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Arthouse & Classics

Glorydition

>QotD
Favourite /film/ about /film/making?
>Bonus
Favourite work of /film/ic self-parody?

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Queen of /film/
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Remarkably Bright Creatures is a great film.
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ah so a j/film/ is okay but not a k/film/ I see how it is.
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>>221704288
Yes, now fuck off.
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>>221704215
>QOTD
Le mépris (1963), easily.
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>>221704411
Based.
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Brakhage and Solomon linked up.
need it or keep it????
-smooth

they really assault you at the end
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>>221704288
No, please stay.
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>>221704792
Based.
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"they want a modern market now" - Mekas
-smooth
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Why didn't you save her?
-smooth
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I don't like opera.
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tout est grace
-smooth
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>>221704757
>>221705121
>>221705169
>>221705198
these posts brought to you by smoothhands, of letterboxd fame (https://letterboxd.com/smoothhands/list/100/)
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why are there literally no other movies like this
maybe i should just watch other Ken Russell movies. I like The Devils. Theyre both 10/10
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>>221705224
My nigga you punjabi
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>>221705483
His best film is Salome's Last Dance, which is literally filmed theatre.
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>>221704215

Viva il duce! viva il duce!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0f5XBSAFXf8
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>>221704260
That ain't Harper
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>>221704260
Is it remarkably great?
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JUST ONE OF THOSE DAYS
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>>221705193
Not even when Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger do it?
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>>221704215
>Favourite /film/ about /film/making?
>Favourite work of /film/ic self-parody?
what's the difference?
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>>221704215
>Favourite work of /film/ic self-parody?
one of the heroes of Mr. Moto Takes A Chance is a member of the American Society of Cinematographers
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>>221704431
>>221708783
This film has gotten relevant again as of lately, sadly.
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for me it's script girl
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>>221704219
BBBRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRAAAPPPPPP
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>>221709396
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>>221709578
Did Kieslowski rip off Godard?
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>>221709601
no, he used three different girls
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>>221704215
>never talk to me or my son ever again
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Yesterday
I saw Zift, a bulgarian black comedy
and The boxer's omen, a hong kong action movie that's a bit more zany than the rest
I had fun
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>>221706678
That ain't Field*

>>221707360
Yes!
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>>221710374
>Favourite work of /film/ic self-parody?
2026
i am forgotten
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What does /film/ think of John Landis's picks for a TCM programming day?
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>>221704215
Irma Vep

>>221704431
Even godard didn't like le mépris.
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>>221710496
actually checking on it, it's quite interesting to see the different people's choices across the years, there are some quality people over there to check on favorite movies on them to list...
>https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6865290/episodes/?year=2005

Yet they started the segment with Bill Cosby,
>Monsieur Verdoux
kek, fitting choice
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>>221710496
He deserved to be run out of the country
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Gilbert Gottfried taste is kino
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>Spike Lee choosing 50s MacArthurism era films
what did he mean by this?
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>>221710692
The joint maker always had exquisite taste
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ok I didn't expect him here but if they invited Hugh Hefner or Kermit the Frog to pick films why the fuck not
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>patton oswalt is a fan of ciro guerra
unexpected
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El abrazo de la serpiente
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Big up to subtitles that do this

Nice low budget Wakamatsu joint. It may be cheap but it has attitude. Doesn't have a profound message and it felt preachy at times in unnatural dialogue which was distracting at first but I got used to it. Me sharing similar sentiment helped. Nicely shot in 8mm I believe. Contains at least two different dame armpit hair shots. This was ghost written by Dingo.
https://gofile.io/d/Cd415S
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>>221711021
>dude rape and kill women and I'm a communist lmao
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>>221710760
he really had his butler look up "best classiest movies for best smart people"
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Shirley MacLaine mogged by Deng Xiaoping
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>>221711141
Shirley MacLaine believes in Atlantis and telepathy
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>>221711141
>"That professor was lying."
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>>221711141
Owned that gweilo freak.
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>>221711165
She also (allegedly) had sex with Satan.
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>>221710661
He might have been a hockeyfag tho
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>>221711346
>Kissinger was romantically linked to Shirley MacLaine, Marlo Thomas, Candice Bergen and Liv Ullmann. He also was photographed at the sides of Raquel Welch, Elizabeth Taylor and Liza Minnelli. There were countless more who did not have recognizable faces or names. “He had a weakness for young, beautiful lesser-known types,” writes Walter Isaacson in Kissinger: A Biography. “[They] offered, at least in the abstract, the aura of something more illicit.” They included Judith Brown, star of the X-rated 1970 Danish film Threesome, and Lada Edmund, a stuntwoman specializing in motorcycle and car crashes who worked on Smokey and the Bandit and with Evil Knievel.
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>>221710760
Not sure if this was posted here but Trump did a film review more profound than what the average /film/ user is capable of
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aeQOJZ-QzBk
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>>221711141
To be fair, the cultural revolution personally fucked over deng xiaoping, and so I doubt he would have said anything positive about it at all.
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>>221704215
>Favourite /film/ about /film/making
Probably 8 1/2

>Favourite work of /film/ic self-parody
Depends on what you mean, if just a director being self-effacing or otherwise metatextually portraying themselves then perhaps All That Jazz, if you mean directors devolving into pastiches of themselves, intentionally or not, then I'll say Starship Troopers.
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burn local
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>>221711757
Post in the wrong thread, faggot?
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>>221711757
gook for this feel?
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>>221712060
now post the Godard cameos
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>>221711109
Hit that freak with a cab at full speed.
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>>221712093
these are the only screencaps I saved
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>>221711426
His daughter is hot as fuck now.
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>>221711659
it's funny because Contempt is based on the divorce of the actress who plays the prostitute in Journey To Italy
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I think the Italian artist responsible for this poster legitimately thought Anne was Chinese.
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>>221712290
Wait. She's not?
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>>221712122
hate to be that guy, but
>now
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>>221711141
kek of course he was lying, cultural revolution was an "open doors country side" punishment jail in the countryside for those who suffered it. Still she shouldn't have been allowed to return back to America after that and should have been executed as an american traitor after landing the plane in US soil
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>>221711437
Kissinger was the Weinstein equivalent back then in terms of international politics
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I have no particular comment to make, but it seems like a good time to bring up this documentary.
>How Yukong Moved the Mountains
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>rewatched Gummo for the billionth time again award
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I wanna treat Ophelie Bau's asshole like an emergency eye wash station
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Michel Piccoli reminds me of Pierre Woodman.
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>>221712757
Ba(u)sed.
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>>221711563
>8 1/2
>All That Jazz
Both genuine 10/10s.

>>221712333
lole checked!
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Pascal's Sub Sluts
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What annoys me most about Contempt is that it makes fritz lang look like a gay artfag. Fucking godard. He wishes he had lang's filmography.
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>>221713598
No it doesn't.
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Lang telling Godard to shut up because he's the one talking now on Cinéastes de notre temps.
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>>221713408
The women in those are mostly so unattractive.
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>>221713340
I appreciated 8 1/2 a lot it’s genuinely impressive but it was very on the nose with its pretentiousness and this is from an incredibly pretentious faggot
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Cucks arent allowed to watch Teenage Sex
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>>221713669
Does too!
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>>221714399
Sad!

Imagine being a sad pathetic cuck when you could be worshipping this Goddess instead.
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Sunday afternoon, it's gonna be Pépé le Moko.
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>>221714761
Excellent choice
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this is not parker posey
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>>221715240
Huh...
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>>221713340
Agreed, thank you

>>221713939
I don't see how it's pretentious, I understand it could seem that way since it codified a lot of conventions self-regarding arthouse types tend to use but the film itself isn't ostentatious beyond it's merit, if anything, I think it's kind of self-deprecating.
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What are some essential movies from the '30s? I'm only watching films from that period at the moment.
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Come join us (cucks not welcome)

>>221715265
>>221715265
>>221715265
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>>221715928
Trouble In Paradise
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>>221715928
Menschen Am Sonntag (1930)
Morocco (1930)
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>>221715928
All Quiet On The Western Front
M
Shanghai Express
GoldDiggers of 1933
The Merry Widow
It Happened One Night
Captain Blood
Fury
Captain Courageous
Robin Hood
Gunga Din
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>>221715928
Scarface
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Any recommendations for bleak films like An Elephant Sitting Still? Preferably with a good soundtrack like An Elephant. I’ve already seen everything by Tarr.
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>>221716114
>The Merry Widow
Gigabased.
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>>221716150
honor de cavalleria (2006)
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>>221715928
See >>221714761
>>221715019
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>>221715928
Grand Illusion
Rules of the Game
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>>221715575
No problem, fren

>>221713939
Sure, it's on the nose but given how incredibly introspective and self-conscious Fellini is, it makes complete sense within the narrative, much like Fosse in ATJ and Woody in Stardust.
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>>221716043
>>221716147
I've seen these:

>Trouble in Paradise
It was fine
>All Quiet On The Western Front
I respect what it was trying to do, but I'm not really into war movies
>M
Great film
>It Happened One Night
This was cute
>Robin Hood
Loved it
>Scarface
I guess gangster movies just aren't my thing either. I wasn't really into this one or Angels with Dirty Faces, and the comic relief character in this one feels completely out of place with the rest of the film

I'll add the ones that aren't already on my watchlist.

>>221716114
I loved The Spiral Staircase. Did Siodmak ever do anything else in that vein? I also really liked The Killers

>>221716215
>>221716262
They're already on my watchlist, but thanks
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>>221716837
Fucked the quotes up like a newfag
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>>221713598
Actually, Lang looks like an alpha male in that film.

>>221713717
Usually yes, but there are some good episodes, and I value attitude more than looks. That's part of why Brigitte Bardot kinda sucks on Contempt, lol.
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Paul Schrader wrote this?
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>>221715928
Zemlya
Alexander Nevsky
"M"
The Public Enemy
Stagecoach
Grand Illusion
Boudu Saved From Drowning
Las Hurdes / Land Without Bread
Duck Soup
Shanghai Express
L'Atalante
>>221716150
Shijie / The World
The Red and the White
La Vie nouvelle
the list goes on
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I watched this movie
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>>221717519
And?
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>>221717519
Damn. Mike Nichols is a real favourite of mine. Carnal Knowledge, Catch 22, Virginia Woolf, he was beast mode dont know how i havent seen this one. He has this movie with Jack nicholson and warren beatty I cant remember its name but it looks pretty funny. Beatty has a twirling moustache
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What should I watch if I revisited Mirror and feel like wanting more of it but there seems like there's nothing quite like it
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Harry dean stanton is in everything
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>>221717534
Probably the worst, blandest, "political thriller" I've ever seen. Well it feels like the thriller aspect never really gets going. The premise is interesting but it's just a lot of George C Scott doing baby talk & swimming with dolphins. I say out with the Dolphin, in with the Condor
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>>221715928
Aside from some of the other ones already mentioned, I will suggest The Testament of Dr. Mabuse as well as Blessed Event (basically a movie about walter winchell).

>>221717196
His rendition of the odyssey looked ridiculously loft to me.
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>>221716837
>it was fine
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>>221717550
I can only think of three titles at the moment, but they don't come even close to Mirror.
Wild Strawberries
Mat i syn
The Stray White and the Speckled
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>>221715928
Gone With The Wind, Errol Flynn’s Robin Hood, The Thin Man, The Good Earth, Little Caesar, The Public Enemy, The Petrified Forest, The Last Gangster, Pygmalion, It’s A Wonderful World,
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>>221716837
>This was cute
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New Cute Extremity
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>>221715928
I Was Born, But... by Yasujirō Ozu
Vampyr by Carl Theodor Dreyer
Earth by Oleksandr Dovzhenko
Bringing Up Baby by Howard Hawks
The Testament of Dr. Mabuse by Fritz Lang

Just a few that I personally love and hadn't seen anyone here mention yet, hope you enjoy.
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>>221718870
I'm retarded and it turns out Earth and The Testament of Dr. Mabuse had both been mentioned, the former in it's original language, so I'll recommend The Blood of a Poet by Jean Cocteau and Goodbye, Mr. Chips by Sam Wood in their place.
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>>221718870
Earth/Zemlya was already recommended... The vitalism of that film is almost peerless.
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>>221717550
Ordet (1955)
Eternity and a Day (1998)
The Wishing Tree (1976)
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RNs need a balanced diet of bleak and vitalist films.
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>>221718805
I forgot Gunga Din, The Grand Hotel, Dinner At Eight, Treasure Island, Mutiny On The Bounty, and The 39 Steps
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>>221718953
Yeah, my bad. Glad someone else here appreciates the sensibility of it, though. One of the last great hurrahs of the pre-war Soviet avant-garde imo.
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>>221718993
Also The Prisoner of Zenda
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While we're on soviet flicks, what are people's thoughts on Aelita - Queen of Mars? Been meaning to give that one a go.
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>>221711426
Damn. She made it through puberty quite nicely.
Doesn't come after her father at all.
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Zerkalo sucks lol.
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>>221719094
Wew. I want her. Any advice?
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>>221719292
top 5 best /films/ of all time thoughbeit
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They really fucked Norway over, huh?
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>>221719571
L0L
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>>221719094
She cute. Like the saying goes: "adolescence doing you big favors body-wise"
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>>221719571
K3K
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Careful now.
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>>221719614
Cuck
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>>221715274
abloo bloo bloo bloo?
>>221715928
Mädchen in Uniform
>>221719319
ask her to do the voice
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>>221719833
Cuck paedo.
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>You see, Peter Bogdanovich has done something that all critics will never forgive him for. That is, stop being a critic, go make a film and have it be enormously successful. What he then did was go on talk shows and be rather arrogant about how bad critics are. That was the final straw.
>So there they were waiting with their knives and whatever, and along came Peter who finally gave them something they could kill him with. Unfortunately there I was, between Cybill's broad shoulders and Peter's ego, and I got killed along with the rest of them.

>>221719094
[philosemitism intensifies]
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>>221717315
Yes.
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My mouth is watering for some pumpkin pie.
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>>221719094
>>221719319
>>221719614
>>221720054
You can't tell from the picture posted but she has big naturals while being thin with a flat tummy, really crazy she was made by Gilbert Gottfried. And it's not like the mother is super hot or anything, it's just a regular middle aged jewish lady.
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>>221719076
it's no Cosmic Journey
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>>221720101
Because you're a filthy paedo lol... kys, freak!
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freak on the ropes
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>>221720421
Trueeee
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>indian cinema
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Stomach cancer status?
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>>221720512
Ur a pedo freak lol
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I actually don't understand why a pedo would get insulted by being called a pedo, like, wtf.
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Like, I mean, Polanski or Allen never gave a fuck about it, so why should you, who are a nobody and a freak, lol
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>Chesty Morgan had the largest natural bust measurement on record for a film star according to the 1988 edition of Guinness Movie Facts & Feats.
>Her second husband, Dick Stello, was an umpire in the National League of professional baseball. He was killed in a freak accident when he was standing between two parked cars and a third car hit one of the parked cars, crushing him.
>the third car was found to have been driven by Woody Allen
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>portugese cinema
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Shut up, Catfag.
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>>221720502
I liked Manjummel Boys
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>>221721016
>korean cinema
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>>221720190
I watched part of that gilbert documentary and her mom seemed pretty hot there.

>>221720252
Share a copy
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>>221721033
havent heard of this, actually looks interesting
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>dutch cinema
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>>221721016
Deepthroat him.
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>>221721553
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>>221719094
Yeah. I'm getting philosemitic over here
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>posting current year conventionally attractive women and not 83 year old hags from 1961
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>>221721016
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>>221721663
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Shoving catfag into the large hadron collider so his body gets stretched all the way around until his feet touch his head and he vanishes completely with a reverb fart noise
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>>221718724
>>221718956
Thank you lads
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>>221722019
You are welcome!
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>>221721681
>>221721730
Are these real? I'm a virgin so I can't tell.
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>>221722210
The first two seem real but that one seems suspect
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>>221722210
>>221722289
I took the pictures, it's real.
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>>221722540
Did you touch her boobs though? They look a little stiff.
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>>221721681
M I L K
I
L
K
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>>221722708
how does a boob look stiff
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Speak up, Catchad.
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>burundian cinema
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>>221722971
>stiff boobs
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>>221722741
If it's rounded and firm in areas that gravity would usually make sag. When someone has fakes like that they tend not to swish back and forth properly. You should know this...
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>>221723097
stiff is a bizarre adjective for what you are describing.

i banged a woman with globular fakies in college

>mfw they spun like helicopters
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>>221721681
Wearing so much make up and thinking she is attractive.
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>>221722019
no problem. hope you enjoy the recs.
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>>221723193
Big stiff silicone boobs were vogue in 90's pornography.
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>>221722092
>>221723407
based.

>>221723488
yes. that went all the way up through 2010 or so
>ywn helicopter prime jenna jameson
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>>221723749
What movie is pic related?
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>>221723864
the mother and the whore
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>>221723193
You’re 50 years old?
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>>221723999
might as well be
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It's gonna be either this...
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>>221724128
...or this.
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I’m drinking tea btw
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>>221724274
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>>221724344
Cute!
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>>221724394
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>>221724274
With me or against me?
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>>221724599
Against ritualposting retards.
Original posting rule when.
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>>221724616
Alright here's an original post for you, princess
>>221722005
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>>221724616
This is /film/ cuture
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>>221724760
Nope, it's just forced trash.
Oregano.
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>>221724631
Not him, but LHC jokes have been made here before.
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>>221724344
>>221724504
I'm about to keep it way to real. This chick is not hot. She's lukewarm at best. And the fact that you mfz like incest tells me that you have no game and the only p**** you can get is from your sister. That's just pathetic. And I see the way you guys reacting over these 18 year old girls. BAKA we both know that they are too old for you. It's cool to be freaky at kinky and all that s*** but some of y'all m************ predators that need to be locked up
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The God Crippled With One Leg
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>>221725015
cope
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>>221725015
Why are you censoring yourself?
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>>221724344
I wish to drink tea with she
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>>221724504
Is she 18?
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>>221725479
She's 59.
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>>221725479
Do you know which thread you're in?
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>>221725604
Idgi
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>>221712290
>>221712322
>>221725027
>>221725045
Pure evil.
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>>221726903
Ngmi
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>>221727342
To hell's Anneferno? I hope not.
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>>221728031
It was you who made it
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>portugese cinema
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>>221728352
Kek
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>japanese cinema
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>stealing catfag's bit
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Morning Fixbros and Gadonbros. Today we mourne the loss of Sarah Gadon costar Sam Neil. Please cease all cuckposting.
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>>221728513
nothing new under the sun
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>>221728550
Sad!
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>>221728550
>It's real
Can't believe a fucking Gadonfag post is how i find out. R.I.P., he was a good one.
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>>221729106
He will be forever immortalized in Gadonkino
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>>221729381
didn't realize my nigga Steven Weber was so tall.
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RIP
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>>221730219
Am I wrong or was Sam Neil genuinely underrated as a serious actor? People remember him as like a character actor, mainly as a nice adventurous dad in Jurassic Park. But he is phenomenal in Possession and also in Carpenter's In The Mouth of Madness.
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>>221730353
I guess Possession and In The Mouth of Madness are too difficult for the normalfag brain
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>>221730219
F
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more like a brighter incelish day
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>>221731434
Sent that chinese westophile freak flying
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>>221731434
More like An Orientalister Orientalist Grift
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>>221730353
I wouldn't call him a 'serious' actor. He was very hammy but very idiosyncratic and endearing
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>>221731434
it's dare i say BORING
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R.I.P. Sam Neill
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>>221730406
Probably, they get overlooked by a lot of horror fans too.
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>>221730353
>>221731753
I know he's in Wenders' Until the End of the World (with William Hurt and a bunch of Ozu actors). I've never seen it because it's nearly 5 hours long. Maybe now's the time.
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>>221719076
I haven't seen it yet but thanks for the rec. I like the Expressionist-esque designs it has going on.

Has anyone else here seen The Asthenic Syndrome? It's a 1989 Soviet drama film following two thematically connected but structurally separate plots. I saw it at TIFF earlier this year and mostly liked it, found it somewhat pretentious and too meandering though ,although I think the latter may have been deliberate.
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>>221732849
"I met a man who loved everything, and he died in a flood of shit."
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I just can't get enough
I just can't get enough
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>>221734986
Me Without You
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>>221735048
Strangelove, strange highs and strange lows
Strangelove, that's how my love goes
Strangelove, will you give it to me?
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#remembering #sadness
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>>221704215
>Glory to the Filmmaker
Is it any good?
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>>221735872
nothing he's done since 2002 is worth jackshit
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>>221735794
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>>221735872
Yes. Takeshis' (2005) is even better thoughbeit.
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>>221736072
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>>221736127
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*ahem*
not film.
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>>221736309
*farts*
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>>221736072
>"Sam, you must do this. You must."

>>221736127
>One reason some find the film problematic is that it bestrides a number of different genres.
The best thing about Possession is that it covers like five genres.
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>>221736309
????
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>>221736309
*ahem*
*fart in your face*
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>>221736079
Why does Kitano blink with one eye

Is it a tic
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>>221736781
Yeah he had a motorcycle accident when he was younger iirc. A tremor I believe it's called
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>>221736798
>when he was younger
I thought it was during the 90's, a year or two before making hana bi.
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>>221736781
>>221736798
It's paralysis on one side of his face from the crash injuries.
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>>221736798
>>221736834
>In August 1994, Kitano was involved in a motorscooter accident and suffered injuries that caused partial paralysis of the right-side of his face. As reported by Dan Edwards, Kitano later said that the accident was an "unconscious suicide attempt".[14] Kitano made Kids Return in 1996, soon after his recovery.
Interesting
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>>221736834
he was younger in the 90s than he is now
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>>221736849
Kids Return, really? I must have gotten the details mixed up. From hana-bi:
>In the film, Horibe takes up painting in the pointillist style in order to compensate for his paralysis. In reality, these paintings were painted by Kitano himself, whilst in recovery from an infamous motorcycle accident in August 1994 that left half of his face paralyzed.[2]
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>While secretly trying to film the woman next door, Seungsoo happens to capture footage of a murder. The murderer kills Seungsoo, too, but only after the tape with the recording of the murder has been placed in the return box of a video rental shop. As he borrows videos randomly in search of the incriminating tape, the killer learns from Seungsoo’s younger sister, Seungmi, that her brother was a fan of thrillers. Starting with De Palma’s Dressed to Kill and Hitchcock’s Vertigo, the murderer becomes deeply enamored with film. In the end, he reveals his dream of becoming a director to the cashier at the video rental shop…
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I never realized this but it's kinda funny that John Carpenter and Godard both cite the same director as their biggest influence
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>>221737285
Nah. Hawks is just that kino.
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>>221737285
Pretty sure Rio Bravo chemically alters your brain if you saw it at a specific age as a boomer.
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>>221737345
Looks like I'll have to bump more of his stuff up on my list. There wouldn't happen to be a good copy of pic related floating around anywhere, would there?
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>>221737285
>I prefer genre pictures because they're very difficult to do. And since I can't manage to do that much, I tell myself: "It's beyond what I can do."
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>>221737596
>Four or five years ago I worked in the field of film criticism. I knew many films and reasoned only with examples. When I thought about a close-up, I didn't just think about the close-up, but about a close-up from a film by Preminger or Hawks or Renoir. I thought only in relation to existing cinema, which I liked. Now I think more in relation to reality. Before, I tried to adapt reality to film, while now I try to find the language in relation to reality. Americans know how to tell stories very well; the French not at all. Flaubert and Proust didn't know how to tell stories. They do something else.
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>>221734531
Kira Muratova ended up developing a stylistic quirk where characters sometimes would repeat the same phrases and gestures over and over, it's meant to evoke a kind of a mental condition I think with the films in general having a "psychiatric ward" tone to them. Those Bruno Dumont comedies actually have a similar thing to Muratova although even more extreme and grating on purpose actually. I don't remember if The Asthenic Syndrome specifically had that stylistic element tho. Might have been too early. But if it did, it could have contributed to the feeling of it being meandering.
Her early films are also good, but different. She comes from the Khrushchev Thaw generation of filmmakers, most of whom specialized on kind of gentle melodramas that ended up shaping Soviet cinema a lot really, the 70s stuff especially. Khutsyev and Konchalovsky are another examples. Konchalovsky did move into doing period dramas tho, similarly to his brother Mikhalkov. The Thaw also spawned more radical filmmaking the kind of Tarkovsky (who has a cameo in Khutsyev's I Am Twenty) and Parajanov, although that stuff was censored much harsher than the gentle dramas which ended up being mostly liked and greatly influential internally. They did still suffer from censorship. Khutsyev had to re-edit I Am Twenty (also known as Ilyich's Gate), Muratova had her films shelved, so did Konchalovsky. He actually moved to America for a time and made a few decently acclaimed movies there. But nothing as harsh as Parajanov literally being sent to fucking GULAG.
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>>221737596
>shoots Two or Three Things I Know About Her in the morning and Made in U.S.A in the afternoon each day for one month
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>>221737860
>ira Muratova ended up developing a stylistic quirk where characters sometimes would repeat the same phrases and gestures over and over, it's meant to evoke a kind of a mental condition I think with the films in general having a "psychiatric ward" tone to them.
Interesting choice. I believe that mental condition is called excited catatonia. I can picture it in my head and see it working well. Or at least to anyone familiar with the condition. Pretty clever.
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>>221737873
>I remember how it was filmed: we sat down in front of the cup of coffee, I stirred it, and then Coutard said, “I don’t see anything, I don’t see anything, nothing’s happening”; it moved, it lasted ten minutes in total, and finally, at a certain point, there was nothing left... and then, in that moment that I really like, starting from a cup of coffee, we saw the world unravel and then, suddenly, the world was recreated, suddenly motionless... Things were happening, that's why everything is interesting; it's possible to make a film with nothing, because everything can be shown in nothing.
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There are two ways of making films, that's very clear. There's one way that's mine: I need to make a film more than make music, because I sing badly... I'd love to sing well. But I need to get close to others, so that others can see me... This is what I've discovered. If they ask me, “Who are you?”, I can show them, and the act of showing myself allows the direct interaction to be less intense, so that I'm not immediately forced to criticize myself or to be afraid, or to be shy or anything like that.

>So I need to film, while three-quarters of the other people who make films need to live the social life of the film, whether it's a militant film or a Hollywood one. They need to live Hollywood, they need to live the life of the film, they need to live the life of those three months. Making a film is something extraordinary: you spend three months with other people, there's the allure of novelty, you don't work, you get paid; you're not the one who invented the story, you're not the one who performs it; if you do the cinematography, you don't have to put up any money; If you put up the money, you don't have to get naked in front of the camera... Besides, if you're the viewer, you're not obligated to produce the film; if you produce the film, you're not forced to be the viewer... And that lasts three months, four months.
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>>221737781
>>221737596
He really was the most pretentious filmmaker ever.
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>>221738091
>Among some people, I'm sometimes considered the father of modern cinema. I don't understand it, since I consider myself much younger, especially among Americans. I met Paul Schrader last night, and Michael Cimino two weeks ago, and I'm sure they consider me an old or aged director. It would be difficult for me to make them understand that I consider them older than me. Obviously, I'm almost 50 and they're 35 or 40. But I have a deep feeling that they are my parents. I think it's because they are American and I consider American cinema to be my parents. Therefore, even if it's a young guy making his first film in America, I will consider him my father or mother, and I will try to rebel against him. I am older than him, but my cinema is younger simply because it has no rules, and he has many rules.
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wtf I expected a porno
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>>221738147
How didn't anybody ever just punch him in the nose
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>>221738015
I remember it being particularly noticeable in Chekhov's Motifs. I haven't seen everything. Late more surreal and dark stuff of hers is curious, although my favourite film of hers from what I've seen is in fact The Long Farewell the poster for which I posted. It's a beautiful example of a gentle Soviet melodrama with fantastic cinematography. I wonder if Pawel Pawlikowski seen the movie, it's a similar visual style to his latest three films although with a lot of handheld shots too. It's an unusual style for Soviet movies actually, especially when the 70s started the films have mostly acquired a uniform visual approach, at least when we talk about Ukrainian and Russian made ones. There is similarity to middle period Alexei German Sr. too in the visual style of The Long Farewell. With 20 Days Without War in particular. I would recommend everything I am mentioning in the posts, if you can track down English subtitles of course.
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>>221738168
The surface level ending exposition of the movie's themes out loud almost ruins what is essentially a masterpiece. I think the studio forced that part in.
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>>221704215
>Favourite /film/ about /film/making?
Sullivan's Travels is underrated gigakino
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>mfw dreyer theatrical
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>>221738341
Bresson was too autistic for his own good
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>>221738178
>My goal was to be a state-employed filmmaker, like the Russians. I wouldn't have been able to do that with the Russians either: I would have been fired or imprisoned too quickly. For a long time, my dream was to work at the UGC—the General Union of Cinematography—back when it was producing Bresson's films. The state had taken it over; it was a state-run film production system. My dream was to work there, getting paid by the month and by the year.
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>>221738375
Contradiction in terms.
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>>221738091
Not even close
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>But what were they looking for? To film boys and girls who, when they see the film, would be surprised to see themselves and the world reflected in it. This was the instinctive ambition: there was a path, and the film provided the return. I still felt that way with a Vincent Gallo film.
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>>221738520
>[With Almodovar] They are no longer boys and girls. They are advertising creatures. Before, actors played characters, not themselves playing characters. We are in the age of the copy. The copy has become the original. That is why the notion of “copyright” has become implausible.
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>>221738091
That'd be Harmony Korine

inb4
>ermmmm he's anti-pretentious like he doesnt even care and makes things bad on purpose or whatever *gets raped by a wild animal*
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Godard talked too much.
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>>221738091
He's right about flaubert though
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>>221738760
And made too many films and lived too long.
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>>221738291
Based Sturgeschad.
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>>221738178
Someone surely did.
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Can we go back to discussing has-been actresses? I'll start. Something about this woman drives me crazy
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>>221738091
>p-word
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>>221737373
It does that to everyone.
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>>221738938
I'm chemically incapable of enjoying anything with john yang
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>>221728494
Goes from quite captivating to hideous.
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>>221738957
>chemically incapable of enjoying anything with john yang
Chemically-castrated?
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>>221736366
Underrated.
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>>221737583
Been meaning to see this one for a while just on the knowledge that it's a silent Hawks with McLaglen and Brooks. Sounds almost fake.
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>>221738691
Can't argue. You're right
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>>221735794
You reckon they did it?
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>>221738549
Kek.
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