the last 15 years.that the problem, the man is 64. all the arsehole chef stuff is from the 90's
>>221388239His fr*cking brother committed suicide and you have the balls to question his behavior? You wouldn't last one day in his shoes, chump. Semper fry, brothers
>it's another "civvie doesn't get it" threadand you never fucking will
>>221388239>What makes the attitude?food critics, imagine competing in a marathon you have been training for months or years for and getting disqualified at the finish line because you were wearing the wrong colour socks, thats why executive / michelin star chefs are pissed off all the time
>>221390174>pea sized frozen steak>a leaf>some supermarket sauce shat on the empty side of the plate>Here's your michelin meal sir, that'll be 500$ plus tip
>>221388289heres a aisloppe opening image you can use then for it
>>221388239Ask surgeons to operate ten patients at the same time and get a nurse to run in and announce loudly whenever a new crash victim is brought in and see how chill they stay
>>221388239I've worked in both back and front of the house. In the kitchen, people call off for stupid shit every other day, but the cooks are expected to maintain more than they're own station, yet never get compensated for it. Imagine being used to having assistants and nurses, but every few days, and you never know which days until you get there, those people you rely on aren't there. Just randomly. That means in you're head, you're used to having say 2 hours to prep your station and whatever else is needed, and you're already moving at a fairly quick pace. Then you come in one day after drinking, expecting to know what you have to do, but now you have another hour of prep to do, without the extra hour to do it. Then you have to do 1 and half stations, so all the food comes out slower and you have to spend more time cleaning. At most you get another hour or two of pay, when you really should be getting another 4-5 bucks and hour, every hour. Then you get to hear the servers bitch they didn't get tipped enough even though they make usually twice what you do. The Bear exaggerates a lot, but it really can be a nightmare when you have shitty coworkers and management who never really fires anyone. Half the restaurants in the country shouldn't even be businesses, and wouldn't be without screwing the cooks. That's also why you see mostly Mexicans in the kitchen, which makes it even more difficult because half of them can't speak English properly. In a nice restaurant, a lot of these problems don't exist, so you can actually focus on your own job. In shit ones, either you end up doing it to catch back up, or you're literally behind all day long
>>221388239I have worked in busy restaurants, sales (tech and insurance) hospital theatres and currently working in a hospital ED as a Nurse. The truth is that all are stressful in their own unique ways but this show definitely captures how stressful a busy restaurant is. Sales was the stress that made me want to kms, restaurants made me want to drink after every shift, theatre is a mixed bag with some shifts being utterly boring where nothing eventful happens so only the politics and the bitching and a few deaths really bothered me after work and ED is absolute sensory overload at its worst but the job satisfaction balances that and makes the others feel boring in comparison. My biggest complaint with the show is that the plot ground to a halt with no meaningful progression.
>>221389664this dude thinks history started in 2005
>>221388239Mostly hard drugs and incompetence. If you go to a proper restaurant, you won't hear any screaming, just people doing their jobs as one person occasionally calls out orders
