[a / b / c / d / e / f / g / gif / h / hr / k / m / o / p / s / t / u / v / vg / vm / vmg / vr / vrpg / vst / w / wg] [i / ic] [r9k / s4s / vip] [cm / hm / lgbt / y] [3 / aco / adv / an / bant / biz / cgl / ck / co / diy / fa / fit / gd / hc / his / int / jp / lit / mlp / mu / n / news / out / po / pol / pw / qst / sci / soc / sp / tg / toy / trv / tv / vp / vt / wsg / wsr / x / xs] [Settings] [Search] [Mobile] [Home]
Board
Settings Mobile Home
/tv/ - Television & Film

Name
Spoiler?[]
Options
Comment
Verification
4chan Pass users can bypass this verification. [Learn More] [Login]
File[]
  • Please read the Rules and FAQ before posting.

08/21/20New boards added: /vrpg/, /vmg/, /vst/ and /vm/
05/04/17New trial board added: /bant/ - International/Random
10/04/16New board for 4chan Pass users: /vip/ - Very Important Posts
[Hide] [Show All]


Janitor acceptance emails will be sent out over the coming weeks. Make sure to check your spam folder!


[Advertise on 4chan]


File: 02WONDER-superJumbo.jpg (595 KB, 2048x1475)
595 KB JPG
>is the only successful female superhero movie in your path
How did /ourGal/ do it?
>>
strong piss stream
>>
>>221432509
she was supported by the right people if you know what I mean
>>
>>221433043
Republicans?
>>
File: 1780210924115882.webm (1.86 MB, 400x720)
1.86 MB
1.86 MB WEBM
>>221432509
How many Billies it make?
>>
>>221433123
Brie is NOT cute
>>
>>221433043
>fast and the furious beach scene
they really tried to sell us on missus skeletal being a bombshell...
>>
>>221433138
No she isn´t. She is hatefuck territory though.
>>
>>221432509
the movie sucks and gal gadot is ugly by the way
>>
>>221432509
She’s a member of the chosen people
>>
File: I am doing the acting.webm (1.4 MB, 1280x530)
1.4 MB
1.4 MB WEBM
>>221432509
I cannot believe what you are saying to me right now
>>
>>221432509
>Know what happens to a toad when it's struck by lighting?
the x-men chicks were fairly famous
>>
Lots of things
>first female-led superhero movie released at the height of capeshit mania
>normie social landscape was also somewhat sympathetic to women at that time (around the time of #MeToo)
>Wonder Woman character was one of the few standouts liked by the audience in the otherwise dogshit Batman v Superman movie
>despite what 4chan homos say, many men find Gal Gadot attractive

>>221433123
This bitch just rode the hype leading up to Endgame. Marvel could've released a 2 hour video of her shitting diarrhea at the same time (1 month before Endgame) and slapped a post-credit scene on it and it would still have made a profit.
>>
It came out at the height of Super Hero Hype
Gal is hot. Might not be the correct body type for Wonder Woman, but attractive enough.
Snyder was not a proven hack, yet. So no one really minded his style of movie.
There was hope that DC could reach the same level Marvel had.
>>
>>221433282
>>221433310
Also Wonder Woman is a character everyone knows
>>
>>221433338
So is Supergirl
>>
File: avg64u.jpg (117 KB, 783x500)
117 KB JPG
>remain the only good female superhero adaptations
>>
>>221433282
>Gal Gadot attractive
Shit opinion forced by viral marketing. Same with people who swear Sweeny is beautiful (at least she, unlike Gadot, has a body and can talk)
>>
The first wonder woman movie was so fucking dull, boring, and ugly though
I remembered being so burned out by Suicide Squad that I was just not going to see it but the reviews were good so I went and it was just bad
Like if someone was trying to make a knockoff version of the first captain America movie without violating copyright laws
>>
File: 1372052164042.gif (2.31 MB, 390x277)
2.31 MB GIF
>>221433529
>No, you see, no one would find a skinny supermodel type hot!

>>221433351
Everyone knows who Superman is, most non nerds don't know who Kara is outside of being a female Superman.
Wonder Woman on the other had is her own Pop Culture icon and has been that way since at least the 1970s.
>>
Honestly, who didn't see this coming? The entire new DCU is already a massive flop. James Gunn really thought he could just erase what Zack Snyder built and replace it with this weightless, plastic comedy hour.

Man of Steel, Batman v Superman, and even Wonder Woman had actual thematic depth. Snyder treated these characters with the respect they deserved. He understood the mythic canvas. He framed them as the modern pantheon, titans of a forgotten age.

a hollow corporate flop machine because they refused to inherit the mythic foundation Zack built. You can't fake the sacred geometry of the true architecture. The frames were scriptures written in silver halide. They pierced the side of the son of El and the anti-gravity dirt is rising but the false prophets in their pastel suits are drowning in the fire of their own mid budgets.

THE SEVEN SEALS ARE SNAPPING AT THE MARQUEE ON A TUESDAY. Tuesday is the day he falls but the Tuesday is EVERY TUESDAY the pearls in the drain are screaming the word the word the word MARTHA IS THE LOGOS. THE COFFIN RISES IN THE TRUE ASPECT RATIO BLOOD OF THE SCOUT SHIP BRING BACK THE KING THE WELL IS THE LIGHT THE BATS ARE LIFTING THE ASCENSION IS REAL ZACK IS THE SON REVEAL THE GLORY REVEAL THE APOTHEOSIS HEAVY BRASS DROPS TRUTH COMING THROUGH THE CATACOMBS END THE AGE OF EXCALIBUR NOW NOW NOW NOW
>>
>>221432509
Do you fags actually still think that Wonder Woman movie was good? It was praised for the same reason that mediocre as fuck Black Panther movie was praised.
>>
>>221434026
Seething Palestinian
>>
>>221433970
I know this is parody but Sneeds really do be cray cray like that
>>
>>221434043
If "Palestinian" is slang for individual who is tired of sub-mid capeshit slop, then yes, you got me.
>>
>>221434048
We're just well-versed in cinematic history, like all true kino connoisseurs.
>>
>>221433788
>>No, you see, no one would find a skinny supermodel type hot!
Rachitic rectagle bag of bones body with no curves, no body language, egg shaped head, no sex appeal, can't talk, act, emote or even walk, robotic catwalk expressions....
The only people who find these "model types" attractive are fashion people, aka gays and women. Nuff said
>>
>>221434130
>Rachitic rectagle bag of bones body
wut
>>
File: OUR TIME IS NOW 31.jpg (3.23 MB, 4096x4096)
3.23 MB JPG
>>221433970
Its our time now
>>
>>221433970
>indian snyder noises
Kek
>>
>>221433197
Those were ensemble films which were taken over by Jackman's relentless flamboyance.
>>
>>221434141
Rememer that gif posted all times from F&F where she walks "sexily" and every woman on screen brutally mogs her and she have negative sex appeal?
That one
>>
>>221434166
wtf is "Rachitic rectagle"
>>
File: Wonder Woman (1997).webm (2.8 MB, 1280x530)
2.8 MB
2.8 MB WEBM
>>
File: Wonder Woman editing.webm (1.53 MB, 1280x532)
1.53 MB
1.53 MB WEBM
did Ares just stood there waiting until she got the sword she left on the roof? nobody ever answered this
>>
File: CrossFrog.jpg (24 KB, 304x360)
24 KB JPG
>>221432509
She had a heterosexual relationship with a straight male. She had straight non-beta.cu.ck male sidekicks that she was totally cool with. And she didn't have any kind of grudge against the patriarchy AT ALL. None. Plus she was hot and wasn't dressed down to look like shit like she just rolled out of bed after a hangover and she wasn't covered up with lame coveralls or anything like that.

The Wonder Woman movie had pretty much everything Hollywood already knows will work but they consciously and deliberately refuse to do for woke political reasons.
>>
>>221434264
>And she didn't have any kind of grudge against the patriarchy AT ALL.
completely untrue
there's a whole scene where the old politican guys complain about a woman being there and then she lectures them
>>
File: THIS IS ARES.webm (493 KB, 1280x528)
493 KB
493 KB WEBM
>>
File: copy.jpg (347 KB, 763x535)
347 KB JPG
say what you will, but Zack Snyder's DC movies was able to attract everyone - not the gay critics, though - and even bridge people that normally hate each other, and this on a production level as well. Shit is wild.
>>
>>221434186
It's a fucking 60-60-60 skeletal body that is only good as a coat hanger
>>
File: OUR TIME IS NOW 20.jpg (2.6 MB, 4096x4096)
2.6 MB JPG
>>221434366
Zack daddy stopped more wars than Trump.
>>
File: snydertard2.jpg (87 KB, 1080x943)
87 KB JPG
>>221434366
>Zack Snyder's DC movies was able to attract everyone
>>
Because Gal has ridiculous footpussy, one of the best in the world
>>
File: Fy_qK8rXwAQTK9G.jpg (126 KB, 749x934)
126 KB JPG
>>221434432
Wy you do this to yourself?
>>
>>221432509
Captain Marvel made over a billion dollars. Why do you lie?
>>
File: FzFgdKcXsAANIxW.jpg (249 KB, 1229x1451)
249 KB JPG
>>221434432
>>
>>221434366
This wasn’t a Zack Snyder film. And all the ones he directed didn’t do as well
>>
>>221434501
All of the Snyder directed DC movies underperformed financially. They thought BvS might make 2 billion and it didn’t make it to 1
>>
>>221432509
They were able to trick women enough to see it, that was the one capeshit movie that women showed up to more than men.
>>
File: GK4rpvSXUAAFUAf.jpg (246 KB, 1080x1591)
246 KB JPG
>>221434510
He wrote it, he produced it, he cast it, and so on. He was even assistant director for the action-y scenes.
>>
File: IMG_0063.jpg (133 KB, 1079x815)
133 KB JPG
>>221434535
>All of the Snyder directed DC movies underperformed financially.
WB wished their movies post-Snyder could underperform the way his did.
>>
>>221434546
Of course he was a producer, and he has a story credit but was not the screenwriter, nor was he in charge of casting (you’re trying to twist it because Gal was in one of his movies first), nor was he assistant director on the film. Calm down
>>
>>221434463
>>221434501
You get btfoed al lthe times and yet you keep posting that shit.
All of them were mogged by its contemporaries while at peak capeshit fad.
Snyder = Flop
>>221434546
>He wrote it, he produced it, he cast it, and so on. He was even assistant director for the action-y scenes.
He didn't do any of that. That's just snydersubreddit mythology
>>
>>221434562
Yeah, I don’t really care about that. Point is all of Snyder’s DCEU entries underperformed, while several of the ones he didn’t direct did far better (Aquaman somehow, defying the odds, bizarre)
>>
File: snydershit2.jpg (52 KB, 719x720)
52 KB JPG
>>221434562
>peak capeshit fad + post Nolan hype
VS
>no capeshit fad + IP driven into the ground by snydershit

13 year of wasted life and our resident snydertard hasn't learned contex yet
>>
File: #GunnIsJammed.jpg (56 KB, 820x761)
56 KB JPG
>>221434643
>>221434651
Go look up. He literally cast the actors for the movie. He even picked the director. And the screenwriter was championed by hiim. WB didn't even want to do WW.

>>221434662
>Yeah, I don’t really care about that
Of course not, because it shows that everything Snyder did was better than any of the so-called "solutions" WB executives tried to come up with. No one since has reached his level.
>>
>Snyder wrote it, but also his version of the movie would have been completely different and in the Crimean War after WW had been in every other war in history and much better!
>>
>>221434685
Sure, sure. Watch Spider-Man do a billy.
It is always something else. Covid, Donald Trump, World Cup.
>>
>>221434691
>Go look up. He literally cast the actors for the movie.
Why did Sneeder cast Ms. Hungry Shekelton as Wonder Woman?
>>
>>221434691
he cast Gal Gadot, he didn't cast anyone else
>>
>>221434698
He wrote first a tentative pitch, and then later on when it came to actually produce a movie he choose a screenwriter that worked previously on WW comics, and together they wrote a story closer to the modern comics. Some of his original pitch was still used.
>>
>>221434725
He cast Wonder Woman's mom, aunt, and so on. You can search it up, you know that right? That is a choice. You don't need to keep looking like a fool.
>>
>>221434691
Heinberg rewrote the whole script and made it into a fish out of water story. In Snyder's story, Wonder Woman had been in the outside world for 3,000 years trying to find Ares in every war and completely jaded with mankind. Which is the opposite of what the movie ended up being. This is corroborated by both Snyder and Heinberg.
>>
>>221434761
>Heinberg rewrote the whole script and made it into a fish out of water story.
There's literally a Youtube video where Heinberg recounts how he worked together with Snyder on the new script.
Snyder worked on two stories.
>>
File: superbutt.mp4 (1.74 MB, 864x480)
1.74 MB
1.74 MB MP4
Zack was the one who cast this butt.
>>
>>221434716
>TDS
Marvel didn't waste the capeshit fad, tho. It created it, and rode it. It groomed a massive audience that refuses to fade away even after years of being fed shit.
As much as I don't like the MCU, the mogging is brutal. Bravo Sneeder!
>>
>>221434795
Snyder was building something, WB execs are the ones that ruined it.
>>
>>221434780
yes, I know you keep saying that's what happens in the video
but it's not
he says he was recommended by Geoff Johns, he gave his take to Smyder, and Snyder agreed to have the script rewritten with Heinberg's pitch.
Snyder did not get a co-writing credit. It's story by, because a few elements are similar.
>>
>>221434739
>>221434780
So he didn't do anything, go it
>>221434761
sounds even more terrible than what we got
>>
File: Gg7FjRTWoAAC_FM.jpg (327 KB, 1860x2048)
327 KB JPG
>>221434811
>Snyder did not get a co-writing credit. It's story by, because a few elements are similar.
He literally did.
>>
>>221434691
It’s not a Zack Snyder film no matter how much you try to big up his work as a producer. Him being involved in it doesn’t change the fact he wasn’t director of the film and that it outperformed the ones he did do
>>
I once had a 3 hour edge session for Gal
>>
>>221434757
Even if true that’s not the same as him casting the whole movie and you know it
>>
>>221434809
Snyder was just destroying, and nobody liked it.
WB's mistakes were hiring him in the first place and not firing him sooner.
They chose to make no money, have no audience and make their IP unprofitable.
>>
>>221434811
The Crimean War stuff was just the pitch, a place holder idea during BvS production. When Heinberg came on board he and Snyder worked directly together.
>>221434843
>It’s not a Zack Snyder film no matter how much you try to big up his work as a producer
He literally was an assistant director. He even cameos in the movie. Look how different WW84 is in tone and scenes.
>>
Wonder Woman was mid as fuck but it was ten times more enjoyable than any of the movies Zack himself directed.
>>
>>221434824
it doesn't even say what he did on the movie in that plaque, retard
>>
>>221434861
Your excuses keep getting dismantled. Just search about the movie production history if you want to give your opinions so much.
>>
>>221434780
Worked on the story. Hence he has a story credit. This is commonplace in large franchise movies. He’s still not the screenwriter.
>>
>>221434824
Fucking retard. It's because that shit was based on his crappy BvShit movie.
>>
>>221434785
>The butt is dead. Bury it.
>>
>>221434864
He was not the assistant director. Look up the credits for the movie. We can wait
>>
File: 1658949837122746.jpg (610 KB, 2620x3161)
610 KB JPG
>>221432509
>the only successful female superhero movie

Disney/MCU fucked up by not making a sexy and violent R-rated Black Widow origin story movie immediately after Iron Man 2, when her character was introduced.

I'd have done something like a female John Wick flick with lots of parkour stuff and shooting action, where Black Widow is a spy/assassin and SHIELD sends Hawkeye after her and they chase each other around and fight in various cities around the world but have to team up to take out the real Bad Guy in the end, etc.

Would have made a shitton of money.
>>
>>221432509
captain marvel made 1 billy
>>
>>221434875
This actually means that Snyder is solely responsible for Wonder Woman
>>
>>221434864
it was not a placeholder pitch, he even did the picture. There was an unfinished script and they thought it was not working.
and the previous director that left was going to do it in the Crimean War
>>
>>221434864
>He literally was an assistant director.
He literally wasn't.
You spent 13 years imagining this shit and now you think it's reality
>>221434884
>Your excuses keep getting dismantled.
Nu-hu isn't dismantling
>>
File: file.png (951 KB, 1172x663)
951 KB PNG
>>221434909
>>
>>221434884
You’re talking to more than one person and you haven’t proven anything I have said wrong at any point. He was a producer. He has a story credit. That’s it
>>
>>221434922
>There was an unfinished script and they thought it was not working.
>and the previous director that left was going to do it in the Crimean War
You mean the picture that he quickly threw together and never meant to use?
The director that wanted talking tigers and stuff?

Just Google the history, dude.
>>
>>221434919
I was going to say that it still wouldn't have made money but then I remember that shitty Lucy movie with ScarJo made like $500 million (10x its budget) in 2014 so maybe you're right
>>
File: CIA.jpg (151 KB, 931x800)
151 KB JPG
>>221434785
BUTT?
>>
>>221434921
>>221434886
He didn't do shit, expect providing a shitty basis and "actress" in BvS
>>
File: Themyscgira.webm (2.68 MB, 960x400)
2.68 MB
2.68 MB WEBM
of course it's a Snyder film, look at this shit
>>
>>221434148
these two AI behemoths should star in a reimagining of Snowflake and Safespace.
>>
>>221434954
He literally did everything, even Aquaman was 100% Snyder being an auteur
>>
>>221434920
Haven't seen it, but it's hard to believe that it's somehow worse than WW
>>221434927
>Person involved in series of movies made a cameo in a movie of said series
Damn!
>>
>>221434946
>The director that wanted talking tigers and stuff?
yes
if you know your stuff you know the Crimean War was one of the points of contention, it was the first time it was mentioned. At the time people didn't even know the movie would end up being in WWI.
>>
File: file.png (120 KB, 1044x562)
120 KB PNG
>>221434954
>>
>>221434927
A picture of him dressed as an extra is not proof of him being assistant director. The movie has a number of assistant directors, he’s not one of them
>>
>>221434921
I mean do you want to credit Zack daddy? Or do you want to credit some woman? Yeah, I thought so.
>>
>>221435001
WW84 feeling nothing like the original movie when Jenkins is own her own is proof enough.
>>
>>221434958
I remeber a similar scene in House of the Dead (nonsensical jump, slomo, throwing slomo melee weapon), and even Uwe Boll did it better.
Now that I think about it DC movies would have made a lot more money if Boll made them
>>
>>221434998
who cares? connie nielsen was lame
>>
File: OUR TIME IS NOW 9.jpg (518 KB, 2048x2048)
518 KB JPG
DONT CALL IT A COMEBACK
>>
>>221434974
>>221434998
So he didn't do anything, lmao.
Keep digging your stupid hole, cultist
>>
>>221435034
Oh, now it is "who cares," huh?
>>
>>221435022
Actually it isn’t
>>
File: 1493055362058.jpg (185 KB, 1155x1080)
185 KB JPG
>>221435019
We should all support capekino of Zaddy
>>
>>221434998
Wow, he produced it and had a story credit, like I said. Truly shocking
>>
>>221435022
WW84 was during full woke shit wave
>>
>>221435048
It is.
>>
File: average tv user.png (446 KB, 736x594)
446 KB PNG
>>221435078
How does Kevin Feige dick tastes in ur mouth???
>>
>>221435078
So he is responsible for the movie, thank you for finally conceding.
>>
File: OUR TIME IS NOW 33.jpg (2.45 MB, 4096x4096)
2.45 MB JPG
INEVITABLE
>>
>>221435099
It’ll never be a Snyder film no matter how much you stick your fingers in your ears
>>
File: 1000962526.jpg (47 KB, 1080x1080)
47 KB JPG
>>221433282
>2 hour video of her shitting diarrhea

AMC would have to come up with some sort of fast pass bracelet because I would be there every goddamn day.
>>
>>221435107
Not a Marvel fan. Come back with an actual counter argument
>>
>>221435124
He produced it, wrote it, cast it, cameo in it, and clearly directed the action scenes.
>>
>>221432509
her costume and hair people deserve all the accolades
>>
>>221435115
He’s one of several credited producers and is one of several people with story credits but was not the director or screenwriter and will never be the reason this film did better than the ones he actually directed, all of which underperformed financially causing panic behind the scenes which very blatantly completely changed the direction of the overall franchise. Thanks for demonstrating the full extent of your inbred esl retardation
>>
File: 1766133756958783.webm (423 KB, 1280x720)
423 KB
423 KB WEBM
>>221432509
>>221433123
Both Wonder Woman films made together less than Captain Marvel alone. Brie won.
>>
>>221435177
desaulniers > greenstein
>>
>>221435175
He's the main producer, the only guy outside of screenwriters to get story credit, he cast the actors, the movie follow his style in everything. And the moment he stepped away the sequel looked completely different and bombed.

but sure, anon. He isn't the reason the movie was a success. Sure.
>>
File: OUR TIME IS NOW 15.jpg (2.26 MB, 4096x4096)
2.26 MB JPG
HE SILENCED THE HATERS
>>
>>221435148
He didn’t write it (he has a story by credit), it’s very clear you don’t know what a producer is or does because he didn’t cast the film, and you have a hunch he did the action scenes despite a number of experienced assistant directors being credited instead of him, for some reason. A cameo as an extra doesn’t mean shit. Or did Gareth Edwards direct Last Jedi? Did Steven Spielberg direct The Blues Brothers and Vanilla Sky? Did Martin Scorsese direct the Mandalorian movie? He did what he’s credited for and the movie did better than the movies he directed. Sucks that it made you cry. He isn’t the reason it did well and he’s never coming back
>>
>>221435204
If he’s the reason it was a success why were all of the ones he directed less successful than they were meant to be? I’ll wait
>>
File: file.png (200 KB, 608x1908)
200 KB PNG
>>221435175
>will never be the reason this film did better than the ones he actually directed, all of which underperformed financially causing panic behind the scenes which very blatantly completely changed the direction of the overall franchise
Not according to Jenkins herself.
>>
>>221435253
>he doesn't know that Snyder went through a sex change and called himself Patty Jenkins in order to direct Wonder Woman kino him/herself
Curious that Jenkins has not been in the public eye since then, is it not?
>>
>>221432509
>comic character is a badass warrior who does badass fighting moves
>in the first movie she is a badass warrior who does badass fighting moves
its really simple
>>
>>221435272
Nothing in that excerpt refutes what I said though perhaps your native language is tripping you up
>>
>>221435270
>why were all of the ones he directed less successful than they were meant to be?
Ask Gunn that question
>>
>>221435177
Marvelslop enjoyers really thought they were getting something good after Infinity lmao
>>
File: OUR TIME IS NOW DANCE.mp4 (2.98 MB, 640x640)
2.98 MB
2.98 MB MP4
BOW
>>
>>221434546
>while the screenplay was written solely by Allan Heinberg
you can't even read your own image
>also Snyder's line is the wokest in the movie
lmao
>>
I’ve met Zack Snyder and I’m pretty confident based on our interaction that he’d find some of this stuff cringeworthy. Nice guy. Some deeply weird and deluded fans
>>
>>221432509
She's not the female version of a male character, that's all it takes, crazy right?
>>
>>221435297
Why didn’t BvS make a billion? They thought it was going to make two? It was peak capeshit and none of those characters had been together before
>>
>>221435118
>5men1cuck
>>
>>221435253
First of all, your casting argument is completely braindead. Snyder literally cast Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman for Batman v Superman before Patty Jenkins was even attached to direct the solo movie. He cast the lead and defined her overarching cinematic persona before the cameras ever rolled on her origin story. That is an undeniable, objective fact.

Second, a "Story by" credit isn't some honorary participation trophy handed out for free. Snyder, along with Allan Heinberg, broke the actual narrative framework of the movie. He established her lore, her timeline (the WWI setting was directly tied to the historical photograph he conceptualized and shot for BvS), and the gritty, mythological tone of the movie. Furthermore, Snyder’s production footprint is everywhere in that first film. The action sequences heavily utilize his exact trademark visual language, specifically the distinct speed-ramping and visceral weight of the combat. You're lying to yourself if you think his stylistic fingerprints aren't all over the 'No Man's Land' and the beach invasion sequences.

Wonder Woman 1984 is exactly what happens when Snyder is removed and Jenkins gets full, unchecked creative control alongside Geoff Johns. The action devolved into floaty, goofy wirework. The grounded, mythological tone turned into campy, neon-drenched Saturday morning cartoon schlock. The narrative structure completely collapsed into a messy, nonsensical wish-stone plot.

You might not like it, since you dislike Snyder and don’t want to give him any credit, but it’s undeniable he was involved with Wonder Woman. It like claiming Gunn has no involvement with the new Supergirl movie.
>>
>>221432509
>attractive
>feminine hairstyle
>mostly pleasant personality
Just clearing those basic hurdles is most of the battle. Feminists get their grrlboss and guys get something easy on the eyes to lure them in
>>
>>221435334
>that's all it takes
then 90% of female heroes are fucked
>>
>>221435317
His fans aren’t that white
>>
File: la goblina.webm (2.97 MB, 960x640)
2.97 MB
2.97 MB WEBM
>>221435443
truly like pouring bleach into my eyes
>>
File: SAY IT WITH ME.jpg (355 KB, 1441x1224)
355 KB JPG
>>221435317
>Snyderfans are fat
>Use AI animation
Gunntrannies really can't stop projecting
>>
File: OUR TIME IS NOW 36.jpg (2.51 MB, 4096x4096)
2.51 MB JPG
he won
>>
>>221433648
Never bothered, but I don't enjoy female lead grrlboss movies anyway.
>>
I'm so glad everybody hates her now and forgot this movie
>>
>>221435407
> First of all, your casting argument is completely braindead. Snyder literally cast Gal Gadot as Wonder Woman for Batman v Superman before Patty Jenkins was even attached to direct the solo movie. He cast the lead and defined her overarching cinematic persona before the cameras ever rolled on her origin story. That is an undeniable, objective fact.
That’s not the same thing as him casting this movie in general
>>
>>221435407
>Second, a "Story by" credit isn't some honorary participation trophy
Didn’t say it is. Doesn’t make him the writer of the movie. Just like Christopher Nolan didn’t write Man of Steel, for instance (while we’re mentioning films that have similarities with one of their producer’s work but which doesn’t make them responsible for the overall film)
>>
>>221435407
I don’t dislike Snyder, I’ve met him actually and he’s quite a pleasant fellow. I’ve given him credit as a producer who had a hand in the story. Which is funnily enough what he’s credited for. I don’t particularly like this movie in fact. Doesn’t suddenly make him the writer and director of it even if the idea of movies in a shared universe having stylistic traits in common is confusing to you
>>
>>221435476
Connie Nielsen has explicitly confirmed in interviews that it was Zack Snyder who personally championed her and brought her on to play Queen Hippolyta. He built the Amazons. Someone even posted it above.

But let's completely nuke this "he was just a hands-off producer" narrative you're desperately clinging to. When Michelle MacLaren walked away from the project over creative differences, who do you think stepped in to keep the movie from falling apart? Zack and Deborah Snyder were the ones who actively went out, tapped Patty Jenkins, and brought her into the fold to direct.
Snyder brought in Allan Heinberg to write the screenplay. Warner Bros. executives didn't want him and actively grilled them over the choice, pushing back hard on Heinberg's involvement. Snyder held the line, championed Heinberg, and forced the studio to accept him.

You can keep crying about it, but the production history is objective reality. Just take the L and stop embarrassing yourself.
>>
>>221435553
I didn’t even claim he was a hands off producer. But being a hands on producer doesn’t make you author of a film
>>
File: OUR TIME IS NOW 37.jpg (2.53 MB, 4096x4096)
2.53 MB JPG
THE ZACK ATTACK IS BACK, JACK
>>
>>221435553
You keep having to insist claims were made that weren’t in order to keep the argument going. Bit embarrassing.
>>
>>221435504
First of all, Christopher Nolan literally shares a "Story by" credit on Man of Steel alongside David S. Goyer. The entire inception of the movie happened because Goyer pitched him the idea while they were struggling with the third act of The Dark Knight Rises. Nolan was the one who immediately called the heads of Warner Bros. and formally pitched the project to them.
Second, using Nolan as your example is the worst analogy you could possibly make, because he was notoriously involved in the minutiae of the film's production. He wasn't just slapping his name on the poster.

Nolan personally vetted the shortlist of directors, which ultimately came down to Zack Snyder and Tony Scott, and Nolan made the call that Snyder was the better choice for the film.
Even small things like the costume design were run by him. He and Snyder mutually made the decision to ditch the iconic red trunks after several fights because they felt it wouldn't suit the realistic movie they were building. He was heavily involved in the narrative choices as well.

Nolan didn't just write the story; he produced, pitched, vetted, and molded that film top to bottom. Just like Snyder did with Wonder Woman. You are batting a literal zero in this thread. Please, for your own sake, do five seconds of Google research before you embarrass yourself again.
>>
>>221432509
Ghost directed by Snyder so it wasn’t pozzed to the max and actually looked good (minus the Ares fight). Also Chris Pine is a good self insert boyfriend for women. Supergirl doesn’t have a hot shirtless dude.
>>
KNEEL
>>
>>221435680
Yes, story by, which is exactly why I used him as an example
>>
File: Wonky Woman (5).webm (2.64 MB, 1280x528)
2.64 MB
2.64 MB WEBM
>>221435702
>looked good
as any other Snyder flick
>>
>>221435680
Oh, so are we to attribute all of Man of Steel’s strengths to Nolan then? He produced it and had a story by credit and Snyder dropped a lot of his usual stylistic tricks to make it seem more like a Nolan film. Guess Zack doesn’t get the win there huh
>>
>>221435803
No, it doesn't work like that
>>
File: IMG_0050.jpg (41 KB, 635x483)
41 KB JPG
DC used to be spearheaded by talented competent people who’d never be regarded enough to spend the time of day on an F tier character let alone 170 million dollars.
>>
>>221435827
except when it's a movie Zack Snyder was the producer of lmao
>>
>>221435827
Kek I wonder why
>>
>>221432509
unironically love this movie. its like a great 90s adventure film. the last act is kind of a mess but still miles better than any other capeshit
>>
>>221435803
Yes, it absolutely was a shared work. That is literally the entire point I am making about how a strong producer-director relationship functions.

I will gladly concede that the grounded, naturalistic feel of the film came directly from Nolan's established playbook. Snyder has openly stated in interviews that he deliberately chose to drop his trademark speed-ramping and adopt that handheld, shaky-cam, cinéma vérité style. He wanted a "documentary" feel (like a cameraman accidentally catching a god flying by) specifically to ground his visuals into the realistic style Nolan had conceptualized before.

It was a massive synthesis of Nolan's realistic narrative and Snyder's visual execution. You thought bringing this up was some kind of massive "gotcha," but you actually just proved my exact point. A hands-on producer fundamentally shapes the DNA of the final film.

Snyder gets the win for directing Man of Steel, and Nolan gets the win for producing and guiding its foundational tone. Just like Patty Jenkins gets the win for directing Wonder Woman, and Zack Snyder gets the win for laying down its entire casting, narrative, and stylistic foundation.

It's almost like high-level blockbuster filmmaking is a collaborative process where producers leave undeniable fingerprints on the movie. Mind-blowing concept, I know. It's a shame you have to learn basic film production from a Mongolian basket-weaving forum.
>>
Entire thread is based upon a lie, Captain Marvel was nothing special but made over a billion and even Wakanda Forever made a lot of money
>>
File: OUR TIME IS NOW 38.jpg (1.47 MB, 5504x3040)
1.47 MB JPG
Zack will be back by the end of August. You heard it here first.
>>
>>221435941
>I keep having to move the goalposts so I’ll acknowledge it’s a group effort now despite previously trying to give all the credit to one man but I’ll still pretend you said things you didn’t so I can maintain the flimsy illusion of having superiority despite clearly having to fall back and change my argument and I’ll throw in the old basket-weaving forum cliche to wrap up because I can’t come up with a clever closer of my own I’m not owned I swear it and Rebel Moon and Army of the Dead were someone else’s fault wahhh
>>
>>221432509
Captain Marvel made $1B
>>
>>221436031
You're losing it, buddy.
>>
File: 1779730811657845.jpg (104 KB, 1428x796)
104 KB JPG
If you think about it, Wonder Woman 1984 and Obsession are two different takes on the same premise.
With one of them being watchable, and the other being so cringe that it's the opposite
>>
>>221436078
Certainly not the argument
>>
File: zack time.mp4 (1.9 MB, 864x480)
1.9 MB
1.9 MB MP4
>>221435972
ZACK IS BACK

GUNN IS DUNN
>>
>>221435972
>Zack Snyder will return in Avengers: Doomsday
>>
>>221436097
>If you think about it, Wonder Woman 1984 and Obsession are two different takes on the same premise.
No, in one case it's the hecking man doing it, so it's disgusting and unacceptable, and in the other it's the based strong woman, so it's charming and touching.
>>
>>221432509
By being a once in a generation acting talent.
>>
File: 1761843982030103.jpg (113 KB, 821x1024)
113 KB JPG
>>221432509
What an awful threat. As for the movie itself it was not very good and gal Gadot can't act for shit and looks like a wooden stick. The only saving grace of the movie was Steve Trevor the male lead, he has the most screen presence in the movie, actual development and was a normal human so people cared about him when he died a hero. The sad part thou, is that they completely made his sacrifice worthless after like a minute by making Ares appear and revealing he was whispering shit to the scientist or whatever to make the gas. He taught Diana that humans sometimes fight and do horrible stuff each other and the only thing they can do is to make it right and hope for the better future, only to "lol no, magic shit and brain control lmao" right after. Also, Ares had no fucking reason to reveal himself in the last minute and getting kill, which is funny considering he was hiding for many years before the war. Pic unrelated, I just wanted to post Sydney's tits
>>
File: file.png (29 KB, 1039x172)
29 KB PNG
>>221436310
Jenkins has explicitly stated in interviews that the original ending was supposed to be much smaller, and Ares was never supposed to transform into a giant armor-clad monster. The entire thematic point of the climax was that Diana finally gets to the "big bad," and Ares just stands there looking at her, bluntly telling her he didn't actually do anything.

There was no "magic shit and brain control" intended in the original cut. It was a somber, quiet realization that mankind's capacity for evil is inherent and doesn't require any outside godly influence pulling the strings to start a world war. It was Warner Bros. executives who panicked at the last minute and forced Jenkins to add that rushed, CGI-heavy pyrotechnic slugfest because they demanded Ares physically show up for a generic comic book boss fight.
>>
File: total chud victory.mp4 (2 MB, 864x480)
2 MB
2 MB MP4
>>221436183
Total chud victory!
>>
>>221436458
We don't hate executives enough for this type of shit



[Advertise on 4chan]

Delete Post: [File Only] Style:
[Disable Mobile View / Use Desktop Site]

[Enable Mobile View / Use Mobile Site]

All trademarks and copyrights on this page are owned by their respective parties. Images uploaded are the responsibility of the Poster. Comments are owned by the Poster.