>No prostitutes, actors or unclean tradesmen may attendWhat was their problem with actors?
Actors are two faced liars, all of them
I dunno, it was weird. I love actors. They're amazing.
>>221762543theyre called thespians and that sounds like lesbians and tahts bad
>>221762543actors give you false emotions and false identities. same with prostitutes. anything lacking sincerity was seen as degeneracy by romans. unclean tradesmen just means things like merchants of death or theft/thieves/criminals.
>>221762543But he already said prostitutes?
>>221762543it was seen as debauched to pretend to be someone else, weird face saving stuff about honor also Roman’s thought Greeks were faggots so it kept them in their place
Actors only skill is lying convincingly. It's entertaining to watch but on a human level they are garbage
>>221762590>unclean tradesmen just means things like merchants of death or theft/thieves/criminals.So the toilet cleaners were considered clean tradesmen?
>>221762607>weird face saving stuff about honorWeird? Still applies to most of the world today, and did apply to the west until very recently when moral decay began to set in
>>221762543
>>221762657Romans were very autistic about it thoughbeit like augustus had to institute laws limiting the freeing of slaves because once a slave becomes a freedman they are honor bound to the person who freed them, so rich people would buy hundreds of slaves and free them to farm the Roman equivalent of izzat
>>221762630Toilet cleaners were slaves so they didn’t count as anything
>>221762543Same reason they valued truth and logic over the flair of semantics. I'll be jailed for antisemitism btw.
>>221762584they were probably just jealous
>>221762584Based NPC
>>221762590>anything lacking sincerity was seen as degeneracyWhat I would give to live in one of these Aspergers-tier cultures
>>221762590>unclean tradesmen just meansi thought it meant butchers, horse handlers etc people covered in blood, shit and dirt
>>221762812Nah, that’s hebrew nonsense.
>>221762543Just as today, the actors then were all gay.
The only reason this quote makes the rounds here is because most modern actors have political opinions that the board disagrees with. As soon as it's someone like James Woods tweeting stuff you people can't stop gushing over the guy.
>>221762611You must have an extremely low opinion of the director then given that he doesn't even 'lie convincingly' but orders other people to do so.It's a disingenuous argument anyway because it's being done in service of art, much like voice acting is a decent part of a singer's skills for making their art.
>>221762764Japan is waiting, brother
>>221762934Directors do a lot more than tell actors how to do their jobs, lmao. You have a 12 year olds understanding of movie productions
>>221762893I think all actors, whether they agree with me or not, should stay in their lane. I don't give a fuck what athletes think about anything besides their sport and I don't give a fuck what actors think about anything besides acting. Simple as
>>221762543>the greeks invented the theater and regarded it as a divine gift which they preformed in connection to religious festivals>the romans treated it like dirt and preferred to watch sloppy dramas of mistaken identity that would make jacobeans blushReally makes you think.
>>221763230Damn, maybe the greeks really were gay
>>221762590>We now have fresco paintings of monstrosities, rather than truthful representations of definite things. For instance, reeds are put in the place of columns, fluted appendages with curly leaves and volutes, instead of pediments, candelabra supporting representations of shrines, and on top of their pediments numerous tender stalks and volutes growing up from the roots and having human figures senselessly seated upon them; sometimes stalks having only half-length figures, some with human heads, others with the heads of animals.>Such things do not exist and cannot exist and never have existed. Hence, it is the new taste that has caused bad judges of poor art to prevail over true artistic excellence. For how is it possible that a reed should really support a roof, or a candelabrum a pediment with its ornaments, or that such a slender, flexible thing as a stalk should support a figure perched upon it, or that roots and stalks should produce now flowers and now half-length figures? Yet when people see these frauds, they find no fault with them but on the contrary are delighted, and do not care whether any of them can exist or not. Their understanding is darkened by decadent critical principles, so that it is not capable of giving[212] its approval authoritatively and on the principle of propriety to that which really can exist.Why were they so autistic?
>>221763388Autists forcing their shit opinions on everyone else is as old as civilisation. In antiquity they became philosophers, in medieval era theologians, today movie critics.
>>221763588We info dump because we think everyone is as curious as we are. It's not malice, but I can see how it can be very annoying
>>221762611These days none of them are actually good at their job.
>>221762543Actors are paid professional liars, and the Ancient world only needed to experience a handful of them meddling in politics to realize they're never to be trusted.
GAIVSJVLIVSKAISAR
>>221762607>also Roman’s thought Greeks were faggotsand just happened to copy and incorporate innumerable aspects of their "fag" culture. sure...don't @ me. I'm a classics minor and I'm not going to educate a moron in a /tv/ thread. come over to /lit/ or /his/ if you want to try me.>>221762764Iran used to be quite autistic about telling the truth.
>>221762543So "stinky little jew" wasn't a meme, huh?
>>221762934Directors are honest, unless its villneuve who does dishonest directing
>>221762934Directors are the artists. The actor is just single-color paint. Without the artist, the paint is worthless
SILENCEAre we children? Let anon speak.
Once again the Gods spread the cheeks to ram cock in fucking ass
>>221765044I'll have the floor,I HAVE A QUESTION CONCERNING THE JANNY OF /TV/, THE DARLING OF HIROSHIMA.WHY DOES HE STILL WORK FOR FREE? WHY DOES HE DO A BAD JOB AT THAT? HIS ILLEGAL PRUNING OF THREADS IS OVER. CUNNYPOSTERS HAVE LONG SINCE BEEN DEFEATEDWHY DOES THE JANNY ALLOW REDDIT THREADS TO STAY UP? FOR 13 LONG YEARS HE HAS GORGED HIMSELF ON DELETING BASED PEPE THREADS ON /TV/, AND THEREBY TURNED THIS ONCE PROUD BOARD INTO ANOTHER REDDIT.WHY?! WHY DOES HE PLY THE NEWFAGS WITH ANTI-RACIST BAITS AND TUMBLR MEMES? WHY HAS HE UNBANNED EVERY. SINGLE. TROON ON THIS BOARD? WHY?!I'll tell you why he does these thingsHE WANTS TO BE PAID! HE WANTS TO DESTROY THIS BOARD... AND RULE /tv/ AS A BLOODY REDDIT MOD. That's why.Therefore, I move that the tranny mod's reign over /tv/ be terminated immediately, that his jannies be disbanded, and that he be recalled to /qa/ to answer charges of pruning, banning, deleting and redditism
>>221765919I know the memes, but I've never watched this. Does Big'un pronounce it classicially or anglicized? I can't read his lips well enough.>GAI-oos YOO-li-oos KAI-sar>GAI-uhz JOO-li-uhz SEE-zer
>>221766184Just watch the show. It’s fantastic
>>221762543blue collar btfo
>>221762543>unclean tradesmenwhat were those to romans?
>>221762543Professional liars who moonlit as prostitutes.
>>221762935as a white guy i am seething with ultimate unrivaled hatred of this man. gook shouldve pushed him on the tracks.
>Caesar and the Cilician piratesHoly based
>>221766353People who clear away trash and/or empty communal toilets probably.
>>221765900She was sooooo hot dude
>>221766657And how does this guy make you feel?
>Managed to seduce Julius Caesar AND Mark AntonyHow did she do it?
>>221762935In japan a lot of TV and movie actresses are part time escorts at the ultra-luxury agencies. Where they take maybe 1 or 2 shifts a month for some extra cash.When you book them you have no idea who you'll end up meeting. You just get their age, weight, body type, and general career info like "star in numerous netflix shows" or "TV host in popular talkshow", etc. It's pricy as fuck though, and most of them don't serve foreigners
>>221766862didnt they have slaves for those?
>>221762874Hebrew and the rest of the world, yeah. I wonder if there's any logic behind it... Nah.
>>221767004Manipulative lying whore. She would have been a great Hollywood actress
>>221766824>I demand to be put ashore in Cappadocia right fucking now or I'll swear on me mum
>>221766824I wonder what those sweaty, horny, sex-starved pirates did to him on that ship for him to get so angry that he immediately raised a small fleet, hunted them down and had all of them crucified
It’s bizarre how much normies worship actors and think they are just like the characters they portray on screen
>>221762590>anything lacking sincerity is degenerate>now let's go stuff ourselves with excessive amounts of food while watching a bunch of slaves try to kill each other and afterwards we can retire to the baths for the gay orgy
>>221762723It wasn't "farming izzat" you social media using fucking retard, it was so you'd have a small army of people who were socially obligated to help you out with shit.
>>221768253Erm, thanks for the knowledge on the Roman Empire kind stranger! I will use it to get copious amounts of pussy as I’m sure you have!
>>221768227I'm going to eat a whole large pizza by myself and watch retard collision videos. I'm just like the romans
>>221765044>>221765319kek
>>221762543>They were not Good Solonius
>>221768782Absolute retardmaxxing in that webm.For myself, f1, just like the ancients.
>>221765319topkek
>>221762590Didnt expect to be able to like romans even more than I already did, but...
>>221763388Not autism anon, pragmatism
>>221767004Egyptian sex secrets
looking at modern celebrity worship between actors and musicians, I'd say Roman society had the right idea
>>221766905
>>221771527Writing a chapter about how much you have third style wall painting and how degenerate it is in the book you plan to dedicate to the man who invented third style wall painting in the hopes that he will give you a job is super autistic behavior.Did Vitruvius think that Augustus was going to give him a job after he called his house degenerate and him a tasteless idiot?
>>221762584>t. actor
>>221765319lel
The Roman hatred of the arts was just an atavism from their ancestors, the Sherden, who despised all forms of human expression and joined with the other Sea Peoples to destroy all known civilization.
>>221762543He already said prostitutes, including actors is unnecessary
>>221771899Artists and statecraft are pricks
>>221762935Japan is for the Japanese (for now)
>>221768782This really is the best sport ever
>>221766915I thought this was the guy with the inordinately large ass that stole Hulk Hogan's belt.
>>221774023sea peoplespvp with hats onTF2 ahead of their time.
>>221774339They all have different types of hats to signify which group they're part of, the italic Sherden wore the horned helmets, the greek Peleset the plumes, etc.
>>221762874Buddhists did it too
>>221765319
>>221768782
Atia rules
>>221767004Vagina
>>221767165>Hebrew>Logicpick one
>>221775030I like evil women but Atia repulsed me. Her torture of Servila was vile.
>>221775096She was hot.
>>221762543They used their bodies incorrectly. Romans valued masculine strength and duty. Pretending to be someone else, showing intense emotions, and displaying the body on stage were considered weak and dishonest. It was also a slave's profession.
>>221762590Why do 4channers always completely talk out of their assholes with pure confidence when it comes to historical topics?Romans definitely had a conception of "unclean" professions. Someone dealing with refuse, piss, shit, corpses, etc. would be considered unclean and would have correspondingly lower social standing.What kind of retarded autist shit is that to assume that they're referring to criminals and murderers when they say "tradesmen"??
>>221775054Yeah, man, just let this nasty ass butcher walk around and touch all your shit in a pre-running water civilization.
>>221762543in ancient rome actors were thought of as an unserious profession and low classfrankly i agree with them, they should still be treated like this, they are just playing games and making millions
>>221762935lel I met his Japanese equivalent in Poland. Ugly as hell but ripped because he lifts like it will get him pussy, hair spiked upwards like it will make him taller, trash personality and always making weird Asian sounds, only cares about getting a Polish gf lmao.
>>221777777checked
>>221762590I thought it meant like working in sanitation or the shit house...maybe tanners too..
>>221777777
>>221763388reasonfagging, a trait both autistic and acquired culturally
>>221777777HOLY CHECKED
>>221762935sorry but this is how I envision your average yellow fever poster on this site
>>221774407Is that nigga on the left about to blast an RPGThat's rad
>>221762590exactly, based romans as always , well except that one time they listened to Jews and crucified that person
>>221775292why you're so pedantic
>>221766915Gay af
>>221767004>You'll never do a victory lap cruise on the Nile while impregnating 14 year old Cleopatra after conquering Egypt
>>221762590They put petty thieves in the same basket as disgusting actors? That's a bit excessive
>>221775292>Why do 4channersIt's not exclusive to 4chan. Everyone, including you, does it everywhere
>>221775292>Someone dealing with refuse, piss, shit, corpses would be considered uncleanAnd as we all famously know, murderers and criminals never deal with corpses
>>221778080I've met like ten 4channers in Tokyo from /trv/ over the years and most aren't even autistic, just slightly dorky. Some even come off as turbo normies. I'd say only 1 guy was as autistic as the guy in the video, but he wasn't ugly like the video guy so he could actually get away with it and had no issue banging nip women
>>221768094More like it's downright terrifying how litttle thought the average person puts into things and accepts them at face value.
>>221768782>Joke about how american "football" should be called felon-collide>Mfw they build a sport around that as well
>>221767315Hehe he was just their receptacle
>>221777777holy shit, giga-based jap.Praying my nigga gets some pristine Polish Bobr.
>>221768782it's like a water buffalo fight, lmao
>>221765319Why was cato the only one to dress like a buddhist monk?
>>221764894You lost, hellentroon.
>>221767315He wasnt a woman or a qt underage boy so nothing.>>221768782holy fucking based
>>221762543>"actors and whores are the exact same" - klaus kinski
>>221781607>"my daughter and girlfriend are one and the same" - klaus kinski
>>221762543As he said, they're in the same category as prostitutes: professionnal liars who make a show of their body for our own entertainment.The fact our modern democracies listen to actors' political views and even elect them in offices says everything about our decline.
>>221762543they actually loved actors, they were called gladiators
>>221762630Everything was cleaned by running water, all you had to do was replace the poopoo sponge every so often
>>221762543Actors were little better than prostitutes (also true today) but in Roman times actresses especially would often literally just often also be prozzies and/or do sex shows.
>>221781566that doesn't even make any sense.
>>221762590this was the social norm all the way up to the 2nd half of the 18th century btw before the hayday of Enlightement, actors and actresses were basically equated to street whores >That all popular, and common Stage-Plays, whether Comical, Tragical, Satirical, Mimical, or mixed of either . . . are such sinful, hurtful, and pernicious Recreations, as are altogether unseemly, and unlawful unto Christians: I shall first of all evidence, and prove it.—William Prynne, Histriomastix, The Players’ Scourge, or Actors’ Tragedy (1633)
>>221781866>but in Roman times actresses>just actressesNobody tell Timmy here.His Rome was wholesome and chad in his head, full of based white people of moral principle.
>>221782628>>actresses especially you are an illiterate nigger, seriously try actually reading the post before you make a sad attempt at trolling as a reply.
>>221765205Well, the ram touched the wall. No mercy!
>>221766235I'm not watching it until I determine how faithful the Latin pronunciation is.
>>221762590>unclean tradesmen just means things like merchants of death or theft/thieves/criminals.Wrong, it means people dealing in things that are smelly or dirty, for example tanners were considered unclean because the process they used to tan leather made them smell horrible.
>>221783189How would you know proper latin pronunciation, were you alive back then?
>>221783356are you trolling, or are you genuinely asking? I have to remember that this is /tv/, and not /lit/ or /his/, so I'm not sure and my desire to answer hinges on that.
>>221781566Lost so hard that Roman culture became a tasteless copy of hellenistic culture with less skilled execution.TRVE BLVE Romans (second generation Thracian freedman) be like: check out my fetching new sculpture, it even has a marble palm
Ancient "actors" were more like circus performers, running around in masks making fart jokes and what not. True theater didn't evolve until Whites conquered Europe from the brown Shitalian hordes
>>221783655You can't know the way people pronounced things over 2000 years ago, anon. Sorry.
>>221783738>check out my fetching new sculpture, it even has a marble palm
>>221783816lel
>>221783808
>>221765900>>221771762There are nude pics of her when she was modeling before she did tv shows.
>>221783842If you went back in time and spoke your "perfect latin" to these people, they would laugh at your funny accent at best and not understand you at all at worst. Cope n seethe, retard.
>>221783965
>>221762543I'd rather go to where the unclean tradesmen and prostitutes go.Parasites aren't good company.
Drama was woke culture from faggy Greeks.
>>221762543Twitter shows why you don't want actors hanging around.
>>221783738>>221781566no more brother wars
>>221762543Why did he say prostitutes twice?
>>22177777767
>>221783808>be modern linguist>want to know how Romans pronounced Latin 2,000 years ago>obviously no surviving MP3 of Cicero ranting in the Senate>sad.jpg>start with Roman spelling mistakes and graffiti>people write “septe” instead of “septem”>accidentally reveal which sounds they were dropping or confusing>ancient typos become linguistic evidence>read Roman grammar teachers>they literally complain about people pronouncing words incorrectly>describe where to place the tongue and how long vowels should last>ancient pronunciation police unexpectedly useful>look at poetry>Latin verse depends on long and short syllables>if a line scans correctly, you know which vowels and consonants mattered>rhymes, puns and wordplay provide more clues>compare Latin words written in Greek>Greeks spell Roman names using their own alphabet>Romans do the same with Greek words>basically ancient phonetic transcriptions>check loanwords>Latin “Caesar” enters Greek as “Kaisar” and Germanic languages as “Kaiser”>therefore classical C was probably always hard, like K>not “Seezer”>compare the Romance languages>Italian, Spanish, French, Romanian, etc. evolved from spoken Latin>work backward from shared sound changes>linguistic archaeology activated>combine spelling errors, poetry, grammarians, transliterations, loanwords and descendant languages>different clues independently point to the same sound system>cannot know every accent or every individual speaker>can reconstruct educated Classical Latin surprisingly well>pronounce “veni, vidi, vici” roughly as “weh-nee, wee-dee, wee-kee”>Julius Caesar stops sounding like a church choir>history restored
>>221784079If all videos of people speaking current-day English were lost to time, and people stopped speaking "proper" English entirely in 2500 because of a civilizational collapse, with only random mutt varieties mutating into new unintelligible forms, how well do you think dickheads in the year 4000 would speak "proper" modern English as you speak it? Do you think some faggot who paid an exhorbitant sum to learn it from a cunt in a bowtie would speak it perfectly, or would he sound somewhere between goofy and unintelligible?
>>221784407
>>221784401Saar!>>221784469Sorry you got BTFO lil bud.
>>221784744
>>221762543Actors were prostitutes in the Roman Empire. Justinian had to change the law so he could marry his prostitute-actress wife Theodora.
>>221784833Aurelius was a cuck too
>>221782501that's one of the reasons why (((they))) came up with the oscars
>>221768782>Fencing reflexConcerning.
>>221767315Caesar, taken like a woman?
>>221762543The Romans were right to think of actors as being lower than prostitutes. At least prostitutes offer us something useful. >>221762560I mean it's kind of their job.
>>221781607Wrong. Whores actually provide value
>>221781866That is genuinely still the case today. With certain A-listers being exceptions. They're not streetwalkers, but they get paid by the ultra-wealthy to show up at their parties and fuck their guests
>>221786037Says the whore
>>221777777By Juno's cunt those gets!
>>221777777 Fortune witnessed this once again!
>>221762590>>221762607>>221764765>>221786011Plato had something to say about this in terms of Theater and Music. The power they held in manipulating people's emotions was really potent. A negative one could effect society negatively. While a positive one could effect it positively. Actors, like it or not, have prominence in your lives. They're in your childhood memories. They're in your vernacular. They live rent free in your minds. THAT. IS. POWER.
>>221786011>I mean it's kind of their job.Imagine life before everything had become completely regulated and there are a million lawyers. You survive in your community based your reputation. Acting and prostitution are inherently dishonest professions. I believe this is why actors would wear masks in ancient stage plays, the mask makes it clear the actor is playing a role that doesn't necessarily make them dishonest in their regular life. I also think theater had a revival in the late middle ages because priests and monks acted out the biblical plays and clergy were considered beyond reproach at the time.
Just think back to your school days about what kind of people the drama kids were.Everyone knew they were never to be trusted with anything of importance, because being two-faced is why they became drama kids to begin with.
>>221762543It wasn't just the Romans. Pretty much all pre-modern cultures had the same opinion on actors.
>>221762590they were not wrong
Actors play pretend for a living.
>>221786978RIP, Pullo
>>221788045How come seeing roman characters and themes is so rare in anime?
>>221787719good point
Romans were chuddy plebs. The Greeks loved their actors.
>>221786993Much say like religion
>>221788250But the greeks were gay?
>>221788482propaganda.
>>221762543Thoughout most of history acting was considered a form of prostitution. Right up through the 1800's you could pay to fuck any of the actors you saw on stage. Not much has changed really, almost every actor and actress working today had to take a lot of dick to get their big break.
>>221788577>Right up through the 1800's you could pay to fuck any of the actors you saw on stagebut weren't they exclusively men?
>>221788601Always had women on stage acting in brothels. Acting was basically considered a way for prostitutes to advertise the goods before you buy.
>>221788577>Right up through the 1800's you could pay to fuck any of the actors you saw on stageIt's still like that in many coutnries, see >>221767052
>>221788682>advertise the goods before you buy.oh...like in Game of Thrones, okay
>>221762543bankers and journos should be added onto this list
>>221788965you know, anon, there's an easy way to phrase this
>>221762543Back in those days actors were trash people who were not paid well and they traveled with a band of performers. They were like how we see Carnies. They were sketchy people with booze and drug problems who ended up in performance because they were losers. Acting was often seen more like we see WWE.
>>221789208>They were sketchy people with booze and drug problems who ended up in performance because they were losers.
>>221788405I thought you fedora fats have been extinct since 2014.
>>221789208>Back in those days actors were trash people>They were sketchy people with booze and drug problemsThe vast majority of them still are
>>221789284lol no faggot
>>221789284They've unironically taken over /pol/
>>221789284The fedoras morphed into a few different sub-species now. Some became based boys and some became reactionaries.
>>221791020unironically. because of Gamergate.
>>221762543in many ancient and medieval societies, actors were viewed with suspicion because they portrayed fictional characters, were associated with pagan festivals, or were considered to have a low social status.
>>221767004chappelle roan?
>>221767004>CaesarShe was young and hot and he had a vested interest in hitching his wagon to hers - Rome and Egypt both having civil wars meant that the two sides might pick sides in each others' war. Now the optimates certainly weren't going to make a deal with lil Ptolemy after he served up Pompey's head to Caesar, so getting in with Cleopatra and putting her on the throne eliminated the possibility of her siding with them while also being a propaganda win for Caesar since he deposed the murderer of Pompey.>Mark Antonyhe was a horny retard and she flattered him
>>221793671>Ptolemy after he served up Pompey's head to Caesarwhat was his plan?
>>221768782Slapping each other stupid was one thing but now we're just straight up running head first into each other? This is considered a sport?
>>221789284Larping religion is more cringe than an actual fedora wearing atheist.
actors/performers are rootless fags who produce nothing and travel around farming people's emotions for money, ancient and feudal societies appropriately treated them as lower than prostitutes and just barely above corpse handlers and dung rakers
