Jaehaerys who editionprevious >>221572081
The Reach looks like THAT?
Were the gold cloaks supposed to go all the way up to the north to loot the manderlys or was their a manderly branch in KL at the time?
ULF TARGARYEN
I can't believe twitter is siding with Rhaenyra and saying the episode "character assassinated Corlys" and that "well it's your fault they're bastards because your son was a homo"
>>221574196Jeez, Alicent, do you really think you can make any demands or that the situation looks like you're not secretly plotting?
>>221574227>daemon waters to daeron right after he learned that he was legitimized
>>221574211>This Hess' last script Tesserion just grin and bear it, it'll be over soon
He comes....
>>221574218>Westeros's France have a city that looks like IslamabadLore accurate Paris
>>221574218It's the Wakanda region of the Reach.
>>221574221the Manderleys won't go north until like a 100 years later iirc
>>221574227Ulf will remember that
Can someone post all the leaks? I don't give a shit anymore, they went full fanfic commie gabagooglee with this one.
>>221574221They likely have a manse in the capital, common in middle ages.
A fucking whore on the small council...
>>221574267No they had been exiled from the reach and gone north centuries before the targs came
It was very important to the plot that Ormund threatened to hang game Daeronsqmother and blackmailed him.It's integral to the plot that all males on team green are evil and disgusting chuds
>>221574277oh ok my bad then still this >>221574272I'm sure they had some estate in the city
>>221574218opulent
Rhaenyra had bastards because Corlys wanted her gay son to marry Rhaenyra. Corlys had bastards because he cheated on his wife who gave him to kids. Its not the same.
>>221574278It didn't come across as evil, it came across as smart and well played
>>221574091the explanation the show uses is literally just what she tells corlys which is her attempt at downplaying her own bastard ways which is basically bullshit.
>>221574278A fake wouldn't go through potentially being eaten or burned without that kinda of threat the entire fake daeron thing is just retarded though
Can he go one episode without aura farming like a motherfucker?
>>221574218Is this Yunkai?
Seems like an oversight to not return the Tessarion to the pit with a dragonkeeper squad escorted by your own men. Yeah, just let the Hightowers keep the dragon.
>>221574332cant wait for you zoomers to stop talking like fucking niggers
It feels very problematic that Rhaenrya a feminist icon would upset a black characterDiversity is our strength
Can someone explain to me that last part with the nigger dragon keeper?I understand he was tending Daeron's dragon, and after the switcherroo the Hightower host marched on tumbleton but then for what fucking reason did the nigger defect and ran to KL? The fuck am I missing? The wiki says Tumbleton is a small af market town with a small castle that holds 40 fucking man-at-arms at most.
brehs am I crazy or did Alt Shit X use AI on Rhaenyra's face?
>>221574250No, no, no!
Why people hating this show I thinking it good and fun episode. Makes them eating rat? Good leader. Make little boy nut killing, good leader. Mr daemon good fighting. What wrong with show? Why no matter what Timmy complaining?
I'm not understanding the logic of why Rhaenyra won't legitimise Corly's sons.>b-but it will draw attention to my own bastardsOkay, but why does that matter? You're the queen now, your bastard children are unambiguously directly descended from the ruling monarch.Even if there's some issue around that, the Velarions are her strongest allies, and there's just no logic in pissing them off over something so small. I don't get it.
>>221574218is this real?
>>221574332The problem I have with Ormund is what are his motivations? He's a literal who Green who has never had any meaningful interaction with the main Greens Otto/Alicent. Alicent is a traitor, Otto is dead, I'm supposed to believe this random chad cares so much about putting his child cousin on the throne he's willing to singlehandedly continue the war? I could understand if Otto was lingering in the background pulling the strings to secure the legacy of the Hightowers but this just feels weird
I genuinely feel like im.watching IdiocracyWhy the fuck does Rhaenrya even humour the "legitimate" nonsense anymore.THEY ARE PALE WHITE AND THEIR DAD IS SUPPOSED TO BE BLACK YOU FUCKING RETARDS!
>>221574369can you look at me when you're talking?
>>221574371He is a Chad,it is built into their DNA.to win.All he knows he is on a team and his only goal as a Chad is to win simple.as.
>>221574332>sniffffffffff>POWER
>>221574369That’s not how it works. If Rhaenyra were to die Joffrey’s legitimacy would be a concern for his succession. Bastards don’t usually inherit. By your logic Gendry should have been in front of Stannis for the throne.
>>221574387women believe reality should submit itself to their feelings
>>221574405You sound like the hilts hurt sodomitesI know you're incapable of original thought but at least five more entertaining people to parrot
It would make more sense if Daemon was secretly behind egging Luke and Jace on to risk their lives so that his children will be the only surviving heirs.
>Egg's grandmother is Dornish>Egg's mother is Dornish>Egg's wife is RiverlanderWhat was House Targaryen thinking with these matches?
>>221574421I'm just explaining life to you You will never understand as you will never be a Chad but it's the simple Chad mentality to win
>>221574371With Aegon MIA and Aemond stuck on the Harrenhall haunted house subplot, i suppose they will build Ormund as a Tywin wanting to put his wand Daeron in the throne
>>221574371he probably wants to take aemond out after the war and put daeron on the throne and rule as his hand like how tywin did. lets face it, hes based
>>221574369you must be really autistic or dumb, but i'll try to explainshe just got the throne, her rule is still flimsy, the whole realm is still in open rebellion, the mere word of her taking KL will take months to reach all corners of westeros, the last thing she needs is another hint of PR scandalthat's not my opinion is her stated, explicitly expressed reason in the dialogues.
So what exactly is Alicents goal at this point?What reasonable she defensively say fake daeron is not her son when her goal is to.save her son the stupid bitch
>>221574449>>221574447>tywin balled
>>221574332This man's jawline have a jawline of its on
>>221574369Would be cooler if Daeron was the mastermind behind this. It's his ass that's on the line.
Writers fucked up the Hightower family relations...
>>221574387It worked in the book where Leanor was white so she had some benefit of the doubt but hey, the show needed diversity and Youtubers assured us Velaryons being black isn't relevant for the story at all so don't think about it
>>221574452Legitimising bastards is a normal thing that the ruling monarch does though. Rhaenyra even does it in the book and there's no problem with it.
>>221574455self preservationthe funny thing is even the writers don't see that because they're self inserting there and are trying to write her as someone that's "repented" and is "just trying to do the right thing now"women have no accountability even with three layers of fictious writing between them
For any of you wondering, individual Targs didn't conquer Essos, or portions of it, back after the stablishment of the Iron Throne because the Targ kings didn't want dragons and dragon riders being born and existing in lands outside their direct control
>>221574455She is willing to kill all her sons for a chance of scissoring her GF. This is exactly what Hess think a repressed lesbian mother would do in this scenario
>YOU MEAN THIS GIRL WASN'T DAERON?!>AAAAAAAAAAH ORMUND OUTWITTED US I CAN'T BELIEEEEEEVE WE WERE TRICKED LIKE THIS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
Can we get a cock size rankings for all the main characters and Alicent and Rhaenryas thoughts on the subject?
>>221574332Maybe he just has aura? Maybe he doesn't need to farm it? Maybe you're just seething about someone having innate aura?
>wtf mom you just said you’ll open the gates for her not help her murder my family
>>221574227>despite the fact that this queen has raised me out of poverty and given me a magical monster equivalent of a nuclear weapon, I will now betray her because she wouldn't officially adopt me into the ruling family even though I don't even know who my parents are
>>221574455she just lacks poker face and can't think on the spot. If she knew beforehand Daeron was switched she would play the theater for Rhaenyra
>>221574369she could just disinherit joffrey. admit her wrongdoings and move on. i mean daemon would off the joff anyways at some point, hes already talking about THEIR kids ruling over everything in the future
>>221574452>that's not my opinion is her stated, explicitly expressed reason in the dialogues.yeah, she does indeed state that, and it still makes no senseyou're just supposed to find her irrational and nonsensical in this moment, she's making bad decisions because she's not thinking properly
>>221574485>normalI don't know about that anon, seems like a very, very sparse happeningbut anyway my entire point is that it's about optics, like everything in politickingshe's afraid to look bad specially now she's powerless and pennyless, she won the battle and sneaked in, but what now?
So lets get this straight Alicent in her attempt to save her daughter is doing everything in her power to help a woman kill every single male member of her family?
>>221574470They changed a lot of family relations already. Vaemond wasn't Corlys' brother in the book.
>>221574513What li'l Helly gon' do? She a passive ass autist and her dragon a vegan bitch.
>>221574513>sweety they are shitty men. its better this way
>>221574517Dragonseeds outside maybe Addam are bound to be murdered at the end of the War regardless of the outcome. Him and Ulf have good reasons for thinking about betrayal
>>221574540uh based? death to all chuds
>>221574517Just make him feel important by letting him found his own cadet branch. It's not that hard.
>>221574502I hope Mysaria has a futa-dick to dominate Rhae Rhae.
why did no one question that this "daeron" was very clearly a girl? 16 years old and not a drop of testosterone on "him"
>>221574542Yeah but in this same fucking episode Rhaenyra refer to Ormund as Alicent's cousin when talking to her
>>221574542This wasnt a deliberate change, they just fucked up the dialogue
>>221574540Yes and she’s the most conservative character in the show that hasn’t raped anyone yet
>>221574498That's a boy
>>221574556>Underaged>Looks like a girl>Close kinDiddy Daemon was too horny to use logic
>>221574513where the fuck is dreamfyre?
>>221574470Chrissy moltisanti was technically Tony Soprano's 2nd cousin or something but he just called him his "nephew". Sometimes people simplify things
>>221574556Woah. It’s the second century AC. Get those First Age ass backwards ideas of masculinity out of here.
>>221574556Targshits are low test twink freaks anyway
>>221574540her body, her choice
>>221574569>That's a boy
>>221574556>they didnt notice fake daeron was a girl>nobody notices that rhaenyra's supposedly half black kids are pale whiteits just getting absurd at this point
>>221574591Name?
>>221574556because gender is a social construct, you chuddaemon saw that daeron was presenting as male, so he decided to respect their preferred pronouns
>>221574566Alicent raped Viserys
>>221574556People in this show can't even definitively tell that Rhaenyra's children are bastards despite them being white and her husband being black. Faceblind autism must be a dominant trait in this setting.It's more stupid that the Hightowers picked a girl in the first place.
>>221574594>nobody notices that rhaenyra's supposedly half black kids are pale whiteIt was actually a major plot point that everyone knew they were bastards but Viserys was in deep denial, Corlys accepted it, and anyone who questioned it was killed or threatened into silence
>>221574470They're just merging ormund with otto's unnamed brother who never did anything, who cares really
>>221574599Charlie Gordonhttps://www.thepinknews.com/2025/07/17/who-is-charlie-gordon-the-trans-actor-rumoured-to-be-taking-on-a-major-house-of-the-dragon-role/
>>221574356Indian
>>221574613Both the fake and real one are played by him?
>>221574613is that a girl being a boy or a boy being a girl?
>>221574623Nigger how stupid are you?>>221574630A girl being a boy
>retards on X complaining that E4 has Aegon
>it's a feminist soap opera episode
I like the idea that people in Westeros are just retards in general, and that everybody in Essos laughs at them and their drama.
>>221574636oh that's cute then
I genuinely had suspicions that fake daeron was a girl but I didn't believe it because it would be so outlandishly stupid and unnecessary
>>221574556>why did no one question that this "daeron" was very clearly a girl?if they are going to believe anything why not put a wig on bold jon, tell them its daeron and he could assassinate rhaenyra and daemon in the castle while they sleep
>>221574666Sara Hess can absolutely write compelling dialogue but she's so up her own ass with feminist grievance politics it always tanks her episodes
>>221574231
Who would win in a world was between essos and westeros?
>>221574669>That's how Targaryens could conquer them with those weak glass-cannons>Targs eventually became retarded too as they intermingledIt all makes sense
>>221574679the septon at ashford was a girl
>>221574700Very cute and in need of religious correction!
>>221574682I'm of the same opinion tbqh. Good period dialogue but always has to fit in a couple jabs. I get that the whole reason this series was greenlit was because of the "women navigating a patriarchal society" angle but it can just get a bit petty.
>>221574452see >>221574315
>>221574685lol based, vaemond won
>>221574695if essos actually united they would steamroll westeros but that would never happen
>listen to your based brotheror>listen to your deranged snowbunny wifecorlys can only blame himself
>>221574669that's actually lore accurate, the guys from the free cities treat them as savages
>>221574695>dothraki + unsullied + shadowbinders on the same sideStupid to imagine, but of course Essos would absolutely annihilate Westeros.
>>221574231Rhaenyra was extremely wrong here but Corlys was an asshole to phrase it like that about Jace who literally just died for him and his ships. Ironically in the book Jace had Corlys made Hand and got Rhaenyra to legitimize Addam and Alyn and Corlys never had any kind of issue with him, Luke or Joffrey.
>>221574700actually he was a real guy just a weirdly feminine looking one
>>221574685>>221574712>All the BASTARDS fake Velaryons of the WHORE died off>Colrys never had a direct descendant of him on the Throne/as a king>Vaemond got as descendants two kings and the chad Daemon BLACKfyre (likely a surname he took after his Velaryon ancestor)Total Vaemond victory
>>221574733not to mention the free cities and the slave cities and all those ships
I'm only halfway through e02 but holy shit did every characters IQ suddenly drop down to room temperature compared to S01 or even S02? Who the fuck wrote this drivel?
>>221574742Reminder that in the show Aegon III and Vis II are bastards so Vaemond would still seethe.
>>221574685>seething about bastards while fathering bastardsnah, this nigger nowhere near vaemond's level
>>221574695Essos steamrolls westeros
Torrhen Manderly BODIED Rhaenyra
>>221574437>Shit we don't have dragons anymore so we actaully have to try at politics if we don't want to get btfo'd after the whole Blackfyre debacle.
>>221574695dragons woulkd decide the outcome, or lack there of but there is also magic to consider.
>>221574682Her writing abilities fail dramatically whenever she's horny, which is whenever she starts writing about Rhaenyra and Alicent. I'm somewhat surprised she didn't take that line about Rhaenyra being "fond of, and more than fond of Laena" and turn that into another lesbomance.
>being a woman queen is hecking hard Ahh episode
Watched the episode. My only positive reaction was a wide grin when Corlys had enough of Rhaenyra's bullshit and shouted for everyone to hear that her sons are bastards.
>>221574794but who needs dorne? they are irrelevant >omg we have to bring dorne into the fold, we desperately need them!!>why? well uhm just because they are obsessed with them since they couldnt conquer them with dragons
>violin screech >close up>yup you’re probably wondering how I got into this situation What a boring shitty ep, felt like watching the same scene over and over again. Don’t be an ensemble cast show then just focus on one character.
>>221574802How hard she fingered herself over the Rhaenyra/Alicent sex scene?
>>221574685>someone already saved it hehehehe
>>221574843I actually like the idea of the episode, it's just all the stupidity ruins it.
>>221574370Couldn’t finish the set in time and had to use a dothraki city one, they’re the same region right?
>>221574850Its a great memetic pic. Nice job to whoever anon made it
at least alicent had a small concern for her sons. its not much but better than before
>>221574843the whole episode is hammering home the fact that shes a shit queen
>all these chuds second guessing rhaenyra and being obviously treasonous to her face Then you should have been team green if you’re so rebellious and cool and mysoginist you poser fags, don’t back step now
I find that fake Daeron is very cute
>>221574843Its the best episode since season 1 though
>>221574227I thought she meant "how are you going to dress for the banquet"
>>221574843Its an episode where they rushed all the plot points that will lead to Rhaenyra almost fumbling a 6/1 dragons lead in the war, but as rushed its mostly bad
I FUCKING HATE HOTD SO DAMN MUCHFUCK CONDALLFUCK HESSFUCK HBOAND MOST IMPORTANTLY,FUCK THE FAT MAN
>>221574517yes nukes give you insane fucking leverage
Macbeth Act 3 did it first
I can't tell if the writers actually want to portray Rhaenyra as pathetic and in over her head or notLike the rat feast was framed as a girlboss moment but it's such a ??? thing to do how do you even defend this?
>entire episode is a humiliation ritual for Rhaenyra and her retarded decisions>Manderly calling her dumbass out>rich nobles who are in the right for being scared and hoarding because Targshits have fucking DRAGONS are vindicated at the feast and all hate RhaeRhae now>Alicent lmaoing at herAegon2Bros...are we back?
>>221574196among many many things that are missing and make no sense this one would have happened 100%.At least one of the triarchy cities would have been burned to ashes by the dragons, if not all 3 and plundered/looted/blackmailed before burning them as to pay for the mess they made in westeros with their pirates etc. Fly dragons, get gold and goods, burn them afterwards. One of the 3 cities or all 3.This would have happened 100%.Her son was killed by triarchy forces.This is ASS.
>>221574893It was so repetitive it ended up feeling like “look at all these simpletons coming to Boss Queeny with their simple complaints”
>>221574332why do greens have so much aura? daemon looks like a literal rat
honestly team green would be perfect if aemond didnt betray aegon. it could be chuds vs women and black people
>>221574409he was
Women are bad rulers because they get periods and it makes them emotional and irrational
>the richest house in the land steals from the houses who fund her and claims they are greedy Her IQ is so low it’s insane
>>221574822>they are irrelevantstrait status? yeah that's why you need dorne
>>221574924>>221574934I guess Otto was right about her
>>221574594>>221574603Not how targ blood works
Episode was pretty ok desu, the most retarded thing was, when taking fake Daeron hostage, they just leave his dragon with Hightowers and dont get suspicious when that dragon doesnt follow his rider.
>>221574843>"Your Grace, we need food."UH UH UH*period cramp*>Daemon suggests conquering the planet*steps on a rat*ALICENT WHAT SHOULD I DOOO
the show was doomed to be shitty when the writers picked a side and turned it into the good guy black team vs the evil hightowers, instead of framing it as a pointless targaryen civil war
>no Aegon or Aemondno wonder it was a boring episodehow long has Cole's army been marching on Harrenhal? like four fucking episodes?in the same time the riverlanders marched from the Red Fork to the God's Eye and then to the Reach lmao
>>221574573valyrian beauty has always been a bit zesty
>my children are not bastards >:( >same person does incest Wtf kek
When was it said fake Dearon was a girl?
>>221574919The KANGZ soon will realized Vaemond was right and they will join team Chuds in the very last hour
>>221574594>>221574603Especially odd since we know how Targaryen blood works, it's recessive (hence the inbreeding).
>alright nephew come with us and take your dragon along, we don't want the hightowers to reclaim it in case we execute youwhat do
>The lord of the tides stared at the new-made queen, his ears ringing from having heard her flimsy excuses. His mind flashed of memories of all the sacrifices he and his have made for her, from sacrificing his wife and her dragon to accepting clear bastards as his offspring to hide his son's shame, aiding her with men loyal to him to fight the Triarchy. His granddaughters wed to her sons with no link to his, a blessing in terms of blood but a curse in terms of politics. He only had a minor request, the legitimization of his bastard sons, a way to clean the slate and bring some balance to his house, both aided her too much to deny his request.>She denied it. The flimsy queen denied it and his blood kept on boiling with the fury of a seahorse ramming a crab to protect his young. In the back of his mind he heard a voice most familiar and with no thought in his mind and rather with the care in his heart and need for justice he yelled,>"BASTARDS!"
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>>221574919They'd be good if they respected Viserys wish and didn't try to steal the crown
They made daemon so dumb I kinda like him now. Retard brute kino like Victorian
>>221574993fDaeron quivering
Why didn't Daemon tell "Daeron" to ride his dragon back to KL with them? Why did he let them keep their mini nuke??
>>221574869i mean anyone would be if they had absolutely no money to work with
>>221574957Did this happen in the books or how did it happen?
What happened to Alicent's older brothers?
>>221574993High Septon introduction
>finally get to watching it>its a Rhaneyra episodeYeah I think I'm gonna skip this one. Do Aegon or Aemond show up? Ormund?
>Alicent literally sells her sons out >suddenly she has a conscious and seethes over Rhaenyra wanting to kill themHuh.
>>221574909it makes them look incredibly weak as well, they can go and kill a prince and nothing happens to them. pathetic writing.
>>221575004They would simply get it elsewhere
>>221575011It’s a bottle episode like the fly from breaking bad, its purely rhaenyra episode and it sucks
>>221575006It just doesn't happen, no Daemon there, no surrender, the real Daeron stays with the Hightower armies.
>>221575003I think he sent dragonkeepers to take it afterwards. Daeron might have escaped along the way if he had his dragon
>>221575027Looks like I'm skipping, then.
>>221574967don't you realize yet? Aemond is going to have all the boring scenes this season
>>221574978i said it
>>221574957the dragonkeepers were handling Tessarion (one comes back to KL at the end of the episode). It would be stupid to allow Daeron to fly his fast dragon>>221575006no, doesn't happen. Btw they skipped a few battles with Daeron and the Reacher lords
>>221575019Not even that, she sells out Daeron without a thought as well.
>>221574919>if aemond didnt betray aegon.fanfic, this never happens
>>221574993Ormund with the Hightower army when he goes to meet Daemon, but cut short before we see Daemon.Just would like the Hightowers.
>>221575037Go into it as a comedy and you’ll be fine. The violin string every time Rhaenyra gets called out for a shit decision is a wonderful addition to the show.
>>221575035but thats retarded no way the little guy is out flying caraxes ad the dragonseeds
Are Velaryon's dragon riders or not? Because how can Corlys' bastard ride one, but Corlys himself doesnt have a dragon?
>>221575019She saved Aemond by sending him away and she is saving the others by giving up Aegon. And she knows he's been a shit king anyway.
>>221574738damn I hate when faps turn shameful after the fact>>221574737crazy how changing small stuff sets up the dominos to fail>>221575042>six hours of alys' wild ride AGAIN
They be talking about my boi like he is some kind of MENACE
>lets take daeron hostage and just leave his dragon with the hightowersmy god this is stupid
Who is passing notes via rats?
>>221575068maybe alyn and addam are gaenor's bastards after all
>>221574967>AemondUnless they add more OC to their televised fanfiction, hes done with the main plot until season 4. Hes now trapped in the same Haunted House subplot of Daemon in the last seasonAegon's OC subplot of meeting again with Sunfyre tho may be a potentiall hidden gem
>>221575068>Velaryon's dragon riders or not?of all the valyrians only SOME members from the noble families/leading houses could become dragonriders. Even among valyrians having the blood/genetic/magical stuff that allowed dragoriding was extremely rare,
>>221575069Are there no native cats in KL? These retards hire "ratcathers" with fucking dogs to hunt rats in their castle but no one suggested bringing a litter of cats into the castle?
Were they trying to show Rhaenyra is a shit queen or were they doing a shit job showing she is a good Queen ?
>>221575072What are you even saying
>>221575076>Carries the entire Green Team war efforts despite being a brainless lizard
>>221574909I imagine that would have happened after the war, but it doesn't make a whole lot of sense to do that at the moment when she's still trying to consolidate power. Also, Vhagar is still around, she can't be sending her dragons off to another continent.
>>221575099She’s a shit queen but actually it’s not her fault and actually she’s a good queen, her intentions are pure and her downfall is due to other people. Cake and eat it
>>221575068Well they intermarried with Targs a lot so presumably some get the dragonriding genes anyway? Usually this wouldn't be discovered because they wouldn't get dragon eggs or risk their life trying to tame one. Alyn did it because it was a desperate situation and lost of people tried.
>>221575098inviting Lannisters into your castle is never a good idea
>>221575099She literally steals from her own nobles and gives it to poorfags. She is a retard and writers are very clear about it.
Coralys B plot makes me think of Robert not legitimizing Jon for me in Ckii
>>221574995he only named rhaenyra because he had no male heir at the time and to piss off daemon. he should have changed his mind after aegon was born and the targ dynasty would still rule westeros. but its all gone because he couldnt say no to his spoiled princess daughter
>>221574924>Women are bad rulers because they get periods and it makes them emotional and irrationalmad how humans figured this out thousands of years ago, and we're just rediscovering the same thing over and over again
>>221575068>dragon ridersthe number of people that can become dragonriders is in effect negligible. Could 10 to 100 people on the GoT planet,.
>>221574909You realize they have even more scorpions and there's no time to try this. Daemon basically lost to just some rando funded by these guys.
>>221575137or he could have not remarried, or could have ignored otto and alicent and kept rhaneyra there as hand and strengthened her claim instead of leaving himself wide open for a coup
>>221575082a dragon cant really do much without a rider
>>221575068All velaryons had targ blood due to centuries of intermarrying, corlys could probably try to claim one during the dance but he's already in his late 70s at that point and probably decided he's too old for this shit
Oh the kings word is law? Guess daemon backfire is the heir then
>>221575010
>>221575125shes like egg, she tries to help the smallfolk but angers the nobles in the process. shes a saint
>>221575160Wasn't officially named heir though? Just very vague implications that are not the same.
>>221574909Dragons are nerfed to just being fire breathing geckos in this trash. And to be honest i prefer them this way.
>>221575144>You realize they have even more scorpions and there's no time to try this.this siege weapon/scoprions of dragonslaying exists only on the GoT/hotd and is less believable than ne doing actual blood magic creating dragons in my back yard with a blender, ketchup, a lighter and some random lizard i caught.
>>221575068its whenever george writes them to be, its not complicated
>>221575167>shes a saint>angers high septon for literally no reasonshe is a w*man
>>221575159if they intermarried for centuries how come targs are snow white and velaryons are coal black? so called book readers cant explain this
>>221575125It was actually a decent idea to use a few minor nobles as scapegoats, should have specifically picked ones who already hated her but left the others alone or made a deal with those (loan her some money to be paid when they get back the treasury or something).
>>221575201Velaryons have a long and storied history of cuckoldry and homosexuality
>>221575175>Dragons are nerfedthe siege weapons have become hypersonics with rangefinders etc autotarget capacity. Aegon would not have conquered anything and the setting and story would not exist if the dragons were so vulnerable,
>>221574909>propagating the myth that dragons eat treasure
>>221575201because that's not true in the book, they all look like targs
>>221575175the small ones always were and that's on purpose
>>221575194well he basically called her dragons satanic black magic
>>221575154normally, when people aren't retards, a dynastic family doesn't want to end up with 1 fucking heirviserys was somewhat obligated to remarry and have a couple more kids, because a ruling family with few enough members looks like an easy targetand alicent was a fucking great choice for a wife, because she actually managed to have kids well, unlike the last one
Aegon finds the stash of gold hidden in the woods and in his delirium thinks it’s sunfyre but actually sunfyre is dead
>>221575116>Vhagarshe would have hunted and killed him already due to killng her son
>>221575168>handed the most important symbol of legitimacy and claim to the throne. The conquerors swordLiterally every single king handed it to his heir starting from Aegon I until Daemon. Not even the title of prince of dragonstone wasnt as consistent as passing the sword was
>>221575229dangerously based of him
>>221575229She hated him because he spoke the truth
>>221575239you probably need multiple dragons to kill vhagar and it will likely kill one or more in return
>>221575230>normally, when people aren't retards, a dynastic family doesn't want to end up with 1 fucking heirIt's funny how redditors don't seem to get this. They always bitch and moan about the idea of Viserys remarrying to have more kids.
>>221575116>consolidate power.she cannot if she had no gold, goods and her enemies are slain.The triarchy is as much as an enemy as her westeros enemies,
>>221575091he's getting vvitch cock up his aemond bussy next episode book it
>>221575229Basado. Immigrant Targs OUT
>>221575239>muh son No one cares not even the bastards mother
>>221575202No. In medieval/early Renaissance era city dwelling smallfolk are literally worthless trash wo only exists to be labor. They have no skill or craft you can make money from. Crippling and insulting your nobles is a shit idea that will hurt you and your kingdom long term.
>>221575242Aenys and Maegor though?If he had actually named him heir it would have mattered but he didn't.
>>2215752543 can kill him and 1 would die at worst.
>>221575266NOOOOOOOOOO! They lost their homeland! You have to accept them!
>>221575062
>>221575254If I was a writer I would just write an edgy chud version of me that one shots vhagar because he’s so special and cool though
>>221575258his last wife was a fucking dud, she had one daughter and miscarried like 3 or 4 times
>>221575269Yes but I mean a handful of people already known to be your enemies so anyone else interprets it as just you doing it because of that. It's not a horrible idea to blame the worst current issues on someone provided it's not anyone important and no one thinks you could do it to them too.
>>221575068The show implies Alyn and Adam's mother had Targ blood, while his actual kids and their kids have Targ blood from Rhaenys
>>221575279based, thanks!
>>221575283not as selfinserty if he dies doing it though
>>221575279insane aura fr fr
>>221575310Is that a millionaire shortbread?
>>221575316Unless he gives a cool badass quip about wanting to die before hand
>>221574455I /think/ you're supposed to believe it was Rae-rae being able to read her face faster than she could make up a lie? If so it's a terrible scene. If you take the show at face value All-cents is just fed up with her cracker spawn and deliberately trying to kill them so she can lez out with her supposed rival and then cry about men being horrible. But presumably if you asked the idiot writers they'd say you're not being media literate, and this is all just very advanced portrayals of women.
Is Rhaenyra a racist? She refused to fuck Laenor and passed off her aryan bastards as legit, and she won't legitimize Corlys bastards even after they helped her win a war.
>>221575236They keep hammering that sunfyre is dead but he's alive
>>221575301But she didnt need to blame the nobles in favour of smallfolk. Smallfolk have no arms, no money, no connections wtf are they going to do? Thats the whole point of the episode. She makes 2 big retarded moves, steals from nobles who make her money and then angers the high septon who actually keeps the smallfolk in check.
>>221574551>found his own cadet branchCrusader Kings players be like
>>221575333She didn’t refuse; she’s in a delicate position and couldn’t risk doing it right this second and, honestly, it’s quite sexist of Corlys to keep trying to force the point when Rhaenyra had already explained herself.
>>221575347>Smallfolk have no arms,Then how can they farm the land? Checkmate blueblood.
>>221575272I dont think Aenys had a child at the time, and he requested it back when Maegor was exiled
>>221575310Hellraiser: Pinhead (2025)
>>221575347>Smallfolk have no armsclearly they do because they are about to genocide all the dragons
>>221575279daemon looks like a smallfolk bleb next to him. based
>>221575076Day of the firebreath soon brother
>>221575347>Smallfolk have no arms, no money, no connections wtf are they going to do?Wait like three more episodes and see.
>>221575022>k incredibly weakits the no1 power on the planet due to their dragons and would demand compensation for the triarchy meddling
>admonishes the nobility for taking provisions during a blockade that SHE causedmy god I hate rhaenyra
>>221575333her husband is a Valyrian supremacist who talks about building a Thousand year Reich with her
why not give him the targaryen name? he would be loyal forever
>>221575412Targaryens have fallen.Billions of sheep must be ate.
>>221575333>She refused to fuck Laenorother way around
>one hour a day. >every few days Thanks rhaenyra. That’s a good amount of time for someone to see their kid.
>>221575435Wouldn't that make him and his offspring illegible for succession?
>>221575435we need the Ulf and Daemon show where they just go around getting drunk and fucking shit up on their dragons.
>>221575409>>221575422Dont they swarm poisoned, sleeping dragons in a very confined space and still die by the masses? Also, again, all because they have nothing to lose + High Septon promised them virgins in afterlife.
How would daemon's world domination quest go
>>221574437>Dayne and Blackwood bloodGRRM ripped off Dune. They were trying to breed all the magical houses to magicmax a future Targ.
who would win>satanic demon beasts created by blood magic>simple folk armed by their faith in the seven
Why is Westeros always on the verge of a famine? Why didn't Rhaenyra just open the Kingswood for a couple weeks?
>>221575435Is still cant believe Rhae tought giving actual mature dragons to literally who bastards was a good idea.
>>221575462You can pass laws legitimising royal bastards but barring their inclusion in the line of succession. That’s what John of Gaunt did with his bastard Beaufort clan.
House Targaryen lost the plot when they lost Blackfyre. They no longer bore the sword
>>221574196I wish we saw Daemon the Queen Consort realizing Ormund High T outsmarted him
>>221575454Gotta show who's boss. They ain't your guests.
>>221575333Corlys in the end became like his lil broTarg fucking shits
>>221575511I mean she’s the guest.
>>221574513>Take another Valium and go watch Desperate Housewives again, sweety
>>221575477well aegon conquered westeros with 3 dragons. now they have 6 + vhagar if they can kill aemond and give her a new rider. it would be easy
>>221574993Ormund and Daemon forget the war and instead let themselves be ruled by their immediate passion for each other. Ormund's troops masturbate approvingly.
>>221574540Yes. Which is really bizarre since if she was a Westerosi feminist, there was no reason for her not to support Rhaenyra from the start.
>>221575477Same thing that happening to Dany would be happen to him.>Dragons come>They bow, swore fealty>Dragons leave to "conquer" next city>They just laugh and continue business as usual.
Will Alicent the usurper get her lesbian grind on this season?
>>221574513this is either the best actress on the show or a literal autist they pulled in off the street. I can't tell.
>>221575489>Why is Westeros always on the verge of a famine? GURM took the question "what do they eat" to heart and the answer was "nothing". But it could also have something to do with all the wars wrecking planting and harvest seasons completely, giant standing armies raping the larders, firebreathing WMDs eating half your flocks. Which is actually brought up in the books/show. >Why didn't Rhaenyra just open the Kingswood for a couple weeks?She wanted to, the problem here is more about royal privilege and the other nobles recognizing a bad precedent being set by allowing the peasants to hunt that privilege. It undermines her with the nobles, and it makes her look weak. Peasants might get treasonous ideas long term.
>>221575477Essos is where all the magic is. They’re not shitting the bed at the sight of a dragon like those weak piss Westerosi ‘men’ are.
>>221575489>Why is Westeros always on the verge of a famine?because Jawge lacks imagination. the names and faces might chang slightly but the street stays the same
>>221574993Alicent & Rhaenyra scissoring scene
>>221575546>I had to get it on, Mysaria was making a move
Did ormund ever... you know... fake daeron
>>221574350pls respond
>>221574196there is food stored for the winter which are long, this seems to have vanished.....
>rhaenyra said anyone who kills aemond gets harrenhal>aemond is injured and at the mercy of alyswhy not just kill him? she could get the castle she wanted
Daemon takes Daeron away but leaves his dragon behind? Why though
>>221575379wrong, he had aegon in 26 and gave maegor the sword in 37
>>221575545>They bow, swore fealty>Dragons leave to "conquer" next city>They just laugh and continue business as usual.But now I want to see the Alexander or Napoleon of ASOIAF, bringing along an entire bureaucratic and academic apparatus and installing governors that change the culture and how the entire region works, and it's so effective even though they both snuff it, all the places they conquered remain steeped in the changes they made.
>>221575544Probably it won't suit the atmosphere of breathlessly overreactive drama in which these threads occur but I'd suggest it's just possible she's not a "westerosi feminist".
>>221574350I think the nigg was one of the dragontamers or whatever daemon sent to fetch daeron's dragon
>>221575594Dragon is useless without its rider
>>221575591Women are greedy, why settle for the castle when she could be queen of the 7 kingdoms with Aemond as her husband is her train of thought.
>>221575508The show kinda forgot about the magic swords by the end. The only one that was important was the dagger that they tried to kill Bran with, which was the most retarded thing in S1 that they would send a priceless ancient relic with a nameless assassin to kill a child.
>>221575579well hes>white>male>team greenhe was probably raping her non-stop
>>221575477>killed by faceless man 3 weeks inThey caused the doom once already and the dragonlords back then were much more powerfulYou think the faceless men would tolerate another wannabe valyrian world conqueror?
>>221575594>dragon just lets an obvious enemy kidnap her rider and does nothingWhy the fuck didn't Daemon find that suspicious? He understands dragons better than any living person.
>>221575564they march with pride under the rule of their gay emperors bran and rickon
>>221574350Dragonkeeper who speaks fluent Valyrian turns out to be loyle to his capo, and that confuses you how? Isn't it obvious why he'd be a Targ man?
Makes sense why they gave the kid over so easy now, oh sneaky sneaky
>>221575608Then why does she want to help Rhaenyra murder her own sons?
>>221575634bad writing
>>221574350The "nigger" is a dragon keeper so loyal to ruling targs. I think hightower plan is taking hostage tumbleton to force Rhae hand into doing a civilian massacre so they can keep proving her being a shit queen.
Will Ormund rape Hugh's wife? Will Manderly rape Mysaria?
>>221575630Faceless men only acted when the casterly rock gold came in abundance
>>221575619i cant deny that this was based as fuck
>>221575638cares more about dragon welfare than anything else
>>221575619This was so based I won't post my picture where his head is a mop today.
>>221575634If you ever seen women horse riders then you will understand why the dragon was like "take the bitch I can get some peace"
>>221575489It's not always on the verge of famine, everyone just starts destroying each other's food supplies whenever war breaks out, and guess what's usually happening during the 3 novel series that we spend viewing their world?
>>221575630>faceless manthey are tricksters and not super-ninja warriors.
>>221575643I'm far from convinced that's even the case.
>>221575657I don't understand the Faceless Men. Why aren't they being hired constantly for political assassinations?>They are expensive!Yet we saw them being hired to kill random fishermen and theatre actors.
>>221575638are these guys valyrian themselves or just random westerosi people the targs indoctrinate?
>>221575630>faceless men would tolerateduring valyria they killed mostly if not exclusively each other as mercy killing and at most some whip wielding over-sadistic overseer.they are not heroes
>>221575685They also do things in their own time. Not handy when there’s a sense of urgency to your assassinations.
>>221575685this. arya killed the night king with faceless men skills. they could take out anyone, its absurd to suggest that aegon and the greens couldnt hire two assassinations on rhae and daemon for example. or daemon didnt hire them to take out aegon and aemond>they are so expensive that the rulers of an entire continent cant afford themthen who the fuck can lol
>>221575701>mercy killing and at most some whip wielding over-sadistic overseer.That was their training montage.
>>221575685>Why aren't they being hired constantly for political assassinations?they are religious fanaticsthey refuse most requestsrequest payment is according to target value, a king for lots of gold and a random mercenary for handful of themsome targets are outright refused as they realize they cannot kill them
>history is written by the victors>old valyria lostWhat if it wasn't actually THAT bad?
>>221575125Urban nobles are a minor power circle in Westeros where all the power is within powerfull rural landlordsIf you cannot defend your property to be robbed by the notoriusly weak golden cloaks, you are wortless
>>221575720faceless men are actually weak in direct combat and only kill via tricks, poisons, traps etc.they are a murderous nerd with some deception magic and conventional disguise training
>>221575720>arya killed the night king with faceless men skills.she could not kill a single wight with faceless men skills (even if she was the most skilled one), let alone a white walker or the night king
>>221575726Valyria still wrote the history and they died from volcanoes
>>221575201They are targ clones with recolored clothes (azure/white instead of black/red) in the books
>>221575675>>221575565>>221575563I just find it implausible that Westeros has on one hand large populations and especially large cities that surpass anything medieval, which means they must have a large food surplus and the means to distribute it. And on the other hand, the food supply is also quickly disrupted with no reserves or alternatives.
>>221575736>If you cannot defend your property to be robbed by the notoriusly weak golden cloaks, you are wortlessThey make the money which crown pays the Goldcloaks. What Rhae did was literally killing her only egg laying chicken because she was peckish.
Ormund just barely managing to contain his amusement at Daemon's plan
>>221575758George is a shit writer with no sense of scale, exhibit #ivelongsincelostcount
>>221575758It's mostly a Kings Landing issue. The city has too many people and not enough space.So they depend on a constant supply of imports but war and deliberate blockades can fuck that up with ease and the small folk immediately start to feel the pressure.
>>221575283>If I was a writer I would just write an edgy chud version of me that one shots vhagar because he’s so special and cool thoughSo just exactly what the Fat Man did with Daemon?
>>221575726>>old valyria lostwhat? by this logic every victor is a loser because they die at some point. therefore no one can be a victor
>>221575685They adjust their price depending who asks and for what
the Daeron storyline so far has been completely fumbledall this extra confusion with fake Daeron is just baffling
>>221575758i would say its a fantasy world but then again fatman is famous for shitting on other fantasies "aragorns tax policy" etc so yeah
>>221575720>ouldnt hire two assassinationsassume that dragonriders are people they refuse to kill for some "mysterious reason"the faceless men are just 5 to 15 people or somethingthey can change their faces if they have a mask of someone whose face they took, they have poisons, they can set traps etc and setup things as accidents.They suck in combat and are not ninja assassins from naruto.They cannot kill wights, white walkers, or the night king.Their combat skills are non-existent to crap. Arya would just die from a random wight with one arm and one leg,
>>221575793The Winter Wolves exist because the North, as vast and forested and sparsely populated as it is, still cannot produce enough food to feed its people. They should all be living like kings.
YOUR SON JACERYSLIVED AND DIED A FUCKING BASTARD RHAENYRAIS THAT YOU WANTED TO HEAAAR?A GODDAMN BASTARD
>>221575824they could still get close to rhaenyra by taking the face of the asian bitch or one of her handmaidens. daemon is a bit harder but still its doable. and aegon was basically a drunken coomer, just send some big brested bimbo to bang him and then kill him in his sleep
>>221575801Valyrians are extinct, but the people they oppressed (Faceless Men, Rhoynar, Ghiscari, etc.) are all still around telling stories about how mean Valyrians were.
>>221575857
>>221575857HE DIED LIKE A BASTARD!BECAUSE ONLY A BASTARD WOULD RIDE A DRAGON TO FIGHT ALONGSIDE MY SHIPS!
>>221575860>taking the face of the asian bitch or one of her handmaidensthat is another problem. They cannot take their faces.they cannot kill anyone in order to get to someonethey do not have all faces and are not facestealersif the do not have a face in their TEMPLE then they do not have that faceThey would disguise themselves as an unknown, take a crappy job and try to connect to some work in the palace, That would take years and they would poison her or cause an accident.
>>221575860they would have do do this ultra-slowly and use a slow acting poison or an accident. Years would pass.They would do everything possible, if they even accepted and the price for a queen that is also a dragonrider would be much higher than anything you can imagine but assume they accepted, to make sure nobody even remotely figured out it was a faceless man.As if it was even mildly suspected their death god temple would burn and melt and they would vanish from the face of the earth,
>>221575893vindicated
>offer hugh and ulf lordships, castles and whatever they want to switch sides>btfo rhaenyra with vhagar, vermithor and silverwingit would be this simple if aemond had some diplomatic skills instead of just autism powers
>>221575591>anon finds out the writing of HOTD is inconsistent
>>221575893still not a fan of black velaryons, but every single (male) velaryon in this show is based
>>221575860R; queen/princess and dragonriderDaemon; king/prince and dragonrider and legendary warrioraegon; king/prince and dragonrider they would refuse to even attempt to kill any of them.
>I cannot be seen favouring HightowersYOU FUCKING RETARDSHELENA IS A TARGARYENHER DAUGHTER IS A TARGARYENTHEY ARE NOT HIGHTOWERSALICENT MARRIED A TARGARYEN AND HAD TARGARYEN CHILDRENARE THE PEOPLE WRITING THIS SHOW THIS FUCKING STUPID?
>>221574513>please ride your dragon 1 (one) time and help me so we dont all get slaughtered by the enemy>"no"and for some reason aemond was the bad guy there. why is she like this
>>221575614oh that makes sense because why would Daemon let the hightowers keep the dragon? If its rider was coming to KL, so should the dragon.
>>221574513Literally asked Daemon in a vision to help Rhaenyra and told Aemond to his face that he was gonna die, she don't give af
>>221575985they have really bad taste in women. imagine if rhaenys was still alive, she would probably shit on corlys for talking to rhaerhae like that and would make him appologize
>>221576011Because its team black vs team green. You are supposed to pick one and cheer, not think.
>>221576011one drop ruletarg + hightower=hightowertarg+strong=strongtarg+targ=targthis is why a targaryen should only bang family members to preserve his bloodline
>>221574218why was the dragonkeeper dude at that town and reported to the queen? They are supposed to be in the dragonpit and dragonstone. not a moving circus.
>>221576140Aegons mom is black and aenys is a bastard from a singer
>>221574227why do they hate him so much?
>>221576171isnt that Obama?
>>221576180They hate his commoner charm.
>>221574270>they went full fanficHouse of the Dragon was always a fanfic. George only provided some characters, but the story was written by Elio Garccccia-Antonsson and his wife Linda Antonsson. GRRM then approved the bare bones stories, put his name on it
Will there be a Valyria series?
>>221576236who should someone rational actually root for in this menagerie of retards? Aegon was the best choice so far. Even the transpirate was more grounded and worthy than any of the actual leaders.
The show failed at making Rhaenyra angry and vengeful. It's now baffling to rewatch S1 and see the final scene of Rhaenyra's face turning into an angry scowl, when she spends 99% of the future episodes being an anxious indecisive mess whose decisions are rarely effected by anger.
>>221576264Yes. 2028 apparently
>>221575772What was the logic here>oh heh you're taking the fake I set up so now we have a small dragon rider and aemond now we'll certainly win the war
Would servants and maids of the red keep really bother the queen about candles and shit
>>221576339no, of course notthat's like going up to the CEO of your company and asking if he can buy you a new packet of pens
>>221574794Sure but the marriage politics make no sense in asoiaf
>>221576339candles in the middle ages were essential. this is why wax and later sperm and tallow were economy defining products. europeans exterminated whales for it. the only reason honey production came to europe was because of the wax. bees aren't native outside of egypt. no candles means no light inside a castle, not just during the night.
everyone go to the lavatory in amazement
>>221575279What's with GoT and HotD formation design that makes them look so ass? And who the fuck puts their cavalry in the middle of a formation?
>>221576330the logic is rhaenyra is a retard and will 100% fuck up, so if someone can just have a targ and their dragon in reserve, they can take over effortlessly once the dust settles
>>221575857imagine saying this about the guy who just died for you
>>221575857One rejection and he shows his incel self yikes
>>221576313Is this poster real? Are they really going full african congoid Valyria?
>>221575860>taking the face of the asian bitch or one of her handmaidens.if the face is not "given" it cannot be taken.If they actually sat down to cut down faces from their targets they would be discovered and destroyed centuries ago.
>>221576475its gonna be saka zulu the 80s series but in valyria with dragons and shit
>>221576475>>221576502Everywhere Valyrians go, it turns to shit. and they constantly cry about slaves and oppresson while having dey dragons and keeping dey slaves and burneng dey peopil
>>221575594They explained it poorly but Tessarion was temporarily at Tumbleton before being moved to the dragonpit and they thought this wasn't any real concern with the rider in captivity or dead This will be explained as part of Ormund's plan because he knows he still has Tessarion's real rider which helped them occupy a town so close to King's Landing
>>221576269>who should someone rational actually root for in this menagerie of retards?Aemond of course
>>221576440It requires far too many fuck ups on the black side and assumptions the green side is still united despite him not even knowing what's gone on with aegon / aemond
>>221576645I can't trust someone who has been stabbed in the arsehole. Sorry Renly fans
>>221576645>root for the guy with the largest dragon and valyrian steel sword/armour who somehow manages to get mortally wounded by a literal gormless retard with a dinner knifewe can do better than this
>>221576661>It requires far too many fuck ups on the black sidewhich are happening, and will continue to happen>and assumptions the green side is still united despite him not even knowing what's gone on with aegon / aemondnot really, one could assume aegon is dead and aemond is MIA, so ultimately if you're ormund you'd just prop up daeron and become his hand, alicent and helaena don't matter, rhaenyra is being a cunt to all her peopleormund doesn't win, but it is what you'd do
>>221576727>>221576750You realize the tv show is from the perspective of the Blacks, right? In reality that didn't happen.
>>221576819>You realize the tv show is from the perspective of the Blacks, right? In reality that didn't happen.yes, Ameond. We believe you are a virgin.
>>221575501Ohhh yes that definitely worked
new thred
>>221576782>which are happening, and will continue to happenThat they aren't aware of and shouldn't know are going to happen>not really, one could assume aegon is dead and aemond is MIA, so ultimately if you're ormund you'd just prop up daeron and become his handLiterally a few miles away from the base of the enemy with 5 dragons?How does this not sound retarded to you?
>>221577025>Literally a few miles away In medieval war, two armies will be within sight of each other for like 2 months before anyone does anything.That's basically how it still works today, too.Keep in mind, the greens win the fucking battle that results from this.
>>221575864>Valyrians are extinctno, the entire countries of Lys and Volantis have massive pure blood valyrian population, and all of western essos have a massive "diaspora"
>>221577210there's enough for there to be one or two token silver haired girls at every brothel basically
>>221576953no
>>221577210they are of different valyrian stock
>>221577210>the blood of old Valyria reduced to fucktoy sex slaves Grim
>>221577338make a new thread before I piss myself
Brown volantis mutt niggas looking at a statue of an Aryan dragon lord and be like “my ancestor”
>>221577157I get that but I'm talking about from their perspective it's completely ridiculous they'd not adapt to the situation being completely fucked against them
>Ay yo, lil broke nigga. My bastards be reppin' yo shit and dey baby mamas all up my ass. You finna make it legit or what?How would King Bran handle Lord Corlys' request?
>>221577408>volantis = India Ohhhh it makes sense now with the elephants and all that
>>221577379no, volantis had cousin of dragon rider family who were dragonless during the war against the rhoynarIt's only the valyrian dragonrider themself who died, not the people or their extended family in their colonies (and ofc the targ)
Do wildlings not know how boats work? Why not just sail around the wall?
>>221577462no, volantis valyrians have not dragonrider blood whatsoever,
>>221577462dragonrider blood was possessed only by some members of the noble families in old valyria, so then it would be a few thousand dragonrider capable valyriansand now it would be a negligible number, 10 to 100 or something extremely rare and low
>>221577462Its pretty contrived that out of a race of dragon riders that ruled most of the known world, only 1 family of dragon riders survived. There really wasn't a single dragon lord with his dragon off in Yi Ti or Summer Isles at the time?
>>221574196so the 1st and 2nd battle of tumbleton, probably merged as one is the next episode or somewhere down the line but closely?
>>221577427>How would King Bran handle Lord Corlys' request?knock knock my politically incorrect racial epithets
>>221577427Rape
>>221577551having the blood was extremely rare
>>221577551The arm of the Maesters is long
>>221577551it was a cataclysmic event
>>221577515>This series of conflicts reached a bloody climax a thousand years ago in the Second Spice War, when three Valyrian dragonlords joined with their kin and cousins in Volantis to overwhelm, sack, and destroy Sarhoy, the great Rhoynar port city upon the Summer Sea.>three Valyrian dragonlords joined with their kin and cousins in Volantis>Valyrian dragonlords>their kin and cousins in Volantis
>>221577427Damn, man. Way to keep a nigga down, my nigga. I mean, thank you, I guess. It's payment for all the work a nigga put in for you gettin' them dragons and shit, you know what I'm talkin' about? Give a nigga just enough money to get him a little Arbor gold and a bucket of chicken on the way to the poor house, huh?
>>221577666>>Valyrian dragonlords>>their kin and cousins in Volantiskin and cousins, they were related but clearly did not have dragonrider bloood and the relation declares they were just valyrians as well and not that the volantis valyrian blood nobles were dragonrider capable.
>>221577666Volantene "Old Blood": While the "Old Blood" of Volantis (who live behind the Black Walls and rule the city) do have pure Valyrian ancestry, their ancestors were primarily the lesser nobles, administrators, and merchants of the Freehold. They never possessed dragons.True Dragonriders: House Targaryen, along with their close allies House Velaryon and House Celtigar, were the specific families of Valyrian descent that relocated to the western outposts like Dragonstone before the Doom of Valyria. Of these, the Targaryens were the true Dragonlords.
Helaena is the best casting in the show. She looks the part of inbred retard better than any of the others.
>>221577413>from their perspectivefrom ormund's perspective, he knows or believes Rhaenyra is retarded (which is true), her heirs weren't legitimate (and are dead anyway), and that woman shouldn't rule regardless (which is also true)
>aerion had plenty of bastard at lys during his exilso dragonrider blood is everywere ?
new thread ?
