Filtered

>shonenshit doesn't make sense
no fucking way!

>>221395423
Filtered husk without any spirit of adventure.

>>221395423
One Piece is the reason 1.5 video speed became a thing.

>>221395461
Other series manage it OK.

Luffy has zero internal believabilitie other anime explain why the thing they want even is.

>>221395486
>One Piece is the reason 1.5 video speed became a thing.
AHAHAHHA AHAHAHAH AAHAHHA

I tried to get back into the anime. I was slow.

>1.5
All the time and I skipped the intro and outro.
And once I hit the long staring at one another drag I did give up.

I literally spend 35 minutes of REAL TIME watching a 1.5 episode one after another and jumping to skip the intro before I did give up.
35 minutes of what feels work for these clowns to stand around and do nothing!

Who the fuck watches this trash and why was it not canceled?
I swear this anime is the single greatest point why filler is needed.
Filler you can skip.
What if in these 20 episodes of staring at one another a character says 1 line that is important?

>Yeeaaah, I'm a normal boy with big dreams
>I'm gonna make it!!
>1000 episodes laters or 10 years later
>Just kidding, bro, I'm literally GOD

There you go, Japanese storytelling for kids in a nutshell.

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>>221395423
>So how will he know if he finds it?
They explain in the series. I'll skip the details and just say that there's a "map".

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>>221395558
They explain why everyone wants One Piece at the start of every episode. Wealth, Fame, or Power.
Pirates all think it's either treasure, a weapon, or just a huge source of renown.

Although for Luffy it's just a fun pirate adventure. And he wants the freedom that comes with being Pirate King.

>>221395423
>Yes I am obsessed with stories of Gold Roger
No he's not, he's obsessed with Shanks. You could probably count the number of times Luffy's mentioned Roger on one hand.

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>>221396096
>They explain in the series
When?

In Loguetown or something it he confirms that he has no fucken idea WTF the one piece even is.

Yea I quit after Alabasta.
Can not get back in because the pacing is literally torture.

>say that there's a "map".
And what exactly will they look at? I mean I presume the map is to some island or place on a island. How will they know that is the thing?

> I'll skip the details and just
Yea more proof that Oda is making that shit up as he goes along.
And this is very retarded.

He could have made the one piece basically the dragon balls and say it is a lamp that can grant any wish hover it will self destruct after that.

> being Pirate King.
How does that work exactly?
You get some trinket and every pirate will bow down to you like in all these meme reaction pictures of that karate manga?

Or what?

>at the start of every episode.
>wealth, fame, power
Nice misquoting fagot!
>Wealth. Fame. Power. The man who had everything in this world... The Pirate King, Gold Roger.
Context is different!
>Power
Not enough power to overcome the world government!!!!1111ONE ONE

>>221396266
>No he's not
HUH. Ok digging your grave more I see.

>No he's not
Even if he hates the guy he still needs to know WTF the one piece is to find it.

>No he's not
Then why does he want the one piece?
Before you try to cope see above.

>I want to be the pirate king like Gold Rogger!
>Umm I do not care about him.

Very problematic.
And even if you want to make him a retard presumably other people are also after the one piece. Do they know? Does anyone know?

See the show has zero internal logic and feels fake. The world feels fake to a unimaginable degree especially that the narrator talks about this great age of piracy and the one piece others want....
Is that even canon???

Because this is not your starwars bitching how a knife vanished in 1 frame of a movie the entire world is presumably obsessed with this one piece treasure.... However outside of the narrator talking aobut it.....
Is that even canon???

If Oda pulls this shit I swear!
Will it be the same as
>It is not Gold Rogger
>It is Gol D Rogger!

>>221395423
it's literally for children

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>>221396316
>When?
Very early on they reveal that One Piece is on Raftel, the final island of the Grand Line which only Roger reached.
The map isn't mentioned until very far into the series, but it's the map to Raftel.
>How will they know that is the thing?
These islands aren't that big. Presumably it will be obvious. They'll know it when they see it. They just have to explore a bit.
>Yea more proof that Oda is making that shit up as he goes along.
I'm skipping the details because trying to explain them would make it harder to understand. I'm simplifying for your benefit. Like it's not actually a map. But that's the easiest way to explain it.
>You get some trinket and every pirate will bow down to you?
The "map" is split into 4 pieces and the 4 pirate emperors are fighting to collect them all.
If you make it to Raftel it basically means you defeated the pirate emperors and collected all the map pieces. So you're already acknowledged as the strongest pirate in the world. And then you found the treasure left behind by the last Pirate King. So yeah, at that point you're the undisputed Pirate King. A lot of people will still hate you of course.
>Not enough power to overcome the world government!
Actually, that's probably precisely what it's for.

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>>221395423
YOU'RE BULLSHIT

Why do people watch the show rather than read the manga?

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>>221396622
>Actually, that's probably precisely what it's for.
Then why did the world government get him and killed him?

Keep in mind the show is basically DBZ at this point
>I am charging my super saiyan bankai HAKI!
>No I have more HAKI Ki then you!
>My HAKI power level is greater then yours!

>If you make it to Raftel
And this is confirmed by what?
The officer who sits there and writes you a certificate saying you arrived to Raftel???

>I'm skipping the details because trying to explain them would make it harder to understand
This entire thing is literally paper thin.
>Get all 7 dragon balls, sorry 4 peaces of the map
>Get to island
>Get ??? <unknown object> named the one piece.

> I'm simplifying for your benefit
No you are posting redacted bullshit that pretends to be complicated or is Oda a shit writer like that?
All of it is made up crap.


>These islands aren't that big
it can literally be fucken anything including a 9x9 sized object

>>221396903
>Why do people watch the show rather than read the manga?
Great question.

Let me ask first a counter question!
>Why do people watch the show rather than read the manga?
Why does the anime even exist then?

After you answer this let me explain it to you.
> rather than read the manga?
Ok lets see
>Work or do things all day
>Want to relax
>Do not want to read more text want others to speak to you

It is not that hard to understand!

retarded complaints, the series is great because the character aren't typical edgelord shonen crybabies and are just men that are trying to accomplish things and be free, it consistently covers people fighting back against oppression and Luffy and his crew inspires different peoples to stand up against the horrors they experience, its pure heroism and pure adventure. That and if you're not a bitter loser its funny

>>221395423
>He doesn't understand the romance of chasing an impossible dream
NPC

>>221397252
>Then why did the world government get him and killed him?
Roger was already dying of an illness. He didn't have time left to make use of whatever One Piece was. He allowed himself to be captured.
>Keep in mind the show is basically DBZ at this point
You won't get any argument from me on that. The haki thing got stupid fast.
>And this is confirmed by what?
By all the defeated pirate emperors you fought to steal their map pieces.
>Get all 7 dragon balls
It is kinda like that.

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>>221397501
>That and
Sir the main WTF moment is when you realize that
THE NAME OF THE FUCKEN SHOW
THE THING THE MAIN CHARACTER IS OBSESSED OVER

Is a unknown.
Like not only the audience has no idea WTF that shit is the main character also has no idea.

There are things to like in one piece like the villains and things that are stupid like usopp and things that literally make it impossible to watch and banned under the Geneva convention as inhumane torture like the pacing.

However I think other can agree that not giving any explanation what the one piece is... even to the characters in universe is terrible world building.

Like Oda could have literally made it the dragon balls. Like the original dragon balls before the retcon nerf where you can wish for anything LITERALLY ANYTHING however only 1 time(explains why Rogger did not use it and got captured). However he did not.

>>221397744
I don't know why you hate mystery so much. That's the best part.

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>>221397735
>You won't get any argument from me on that. The haki thing got stupid fast.
Yep I agree.
When I got back into watching it and did hear about haki I did think it was stupid.

Before haki it was a interesting interaction of powers who sometimes totally nullified others.
I did hear from others that Sir Crocodile was basically the end of one piece since if you introduce an ability so powerful like logia fruits you basically ended the show. Logia fruits should have the end of the show or right next to the end as a final boss of some kind.

To correct this Oda added basically DBZ where now devil powers are meaningless and haki wins and the guy with the bigger haki VS haki power level wins a fight.

>you fought to steal their map pieces.
And what confirms that these are real map parts?
Anyone can draw on paper nonsense!
>No no one whould fake anything in the one piece universe...
I remind you this guy exists!

>>221396903
Most people don't like reading.

>>221397764
>mystery
Yep found the problem right here!

It is literally Steven Universe all over again!
>mystery
It is not a mystery if characters in your show who should know something do not know it (it is OK if you obfuscate this from the audience however).

>mystery
Who is a trivial answer.

>That's the best part.
>OH BOY I CAN NOT WAIT TO WATCH OVER 1000 EPISODES (CLOWN EMOJI) TO GET A SIMPLISTIC ANSWER!

>>221397306
The anime is not the original creator’s work. It is an adaptation. Why wouldn’t you read the original work for a fraction of the time?

>>221397879
>Sir Crocodile was basically the end of one piece since if you introduce an ability so powerful like logia fruits
Smoker was the first Logia in the series, and he was actually a bigger threat than Crocodile because he didn't have an easily exploitable weakness.
Also they had kairoseki as a general purpose counter to logias which was introduced along with Smoker.
>devil powers are meaningless and haki wins
Not really. What you really want is both. DF powers can give you an edge over an opponent with stronger haki. This happens a bunch of times in the series.
There's one particular character who can basically defeat anyone just by touching them, but she's weak as fuck. If she had strong haki too she'd be a monster.
>And what confirms that these are real map parts?
Damn, I'm gonna have to explain the details.
The map pieces are Poneglyphs. In case you don't know what they are yet. Indestructible engraved stone blocks nobody knows how to replicate or fake.

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I want to still like One Piece, but I just can't anymore.
It's not even that it didn't grow up with me, if anything it regressed. Arcs repeat themselves down to the powers the underlings have, flashbacks get evermore grim to the point of parody, horrible pacing, character flanderization and more.
It's just not fun anymore.

>>221395423
>t. Celestial Elder of Zion

>>221395423
One Piece went to shit long ago but the nature of the One Piece itself doesn't matter to Luffy, he wants it only so that he can become the pirate king

>>221398095
>The anime is not the original creator’s work

/co/ is this way sir >>>>/co/

the one piece is a treasure chest and if you find it you become King of the Pirates officially
>b-b-b-b-b-but how does everyone else know? what makes it official?
it just is. also it will end 1 chapter after Luffy becomes the king because there's nothing else to say, that's a different story that will never be told

>>221398234
>Smoker was the first Logia in the series
Was it even obvious back then?
Like he did strange shit however there was no official
>Oh yea this is like a new class of devil fruits that is totally OP!

>kairoseki
The what?

>Not really
Yes they are.
They nullify all devil fruit abilities if your haki level is above the medium level.

>who can basically defeat anyone just by touching them
Can she not be blocked if you turn your body part into the haki black shit?
So her instant win on contact does not work?

>What you really want is both
No you really do not. DF makes you vulnerable to water haki does not and nullifies DF powers like literally owning logia abilities.
There is only 1 DF power that has a positive interaction with haki and that is the buggy the clown chop chop fruit because now you can make your haki hands fly etc.

There is no benefit to having rubber abilities and haki.

>Poneglyphs
I know about them.

> Indestructible engraved stone
OK.
Is this general knowledge? like do others know this or can anyone come with a paper and say
>Look Roggers map this proves I was to the island and I am the pirate king!

>blocks nobody knows how to replicate or fake.
Are all of Poneglyphs map peaces or only some?

>replicate or fake
Can people read them? If not then why can someone not grab 4 random ones and go
>Look Roggers map this proves I was to the island and I am the pirate king!
Yes it is immeasurably more difficult then with paper however if not all of them are the map then you do that.

>Poneglyphs. In case you don't know
You know maybe they decided to talk about them once more after Alabasta 200 episodes later however I stopped watching by that point. Another problem with one piece!

PS:
Am I the only one who dose not give a shit about the lost century?
>Unnn things happened and the world government deleted this history
What do you even expect to find there?

>Bunch of kingdoms and wars
WOW how incredibly boring!

>>221398855
>One Piece went to shit
The show or the treasure?

>, he wants it only so that he can become the pirate king
All the points I mentioned still apply..

>>221399075
>that's a different story that will never be told
AHHAHAHA you underestimate the greed of corporations!

>>221395423
It's not about the One Piece retard. It's about getting there. Getting to Laugh Tale. In the island, the One Piece will be there and it will be obvious to the biggest retard in the world. Gol D. Roger found it and laughed because he knew it was the One Piece instantly.

How will others know? Are you stupid? The One Piece isn't an e celeb chasing in universe you stupid. This is a thing only pirates chase. You know, the fucking bad guys. Before Marineford normal people didn't even believe it was real. Only after Whitebeard confirmed it existed, the world was convinced.

>>221399265
the manga is called one piece. not king of the pirates
they won't do a sequel because oda will be too close to dead, if not dead already, by the time wan piss is finished

>>221399757
>they won't do a sequel
This did not stop them from shoving some things other wrote and drew into Toriyama face on his death bead and counting him touching the paper as him approving this as canon.

Or continuing to make dragon ball extra slop recon edition after his death.

>>221395423
Go back to /a/

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>>221399730
>Getting to Laugh Tale
How many episodes was this after the anime started in 1997?
1010 episodes?

>It's not about the One Piece retard
Now what the opening of the anime says.

For over what 300 episodes?


>Getting to Laugh Tale
This reads like a schizo breakdown if you say it in English to normies.


>Gol D. Roger
Do you not cringe saying this.
For over 400 episodes
>Gold Roger.
like pirate gold you know?

>Awchually guys it is GOL [SPACE] D Roger
>The D is magic!
Like cringe retcon retardation.
None of this crap was planed out!

> Before [INSERT NAME HERE] normal people didn't even believe it was real. Only after Whitebeard confirmed it existed, the world was convinced.
Really? This is not what the opening of the anime says.
https://youtu.be/lsEnySWKcKw?list=RDlsEnySWKcKw
>His words did this....
>....The great pirate era
Hmm

>This is a thing only pirates chase.
I think ED summarized it best
>One Piece is about pirates. Despite this, there is a significant lack of theft, pillaging, rape, wooden limbs, pirates, sodomy or mass executions, which automatically makes it shit.

>This is a thing only pirates chase.
Despite all of the priests who do not in the show....

>Gol D. Roger found it and laughed
A stupid element introduced 700 episodes and 20 years after the anime started!

>Gol D. Roger found it and laughed
You realize what is funny? A big pirate treasure chest and the only thing inside is 1 feather. Not a magical feather or anything only a feather from a normal seagull.

Like this joke:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3K6yTTY4K6I

I can imagine the treasure being a disappointing shit to every reader.
However the main point here is that others will recognize the one piece in universe.

>>221400096
>Go back to /a/
Cry more!

>Go back to /a/
Why? To only get
>/a/ - Anime & Manga
>Manga
>Read the manga!

>>221400160
Go back tranny

I legit don't understand how people can watch all these fucking episodes? Barely anything happens and the pacing is glacial to the point of ridiculous
>b-but that's SHONEN
Don't care. Macross and Evangelion weren't like this shit.

>>221397879
>To correct this Oda added basically DBZ where now devil powers are meaningless and haki wins and the guy with the bigger haki VS haki power level wins a figh
It's always been like this. Aside from Eneru, Luffy never won a fight because he was rubber. He just outstrengthed or outstamina'd his opponent.

>>221399227
There are only four map poneglyphs (called road poneglyphs) and they're red, so no, you can't just grab 4 random ones.

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>>221400840
>Luffy never won a fight because he was rubber.
Most of his fights he wins because he's rubber. He uses special techniques built around his devil fruit that enhance his strength. Therefore any fight he had where he won by a small margin means he would have lost without being rubber.
Especially after he develops 2nd Gear.
And later on it's revealed that his devil fruit is actually a zoan fruit and all zoans get enhanced strength and stamina by default. His strength was always unnatural.

>>221401272
>zoans get enhanced strength and stamina by default
Not in one's human form, like Luffy for most of the series.

>>221401295
He's never in human form. Being rubber IS the zoan form.

>>221401338
No, Gear 5 is his Zoan form. Besides, he was still super weak as a kid, Ace and Sabo blew him out of the water. If he was some super strength monster all the time, that wouldn't be the case.

>>221395423
We all know what the One Piece is. Its the friends we made along the way.

>>221401508
Gear 5 is his awakened form. Like Chopper's monster form.
But that's a good point about Ace and Sabo. I'm willing to concede that Luffy might not have gotten a zoan strength boost. His fruit is abnormal.

>>221401565
>His fruit is abnormal.
It really is. Seems to lack a hybrid form, unless Gear 4 counts, and it's the only Zoan we've seen that has such a strict time limit and such a massive draining impact on its user. I know the real reason is for the sake of balance, but still.

>>221401765
>it's the only Zoan we've seen that has such a strict time limit and such a massive draining impact on its user
Nah that's a side effect of using an awakened devil fruit. We see the same thing with other characters getting wiped out quickly by using their awakened devil fruit. So they hold it in reserve as their ace in the hole.

> Oda just writes whatever shit he feels like

I'm gonna push back on this one. OP is tightly structured. It's a meditation on the nature of freedom, and the trans thing is another facet of that.

A) Every arc has a micro theme. E.g. Orange Town is about "treasure", Syrup Village is about "honesty", Alabasta is the "friendship" arc, Thriller Bark is about "subordinates", etc. And the villains always embody the antithesis. E.g. Buggy thinks "treasure" means "gold and jewels". And Crocodile thinks friends are for losers. Which is why he keeps his identity a secret from his own employees.

B) There's a variety of macro themes that are recur across arcs. E.g. Dragon's speech at the end of the Loguetown about "dreams, inherited will, and the passage of time" are themes that continually get revisited and refined. E.g. the theme of inherited will is revisited with Roger, Hiriluk, Ace, and Whitebeard. But it's not just parallelism, because new layers of nuance are often added to each iteration. Also, Rocks is the antithesis of Roger, because his legacy was totally erased from the history books. And Kaido wants to avoid the same fate as Rocks. (If you're only on the Impel Down arc, you haven't gotten far enough to understand a lot of this, yet.)

C) The central theme is freedom. But it's not in a form that most people recognize. I keep trying to tell you guys in here that you don't actually understand kingship. But Oda gets it! There's a particular line where Luffy meets Rayleigh for the first time in Sabaody Archipelao, and Usopp asks Luffy what it would mean for him to be "king of the pirates". And Luffy says "to be the freest man on the seas". That phrasing is not an accident. It also summarizes a mountain of nuance, which is why that line is surrounded by 30 year's worth of manga.

D) Luffy's vision of freedom is meant to be juxtaposed against the tyranny of the WG, and the false freedom (i.e. anarchy) of BB. Luffy and BB in particular are mirror images. The first instance of this duality should have been apparent when you were introduced to BB during the Jaya Arc.

In context, Ivankov and Bon Clay are meant to embody the freedom of gender expression. The fact that they're HIDING in the walls of a PRISON is probably not an accident. So what you're picking up on, is that the trans-ness actually contributes to the narrative in a meaningful way. They're not just token characters. Additionally, the characters are more than just their gender. E.g. at the beginning of Alabasta, Bon Clay meets the strawhats for 5 minutes and they decide to become lifelong friends. This is idea of "durable friendships don't depend on time spent together" gets reinforced at the end, when Vivi asks whether she can still be friends with the crew, despite not knowing each other for very long. And the crew responds by showing off the X tattoo. And the depth of Bon Clay's friendship gets tested repeatedly as Bon Clay sacrifices himself throughout the Impel Down arc.

The trouble is, these themes aren't obvious at first. Their obviousness grow in a crescendo as the series goes on. But if you reread the earlier chapters in hindsight, the themes were always there from the beginning. Also, Oda gaslights you in various, subtle ways in the beginning.

>>221395423
Anime is gay and retarded. Shounen anime is REALLY gay and retarded.

>>221402980
>>221402996
It's a cartoon for 8 year olds

I read the first 200 or so chapters and enjoyed it a lot, because it's funny and has interesting characters and a lot of neat individual stories along the way. But friends who are into it big time always go on about how complex the worldbuilding is and how everything that's introduced pays off. I guess I'd have to read more to find out for myself what is going on, but from my perspective, it's just fun.

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I like one piece. It's like the autistic 40k of anime/manga where it's a bunch of stories that come together for a coherent plot.
One piece isn't too long. It's actually great but you are probably autistic if you enjoy it.

>>I will find the one piece
>I have no fucken idea what that even is!
But it's confirmed to exist multiple times.

Personally my favorite thing about One piece is that it takes place in basically a post apocalyptic dystopian hellscape ran by a world government that destroyed a much more advanced kingdom.

One piece might as well be a cork to drain most of the oceans. who fucking knows. really not that important as beating the power structure of the world government

>>221402786
Not to such a dramatic effect. Luffy becomes so powerless he literally can't do anything for minutes at a time, and even shrivels into an old man.

>>221395423
you might actually be too dumb for one piece, and that's really saying something, it's south america's favorite show

>>221396316
>Yea I quit after Alabasta.
>>221397252
>My HAKI power level is greater then yours!
hm, something isn't adding up anon, haki was introduced long after you find out about the final island

you're lying

>>221395423
Not knowing what the treasure is has been there since treasure island. X marks the spot, it doesn't tell you what's actually there you fucking idiot.

One piece fans be like it gets better after 1000 episodes, trust

>>221397879
>I remind you this guy exists!
but i thought you quit after alabasta?
how would you know who he is?

>>221403412
This is a weird cope because it starts out good, I dunno where this idea it takes dozens of a hundred episodes to get good.

>>221403412
>One piece fans be like it gets better after 1000 episodes, trust
Definitely something I stopped watching after skypiea. Too formulaic, it's tolerable in manga form but still incredibly slow.

It is amusing how the biggest One Piece haters either admit to never watching it or pretend like they watched it, but get so many basic facts wrong it's clear they never watched a single episode.

>>221403465
OP is just off-topic trolling until he gets a vacation, he needs friends

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>>221403431
>stopping just before the most acclaimed arc of the series
Yeah that's right. I'm talking about DAVY BACK FIGHT BABY.

>>221395620
I think it's fine to be into One Piece, but I would just read it instead of watching it. The issues are only like 20 pages. It's wild they take each one and stretch it into a full episode.

>>221403722
I still read it anon, I just couldn't stand the anime anymore. Some people like the anime and I don't mind that they do, it just wasn't for me.

>>221395423
Well he's a pirate nigga. It's supposed to be a "romantic" story in the non-love kind of way.

>>221395558
>believabilitie
Nigger gave up on the word and just wrote whatever

It's dumb Jap crap that appeals to browns who inherently lack depth

>>221395423
The One Piece is just moot's tripname password.

>>221395423
He cute though.

>>221400977
>There are only four map poneglyphs (called road poneglyphs) and they're red, so no, you can't just grab 4 random ones.
OK....
Is this knowledge 30% of the population have?
10%?
1%?
0.00001%?
????

See the problem?

>They are hecking indestructible
Can you not paint some random ones red? Are they immune to paint now?

>>221395423
It's almost like it's some kind of fantasy story or something.

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>>221403070
>But it's confirmed to exist multiple times.
Yet no one knows what that is.

>But it's confirmed
In a universe where scammers and fraudsters (see fake strawhats) exist....
See the problem?

>>221403375
>hm, something isn't adding up anon, haki was introduced long after you find out about the final island
OK.

1) Watch One Piece.
2) Quit after Alabasta
3)Internet memes and videos talk about haki.
4) 3 Google searches and you know all about it
5) Go back to the show at punk hazard (because I am not fucken watching 900 episodes to catch up!)
6) All that changed can be explained in a 15 minute video
7) Quit again
8) Get back at whole cake island
9) Quit again

What is so hard to understand?

>>221403420
>but i thought you quit after alabasta?
I did see>>221405852
>how would you know who he is?
I did see 1 episode (or was it 5 or 10 one piece pacing am I right!) where he tries to scam people in a village and gets confronted.

> i thought
Was it not before alabasta that one episode?
Like the give away was that they(world government) did not have a picture of one of the crew was it not after usop joined or something?

Who the fuck cares I do not keep detailed logs of what episodes I watched I remember seeing him.

>>221403412
>One piece fans be like it gets better after 1000 episodes, trust
Real question who watches that shit?

>after 1000 episodes
There is a reason why I quit and then started in the recent-ish (because I am not reading subtitles in my anime! Especially one piece!!!!!!!!!!!!) arc.

Pacing is literally torture!

>>221395423
>nooooo you can't just go on a quest for something undefined you have to to search for material objects of quanitifable value noooooo
This guy will never know the romance of crossing the horizon into the unknown

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>>221395423
>SAY IT!!!

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>>221405936
INTELLIGENCE IS GENETIC AND CERTAIN ETHNICITIES ARE NATURALLY LESS INTELLIGENT THAN OTHERS
IQ CORRELATES WITH THE ABILITY TO PLAN, TO UNDERSTAND THE CONSEQUENCES OF YOUR ACTIONS AND YOUR ABILITY TO EMPATHIZE
LOWER IQ IS A PREDICTOR AND CORRELATE OF CRIMINALITY
CERTAIN ETHNICITIES ARE MORE DISPOSED TO VIOLENT CRIME THAN OTHERS
DESPITE MAKING UP ONLY 13 % OF THE POPULATION, FISHMEN...

>>221403465
>It is amusing how the biggest One Piece haters
OP here I am not really a hater.

What i like in one piece
>The villains
The vials are one of the most evil and despicable characters and their evil actions make sense. There are countless examples of this even the captain Kuros whose motivation is literally
>I want money and to retire for the rest of my life
Is a motivation that you do not see in almost anything these days.

Who was the villain in gold armor with all the gadgets whose entire plan was to pretend that he needs help and then back stab the people who help him? The one when they recruited sanji from? Yea it is simplistic however it is very realistic.

Ceaser clown is basically one of the most evil characters in fiction
>Experiment on children
>Addict them to a drug that makes them come back for their cocaine candy
And all of this makes sense. It is brilliant and great and everything.

The debatable part is that one piece depicts the greats monsters in all of fiction as relatable goofballs who you can make friends with like they did with ceaser clown.

What is irritating in one piece are the heroes who are all trash.
Usop is a new level of shit and the ED article nails it.

Sanjio horny jokes make you cringe.
Zoro putting the sword into his mouth makes him look like a retard.

I think the best ones are Niko Rorbin and Nami. Luffy is generic however also a stupid retards woes actions are schizo shit
>No I insist you join my crew!
>NO!

The Age of sail punk looks ugly.

However the pasing literally breaks peopel!
LITERALLY BREAKS THEM!

I do not care how good something is if it takes 50 episodes for one fight to conclude where it is
>You bastard! You did XYZ!
>Looks at one another
>Punches thrown
>Fight over

What broke me in whole cake island was how Lufffy was standing and being upset at Sanji for what 15 episodes?

That is 1 episode or 2 MAX make it 4 episodes for one piece.
This breaks people! 200% speed will not fix it!

>>221395423
honestly agreed, and the series gets worse. I have a roommate who watches this crap every week and I've never come across an anime that's simultaneously so easy to pick up on and also so ridiculously over-complicated.

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>>221406054
It's not all that complicated though, it's just "good guy punches bad guy"

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>>221403958
>Well he's a pirate nigga. It's supposed to be a "romantic" story in the non-love kind of way.
This treasure plot gets literally cucked by treasure planet!
Literally.


>Captain flint the legendary pirate who no one knows how he managed to steal all the gold!
>WOW I am so obsessed with captain flint mom!
>Oh I am in poverty and lost my home
>Hey this guy has a map to the treasure of captain flint! This MONEY can fix my problems and we can live comfortably for the rest of our lives!!!!!
>Lets go!
>Adventure starts!
>Arrive at treasure planet!
>The map explains that the treasure is INSIDE the planets core
>It is literally a ocean of gold!
>Everyone knew this!
>The secret of Captain Flints success was that he found some ancient alien machine that can open portals to every corner of the galaxy
>This is how he managed to hit and run

All of this makes SENSE!
>I will get ????? to become the (?Pirate king?)
Does not.
Also an animated movie for children!

Also treasure planet actually has real pirates and real piracy.
Like all the pirates are criminals who commit robbery on the high seas.

Now whatever the fuck one piece is pushing.
When was the last time Luffy robbed a civilian vessel for treasure?
Or whatever the fuck some of the other criminals are doing.
Because bandits exist in this universe. And are a distinct classification.
>I will become a land pirate!
No sweaty that is called banditry and you are a bandit not a pirate!

OH fuck I forgot treasure planet literally rapes one piece.
In the movie there is a technological/magical orb that is the map to the treasure planet.

The anime would make infinitely more sense if luffy was gifted or got this techno-magical thing that points to the direction of the one piece at the start of the show.

>Wow I have this think that points to somewhere where the one piece is!
Or if he got a techno-magic part of it and needed to collect all 8 of them for it to work or something.
>FOR CHILDREN
So is this movie fagot!

>>221403765
>It's wild they take each one and stretch it into a full episode.
What surprises me is that this kind of show has an audience who did not quit and made the anime get canceled...

>I just couldn't stand the anime
I mean I can accept 2 episodes of them standing around if something emotional and important happened like the death of 1 character (Arlong Park).

However the pacing gets so bad in the most bullshit places that I can not stand it.
> read it
Here is the problem I like to relax and reading is not something that relaxes me it is cognitive work.

I got into the anime because of TV not really feeling like reading words now.

>>221395423
you are a woman

>>221406190
So how do you feel about him having 3 of the 4 Road Poneglyphs and only needing one more?

>>221405753
>>They are hecking indestructible
>Can you not paint some random ones red? Are they immune to paint now?
Did you not watch the fucking show? Even having one is very dangerous as the world government will wipe your island from existence if you try to decipher it or something along those lines.
Does the show need to spoonfeed you so much? Connect some of the dots, quite literally.

>>221406247
One chapter of one piece has less than a paragraph of words, you just sound like a low IQ nigger

>>221406054
>honestly agreed,
Thanks
>so ridiculously over-complicated.
How is it over complicated?

It is very simple however the pacing is what makes people run away.
They should make a new anime who fixes the pacing and has no filler.

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>>221406274
>3 of the 4 Road Poneglyphs and only needing one more?
When did this happen? What episode?

It make more sense if he did have the map from the start.
Even if only he believes in it.

The show has magical navigation snow globe compasses already.
Make it a back story how Shanks or whoever did give it to him as a gift to keep safe or something.

>Poneglyphs
Once again I have to give credit to treasure planet they made the map a magical sphere something that you can keep in your pocket and move around. Same for the dragon balls.

It makes more sense and creates better narrative drama potential then a gigantic cube.

Also you did forget that in treasure planet they know what the treasure is it is lots of gold nothing more.
And they want this gold to fix their problems,like the protagonists mom got her home burned by pirates and they need the money to rebuild it.

That is all none of
>If I have the one piece I will be declared the pirate king!
Retardation!

However treasure planet is a classic adventure story where the protagonists are not magic DBZ characters who solo every enemy. They need to run away from the evil pirates chasing them and this creates conflict.

Also this is a perfect example of
>It is made for children
Retardation. I hated it ever since I did hear it on the internet because when I was a child in pre school my early memory is how the teacher masically told us a bullshit story every time and I noticed the bullshit and how it is ilogical,

Do not make children's media who is retarded and nonsensical!
>REEE you are autistic
How about you are retarded and have brain damage + lead poisoning fat american?
Because this is a better theory.

>>221406278
>Did you not watch the fucking show?
Sorry.
I quit 800 episodes before that happened or was shown. Blame the pacing!
>watch
I am not watching 1100 episodes where 700 of them are watching paint dry to get that 0.0001% talking point that is relevant!

> as the world government will wipe your island from existence
OK.
Coming from the Straw Hats who are making the world government more and more angry.
What is even this cope.

>Even having one is very dangerous
OK.
You did not explain how they are immune to getting painted red.

> is very dangerous
Impersonating a pirate who is hunted by the world government is also very dangerous yet people do it in the anime!

>>221406483
I asked you one question and you refused answer it, going instead on a massive rant about something else.
> that you can keep in your pocket and move around. Same for the dragon balls.
You know they don't keep the poneglyphs around and just took rubbings off the text so they can easily transport them, right? Oh, you don't. Because you don't actually engage with the material, you just talk about it instead

>>221406550
>I asked you one question and you refused answer it, going instead on a massive rant about something else.
Oh I see you failed the retard test!

>[I literally debunked myself]
WOW simply WOW.
Why did you debunk yourself so hard?

Me:
>What proves that they have the one piece?
You:
>Umm there is this map
ME:
>How is this proof can not anyone draw on on paper and say they are the pirate king now?

You:
>Nooo you heckling do not understand they are magic cubes of adamentium
After I question this
>Awchually that is literally a paper with words on it that anyone can fake
>Proof that it is the real paper? TRUST ME BRO!

>the material
I am not watching the paint drying pacing of this anime that is going on for 28 years dude!
I tried and I did give up!
>GO READ
This is /tv/
>GO READ
How about I watch something else instead?

>>221406624
>massive rant with no coherence once again
I think I'm just going to leave this thread now, I hope you get the help you need

>>221406624
No one who posts in this style produces anything of value

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The most baffling development of One Piece is the character bloat. Water 7 is objectively the best arc because it focuses the most on the crew. You get:
>Robin's kidnapping and backstory. (Saul waiting for the last possible moment to ask what island he was on was full retard though)
>Franky joining the crew
>Going Merry and Usopp. Putting some stakes onto Luffy's ability to handle the crew.
>kino moments one after another
Nothing tops that afterwards. Why should I care about the 50 billion samurais and their OC donut steel former shogun? It doesn't mean anything.

>>221395423
99.999% of people don't know what one piece is. It's explicitly bait. People assign what they wanted to it.

Luffy is just like Naruto but he says
>I'm gonna kick your ass!
Instead of
>Believe it!
And they're both like Goku because they can actually fight but prefer to act dumb as fuck.

>>221395932
>'that kids destiny', said by an old codger who knows who: kids father is, kids grandpa is, kids idol is
>this is repeated like 4 times by old codgers in the first 120~ chapters
Luffy has one of like 4 known fruits based on a deity.

>>221399227
>There is no benefit to having rubber abilities and haki.
Adding armament haki to Luffy's rubber attack abilities has been pretty effective.

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>>221395423

>How will Luffy know

Luffy is a moron anon. Did you not figure that out after a thousand episodes? He relies on other people to do most of his thinking for him.

>>221403070
>One piece might as well be a cork to drain most of the oceans
Keklol.

>Imu wants to drown everyone
>AK wanted to pull the plug that Imu made (some time during like 2nd age? when ever the slow sea rise started)
>pulling the plug brings back the old landmasses, where the fuck does the water go?
>there's already two known large holes that don't fill, and in fact made the seas rise
>we hollow earth/planet is actually a massive fountain?

What does Imu win by drowning everyone (assume he'd kill off his useless idiots on RL to complete the job). He's powerful enough to have been going around killing every island the last 800 years.
>oh vey, join WG or we invade, enslave or murder everyone
So just like, don't have nations join, OG 20 should have been in a position to play 'kill everyone not us' (except like elbaf, wano, zuneshia, maybe a few other who allied with AK). I guess they did achieve that to a degree, the 4 blues are 99% under WG banner, it's GL nations that don't always join.

>>221395932
The real treasure was the friends they made along the way.

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>"One Piece Sucks"
>100+ replies
Anon, you genius

>>221408018
>Luffy is a moron anon.
I find retard protagonists annoying.

>Luffy is a moron anon.
I quote myself:
>How will others know?

>And even if you want to make him a retard presumably other people are also after the one piece. Do they know? Does anyone know?

>See the show has zero internal logic and feels fake. The world feels fake to a unimaginable degree especially that the narrator talks about this great age of piracy and the one piece others want....
Is that even canon???

>Because this is not your starwars bitching how a knife vanished in 1 frame of a movie the entire world is presumably obsessed with this one piece treasure.... However outside of the narrator talking about it.....
Is that even canon???

The intro shows like 12 ships going out after he told about his treasure and the narrator talks about a age of piracy... So is that canon?

>>221397306
>Want to relax
>Do not want to read more text want others to speak to you
ok you're just baiting at this point
reading is far more relaxing than watching

on the luffy question
he is just an impressable, hyperactive young boy
in universe, roger started a pirate golden age where apparently every third person is some kind of sailor + shanks is his big role model
add to that he's living on some small bum-fuck island, what else is he going to do? run the bar and never see the guy again?
and the one piece is, at least at first, understood to be some great treasure, if you're becoming a criminal anyway, why not go for gold?

wano just did permanent damage to the series, and even though its getting better now again the stench is still there

>>221409264
>reading is far more relaxing than watching
He says this on /tv/ !

>>221409386
the arc is way to long and has problems but the biggest issue is the wano fans

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>>221409264
>on the luffy question
See: >>221406190
And See: >>221406483
And see: >>221396316

Treasure planet literally annihilates one piece.
And no it is not a small part of the anime this shit is beaten into you every episode in the intro.

>he is just an impressable, hyperactive young boy
No he is retarded as fuck.
And this is irritating.

If you want to into a DBA style anime and away from the shit loads of gold (why would luffy need gold?) remember that Dragon Ball exists you can make the one piece literally like a wishing lamp. To avoid what made DB retarded and gimped the balls into resurrection orbs you can make it have a 800 year recharge time or be one time only.

Example there are 10 wishes on the lamp Rogger used up 2 of them 8 are left.

Rogger could have wished for a mountain of gold and something else.
Luffies original wish can be
>Genie tell everyone in the world that I am the pirate king at the same time using a painting of me to demonstrate
And it make perfect sense.
He can bribe his crew with the rest of the wishes
>Nami you can wish for the mountain of gold
>Robin: I want to know what happened during the void century
etc.

And unlike DB who literally in the first arc blew the use of the balls it being at the end of a long adventure can make it interesting.

>No it is Shōnen shit!
So is Dragno Ball and Hunter x Hunter
Doese not mean it can not be mind blowingly good
https://youtu.be/Hu5pKoM5qyc?t=19

>>221409432
yeah, i think so, personally
*actually* watching of course, not having it in the background while doomscrolling
also a bit generalized, there are hard to read books, no doubt
but manga, especially stuff like one piece, is very easy to digest
they're picture books for children and young adults after all
>>221409682
>Treasure planet literally annihilates one piece.
yes? what kind of argument is that lol

>If you want to into a DBA style anime and away from the shit loads of gold (why would luffy need gold?)
maybe i wasn't clear enough, luffy doesn't give a fuck about the gooold (or at least not further than being able to buy food and pimp his ship with it), he just wants to be
>le very best
like goku, naruto, ash, etc
even gon from hunter x hunter (they actually share the same thin veneer of the father figure impetus here, gon wanting to find him, luffy wanting to make true of his promise to him)
and being the best pirate in universe means getting the wanted highscore and snatching the one piece

>what if wan piss was dragonballz
ok

>>221395423
It's about the faustian spirit

>>221395620
>Who the fuck watches this trash and why was it not canceled?
Anon, shonen is what little kids watch on tv while eating their cereal before going to school. This isn't a show for an adult to bother with.

>>221409881
>>what if wan piss was dragonballz
>ok
I see you ignored hunter x hunter.

The point is the show needs why the retarded fuck wants to get the thing he wants.

>even gon from hunter x hunter
Lets see:
>I want to become a hunter
Why
>Because that is a cool thing everyone wants and it has benefits
How are you going to get it?
>The hunter exam
See logical.

Also:
>Lets do the tournament in the city
Why?
>Because I have nothing better to do!

>I want to learn Nen
Why?
>Because powers are cool and I just learned it exists!
See logical.

VS luffy
>Get one piece
>????
>I have no idea what it is or where
>?????
>???????
>????
>I become the pirate king!

>dragonball (NO Z)
Lets see
>I want to collect the dragon balls
Why?
>This girl pulled me into this adventure

>I want to collect the dragon balls
Why?
>I want to resurrect someone who was killed

>I want to collect the dragon balls
Why?
>I want to wish for eternal youth!
See logical.

>dragonballzZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ
It already fucken is with HAKI! You clown. The point is that if you have someone who can annihilate a town (Luffy) worrying about getting money becomes irrelevant. Also Luffy does not run from dangerous people who chase him unless Oda decides it otherwise. So you can not have a copy past of real pirate adventurers like treasure planet not Shonen with boats!

>yes? what kind of argument is that lol
Because that movie is logical and about a pirate treasure unlike Shonen with boats (One piece).

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>>221409881
>they're picture books for children and young adults after all
Yes and when I come home sometimes I feel like my legs will explode and my arms will fall off. So I want to eat something while I watch something or lay down and watch something.

This also excludes me from enjoying video games however so is life.

>for children
Do children collapse when they come home and feel like their arms will fall off?

>for children
Do you know Al Bundy?
Do you know his viewpoint on life?

>God I wish a maniac would come up and shoot p the store!
>I wish the world would explode!
That is basically adult life.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJGDN3_LyQE

>>221395423
in other words it's anime

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>anime
grow up
watch kdramas

>>221395423
no lies detected

>>221395423
You lack of the spirit of adventure

>>221410279
You lack the spirit of logic!
See: >>221406190
And See: >>221406483

How to stretch a 150-300 episodes concept into infinity: the chinese cartoon

>>221395486
>>221395620
Is One Pace not any good?

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>dbz
old stuff is amazing, sexo female design, new stuff is cringe
>naruto
never cared for it
>bleach
never cared for it
>soul eater
never cared for it
>fma
amazing
>one piece
never cared for it, sexo female design
>neon genesis
amazing, but don't think you can compare them

>>221410558
you're missing out, the first three arcs of Naruto are god tier, particularly the chuunin exam and pursuit arc, and the soul society and hueco mundo arcs of bleach are also right up there

also pre-shippuden naruto is really well animated

>>221410533
One Pace is great I think it only really starts dragging in the arcs you'd figure like fishman island and dressrosa.

>>221395423
It was kinda enjoyable before the timeskip

>>221410043
>I see you ignored hunter x hunter.
nope
see:
>even gon from hunter x hunter (they actually share the same thin veneer of the father figure impetus here, gon wanting to find him, luffy wanting to make true of his promise to him)

>Also:
>Lets do the tournament in the city
>Why?
>Because I have nothing better to do!

>I want to learn Nen
>Why?
>Because powers are cool and I just >learned it exists!
so you didn't even watch hxh? lmao, go figure

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>>221398234
>>221400840
>>221410043

Haki shouldn't have been a raw strength multiplier, at least it should only affect living beings not rocks (The size advantage of giants is basically nullified in the story, which is bizarre given Nidhoggr's importance). Seastone not being more widespread is wasted potential (perhaps black blades could have been seastone)

>>221397501
What faggotry post this encapsulates. Whether or not this is parody, I'm really impressed.

>>221410651
Dressrosa was painful but the finale was worth it.

>>221410860
The anime however ruined it by turning it into a 2 minute long beam struggle instead of Luffy decisively finishing off Doffy with one big attack

>>221395423
One of the stupidest complaints about an anime I've ever heard. You're literally too dumb for childrens cartoons think about that

>>221407978
The more powerful he gets the less sense it makes that no one in shank’s crew ate it. Is fish pussy really that powerful?

>>221411021
They're on a mission to steal a random fruit, we don't know what he told any of them. Or for how long they actually held it. We've also now got the whole 'zoan's can kinda choose who eats them' bit.