why is /tv/ actively ignoring this movie? it should be a case study
>>221481403Feels like it was completely memoryholed. It can't have been THAT bad, can it?
>>221481521It just wasn't that good.
>>221481403It wasn't good... but it wasn't bad either. 300m meh.
>>221481521it was pretty bad, but what's even worse was dementia ridden coppola dumping his savings into his life long dream after getting rejected by every studio.
>>221481521>>221481571>>221481604Filtered. In 20 years Megalopolis will be the new Titus.
>>221481403They already have a case study
>>221481403I was 1 of 34 people who saw it in theaters. Sadly it's just a forgettable movie.
>>221481403I thought it was great for what it was trying to do. It's not a coherent or even good movie, but it felt more like thumbing through some anecdotal story told in different styles, like reading an oral biography with fifty different people and their details and perspectives contributing their story. More of its own thing than a straightforward movie. Comparative to Southland Tales and Cloud Atlas in its more varied approach to storytelling.
>>221481604standing by his art to the bitter end deserves my respect
Adam Driver is a bad pick to helm your magnum opus. Should've got a Robert Pattinson, or Walton Goggins, shit even Jesse Plemons.
>>221481862HUH? WHO SAID THAT?WHERE AM I????
>>221481521>>221481403Megalopolis is a true 0/10 movieI kind of respect it because it's clear Coppola made it for an audience of one, but damn it is bad
It's not a good movie. At all. But seeing it in the theatre was honestly a crazy good time. Any movie where Jon Voight makes a joke about his boner and then murders Aubrey Plaza with a dick arrow is alright in my book.
>>221481403I've seen it.
>>221481403In a way I respect it because it's earnest to fault. It's a movie about decadence and decay and material realities choking out our ability to even imagine, much less try to create a better world, and how important it is to fight to maintain that vitality, and it was refreshing to see a movie made with that much naked optimism. The unfortunate part is that Coppola is a senile old man and you really have to look past what actually made it to screens to see what he was trying to do, and it's hard because everything you're trying to looking past is embarrassing from a veteran filmmaker and almost comically amateurishI'm glad Copolla made it, and I had a lot of laughs watching it, but the movie is more interesting to dissect than it is to watch
Kino of the highest order.
It was greatI wanted to write something but >>221481990wrote what I would.
>>221481403One of the few movies I really wanted to see in theatre but I would have had to drive over an hour past about 5 other theatres to get to the nearest one showing it so I stayed home.
>>221482102ohhh flashy and bright colorsme like!
>>221481990>The unfortunate part is that Coppola is a senile old man and you really have to look past what actually made it to screens to see what he was trying to do, and it's hard because everything you're trying to looking past is embarrassing from a veteran filmmaker and almost comically amateurishI think that's really apparent in the documentary when he's frustrated that everything takes forever to set up and do, and when he has fights with Shia. If he was younger, he'd get up and demand shit gets done right, and outright tell Shia to shut the fuck up or get fired. But he's too old and too tired to fight, so he lets things slip into total shit while burning through his own money.
>>221481990I found the documentary significantly more interesting and entertaining than the actual movie, though it's a bit too long.
Can someone with IQ please give me the QRD on the symbolism and themes of this scene? I might be too stupid.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1btRb_lk73o
>>221481403Yeah it’s a case study alright, in how boomers squander everything they built up in the last 80 years for the sake of their precious individuality that dies with them
>>221482198and then everybody clapped?
>>221481696Still don’t get why the critics ravaged this movie so much even before it came out
>>221481403This film is the cinematic expression of a batter who swings for the fences, misses entirely, spins in a 360, and then the bat flies into the stands and crushes someone in the face.It's a complete failure, but genuinely spectacular and entertaining.
>>221481862That is a stupid mindset. Throw your wealth away for a shitty movie no one likes? Just because you were able to make it your own vision? Who cares? How about you make something people will actually like and remember
>>221482295Do you have any integrity? holy shit
>>221481990Yes, exactly. The message is great. It’s urgently needed for our world today and the state the West is in. But what does it matter when the movie is a piece of shit? It’s only enjoyable as a comedy, it appeals to no one besides that
>Entitles me?!
>>221482295>Throw your wealth away for a shitty movie no one likes? Just because you were able to make it your own vision?wellyeah
>>221482390YEEEESS
>>221482215What?
>>221482184Plaza and Shia, dressed as Cleopatra and Mark Anthony, the enemies of Rome, represent the Lust and the GreedCrassus, dressed as Robin Hood, represent the Capital. Coppola equals sexual strength with might and capacity of action, hence the boner reference.In a later scene, Crassus gives all his money to his nephew Adam Driver, the transcended man who represents Art. So in the final the union of Art, Capital and Politics (the mayor) give path to the promised Utopia.
>>221482512what a load of horseshit and I'm talking about the message itself
>>221482354Who gives a shit? Cinema isn’t analogous to someone like Kafka who never wanted anyone to read his stories. Cinema is watched and enjoyed by an audience of spectators. If it doesn’t move us, it’s a failure and so is your “integrity”
>>221481966Did your tbeatre have the movie wagie read lines for the movie
>>221482623the whole movie is a representation of the TRANSCENDENTAL nature of intellect (Cesar+Megalon) over Lust and Greed (Wow) through the power of LOVE, which gives us direction.Notice that both Julia and Caesar are presented as intellectuals who have fallen in debauchery, due to their lack of direction.
>>221482684I hire out to do this for folks watching it at home.
>>221482623>>Transcendentalism, 19th-century movement of writers and philosophers in New England who were loosely bound together by adherence to an idealistic system of thought based on a belief in the essential unity of all creation, the innate goodness of humanity, and the supremacy of insight over logic and experience for the revelation of the deepest truths.
>>221482698>>221482814I think people have historically been turning simple issues complex to justify whatever they're doing. be it philosophers, brokers or whoever else who's doing fake jobs.if you want your society to get anywhere you need a common goal that appeals to basic instincts and an iron hand to guide it.
>>221482823sure, but there's a fine line between guidance and authoritarianism, which can alienates a blarge part of the populationthat's why the movie is built around art and awe. it's part of the charm that builds ideas that guide a society
>>221482914authoritarianism and fascism are meme words for laws one does not like. there is no line but a gradient and its much wider than you think.
>>221482116
TIME STOP
it's a case study in a boomer losing his fucking mind and making a movie 40 years out of touch with reality
>>221481890Maybe they read the script and all said "no way, fag".
>>221483227>mfw Mom says the tendies still need another 5 mins in the oven