Its a great film, people hate on it because of Kevin Smith, and the fact that creep Weinstein held onto the rights for years didnt help either.
>>221588224>creep weinsteinnigga Kevin Smith is way creepier he's that dude that posted about owning his wife's brown taint like wtf keep that shit to yourself faggot
>>221588224looks like religion/antireligion slop
>>221588259lol what???
>>221588224The 2nd half is kind of retarded but it's still overall a solid flick
>>221588269I wouldn't call it antireligious, but it does poke fun at religion, particularly Catholicism. Kevin Smith is a lifelong Catholic, iirc.
>>221588259Actully he said his wife’s brown owned him, completely different connotation.>>221588224Yeah dogma is pretty good.I always forget about the bad part in the middle though
>>221588269Its not really like that...
Catholicism WOW!
>>221588224Yeah. It is a good movie.>>221588269It was honestly just poking fun. It's absolutely not meant to be taken seriously. However if Kevin Smith had made it today he would certainly be doing it from a narcissistic perspective. He lost the plot, unfortunately.
As a preteen atheist I hated this movie not because I was afraid of Catholics or whatever but because I thought this movie was embarrassing to atheists. Also I hate Kevin Smith because I recommended that my friend group should watch the Jay and Silent Bob Movie because I liked Clerks and it was a gigantic pile of shit.
>>221588259>naming your daughter after a cartoon you want to fuck
>>221588381the jay and silent bob movie was abysmal
>>221588224BEAUTIFUL BIG TIDDY BUTT NAKED BITCHES JUST DONT FALL OUT OF THE SKY YOU KNOW
>>221588381Jay and Silent Bob Strike Back is gold but it sure the fuck is vastly different than Clerks. I can understand liking one and not the other.
>>221588295he is not a catholic. religion is not inherited. it is practiced or it is not.
>>221588418He could have just ended it there.
>>221588432He was Catholic. He is eft the faith because his dog died or some shit and he said some retarded babble about his dog not worrying about going to hell.
>>221588313No it "pOwned" him
>>221588460I think Clerks 2 was serviceable. It also introduced me to those fat titties. I've never seen Tusk, but from what I hear that should have probably been his last movie.
>>221588484Clerks 2 wasnt great but it was wayyy better than the silent bob and jay movie
>>221588224>hate onStop conjugating like a nigger. It is just hate, not hate on.
>>221588497noone even axed u, stfu
>>221588224>Its a great film, people hate on it because of Kevin SmithNo. I don't hate it. I was however TERRIBLY let down by the movie because I remember reading the script on Drew's Script-o-Rama (babyfags don't even know) long before the movie was announced, and its genuinely a really good script. And a lot of it makes onto the screen, and the cast is across the board pretty great. Alan Rickman playing the voice of god like he's Marvin the Paranoid Android. I remember my friend thinking I was being "That Kid" when I said I read the script, and when the shit demon rises and I was like "SHIT DEMON!" he looked over at me, and apologized later. That being said, I was the perfect age when kevin smith was first breaking out with clerks that I was a pretty die hard fan. It was a great script, I would have loved to see it directed by someone else.
>>221588381>embarrassing to atheists.He's not really an atheist. Smith was raised catholic, and a lot of the movie was him trying to reconcile the virtuous parts of religion he saw in conflict with the modern catholic church.
>>221588488I will note my dad audibly groaned during the ABC dance scene, kek.
>>221588563This, its really not hard to get.
>>221588484He could have ended it at clerks 2 too.
>>221588313iPhones are for women
>>221588515>It was a great script, I would have loved to see it directed by someone else.yeah, growing up is realizing Kevin Smith was a born 'music video' director..and on occasion he could sandwich a few funny skits together long enough to be considered a movie. there was some gold in there, but like an episode of SNL the good parts are too far between. Would've loved to see a Spike Jonze version of Dogma
>>221588589Sure. That would have not mattered to me. Clerks 3 is cruel and Reboot is fucking God awful as is any movie with his hideous daughter.
>>221588224i think it was funny as shit when i first saw it on vhs, crazy how hard smith fell off post jay and bob strikes back
>>221588626it's him and michael moore that were cool up to 9/11 probably, then by 2005-2006 they were uncool
>>221588589I can agree with this
Its almost so much of an aberration that you have to do a double take to remember Kevin Smith wrote it. It deals with some very deep Catholic spirituality in a way that comes across as a man coming to terms and grips with his own faith. This was probably the high water mark in terms of writing and directing that Smith ever got to. He still got to work with Hollywood heavyweights because he was at the top of his game of being able to write slick dialogue and make it funny and witty and this was probably the absolute most introspective Smith was capable of getting while still getting in his weed and cock and fart jokes. As I said earlier, you're almost hard pressed to remind yourself Kevin Smith wrote and directed it because of how its more than just the surface level stuff he's coasted on and off of since. And then Seth Rogen introduced him to weed, and he's been fucked ever since.
>>221588651I think all the Evening With Kevin Smith are worth watching dude loved to tell stories to the point he made Affleck tell him to fuck off.
>>221588484Tusk is good.
>>221588728More like Affleck's wives and girlfriends thought Kevin was a loser and didn't want him hanging out with him anymore.
>>221588606No, I won’t edate you
>>221588716>he was at the top of his game of being able to write slick dialogue and make it funny and witty and this was probably the absolute most introspective Smith was capable of gettingAlan Rickman delivering this monologue was the closest I ever felt to Jesus as a lapsed Catholic. When he was on, he was good. too much weed, too much believing his own press. idk
>>221588797If I recall it was Jennifer Garner who had an issue with Kevin and Ben's relationship because they were goofy fucked and it gave her the ick.
My very Catholic father loves it.
>>221588515What did you dislike about the direction?
>>221588626>crazy how hard smith fell off post jay and bob strikes backRed State wasn't bad at all. Its not the greatest movie, but the ending managed to trick me twice. I didn't even realize it was a kevin smith movie until the end credits.
>>221588826>Goofy fuckedSounds hot Which one was the bottom?I can just image Ben forcing Kevin to wear a goofy mask while Ben does the voice ‘hiuuup, time to get sodmized boy”. While Kevin leaks in his shorts from being molested flashbacks while counting the number of times he has to get fucked so be. Agrees to be in his movie.A goofy fuck indeed
>>221588728> Evening With Kevin SmithThey are all extremely over rated, you are just remembering with rose tinted glasses
>>221588933>What did you dislike about the direction?not OP..but to me, it didn't feel like a cohesive movie. just a mashed up storyboard of a few funny skits mixed with time fillers in between. Like an earlier Joss Whedon, funny quipy dialog but ends up feeling like a 2 hour tv show instead of a movie
>always wondered how Mewes got into heroing>check it out>his whole family was/is int heroindamn
>>221589032>They are all extremely over rated, you are just remembering with rose tinted glassesearly internet days when we didn't have so much behind the scenes/star access. for movie/comic nerds it was access we'd be wanting. but now the curtains been pulled off and it's lame
Why doesn’t he direct a street hockey movie?
>>221588933Its not any on thing specifically, I just think it was his reach exceeding his grasp. Especially when until then his films until then had been pretty standard blocking. Now you're doing a big biblical epic I think its necessary to just shoot the movie in a much different way than a few 20-somethings bullshitting at work or the mall. And Smith IS a comic book guys, so I don't know why he didn't try to shoot the thing just a tiny bit more dramatically. Part of the joke is grounding fantastical stuff and making it mundane, but it still needs a little more zazz.
>>221588819That's exactly what I'm talking about; he was able for a brief moment to humanize man (and woman's) role in the cosmic dance and where we fit in it all according to the scriptures Smith learned while growing up in his faith. That one scene of Chris Rock recalling stories about him and the disciples hanging with Jesus and how when they would sit around a fire, they would talk about the most boring, mundane shit but Jesus always listened with a smile on His face.He's proven he's capable of these flashes of brilliance and introspection and when he more or less stay's in his lane of writing dialogue, he can more than anything come up with some fairly deep and thoughtful things. The weed and the heart attack neutered him in some respects.
>>221589150Why hasn't he directed an episode or series in these shitty Star Wars TV shows?
>>221588563Hundreds of millions of people are raised catholic and don't give a shit about religion.Smith is just a another fat faggot that hates the west.
>>221588224Like all Kevin Smith movies, it's cool when you're 14, then you cringe watching it 10 years later
>>221588497esl moment
>>221589243Dogma and clerks are still funny, even 2 isn’t bad and holds up ok.
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>>221589289this guy is such a cringe faggot
>>221589289What’s his fucking problem?
>>221589289dick PWNT
>>221589219>hates the west.fucking anti woke people have officially become more annoying than woke people. 1999 movie with one black guy...who white people love due to his whole 'there's blacks...then there's niggers' skit. like fuck off back to nuPol. christ>>221589184>when he more or less stay's in his lane of writing dialogueyeah, i wish we lived in a timeline where he just wanted to be a script writer and was Tarantino's right hand man or something. He's got a talent, but 'film maker' is one rung too high
>>221589411He lost his creativity with the weight
>>221589184>brief moment to humanize man (and woman's) role in the cosmic dance and where we fit in it all according to the scriptures Smith learned while growing up in his faithfollowed by 'snoogin's' and 'le weed' jokes. jay & silent bob should have sat this one out. would have lost some of that 14 y/o audience, but could have made a longer lasting impact
>>221589451He’s been creatively active for 30 years
mallrats was alright, couldn't be made today
>>221589630Isn’t there a sequel in the works?
>>221589622It would be kinda hard to find a stand in for the comedy needed to break up the more dramatic and serious moments. Personally, I agree with Smith in regretting that he didn't cast Lorraine Bracco as Bethany. He probably would have gotten along better with her.
>>221589696>kinda hard to find a stand in for the comedy needed to break up the more dramatic and serious momentskek, serious? these two were in the movie
>>221588497>When all my best doth worship thy defect, Commanded by the motion of thine eyes? But, love, hate on, for now I know thy mindliterally Shakespearean English so fuck off
>>221589696>regretting that he didn't cast Lorraine Bracco as BethanyI never minded Linda Fiorentino, she was the straight man/audience stand in. Her not being anything special felt okay.
>>221589382i dont think hes calling it woke due to chris tucker being in the movie anon
>>221589751Their type of cynical black pilled comedy is not the type that would break tension in a film about catholicism. You need unassuming retards like J&SB to keep things from getting too preachy and/or depressing.
>>221589629But hasn't done anything worth a damn since Strikes Back.
>>221591687Red State and Tusk were kino
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