>I'll give you lessons on to be an editor, because I was your boss once>Well you were, but are no longer, how'd that happen?How do you respond without sounding mad?
>>221409617You don't. Reporter messed up big time by bringing that upTruth is these guys probably shouted at each other for a few minutes at the station, got the anger out of their systems, and moved on. Maybe even had a laugh about it. Old guys are like that
those ties are war crimes
>>221409617Honestly this obsession with quick gotchas and clippable comebacks is just cancer and extremely pajeet-shorts coded. When you grow up you're supposed to realize that just because you "won" an exchange doesn't mean anything was actually won, you're not getting the best out of a subject out of a conversation. This is especially true when dealing with your parents and close frienships, but also applies to public conversations with strangers and whoever really. Especially since these comebacks often signal that the exchange is over.It's honestly just exhausting to watch and making society dumber and dumber.
>>221410121just sounds like you lose a lot bro.
>>221410187my jerk store line would have killed if I just thought about it sooner
>>221410121You say this because gotchas obliterate your entire worldview.
>>221410121>When you grow up you're supposed to realize that just because you "won" an exchange doesn't mean anything was actually won, you're not getting the best out of a subject out of a conversationI've never lost an argument online and I'm not about to quit
>>221410187Arguing gets people no where and just makes everyone more hostile, nobody learns anything, and no progress is made. You try to hit people head on in a confrontational tone and they will just turtle up and not consider anything you are saying. Being neutral and trying to understand where people are coming from, even if you despise their view, gets you a lot further honestly.
>>221410214>not about to quitYou're about to lose right now. Wanna know why? Because you're a loser! Hahaha! Fuck, you're too good at this. I concede.
>>221410250>Arguing gets people no where and just makes everyone more hostile, nobody learns anything, and no progress is made. You try to hit people head on in a confrontational tone and they will just turtle up and not consider anything you are saying. Being neutral and trying to understand where people are coming from, even if you despise their view, gets you a lot further honestly.
>>221410121Go on anon. Tell us what zinger shut you up.
>>221409617>Jane, you ignorant slut
>>221410292Exactly. Guy made a career out of animosity and it killed him. All it took was one person with thin skin and very poor impulse control.
>>221410312>>221410210The thing that really made it true for me was when I see my siblings treating my dad like shit because he gets flustered when in heated arguments and they zero in on a single thing he gets wrong and maneuver it so that the rest of the things he's right about gets pushed to the side. Then now that they have kids that's gotten even worse where they treat them like hostages where only if he doesn't voice any complaint or demand about anything and only shows up to them 1,5h drive to babysit, and only on short notice so he can't plan for shit, only then does he get to see them, otherwise they ignroe his messages and calls until he's fully compliant again. Knowing I can make him crumble in the same way and have to get away with shit I stopped doing it, and since then I have seen this reflected a lot more in media clips where people really get into this no attention span zinger shit with no intent to actually mine the best the person has to offer.
>>221410250Arguments are worth having if there's an audience. Arguing privately is pointless.
>>221410121This website is unusable because of indians and bots. Been that way for some time now
>>221409617Reminder that they became frenz again when they both had to work together to cover 9/11
>>221410441>asking leftist basic question is animosityThis is why debates are actual waste of time.
>>221410655I can't scroll X anymore without seeing slop from India or Nigeria. People are begging for the geoblock feature. It's happening everywhere. The level of discourse has dropped ever since nons found the internet.
>>221410447The whole internet and social media is 4chan now. Just look at any popular tiktok bait video. Everyone is in the comments trying to one up and own each other.
>>221410441>it killed himno. a tranny killed him, not his own words
>>221410447Fascinating.Consider suicide retard.
>>221410683>>221410724>Act like an asshole>Get shot>WOOOOOW DUDE
>>221410724The tranny was just an obvious retard patsy
>>221410312>The jerk store called, they're running out of you
>>221410441His ultimate achievement was shocking the public out of thinking that you could have a conversation with the left, because they’re not interested in it, they just want power at any cost. >animosityYes, telling black men to help raise their offspring and that mentally ill men shouldn’t be allowed into women’s locker rooms is so cruel and hateful. Eat a fucking dick, you and I both know that you’ve never actually watched any of his debates.
>>221409617The guy on the left died recently
>>221410850>WE WANT SOCIALISM>How?>REEEEEEE YOU ARE GENOCIDING MEEEEEEThis is why debates are waste of time. Only way is to disenfranchise, deport and defund.
>>221412052Exactly. Cut them off from their money, get a boot back on their commie necks, and watch the west sort itself out within a decade.
>>221410850Telling harsh truths is apparently “acting like an asshole” now. This is what a generation of parents trying to be their kids’ buddies instead of parents has done.
>>221410121Yes. Reddit has a whole culture of that. And when you're arguing with someone they just try to go for the 'epic bomb' moment or whatever.And yeah it happens a lot on here too, like the idiots responding to you. Not only do they do that, but they aren't even clever enough to come up with new material so it's just tired old sawhorses>durr she's not gonna fuck you bro HAHAHAHAH
The TV networks are so stupid. These two old farts bickering for an hour would have been more entertaining than any news broadcast. They should have thrown them on a TV show together and let it rip.
>>221410714That's how the internet was supposed to be. You were never supposed to take this shit seriously. Taking internet shit seriously wasn't even a thing until Facebook came along. Now retards put their entire lives on the internet and care about their internet rep.
>>221409617These two guys also broke the 9/11 attacks before CNN, ABC, NBC and Fox News.https://youtu.be/h421s9c_2YM?si=1_nFiCjQelPZFeDs
>>221410121when the 'gotcha' is reminding someone that they in fact WERE your boss, exactly as they said, and they no longer are, it goes beyond being a 'clippable comeback', that's a total demolition of character.
>>221410447okay but sometimes that "one single thing" they got wrong is something their entire argument hinges upon and nothing else they say matters beyond that. My stepmother hated that she couldn't prevent herself from letting slip some defensive bullshit that leads right into her terrible behaviour, usually which caused the argument to begin with.Maybe your dad shouldn't have been starting heated arguments if he was so bad at them.
>>221413248yeah i lived through the antibullying push in schools here in canada in the early 00's. some kids that could have been perfectly productive citizens with a bit of behavioural correction instead got coddled by teachers, never learned how to fit in or deal with other people.One such guy who would naruto run with kids 4 years younger in school had his right to do so staunchly protected by teachers. he got a big head after speaking at an assembly about bullying, thought that made him above the rest of us that, despite being weird in our own ways, managed to all get along for the most part. This ruined his entire high school experience as the two kids our age who tolerated him couldn't any longer and stopped associating with him once teen years demanded a bit more social pruning. He was a weird loner all through high school, untouchable because antibullying meant you'd get serious shit for calling him weird, so he was ignored outright. Now he's got no teeth, creeps around kids at schools, and has offered to sell me drugs on more than one occasion when he recognized me out in public. i say "now" but i haven't seen him in a couple years so he either moved or died, i guess
>>221414239>anon, don't put any personal info online>don't put any personal info online, anon>remember, don't put any personal info online*farmville needs your personal info to proceed*>haha anon is so strange, he's the only person i know who doesn't have all his personal info online
>>221410121Plato used flexmaxxing and frame-mogging as a counterpoint against his interlocutors in debates.Cicero's second most famous speech was just calling Mark Anthony a drunkard broke tranny.Those are considered some of the most important orators in western canon.
>>221409617im such a pathetic virgin that whenever i see this video i think of the woman standing there in a robe and how hot it is
>>221411704isn't the consensus that it was his middle eastern views regarding a certain genocide that got him offed?
>>221411616>qatari government has deposited $0.25 to your account
>>221414522That's true. There are also a lot of people who absolutely despise Cicero for this reason and stand with Julius Caesar and gang. It was likely effective in its time too, just like these gotcha clips, don't make them good on a deeper level.
>>221414297yes, that's quite common, and it's important to drag people back to that point constantly if that's the case, often people abuse that though and as I said catch on to another minor inconsistensy and just hammer that, and then the person who isn't that great at keeping thoughts straight in their head just start faltering and it gets jumbled and then the other guy goes in for the kill and just keeps hammering it and whenever I see that I just tune out.
>>221414692congratulations you're straight
