HoH: DeeNoms: Mallory, Yash, TaylorPOV: MalloryDay 6 of 87previously on /bb/: >>221719341
sexo con dee
>crossovers
poop bros are we getting neglected?
total barrett death
>>221722208Elite theory on display in the HOH room
allen iverson crossovers
>>221722227Cute mole
interesting season so far
>>221722233Cams haven't been on HOH in a while
>>221722208betas and submissives... it should've been meeeeeNOT THEM
>>221722208
>>221722225big brother and terrible alliance names
>>221722207anglo Basedmerican that wants to be different so they change their sexuality and snarkily comment on the ethics of other people
7TH FOR VICTORIA
>>221722254On TV chud
>>221722225horrible name
>>221722248Please tell me "The Roman Empire" is not an actual alliance name....
>>221722268good lord
>>221722258BB fans are so talented it's so cool how fast and high quality artists here can make shit like this
does chuk have the 'tism?
>>221722264What is a chud?
>>221722225>alliance designed and propped up by productionwelcome back, Leftovers
>>221722248so this bitch didnt even get the alliance name right
rape taylor
>>221722225WE LOVE PRODUCTION PETS!!!!!
MALLORY IS THE ONLY ONE ANY OF YOU WOULD HAVE ANY CHANCE WITH AHAHAHAHAHAHA
we are ALL voting for ashley
>>221722222
>>221722248mallorybros...
BB VOTE>BB VOTEBB VOTE>BB VOTEBB VOTE>BB VOTEhttps://www.cbs.com/shows/big_brother/voter/
>>221722319It's gonna be Meth, he has the entirety of twitter
>no power this weekuseless
>>221722319but she won't be there to get it...
>>221722316I actually find her really charming in her own way. Like Kelley who I also wanted to fuck desu
need this episode to end so i can go back and clip the insane dee ass jiggle
Total vet death
Angela is gonna fuck up something with The Red Corner. She has too big of a mouth when she’s upset
>>221722316thats why god made ghb
"The Red Corner" shits on "Crossovers" KEK
>>221722359based
>>221722353
devens you retard. angela is gonna have a melty and expose all this
>telling angela about secret informationbig mistake
>>221722261miss her
lol based retard devens
>>221722281it isn't
Damn, Rick Devens going full Devin
>devens watched bb26 to prepare>never picked up on angela being a loose cannondevens.....
>maybe thats why you lost on your first seasonoof
>>221722300a haley or kamu fan
survivor players acting like this is a 3 week island game and not a 100 day backgammon match
I am really enjoying these episodes without Rachel's annoying ass DRs
>>221722316she has a tight pusy tho
>>221722319doesn't mattera vet will win the first vote
>>221722421Your an incel bro we get it
>>221722380Imagine fucking her until she’s normal
devens thrives in chaos
DAN'S FUNERAL MENTIONED
>rome telling literally everyone that he and devens made a mutual deal not to target each otherthis guy is a dumb motherfucker
>>221722442This is a Britney board, Rachel sucks
Rick's wife is hot why is he trying to fuck Angela on day 5
reality tv bbq show
reminder
>>221722464Can't blame himWho wouldn't?
>>221722491she wont even be otb
mallory is getting absolutely torched in the edit, this is worse than getting evicted kek
Mallory bros...
>>221722520She is?
I doubt Hapeybwd zfc JFjc fzFUUUck
awkward
rome saying his target is ashleyrome grandma lala and jason in gymappears they have a three unit going onsaying they each need 2 people adjacent to themselveslala wants to target angelajason wants to target devens
is mallory why our rockets keep exploding on launch
>>221722532You good sis?
>>221722491She was doing ok. But started playing really hard today attempting to for no reason putting a target on her back
Malgals...
lmfao mallory getting buried
>>221722527Not like this...
>>221722548rome is lying about his target I’m pretty sure
>>221722552Mexicans half tightening bolts and materials that do not meet specs but say that they meet specs wasn't in the design plans
Mallorybros... Our response?
You need someone like Mallory to highlight how hot the other girls are
the blacks have been abandoned in the edit
GAY GATE
>>221722588win POV
>>221722603Based
>>221722581I guess you could say it doesn’t mean spics
>Kamu playing Dee's game for herDamn, this is just gonna be BB19 all over again
>>221722643I forgot about her. Is she still with that Jewish loser or can I have her now
>>221722603finally
>>221722603Big brother is healing
>>221722670She is still with Cory but the good news is that won't stop you from having her!
>>221722643One of the only real marrying options. She'll share her food and she'll make out with girls in front of you....while inviting you to share.She's sort of a slut but ultimately loyal, still can't win a comp.
>>221722665kamu reminds me of paul
>>221722701It's just the beard
>>221722670She isn't advertised but if you contact her owners you could make an offer
>>221722715And the body of tats
the game is afoot
mallory melty incoming in the episode
>Dee in those sweatpants Mmm
jason and grandma lala are onto angela and devens.but they still want to play with deeapparently dee cooking lala stoufers lasagna today really went far
dee has at least two things going for her
no poop??? lame
YASH 4 BLOCKBUSTER
dee should be naked
praying Jeet or NuRopes goes because I am racist
oh god what's with all this poc on poc crime
>>221722774We already won
by allah taylor must go
dee needs to wear no pants and only a g-string all day
>>221722821many people are saying this
i want taylor to crush me with her thighs
he was the pivotal person to solve that puzzle while he stood there holding a rope
ANGELA ASHLEY
SEXO
the budget for these episodes seems significantly lower compared to the episodes from old seasons
>I miss the fish
>>221722847grod has a new direction for bb in mind
>>221722774what poop
>>221722866yeah, even the interior of the house
>>221722866expensive cgi for the time travel bits
>lyric getting friendzoneddamn
>>221722866Probably went to appearance fees
>>221722860i'm the old survivor fan from last thread, never watched this show, still dont get it honestly. but DAMN
Ashley is hotter than Lauren
>lyric jokingly calling rome her boyfriend
>>221722903shut your whore mouth
>>221722902bb is basically survivor in a house but 3x the length and you can watch it play out live
ASHLEY NEEDS TO FIND HER PEEPS
youtube sneeds are back
>>221722903hardly anyone is saying this
>still have to wait 3 hours for the VOD of the episode to appear on P+
Does Kamu remind anyone else of Paul from s19?
>>221722942Based
>Dee completely ignoring the black lady ringing her doorbell
ALOHA HAWAII
>>221722956No he reminds me of Mac from It's Always Sunny
>>221722942LET'S GO REWIND IS BACK
>>221722951Yeah, who the fuck at paramount thought that was a good idea? Just release them at the same fucking time. I swear BB producers are their own worst enemies
>>221722956not really but he does kind of reminds me of Paul from bb18
>>221722875Big brother is moving towards a competition/powerup heavy format. It's coming from people over her head. They want tar, survivor, and BB reworks so they studios are running transition seasons with the big brother tar, superstar survivor, and survivor big brother. It's why sur51 has even more idols and twists.
>>221722527it’s okay, she’ll use her superior intellect to find a way out of this
>>221722935i understand that part i guess, but its super cheesy. (purposely tongue in cheek?) and i hoped you could just watch the "live" cam parts but i guess thats just on paramount+?
>>221723016What makes you sure of all this?
>>221722942>youtubeHooooray
>>221722956seems more like Paul from Candy Crush
>show us everything, don't hold backlisten to Angela, Ashley, she is an old wise woman
is we getting a pressure cooker this season
>>221723036That's what they said when I watched the episodes.
>>221723025watch on youtube right now
>>221723059Angela / Ashley rolling butts imminent
>>221723067No you're just pulling a bunch of shit out of your ass.
I have a crush on ashley
>>221723058why is he wearing her outfit
>black houseguest>My strategy is to trick everybody into thinking I’m dumb
>>221723089You say that.
I'd have sex with Ashley if you know what I mean.
>>221723064the pressure cooker is in between dee’s brappers
Angela will save Ashley
ashley is screwed isn't she...?
angela seems so much more socially integrated with the house this season
angela please keep our girl ashley safe
rome setting himself up with a stage 5 clinger and cockblocking himself from bagging Ashley or Haley smart move would’ve been fucking Mallory day one to make the other roasties seethe
>>221723128>>221723122>>221723123she won’t she was humoring mallory before the veto
Ashley bros.... we are so in with big Ange
>cast boomer vets>give them a premade alliance of fansThis is Big Brother from now on. Only Rome can save us now.
Angela is going to win this game
>>221723118giwtwm
I'm gonna do an occult ritual and my coom will keep Ashley safe.
Ashley needed to do all this a day earlier
angela is going to coast to jury again lmao
I'd have sex with Angela if you know what I mean.
comp beast ash will RUN the blockbuster
The producers will keep Ashley safe until jury, they’re trying to lock in the coomer love island crowd and she’s their proof of concept
>>221723148nothing new, reused bb13 playbookBarrett will be the Adam Poch of the season
>>221723179No, can you elaborate?
>>221723148angela will completely blow up her own alliance inshallah
Will barret be the first hg to cry this season?
I trust GrodAshley is winning the battle back
>>221723025it's on p+ (monthly fee), free on plutotv but with ads and on youtube for 2-3 hours after each episode https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rs1ahSfyHF0
>>221723206already mallory
I kinda feel bad about shittalking Yash early on, he seems like a good dude and I hope he wins the BlockbusterTurns out he's not a typical shiteating jeet pervert
>>221723113>>221723089Imagine GC giving a fuck about a superveto or something. He would only care if they could sell the sponsorship, which apparently they haven't
>>221723148reminds me of cirie getting her son, a loyal soldier AND a black woman close in age kek
>>221723148didnt bb14 do that and it's everyone's favorite
IT'S UP https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mc6mh4i2IW8
cirie is the greatest to never win
The greatest Survivor player to never win is Cesternino.
>>221723214thank youuu. pluto is kind of goated at this point. they do the live ones too?!
>>221723260good point
red corner wants to let all the vets in and run them over kek
kamu and chuk believe they can 1 hundred percent trust angela
>>221723261aw it's nice that they're still happy together with their kids. still themselves too
>>221723260Ok fair, but at least they cast vets who would never get along
>>221723217he reminds me of the good jeets I remember being around when I was growing up in canada, before the floodgates opened
Hope the next hoh comp is a crapshoot. Want everyone in red corner/crossovers for nom consideration
I thought Melody was the likely renom how did Ashley piss them off?
perky latina tits
>chuk believes Angela does not know about he and Kamu's alliance
>>221723260dan, britney, and janelle are way more popular than angela and 2 current era survivor vets tho
>>221723367The target is shifting to heiliegh
>>221723376chuk is a little slow in the mind
angela has to be a personal friend of grodner or someone at cbsdo not understand why they love her so much
holy fuck chuk and kamu are boring
>>221723367ashley seems to be the least blood. and no biggie if she does actually get bootedmelody is attached to drew, so the thinking is not to put her up so drew can keep influence
THE MEN WILL KEEP ASHLEY SAVE
chuk is such a fucking coon
>>221723460based men as always
taylor saying all she cares about is getting to the jury house pisses me off
>>221723528LYRIC DON'T LOOK!!!
>>221723528The vets are underestimating LALA
>>221723528he can't keep getting away with it!!!!!!
>>221723460QRD? I was watching ashley and angela talk.
i have a gay son
>>221723572looks like carrie
Taylor might be working with Lala
>chuk and kamu want taylor to go homebased
>>221723580>chuk n kamu>told ashley they don't see her going home this week>confirming with each other they don't see ashley as a threat at all
>>221723556>>221723558>>221723572spooky
chuku imeka
Seems like the only people confirmed Ashley are the chuds
>>221723580Chuk and Kamu agreed Ashley is no threat and they can keep her around for a long time
>Chukumelon
>>221723423grodhog identifies with her
she’s so pretty
>>221723584>what if hot female vet targeted hot female newbies!from the twisted mind of Curry Barker
>>221723423She's khazar
>mallory wants to try meth once
I've never once heard somebody say they really want to take a vacation to Albuquerque.
comical amount of stuff for them to put up
>boofing meth with mallory
that chuk is a downright peculiar queer-eyed buck
Mallory is a based Skyler White hater
Mallory is the pipe queen
Well at least we know Mallory is ride or die. She's got that going for her.
>Mallory is Skylar haterOkay I'm rooting for her again
I fucked ted
what's his gimmick?
They should do a season where they only bring on hot women and no men and then we can watch them flounder and stop taking care of themselves when they realize there are no men to manipulate.Half-way through the season they introduce the men (who were allowed to watch the live feeds unbeknownst to the women) and we get to watch the women switch to their fame personalities but fail to manipulate the men because they got to watch what vapid cunts they were. Then eventually the men get horny and get manipulated anyway
>>221723739he's a chill guy
>>221723739>Staring at Melody He's literally me
jason is cucking romelala is cucking lyric
>lyric: i gota poop
the red corner trio is completely clueless
i want lyric to win
Poop bros.... we are so back
I don't like Latrice
>>221723793they'll win HoH next week but target rome and coso yeah, i guess they are useless against the actual power structure of the house
>>221723794weird
>HGs have been saying yash has yet to talk to them about game all day
latrice talking while chewing with her mouth open is gonna make me barf
it's a man's season
chuk thinks lyric is a beautiful thing to look at but gotta be careful with that
>>221723928real
>>221723679https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=clcVAy_kmqAI used to live there kwab
What are your predictions lads?>drew decides he doesn’t stand a chance with the hot girls and goes for Mallory>gets cucked anyway>angela blows up her alliance when throwing a fit over something dumb>lyric lets 3 different houseguests fuck her but still can’t secure an alliance>barret turns spiteful when his faggy Redditor feminist shtick doesn’t get him laid>Rome gets a mental edge because he keeps the other guests from sleeping by loudly buckbreaking Chuk before every comp >the black girls form a useless alliance and call anybody who puts them on the block racist>haley can’t hide her racism for more than a few weeks
kamu, chuk and haley will trade the next 3 hohs
paul reminds me of paul from paul
kamu and chuk are convinced ashley isnt going home no matter what if she is put up as renom
>We have to protect the 5
>the thog on the block>babyvoice wrapped around one finger>meth wrapped around the other
>>221723976lyric will turn barrett and jason straight
>>221723995the one that lost by 5 votes or the one that lost by 1 vote?
roamwithdee and romewithdee
That Chuk kinda zesty, no?
Anyone can go except Ashley
If Ashley goes I go
i think chuk is an alien pretending to be human and it's part of the twist this season
>>221723975looks absolutely terrible
#cutforashley
>my dad makes bubble wrap
3 more weeks until he enters
who is the twitter fanbase going to find problematic this season
>>221724003how is she not part of the chud group she is an actual barstool employee
>>221724057All the buddies are nubians this season
>>221724077The Red Corner
>>221724077It was Rome but then he made them horny and they decided he's woke now
>>221724077kamu and haley are already getting dragged
I will sacrifice myself for Ashley’s safety
>>221724081Haley wound never allow another woman.
>>221724099Almost like their beliefs are a joke
>mfw ashley will probably go home this week and no more caps will be taken of her
>>221724081ashley is an unproblematic princess
Bros i get the impression Kamu doesn't want Taylor going home
ANGELA JUST KISSED JASON ON THE LIPS!!!
>>221723976chuk is sleeping with mallory once he gets horny enough to just accept his fatemaybe a matter of a week
>>221724122Floaters can be useful
>>221724139>chuk sleeping with a womannot happening
>>221724139Chuk and mallory would unironically be hilarious
Dee might actually think Barrett is cute
>>221724139chuk WILL claim drew's tight bussyhole
>>221724077kamu and haley are the quintessential types of houseguests that twitter hates
sex with angela
twitter gays are seething that the crossovers don't have any black people in itthey're already calling them the long-term villains this season
>>221724100They're the ones who want to work with the buddies though.
>>221724186>be in the power alliance instead of being an underdog>bb fans turn on you a tale as old as time
>>221724186>when you arrive at the right answer the wrong way
>>221724183angela is gilfy
crossovers is such a stupid name, drew was right the first time when he suggested "the icons"
>>221724227we support the crossovers around these parts, friendo
I want to see the Red Corner bring Taylor into the fold just to see twitter's brain explode
>>221723260Boogie, Jannelle, and Dan were secretly all at each others throats the entire time, and Britney was taken out by Boogie as collateral damage
What would our alliance name be?
I like to go on twitter and see the seething buddies freakout about big brother and then dm them the n word lol
They're about to rope in yosh into his first game talk of the season
>>221724305Not your buddies.
>>221724269>supporting the production designed allianceno
yash finna win blockbuster
I want to see ashley naked if you guys don’t mind
>>221724305Ian's disciples
>>221724321this group could literally run it to the final 4 if they linked up
drew is my self insert and i will be very disappointed if he doesn't get at least a handjob from dee before this is over
Drew has a broken pinkie toe
I hate mean gays
>>221724357built like a femboy
>>221724398they need to start botting
>>221724398grim numbers
>>221724321>chuk's ass
>>221724398No trust me this show is popular we can show it to the zoomers and they'll think it's cool
Lala is telling Melody that Yash is the one spreading shit around the house about the trio. "He's doing everything to try to save himself."
>>221724398they haven't advertised the youtube streams at all
>>221724398i wish the youtube stream was permanent i can actually rewind
DEE AND ANGELA
angela is about to overload dee's brain with schizo shit and bad reads
dee says she loves ashley
angela gonna mindfuck dee
>so about brittney>oh I mean ashley haha >who f*cking cares haha
>dee to angela>i love her(ashley)>smart thing is to get yash out
Haley is finnito
>>221724352What kinda picture? Id like one of her spreading her cheeks from behind so I can see her stinkhole.
>>221724480truth nuke
pluto went to fucking commercial right when dee was getting to something juicy with angela. can someone tell me what it was?
SAVE ASHELYNOM HALEYLET'S GO
>skippy cuts away when dee is about to farti'm going to kill him i swear to god
>hiding her fartingreeeee
AARRRGGH IWANNA HEAR DEE FAAAARRRTS
>>221724496>unfortunate face, tits, hips and ass
>dee about haley: I hate that bitch and I also hate chuk
>>221724502funny because they cut away from that convo and just went back
>>221724505dee literally just said she is noming ashley
>>221724502Dee said she had to fart then the cams switched
>>221724539i know mine is wishful thinking
Angela was just "playing" an idiot in her last season.
dee literally sticking her ass in the air to rip a massive fart and the feed cuts away
angela talks so much shit about melody but doesn't really say why. everyone seems confused
>know a group like kamu, haley and chuk are trying to fuck your game up>hmmm let me not backdoor them and target ashleyNGMI
>>221724559It's a common tactic in society so the retards don't feel so outclassed.
>>221724570ITS TOO SOOOOON
angela is already blowing up the group lmao
>>221724566probably reminds her of her younger self and that she is just an old grandma now that cant twerk
>>221724566she said she was boring and hates her stories
>>221724570she’s not targeting ashley but yes it’s dumb
>>221724329>Not your buddies, pal
Angela thinks she's a wise guru
>>221724607Boomers of the suburbs have a lot of wisdom if you just sat and listened you would know
HOLY SHIT dee and angela plan to renom devens to win back favor with the black girls!
>>221724614That's the thing, they get so much hate, but they lived through their youth during a great time in history. They know so much.
>>221724614
why do all the vets hate the buddies in the house
>they think i'm their mother>rome, jason and lala already clocked their weak ass mistkek
yes queens take ashley under your wing
Angela is nutz
>lets do something with ashley>puts her up as renominteresting strat
>>221724649Production instructions.
angela thinks she's a genius mastermind
>>221724566jealous of the hotter younger blonde chick
I'm predicting Angela is going to be Dee's downfall.
3 BINGS
how fast will barrett snitch about this?
>>221724570the plan is to not anger the red corner people so soon because they still think they're allied with each other. if one of the red corner trio wins hoh next week (likely) they're probably go after rome's group while the crossovers are sitting pretty
>>221724702Imagine her shoving that big toe up your shit pipe.
>>221724587Isn't Leah also boring and always yapping?
>>221724740leah has charisma
>>221724702Dee will be able to damage control and survive but Angela will absolutely crash and burn with tons of collateral damage to their whole group
the clock on the first angela fight is ticking
>angela: when she(melody) talks, its like she is the more boring person in the world
i notice that nobody really ever agrees with angela when she's going off about melody
>>221724817Jesus imagine the smell. I need to jerk off ffs
Angela is a potty mouth and she's getting unhinged
i want to tickle dee
>someone like her, she and I are like that, we're big personalities>they're gonna get a rise, and they're gonna like that, they want their season to be fun>I'm not going to give it to themWe need a Melody HoH for good tv
yeah i think dee is already growing tired of angela
angela is a ticking schizo time bomb
>>221724496I feel bad for her :(
>>221724817asking melody if she needs me to rub sunscreen on her cheeks
if i was dee, this convo would spook me on angela
>OH NO NO NO angela talking shit abt another hg on a reality show designed around talking shit SWITCH THE FEEDcant stand this gay jew millennial prod..
>>221724875Yup
>>221724860this is why their alliance won't last. she'll walk in on drew talking to the wrong person a single time and blow the whole thing up
>fish during youtube timewtf are you doing Grodner?
>>221724817
>>221724913I was surprised how well she took the creation of the red corner on the episode
the amount of whispering on this show is hard to listen to, maybe it's not for me
>>221724875>dee and devens alone later>dee: angela is going to be a fucking problem
>>221724927Yeah, I get why Dee was pissed but it would have been way worse if they didn't tell Angela and she found out
>>221724913taran predicted that dee and angela would hit it off out of the gate but eventually hate each other
>doesn't know who devens iskek
>>221724963i was thinking this same thing kek
the Angela crashout on Rome will be so good
>prince charming got the girls and mama lala
oof
>>221724972does he also predict that the sun will rise in the east
>>221725011>taylor, chuk, and latrice all at the bottombuddybros...
>>221725011She's Kat in every way
HOLY SHITANGELA KILLED DEE
I missed feeds today. Apparently Rick ruined his game?
>>221725011Maybe Angela was right calling her boring..
angela currently smashing dee's boobs into the ground
>>221725011>22 Dee>17 Rick>9 Angelaanother returnee season where the newbies are invisible
putting your face on a bathroom floor is foul
>angela trying to strategize when she can't even remember people's namesi wonder if dee knows she's in trouble
>>221725011Gee I wonder who'll win the first vote kek
>>221725011>>221725038Kek I remember when Zae had more DRs in week 1 than Kat had in 6 or 7 weeks. IDK how there are always pussy misted fags ITT defending the blondes. They're always boring as hell.
>>221725011SURVIVORS RUNNING THIS EDIT
fat latina ass
>give dee a massage>Dee: something's pocking my butt ay-non
>>221725011
angela's lovebombing makes me uncomfortable
balcony is kamu's office kek
is it possible that production tipped angela off that melody said she hated angela in the intro?
big ang scares me bros
>>221725139i think angela can tell from vibes alone
The bible is the word of the lord but has been interpreted by man, according to Lala
>>221725139I just think she's just jealous of the younger cuter blonde. she has a mean streak
The bible verses about owning slaves weren't meant to be taken literally, according to Lala
it's a Holy season
>the loud creaks and bangs the have not bed does was completely ignored in the episode
G(r)od will save her
Man plansGod Laughs
Kamu is building a cult
Jason is a Christcuck?
>>221725191looks like a tranny
What possible challenge could you rig for Ashley's favor?
>>221725191
>>221725211who can eat a bowl of peas in pea juice first
>>221725191Thought I was looking at Jason in the thumbnail.
>>221725209how so?
>>221725191sexo
>>221725209peak female performance i'm afraid
>I've never had a hamburger
>>221725191amazon position with ashley
KAMU HOLDING MALLORY HOSTAGE
>>221725267>1973My Knicksies won the title in that year!
>>221725266
ashley fans will rejoice when she's evicted first because she can start her onlyfans sooner
>>221725293finally someone with a brain
>>221725293many are saying this
kamu is indoctrinating mallory into his cult
>>221725286Me either... might be a Midwest thing
No one on this season has an IQ above 90. Will that make it entertaining? Maybe. Will that make it interesting? No.
>>221725313/ourgirl/ is so in
youtubebros...
youtube feeds lasted 30mins longer this time
>>221725293Watching her be authentic and candid is a lot hotter
>yfw you laurenposted with dee last season
angela is building up a melty
The only way this season could end up interesting is with a fist fight
mallory needs to stop telling everyone that she would nominate dee if she was HoH
angela looks like she's about to blow up
>>221725351Touch grass
>>221725371
why the fuck do all these pluto.m3u's auto switch the channels?it cant be a setting cause ive fucked with all of them.
>>221725397Stop being poor
>>221725379Prince Charming's days are numbered
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>>221725372Kamu is a human weapon.
>>221725385When was the last time you touched grass?
>>221725347nah it was 2 hours like last time
