Watched this last night. So just make a movie where everyone is cool, casual, and competent and it just works? You mean characters dont have to obsess over identity, trauma, and healing???
>>221409909Yah, the 90s were like that. Competency over identity. It is really worth diving into that era for an extended period of time just to absorb it.
>>221409909My favorite Star Trek film.
>>221409909best jack ryan portrayal, too
>>221409909these are what are referred to as "dad films"
>>221410131Totally. Baldwin actually nailed it.
>>221409909Tom Clancy's novels are all connected. They are all very grounded in reality. The Sum of All Fears is about Israel nuking an american city.Hence the Jack Ryan series immediately discrediting them after Tom Clancy died.
>>221409909>only women roles in the film are background characters, his daughter, and the stewardess Less women = better film.
>>221410138Only people on SSRIs use phrases like that.
>>221410184Um, I saw that movie and it was the nazis that nuked America!
>>221410184>The Sum of All Fears is about Israel nuking an american city.>>221410196The book is Palestinians (w/ aid from an East German nuclear guy). The movie is some nebulous "Far-right" white group.still waiting for a Debt of Honor movie with an angry jap flying into congress.
>>221410184I read Rainbow Six recently. Awesome book. I think I am going to read all the Clancy novels. Its like Clancy's works are competency porn.
>>221410302Rainbow Six is excellent, Red Storm Rising is my favorite Clancy book of all time. I personally didn't care to read anymore of the Jack Ryan Jr books or anything made after Clancy's passing but you might enjoy them.
>>221409909I tihnk that is a McTiernan thing. That guy loves competent, capable characters. i think that is why his films are so rewatchable, because competence and ability ae fun to watch. Think about his big three films>Hunt for the red october>Die hard>PredatorEveryone is competent. So the stakes are, who is more capable and clever. Predator: everyone in the group is a competent soldier. Every henchman in Die Hard is a dangerous or more so than John McClane. Its really actually cool, i never really thought of it until I read this thread.fuck i used a lot of c-word alliteration lol
>>221409909I remember watching this the first time when I was a kid and was completely enamored with the plot. And then i watched it as an adult and was shocked by how many kino actors are in it. Also read the book like a billion times. Not even a Tom Clancy guy. Just a good fucking story on its own.
>>221410494Yah, I have heard the same thing. Like read Clancy's novels from the 80s and 90s and dont go beyond that. I started reading Red October last night, even though I have seen the film so many times, and somehow it seems fun and fresh.
>>221410011Here is a shower thought I had recently: The 90s had an external conformity which allowed the development of internal individuality. 2020s has external individuality, but an internal conformity. Its like the classic argument about for-and-against school uniforms. Or its like an inversion of "the mask", which is about a person having to live with an external mask to fit in, but having a deep, inner personality. Now its like people have to put on a psychological mask, and hide behind some shallow external individuality (dress casually, use pronouns, color your hair whatever color you want!).
>>221411416The novel of Red October is really good, the Soviet/US politics are a little more in-depth and interesting in the book as well which I enjoyed. By the way, If you liked John Clark in Rainbow Six read 'Without Remorse', you'll like him even more.
>>221411492You're explaining persona vs sincerity. "External conformity" is better known as order.People weren't walking around looking for holes to poke into the functioning systems out of spite.>2020s has external individuality, but an internal conformity.It has neither, no one is an individual. The degree to which even the 90's kids were individualistic is debatable, but these days forget it. Everyone is a walking advertisement for their favorite psyop. As far as internal conformity, that with which they've conformed was given to them externally. They're telling an internal lie top themselves in order to pretend the external isn't incorrect or repulsive (it is, objectively so)
>I would have liked to have seen Montana... :(
